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LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Crash Considerations

August 1, 2023
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The Tampa Bay Rays got Aaron Civale for their rotation. The Brewers traded for Mark Canha from the Mets while the Diamondbacks traded for reliever Paul Sewald from the Mariners. The Royals swapped Jose Cuas to the Cubs for Nelson Velazquez straight up. The Reds acquired Sam Moll from the Athletics for pitching prospect Joe Boyle. The Giants acquired AJ Pollock and Mark Mathias from the Mariners for cash considerations or a player to be named later. The Cubs got Jeimer Candelario.

The Astros claimed right-hander Jake Cousins off waivers from the Brewers and designated Blake Taylor for assignment.

Nathan Eovaldi is officially on the 15 day injured list.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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DowningDude
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1 month ago

Line up posts comparisons at Twitter

The Sam Blum lineup post got 18 comments- 10 were about the angle of the photo

Jeff Fletcher got 12 comments – none about angle as his was straight on

Erica Weston got 4 comments

Sarah Valenzuela got 3 comments.

Angels twitter – 27 comments

Last edited 1 month ago by DowningDude
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FungoAle
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1 month ago

Just arrived in Taipei for a transit flight to Beijing. Had to check in on the deadline, would have liked to have given Flaherty a taste of the big A for two months. Leone is not sexy at all but Jackson has failed to progress. Wash. Won’t be able to check in on scores for a while based on where I am headed so when I get back on the 19th, I hope we are 10 games over .500. Go Halos and beat the Braves!

Phil is still a bum…I’m out.

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Kiyotchan
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Have a safe and pleasant trip, sir. We will do our best to protect the fort as your loyal soldiers.

Last edited 1 month ago by Kiyotchan
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Angelz4ever
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1 month ago

Let’s take the series tonight!!

Go Halos!!

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ihearhowie3.0
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ihearhowie3.0
1 month ago

Bachman and Joyce are probably not coming back this month if they’re still not throwing. Jackson is probably never getting more than a few cups of coffee.

Getting a guy that has been someone useful over the past month makes sense since the Angels are burning the boats and bridges. This isn’t a trade to worry about.

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Kiyotchan
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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I agree with Joyce, who will probably be shut down completely because of his UCL/ulnar nerve issue. The last time I heard anything about Bachman was a few weeks ago that he was in Arizona facility waiting to start throwing again. Hopefully, either Sammy or Jeff Fletcher asks Nevin to update where he is.

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Well you know, 1 or more of Perry’s cast offs are going to hit the big time. TrAdition tells us so. But for everyone else there was a really interesting article in Baseball America today about the small percentage of prospects in mid season trades that actually have a consequential MLB career. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/teams-are-getting-better-at-picking-prospects-in-trade-deadline-deals/

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Kiyotchan
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Kiyotchan
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Thank you for the link. Yordan Alvarez, Jeimer Candelario, Marco Gonzalez from 2017 and Jonah Heim, Josh Naylor, Frankie Montas, Gleyber Torres from 2016 deadline. Pretty good list.

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Theres a lot of Angels on it. especially from the early 2010’s ( post Stand Pat Stoneman days)

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2GA2Join
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1 month ago

I keep hoping that deadline straggler comes through of “Angels acquire ERod” or “Cease” or something like that.

I’ll keep hitting refresh on my browser at MLBTR until I see it…

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Kiyotchan
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Kiyotchan
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Eduardo Rodriguez No Trade list had 10 teams. I have a feeling that the Angels are one of them. White Sox was rumored to have asked for Sho and Rendon for Cease.

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Oh stop it.

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Kiyotchan
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Kiyotchan
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

 😉 

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red floyd
1 month ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I’d counter with just Rendon.

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ihearhowie3.0
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ihearhowie3.0
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Cease has 2 years of control left. We literally do not have the assets to acquire someone like that.

Nor would Arte want someone beyond this year. They seem to be preparing for a total reset if Ohtani leaves.

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KPAngel
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1 month ago
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Rodriguez declined the Dodgers apparently because he didn’t want to go to the west coast.

He has family on the east coast and didn’t want to be that far away.

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  KPAngel

Thats the official story. We know reality.

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JackFrost
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ha ha. I laughed when I saw this story ; that he shot down the trade. I think he has heard via the grapevine the way the Dodgers org treats players, especially Latin players… Who knows, he might have heard directly from Urias …

Stay away !

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Pineapple12
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Pineapple12
1 month ago

The Blumster hates the trade, which can only mean Perry did well.

Dominic Leone since 6/27

10 IP
2 ER
6 hits
15 K
4 BB

95 mph FB.

