Bombs Away! Angels Sink Pirates 7-5

Shohei Ohrani hit a middle in the first. Luis Rengifo hit a home run from both sides of the plate. Squid even got in on the action.

Tyler Anderson started off rough but pitched into the 7th inning.

5-2 over the last two series with 3 coming up in Detroit.

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John Henry Weitzel
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8 months ago

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smithy610
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8 months ago

Could have been 3 straight series wins since coming out of the AS break, but whatever. 7-2 homestand would have been amazing, but 6-3 isn’t all too bad.

Jim Atkins
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8 months ago

I’m pretty sure there’s something in the beers at the stadium that makes us all completely freaking manic depressive. We lose? Sobbing in fetal position for hours. We win? Well, Halo fans are too well behaved to set cars on fire on State College Boulevard, but deep down you know you want to.

steelgolf
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8 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

What are they putting into the Diet Coke souvenir cups? That’s my stadium drink, with a hot dog of course.

Fansince1971
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8 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Agreed. This is one of the most BIPOLAR sites I have ever seen. It’s been more so this year – I suspect because of the emotional attachment to Shohei and the prayer that this team can compete and keep him. So every win touches that emotional hope button and every loss triggers doomsday.

I am firmly in the trade Shohei crowd – I think it would be the wrong move to invest $600m-plus and he might not even take it if Arte offered it. Who knows- Arte may have offered it already only to have Ohtani’s agent say they were going to test free agency.. Just too much risk not to take a healthy package of young talent.

So – these losses and wins are not so emotional for me personally.

Last edited 8 months ago by Fansince1971
WallyChuckChili
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8 months ago

We are wasting Luis Rengifo!
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max
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max
8 months ago

“They’re all wasted”
-Baba O.

Last edited 8 months ago by max
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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8 months ago

I’m okay with wasting Rengifo.

sadnewfan
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8 months ago

 😆 

red floyd
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8 months ago

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MikeSalmon
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9 months ago

We have a pitcher who is has the 4th most strikeouts in all of MLB. We also have the leader in triples, both leagues: fast AF! We also have the Home Run leader for all of baseball.

We could be saying sayonara to all three of these guys at some point in the next 7 days. Oy!

DowningDude
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9 months ago

Sure wish we had DFA’d that bum Rengifo already

Kiyotchan
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9 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

 😆 

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

You know I also have to admit even his defense has been sharper since the benching. hes giving us maximum effort, getting in front of the ball and making crisper ,more accurate throws . Wow who knew?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Welcome to the Grand Illusion

steelgolf
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8 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I still wouldn’t mind trading or DFAing him.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

So what you’re saying is we should sell high for once.

Rengifo is making $2.3 Million this year and will be an Arb 2 player next year so the salary is going to really start jetting up.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Selling high…on a career 82 OPS+ hitter with below average fielding metrics.

You had me at “selling”

Fansince1971
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9 months ago

It’s the greatest! (Every win) +
It’s the worst (every loss)!

= a .500 team

HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
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9 months ago

Well dammit. There’s a lot to be encouraged about. Particularly if this last few games of Gifo is a repeat of his hot second half of last season. The return of some dudes in the next few weeks has the potential lineup looking as good as we’ve seen in a hot minute and the rotation and pen could be good enough to support what could be a dynamic offense.

Neto – SS
Ohtani – DH
Trout – CF
Moniak – RF
Ward – LF
Drury – 2B
Mous – 1B
Thaiss/ Ohoppe – C
Rengifo / Rendone – 3B

– this assumes we Ship out Renfroe or he’s on the very short side of a platoon with Mous at 1B and Mick in RF

I haven’t had a drink in weeks but Cheers for *optimism. If we buy us a starter ( Giolito please) and another high leverage pen arm this club might have a fighting chance.

* Disclaimer: optimism contingent on winning the next few series

Last edited 9 months ago by HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
BannedInLA
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9 months ago

Giolito is the one I want too.

FungoAle
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9 months ago

Add Jack Flaherty and Dylan Cease.

Kiyotchan
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9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Giolito ($10.4MM x 1 yr, FA next season)
Flaherty ($5.4MM x 1 yr, FA next season)
Cease($5.7MM x 1 yr, two more yr of arbitration, FA 2026)

Any one of them is a great choice. Which one would Arte go for?

Claret
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Cease has two more years of team control, so I doubt he’ll be traded. But he’s the best of the three.

steelgolf
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8 months ago
Reply to  Claret

Show them the highlight real of Rengifo today and make the trade! They can have Rengifo and a triple A arm.

BannedInLA
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9 months ago

Winning games with key players on the mend and Shohei the Pitcher not pitching very well. This portends well for the future if we can continue to hang “in it” for the next few weeks.

Anderson gave us a
solid, workmanlike outing today and this is what he looks like
at his best. If nothing else, he’ll typically give you 6 innings – the question is always will he give up 2 runs or 5?

