LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Suarez Gone

Jose Suarez and Cole Tucker are designated for assignment. Zach Plesac and Brandon Drury are in.

Here is how the All Star voting is going so far.

Veteran reliever Diego Castillo is now a free agent after being designated for assignment by the Twins. The Mets released Thomas Nido.

The Braves have their share of pitching woes. They just placed Hurston Waldrep on the injured list for elbow inflammation. They also have outfielder Michael Harris II on the IL with hamstring problems. Anthony Rizzo has an arm fracture. Yimi Garcia is on the 15 day IL with right elbow ulnar neuritis. Mookie Betts will likely miss six to eight weeks with his broken hand.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
25 days ago

Suarez was picked up on waivers by Chipotle.

JackFrost
Super Member
25 days ago

# 24 ;

24 All Star Game appearances

Passes in 2024.

Willie Mays, RIP.

Last edited 25 days ago by JackFrost
MikeSalmon
Super Member
25 days ago

I was slightly too young to have seen Mays in his prime. I saw him at the end of his career with the Mets, which just felt wrong. Say Hey Kid was a Giant…in every sense of the word.

Arguably the greatest all-around player ever.

jcstein
Trusted Member
25 days ago

I can’t believe the angels had such a short leash with Suarez

WallyChuckChili
Legend
25 days ago

RIP Willie Mays

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Last edited 25 days ago by WallyChuckChili
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago

93 years old. I miss him already.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
25 days ago

The Say Hey Kid. What a player, and what a gentleman.

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago

Say Hey Kid.

Walked past him at the Anaheim Hilton after game 6 World Series with a few Giant executives. Not usually to star struck, I was that time.

Last edited 25 days ago by Twebur
Marcotor
Trusted Member
25 days ago

Like NASA launches in the 60’s, it’s hard even with the miles of film around, to give others a sense of what a thrill it was watching him play. Basket catches! The too small cap flying off as he rounded 2nd, showing off that incredible speed. Big, looping home runs. He was, is, and always will be: The Greatest of All Time.

MarineLayer
Super Member
25 days ago

Trout now says his injury is taking a longer time to heal than expected. See you next year, Trout.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  MarineLayer

After undergoing surgery last month to repair a torn meniscus in his left knee, Los Angeles Angels outfielder Mike Trout is learning to be patient with his recovery.

“It’s getting there, obviously slower than I thought, but it’s my first time with a knee injury,” Trout told reporters on Tuesday. “Just gotta trust the process and take it day by day.”

While Trout’s recovery is taking longer than he expected, he added an update that surely won’t make Angels fans happy. The three-time AL MVP said he still doesn’t have a timeline for his return and hasn’t even started running yet.

Born_in_59
Member
25 days ago

I had meniscus surgery in September and didn’t complete therapy until February and my case didn’t have serious complications. This could take some time.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

My wife, who is about your age, had the same surgery 10 years ago and recovered much faster than Trout. He’s 32, you’d think he was 60. There is no reason for him to hurry back, but I’m almost starting to look at him like Rendon. He can’t stay on the field.

Last edited 25 days ago by Roy Hobbs
BannedInLA
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Worse yet, I’d wager now that Rendon returns before Trout.

BannedInLA
Super Member
25 days ago

“What is something we all knew was going to happen” for $1,000 Alex.

Sigh.

Aside from watching the kids (hopefully) progress, the only other thing I wanted to see was a healthy MNT. Injuries suck.

BannedInLA
Super Member
25 days ago

Schanuel- .228
Ward – .234
Drury – .168
Moniak- .188
Adell – .191

Good times.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
25 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

That is horrifying lol

I’ll give Drury a pass for now because its a small sample size and he was clearly playing hurt.

Last edited 25 days ago by TrojanBoiler
BannedInLA
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Sure but, it’s ugly to watch. There are only about 10 dudes hitting .300+ in MLB and by September, it’ll be 5. Maybe.

I hate it.

Obviously “velo”
must be part of the reason, but are there others?

Last edited 25 days ago by BannedInLA
Eric_in_Portland
Legend
25 days ago

Calhoun back in his batting spot of power

Cowboy26
Legend
25 days ago

Free the Plumber.
Free the Pillar of Power
Free the Platypus from Arte’s evil ( and cheap) ways.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
25 days ago

Stupid joke of the day. On the first day of Spring Training:

Ron Washington: “Where’s Shohei?”

Angel employee: “He’s with the Dodgers now.”

Ran Washington” Now, %$% &^*% it! Nobody told me….”