I don’t have stats on inherited runners allowed since 6/27.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

There’s no need to cherry pick stats, you’re better than that

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Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Senator_John_Blutarsky

I’ll admit, this dude shouldn’t be put in any high leverage situation.

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

for the entire 2023 season the Dominator has only allowed 25% of IBS so not a full blow out.

Devo is at 30% and the Webmaster is at 50%for the season.

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

since 6/27 4/8 have scored.

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Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Thanks CB ! I didn’t feel like looking it up

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ryanfea
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ryanfea
1 month ago

Angels traded Jeremiah Jackson for a guy you could get on the waiver wire. A baffling trade

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
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What the fucj?????

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Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

JJ is a well-known prospect name amongst our fanbase. He isn’t rated highly by the majority of prospect outlets.

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ihearhowie3.0
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ihearhowie3.0
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yeah…this happens a lot of years. We as Angel fans feel this guy has a high profile because he’s a guy that once had hype in a bad farm.

Think Jahmai Jones

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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Isn’t he a Billy pick?

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ryanfea
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ryanfea
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

He was. 2nd round pick in 2018

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ihearhowie3.0
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ihearhowie3.0
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

Outside of Marsh those haven’t exactly panned out.

Adell
Adams
Jackson
Wilson
Paris

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ryanfea
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ryanfea
1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

It’s still pretty early on a lot of those guys. Paris has a .375 OBP in AA and Adams was called to the big leagues today

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Pineapple12
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Pineapple12
1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

I guess it’s a good thing that Perry kept the good ones then right ?

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Maybe we could’ve traded him to SF with Rendone for salary relief. 😛

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ryanfea
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ryanfea
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yeah but why even make this trade? Leone isn’t better than Jacob Webb or Chris Devinski

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

hes better than both combined-at least this year.

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ryanfea
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Would love to know what metrics you’re basing that on. The three are very comparable to each other

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Ok dokey. In their 11 appearances:

The Webmaster has a 6.55 ERA .848 OPS against 1.60 WHIP 1.25 K/BB
Devo has a 12.19 ERA 1.106 OPS and a 2.70 WHIP 1,45 K/BB

The Dominator has a 2.08 ERA .750 OPS Against 1.15 WHIP and a 3.0 K/BB

Comprendo?

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ryanfea
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ryanfea
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

What do you mean by their 11 appearances? Last 11 appearances? We’re only talking about short term?

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Their last 11 games they appeared in?

I would think their recent performances are kind of important going forward in a pennant race .

The point is Webb & Devenski started off hot and have sucked giant balls for awhile now. This guy has been consistently good all season and right now we desperately need help especially if our 6th starter can barely go 5 innings.

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Yeah – he’s missing the word last.

What have they done for their teams lately. We have a worn out bunch down there. Loup is our top (middle relief) dawg at the moment and that’s scary

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

World class nickname though – The Dominator!

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Stupid f@cking trade.

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jco
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1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

I’m pretty sure that Jackson needed to be added to 40 man this off-season anyway or be subject to rule 5 draft.

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2GA2Join
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1 month ago
Reply to  jco

I was wondering if that was behind this trade…

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2GA2Join
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2GA2Join
1 month ago

Golly, wasn’t Jackson one of our good prospects?

I suppose he wasn’t as highly rated lately.

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MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Really feels like an overpay.

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Good grief!!!!!

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Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Everyone knows the name Jeremiah Jackson, his actual prospect profile doesn’t match the name recognition.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

That’s not the point. The concern is we acquired dumpster-level return for the limited prospect capital we have.

This the best RP the Platypus could acquire for a playoff run?

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tanana40
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tanana40
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Jackson is a career .245 hitter in the minor leagues. It appears that the Angels gave up on him. Though, I agree that this could have been a waiver wire pick up.

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  tanana40

Thanks for this … I haven’t really been paying attention to him. But still.

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ihearhowie3.0
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1 month ago
Reply to  tanana40

He’s one of several of those raw, young athletic Eppler guys that were once Top 5/Top 10 prospects for the Angels that lost their shine as the years went on and no meaningful progression clicked in.

He hit .215 last year. Repeated AA and has hit .248 so far. Really long swing and strikes out a lot.

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PedroCerrano
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I saw him in the spring and questioned the hype then. Hasn’t done much at AA this year either. Happy to bet that his departure won’t be second guessed a few years from now.

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Oski_Bear
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1 month ago

Exactly 1 player (Ohtani) in our lineup who was opening day projected starter. Crazy.

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jco
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1 month ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

Good point, but I think it’s 2: Renfroe.

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Oski_Bear
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1 month ago
Reply to  jco

Good point…missed him

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Kiyotchan
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Kiyotchan
1 month ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

And Rengifo, according to BBRef.