Naturally Rengifo carries the offense while snagging a late inning liner. He plays because he’s toolsy and flashes just enough to get management excited. Rengifo is not our biggest problem (injuries are) nor is he our worst player.

Matt Moore & Estevez are really good BP pieces. Soriano is also emerging. We talk often of injuries to key players, but don’t mention Bachman enough. We need him
back stat to push Webb down the totem pole.

Disappointing to read that Drury may need a rehab assignment, which leads me to believe that that injury is more severe than reported – of course.

Last edited 9 months ago by BannedInLA
Twebur
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9 months ago

Live to see another day, or two, or three.

Give them credit for hanging in there.

Apoligizes to Anderson for always assuming the worst from him.

Free us from Webb

Free Rengifo!

JackFrost
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9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Caught in the Webb !!!

BannedInLA
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9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZktNItwexo

I do prefer the “White Chola” Gwen of days past.

Twebur
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9 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

“The itsy bitsy spider Webb couldn’t get an out.


Down came the hits, and gave us so much doubt.


Out came the runs, and gave us all the pain,


and the itsy bitsy spider Webb blew up his ERA again”

Enough! Get ride of this guy.

Or maybe he will pull off a Squid and contribute after being mocked by all of us.

aces666high
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9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

No need to apologize. He was godawful up until recently.

As an angels fan, I’m patiently waiting for him to fall apart again. Why? Because that’s what I’m used to. The cycle of abuse.

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I’ll be honest. After the 1st, I thought Anderson would be done after three. I was really impressed by the way he picked himself up after that inning.

Fleckstein
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9 months ago

Fans here demand Squid and Rengifo be dropped from the lineup and they homer. Coincidence? If so, keep up the criticism!

Kiyotchan
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9 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

I am in the midst of second serving of crow meat. My eyes started to water as I am force feeding myself of the gamey protein. I didn’t know how tough it is to be an Angel fan. Even though I am a bandwagon one.

HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

🤣😂 hang in there bro.. drink lots of agua

HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
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9 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

Oh we will! That is as certain as death taxes and Squid striking out on a pitch out of the zone.

Angels22
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9 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

Get rid of squid. We didn’t need his solo shot. Keep Rengifo. We needed him.

DowningDude
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9 months ago
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AnAngelsFan
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8 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

I missed yesterday and assumed Neto just had a rest day. I turned on today late and saw he wasn’t playing and that’s when I looked up and discovered he had back tightness. I just finished b*tching about how the Angels can’t be competitive playing Rengifo, Velasquez and Escobar, when lo and behold, the Replacements strike.

steelgolf
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9 months ago

Webb tried his best to let The Pirates back in this game. Thankfully The Angels held them.

angelslogic
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9 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Last 7 games in which he has pitched:

ERA – 7.71 WHIP – 2.14

He has been on a steep slide

JackFrost
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9 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Why does stupid Phillip keep throwing him out there while leaving Soriano on the bench ?

Twebur
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9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

(If) we keep in striking distance, I think Perry will add multiple arms. And I think he will be aggressive. Just hope he’s smart about it and doesn’t give away what little we have on “Arte’s Farm for unwanted Minor Leaguers”. Replace Webb, Reyes and Davidson with arms that aren’t a crap shoot when they pitch.

FungoAle
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9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Easy call to move prospects to me but sadly, Angels have a shit farm. Would be great to get stout starter and another bullpen arm or two. Defense improvements would be nice.

Could we sucker the Dodgers to take Anderson back? They are zoning in on Cease of Flaherty. Would love either one.

Twebur
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9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

As much as we need another starter, help in the pen is #1 IMO. Two more quality arms in the pen. Overpaying for an expiring contract or 2, for a veteran arm, that can get outs would be my priority.

Going to be hard. There is a lot more buyers than sellers. Probably won’t come cheap.

FungoAle
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9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Agree with that. Everyone could use an arm and will be looking. Honestly, I don’t have confidence that Perry will swing a significant deal due to resources.

HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
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9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I feel like Renfroe could fetch a high leverage pen arm from the right team with surplus

FungoAle
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9 months ago

Good with trading Renfroe and slide Moniak over there with MNT comes back. Let’s do it.

jco
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jco
8 months ago

The problem is that teams that will part with a high leverage arm won’t want Renfroe. Both of those types of players are for teams that are playing to win this season. They could do both in that they trade Renfroe for a prospect and trade a prospect for a reliever. It’s unlikely to be the same transaction though.

HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
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8 months ago
Reply to  jco

Not so sure.. I could see the Yankees ( who have a really good Pen) Giants and Brewers ( also solid pens) but needed some pop be good fits for Renfroe .. just depends on the return back

Cowboy26
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8 months ago

We would still need a backup Right handed hitting outfielder.

Too bad Adell is still on the shelf.