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
25 days ago

this led to that which led to the other which led me to Chuck Klein and boy does his career look like Trout’s! Lots of black ink and then once past 28 years old his games slowed down.

29 yrs old – 115 games
30 yrs old – 119
31 yrs old – 146
32 yrs old – 115
33 yrs old – 129
34 yrs old – 110

I know that’s even more than Trout. But he looked like an all-time great through age 28, then became a good player until 32 with fewer games.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kleinch01.shtml

Angelz4ever
Super Member
25 days ago

So, you’re saying instead of Chuck Klein, Trout is in D. Klein?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
25 days ago

Why would any fan of the Angels hope for a shot at a .500 season with nothing to add to it next year? The cupboard is bare, time to think of the future, not the same old stuff, 10 seasons of the same crap is proof that it’s time to change the established pattern to something hopeful and positive. I’ll scream my lungs out if PTP plays the money signing game on draft day, I’ll scream even louder from the top of the mountain if the Angels hold on to what they got. (3 exceptions maybe for O’Hoppe, Neto, Soriano)

Find some defensive catching and teach O’Hoppe 3rd base, Torre made the HoF doing it, the kid has the stick. Schanuel is as I read and agree with, a Casey Kotchman. The Dodgers have talent to spare, trade Rengifo to them to play SS and Anderson for young arms and some control, Anderson signed on here for 2 seasons. Atlanta needs OF help, trade Ward to them. Sandoval and Detmers and Canning can bring some good prospects too.

RexFregosi
Super Member
25 days ago

I might die before 2025 – that’s why.

after a certain age, there is no more ‘next year’ so stuff like Schanuel for Alfonso makes sense.

Wild Card 2024 – lfg!

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I might go too, but I really love this team, so I’ll take a chance waiting for 2-3 or 4 years for it to become more than Wildcard hopefuls. Heaven has satellite TV and with a name like the Angels, you know it will be on. 😇 

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I’m never going to die because you can’t hurt steel.

Still, isn’t it more fun watching these kids than last year and the year before? This is why I like the Reds/Pirates/Tigers/Rays. BUT the Angels are even better for a fan like me because we aren’t developing guys so we can send them to richer teams in six years. From a “spiritual” sense I think O’Hoppe, Neto, Adell etc etc are a great core and we should keep adding to them accordingly. Even ShamWow, at 1B or in the OF. It’s a good start, let’s keep going even if it means .500 is a couple years away.

halofansince1978
Super Member
25 days ago

Father Time and Mother Nature are undefeated. Nobody gets out of this alive and I’ve got a Plasma Cutter that says you can hurt steel.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

As you suggested, Alonso would be more valuable to the Angels than Schanuel for the next year or two. He would also cost a little more as well.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
25 days ago

Ok Gramps, your plan is to trade the entire starting staff plus Rengifo and Ward for “hot prospects” plus move O’Hoppe to 3B and replace him at catcher with who knows???! Part of O’Hoppe’s value is he’s a catcher of course. He becomes a lot more mediocre once he moves.

Overall, your plan is to be good maybe in 2030 if you’re lucky. It will take multiple years to get prospects to the majors for starting pitchers and then years for them to become good, barring something incredible happening. I don’t see the plan happening nor being a good one.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
25 days ago

I watch sports to be entertained. If the teams experience any success, then that is super. If they make the playoffs, well, that’s just gravy.

I have zero expectations for this team and even less that Perry will make a significant trade with the few tradeable assets on the team.

If you want Perry to gamble with Anderson, Rengifo and Drury, then fine. Kiss them goodbye, but don’t be sad when the magic beans he gets for them turn out to be only lima beans.

For all that is holy, do not trade Ward. There has to be one decent veteran left on this team to provide any hope for a victory.

I’ll be honest, the season is already going to go much better for me now that Suarez is gone.

This team will be bad as long as Arte owns it. Once he sells, then I can get excited about drafting and trades that could possibly bring in young talent.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago

We might get magic beans?

WallyChuckChili
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Or just Frank’s and Beans

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
25 days ago

Yo Perry, pick up your phone and speed call all 29 teams and start the cavalcade of future stars, time for a massive rebuild.

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago

Hello Perry, this Mr. Moreno. Give me a call please. I keep hearing trade, trade, trade, and the words rebuild and rebuilding. We don’t do that. Give the guy who handles the injury press releases a call, he doesn’t say anything, that’s what we do here, or don’t do. Less is more Perry.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Sadly, I can hear that call. On the other side of the coin is we lower payroll and Arte wants every last dollar he can take from this team.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
25 days ago

With Drury back, do we entertain sending Schanuel down to AAA and letting Drury man first base?