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jco
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1 month ago
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I don’t think Rengifo was projected to be the opening day starter, but did start because of the injury to Walsh ( Drury played 1B that day).

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BannedInLA
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BannedInLA
1 month ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

C’mon, we have 22% of our opening days starters playing today !!!

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Kiyotchan
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Kiyotchan
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Correction. 33%, don’t forget Rengifo, please.

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2GA2Join
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1 month ago

The people at MLBTR are going to go home tonight and sleep 12 hours.

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
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Today is to MLBTR as April 15 is to accountants.

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tanana40
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tanana40
1 month ago

Okay, let’s get to the first pitch in 1 hour and 18 minutes.

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BannedInLA
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Onward & upward. I like your style.

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John Henry Weitzel
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1 month ago
Reply to  John Henry Weitzel

A trade!

Yay! Perry did something!

OK, now who is Leone?

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I was googling as you wrote this

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Twebur
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1 month ago
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We gave up the rest of the Panda pitching staff…..thats too much.

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KPAngel
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1 month ago
Reply to  John Henry Weitzel

Is he good? I have no idea.

I need to look him up…LOL

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Claret
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1 month ago
Reply to  KPAngel

He’s given up 7 homers in 30 and 2/3 innings. Not the sort of guy you want in high-leverage situations. Perhaps Perry thinks he’s had a run of bad luck.

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tanana40
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JakeTaylor
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1 month ago
Reply to  John Henry Weitzel

Oh shit! We did get another arm!

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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1 month ago
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4.40 ERA, 1.24 WHIP

Well, I guess he’s an arm….and another potential contestant for the IR list.

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
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Inherited runner list?

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Looking….

He was used primarily in low leverage situations

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JakeTaylor
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1 month ago
Reply to  Senator_John_Blutarsky

He’s about as effective as Loup is.

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Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
Reply to  John Henry Weitzel

why?

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Eric_in_Portland

Pineapple has a Perry-hotline. He asked and Perry listened.

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Twebur
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1 month ago
Reply to  Eric_in_Portland

Billy selling all his shit…before he moves

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

In Jeremiah Jackson it sounds like he’s re-acquiring his draft picks

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KPAngel
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1 month ago
Reply to  John Henry Weitzel

“ANALYSIS
Leone’s overall numbers don’t look great, but he’s pitched to a 1.80 ERA over his last 12 appearances dating back to late June. The 31-year-old right-hander figures to slide into a middle-relief role with the all-in Halos.“

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
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source?

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KPAngel
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

RotoWire, so…🤷‍♂️

FWIW, I guess

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BannedInLA
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1 month ago

Rodriguez c-blocking the Doyers is the highlight of the day.

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JakeTaylor
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1 month ago
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Yep! Was bummed we didn’t get another pitcher but this totally made my day!

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

We got Sierra Leone

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JakeTaylor
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1 month ago
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Just saw!

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2GA2Join
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1 month ago
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What about Tea?

We could have Madam Secretary on our team.

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BannedInLA
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1 month ago
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I guess young be slightly less bummed because we acquired a mid-tier reliever in the final seconds.

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2GA2Join
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1 month ago

So did we trade Ohtani, Giolito, Grichuk, Cron, Renfroe, Estevez, Moore, Moose, and others to the Dodgers for their entire farm system just before the deadline like I was hoping?

just kidding don’t ban me

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago

always a couple of a straggler trade announcements after the deadline.

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John Henry Weitzel
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John Henry Weitzel
1 month ago

DEADLINE

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Kiyotchan
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1 month ago
Reply to  John Henry Weitzel

Cease did not get moved. Dodgers were rumored to attempt to get Cease after they were declined from Eduardo Rodriguez.

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JakeTaylor
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JakeTaylor
1 month ago

1 min to go

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
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time.gov says it’s 9 seconds ago.

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1 month ago
Reply to  John Henry Weitzel

BEST MOVE EVER!-Jeff Passin’Gass

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KPAngel
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1 month ago
Reply to  John Henry Weitzel

Meh?

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  KPAngel

But with Judge coming back front runners for winning it all…
-EaStsPiNn

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Kiyotchan
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Kiyotchan
1 month ago
Reply to  KPAngel

That way, Cashman can say he was involved with a trade for his press conference.

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Pineapple12
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Pineapple12
1 month ago

PERRY, WE NEED ANOTHER RELIEVER

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2GA2Join
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1 month ago

Should we trade Sandy away as part of a package for an upgrade?
Or stay pat with our starters as they are?

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Kiyotchan
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1 month ago
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5 minutes to go.

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BannedInLA
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BannedInLA
1 month ago
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Whatever the case, we have 5 minutes to do so.

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