Kiyotchan
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9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I saw Aroldis Chapman throwing 103MPH bazooka today against Dodgers. He had a shut down inning with 2Ks. I know, I know, it’s too late. Gotta move on.

With Padres loss today, Hader might be back on table. But, it would be expensive as you say, and Padres will most likely sweep their next series foes the Pirates. So, I am not really expecting Angels to acquire Hader.  😥 

Last edited 9 months ago by Kiyotchan
Twebur
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Going to hard to find a match for all looking to add. 
Looks like we have 8 teams on the outside looking to sell,
A’ss, Tigers, White Sox’s, Royals, Pitt, Rocks, Nats, Cards. 

Two on the fringe Mets, SD (you brought up) and maybe the Cubs. Lots of competition to find the gold.

matthiasstephan
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Hard to see Padres selling at the deadline – they are too heavily pot invested.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago

So the Friars are really blazers?

Claret
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9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I agree with you. But Perry’s failure to sign another reliever or two in the off season is the reason we have a bullpen problem. There was an abundant supply of free agent relievers, and so the prices were reasonable. But Perry decided to build a bullpen on the cheap. Or perhaps Perry wasn’t completely honest when he kept asserting that Arte wasn’t being stingy with the budget.

jco
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jco
8 months ago
Reply to  Claret

I mean, he signed two good relievers. It’s unusual to sign more than that. The problem is that so many have been really bad.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  jco

Relievers are definitely a crap shoot

So For this team 2 per decade is a coup

Last edited 8 months ago by Cowboy26
aces666high
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9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Bah! Look at you chasing wins!

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Before you get all curmudgeonly there Frostie you might want to look at Sorianos numbers lately. In his last 6 appearances he has a WHIP of 3.00 and ERA of 5.79 So the biggest difference is Soriano is allowing even more baserunners but slightly lesss hard contact ( Although a OPS against of 1.010 is pretty bad) .

Phillip should just stick with our new weapon as everyone fears the Poup

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Or, as I said to my buddy during the game, “There is no lead so large that the Angels’ BP will not try to blow it.”

SScott
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9 months ago

Back above Seattle. That’s one team down. Hope they can keep it going.

FungoAle
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9 months ago
Reply to  SScott

Seattle is tough, pitchers are stout. Mariners will not fade, pitching rules. Jedi will be out for a bat. His trade for Teoscar has busted.

Kiyotchan
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9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

You are right. With Colonic out with his World Cup Soccer style kick on Gatorade cooler for at least 6-8 weeks, they will hunt hard for outfield bat. Mets’ Mark Canha has been rumored to be desired by Mariners. He is not a huge homerun threat, but he for some reason seems to hit well against the Angels. He is well known for almost picking up a fight with Sho.
https://youtu.be/XLbY-00rFLU

Eric_in_Portland
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

c’mon, Sho!

FungoAle
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Canha. Like you said, is not big threat but with that pitching staff, they will be in most games. They just need to have guys who can get key hits and play good D. Reminds me of the 2010 WS SF Giants with little offense but opponents walked death march facing their starters.

Last edited 9 months ago by FungoAle
Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Well he would fit right in with all those other smug ass punchable face mermen up in Seattle.

Sportsdominator23
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9 months ago

6-3 Homestand to keep them in the Playoff hunt, I’ll take it. Off day on Monday, then back at it again vs Detroit on Tuesday. Hopefully, get Neto back on Tuesday and Drury back soon (Might need some rehab games before rejoining the Angels). Go Halos.

Eric_in_Portland
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9 months ago

now we can focus on beating Detroit. Good job today, lads.

Kiyotchan
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9 months ago

That was an important win. Hopefully Webb and Thaiss get that brain freeze play out of their mind, relax tomorrow, and start afresh on Tuesday in Motown.

Eric_in_Portland
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Seattle threatening in the 9th vs Toronto. The good news is that one of them will lose.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

I am watching it. I still would like Blue Jays to lose, so Angels would be 3GB WC3.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
9 months ago

Seattle choked.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Especially Julio. Angels are back in 3rd place in AL West.

JackFrost
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9 months ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

At least we are back ahead of Seattle now — I hate being in 4th place in the division !

Also, Toronto has a 3 game series coming up at Dodgers starting tomorrow. We’ll see how things play out, but we should at least have a chance over the next few days to cut that WC lead they have on us …

Of course we’ll need to take care of business against a gritty Tigers team. Won’t be easy…

Last edited 9 months ago by JackFrost
red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I also blame that brain fart play on Rengifo, who should have been backing it up, instead of standing around scratching his ass.

Kiyotchan
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8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

That’s a good point. When I was playing 2nd baseman in high school, I was coached to back up the pitcher every time he was receiving baseball from the catcher.

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Yep, when I coached my daughter’s softball team, even though I hardly knew anything I knew that.

halofansince1978
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9 months ago

LTBU!!!

WallyChuckChili
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9 months ago

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