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
25 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Schanuel isn’t getting sent down.

Cowboy26
Legend
25 days ago

The next position player move will be the activation of Sano with the plumber being sent down.

Baring a trade a trade or injury I would then anticipate seeing the activation of Rendone and the DFAing of Guillorme.

At this point it would take lot of failure for Schanny to be sent to the Great Salt Lake.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

An OPS of .655 at the first base position is a pretty significant amount of failure IMO

Send him down and let him re-work his swing.

smithy610
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

But from a playing time perspective though:

Rendon – 3B
Drury – 2B
Nolan – 1B
Rengifo – ??????

Where does that leave Rengifo, arguably the best offensive player of the team right now?

That’s why I see Nolan getting sent down, if only for a short while, to be able to “showcase” both Rengifo and Drury to potential trade partners by being able to play them everyday.

Then after the trade deadline, Nolan will be called back up again.

Last edited 25 days ago by smithy610
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

One of them may DH?

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Add a Sano…..and it might be the end times for Free Willie if you ask me. His hot bat has chilled.

Last edited 25 days ago by Twebur
smithy610
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

If I would DH someone more, leading to the trade deadline, it would be Ward. I’d let Moniak-Pillar-Adell man the outfield everyday.

Ward is one sliding catch or collision to the OF wall away from the IL. We ding on Trout for being injury-prone?! Ward isn’t any better (though last year was a horrible freaky accident).

Angelstan
Trusted Member
25 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Smithy, I assume you know your Moniak, Adell, Pillar outfield becomes the worst offensive outfield in baseball plus maybe the worst in the league in the last several years offensively. Don’t plan to see it. BTW expect Pillar to be moved to the Braves or the like.

smithy610
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Smithy, I assume you know your Moniak, Adell, Pillar outfield becomes the worst offensive outfield in baseball plus maybe the worst in the league in the last several years offensively.

And the OF we have right now is bursting with offensive production?! This team is going nowhere. Whether Ward is in the OF or he’s traded, that won’t be the difference in the Angels making the playoffs or not this year. So might as well play Moniak and Adell everyday, and hope they catch some lightning in a bottle.

When Trout comes back, I expect Pillar to be the 4th OF, or to rotate with Mickey. If Pillar is shipped out, I expect Jordyn Adams to take a spot on the bench.

Cowboy26
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs
halofansince1978
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

The Great Salt Lake…updated 24/7/365

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TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
25 days ago

I agree, I don’t think it would actually happen

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Good Gawd – The Plumber should be sent down before Schanuel

Last edited 25 days ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Yes.

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago

Washington said he was warned not to take the job, that at the age of 72, it was a losing proposition.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/16/sports/ron-washington-defiant-as-angels-spiral-aint-no-dam-n-failure/

RexFregosi
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

“But you know what? It’s coming. I know it’s coming. We’ll get it done here, and it’s going to be a beautiful damn thing when we’re on top.’’

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I’ll take not being on the bottom! Moving on up!

Free from the Bottom!

Free Washington!

https://youtu.be/FHDwRECFL8M?si=ILf0lUu-CFY-Qt96

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

He doesn’t make any sense. On the one hand, he finally admits that it’s a rebuild and is going to take longer than people expect, which I agree with. Not sure if longer means years or not. But at the same time, he says the team is not performing as he expected, like he’s surprised. No one here is surprised. Pretty much everything that has happened this year is almost completely predictable. It’s not even disappointing, it’s just a work in progress. We all know that the biggest problem we have is that our players are not as good as most other teams. It’s a talent issue. That’s not to say that there are not a bunch of other issues but more talented players can help cover up those other problems. It’s not going to be happen by next year. They can improve though.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  RexFregosi

I like Washington.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago

I actually do as well. I am not looking for a new manager.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

Everyone makes bad decisions from time to time. Some people make them frequently. If you accept a job from Arte Moreno, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Cowboy26
Legend
25 days ago

Like continually following this inept team?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Cowboy26

Guilty as charged. I plead insanity.

Cowboy26
Legend
25 days ago

Ha! This maybe the only place where all the guilty parties actually admit it.

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago

Prospects with the best power-speed combo — one for each team

https://www.mlb.com/news/best-power-speed-combination-for-each-organization-2024

Another reason we need to get a Bat with our #1 pick.

Angels: Joswa Lugo, SS, (No. 7)
We’re going deep dive into pure upside and ceiling here given that Lugo, who signed for $2.3 million just this past January, has a grand total of six Dominican Summer League games under his belt as of this writing. He’s off to a very good start (8-for-22 with five doubles and a home run to go along with two stolen bases), but we’re more looking at the potential for him to have at least above-average power and decent speed, though there is some concern he’ll slow down a tick as he matures.

RexFregosi
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

as long as we get a consensus Top 8-10 player, i’ll be happy – some one nice will slip to us.

my fear is the front office gets ‘creative’ and we pick some marginal first rounder. I can see it going either way right now. ugh.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I agree with Turk’s this is not the draft to try to get cute. There are some elite college bats that should be available. Don’t over think it and get a masher.

If by chance the top 7 on the board largely agree and one of the 2 stud college arms is there, thank the Lord and take one.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Buy the Toyota truck. It’s there. It’s good. Buy the Toyota truck.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

This is impossible. Lugo is AI generated. We don’t have scouts and we don’t do anything internationally. Real Baseball Men have said so.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
25 days ago

Breaking news:

Soriano missed his start yesterday because of Miguel Sano putting a heating pad on his abdomen…..

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago

SORIANO update? Anyone? Are we going to find out he has blisters on his feet?
Why the lack of information with this team?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Inquiring minds want to know!

RexFregosi
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

unlike heartless CtPG bastards, the news of Suarez’ release crushed him emotionally.

he will be back once he realizes Suarez will be in SLC just temporarily, and return for the September playoff push.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Oh goody, I was worried, can’t wait for “See you in September” 🎧 

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
25 days ago

Enjoy the wins, after the trade deadline we will be one of the worst clubs. Angels could become one of those teams praying the prospects acquired and draft picks turn out to be MLB players, for years. Hello Rockies,Reds and A’s. At least that means cheap tickets. Arte is hurting but StubHub making bank. Those cheap Angels tickets have an average of 55% service charge. For Wed game my $13 tix had a $7 fee. Rip off

FungoAle
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Queue up The Lodge jingle, “714-Tickets, 714-Tickets…”

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Depends on Arte. The A’s and like have sucked forever because they don’t lock up their young talent with extension so they constantly had to fill tons of holes.

The Braves and Brewers have been good for quite a while because they lock up and extend their young talent. And Houston obviously shelled out to keep its core together. If the right guys are kept, the team could be good again and for a while.

The Rockies are a good Arte comp because they never stick to a plan. They rebuild and then sign Bryant for huge money. Just utter stupidity.

Last edited 25 days ago by Jeff Joiner
RexFregosi
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

not hard to imagine Arte seeing us trade Schanuel for Alfonso.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

You mean Pete Alonso right, not 50 year old Edgar Alfonzo. But you might.

RexFregosi
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

lol – yeah the 🐻‍❄️ polar bear

Angelz4ever
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

If after the trade deadline we moved a few players that makes us better in the long run. I don’t give a rats patootie what our record is (Kinda do actually) for the rest of 2024. The problem is if Reneeeeeefo, Ward, *Drury, *Sandoval, *Adell, *Pillar and Anderson are moved, we’re gonna have some ugly line-ups.

Some guys are gonna come up and be overwhelmed and possibly ruined (i.e. J. Adams). The flipside is that Moniak and Adell will have the rest of the season to audition for an MLB roster next year.

*It can happen with the right team

Last edited 25 days ago by Angelz4ever
GrandpaBaseball
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

It’s time for some youngblood, head ’em up and move ’em out.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
25 days ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Maybe. But if you replace June Ward with Trout and Rengifo with Drury I am not sure we have downgraded much.

Losing Anderson will hurt though.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

June Ward….the Cleavers

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

June Ward or April Ward….. He usually hits more in April.

Maybe we should call Ward “Leave it to Beaver” or the Beav.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
25 days ago

So I’m guessing Trout won’t be at the ASG for the first time in how long? Ideas on Halo representative. O’Hoppe is my pick.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Same. O’Hoppe is a stud and the catching position isn’t exactly loaded at the moment.

Salvador Perez will deservingly get the starting nod but they’ll need more and O’Hoppe is the obvious pick.

Rengifo should get some ASG love but his lack of a true position will keep him off the squad.

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If Rengifo has a couple more weeks playing like he’s been, he might make it. Doubt we get 2 spots.

smithy610
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

This is the time I wish we have trolly fans. Imagine if the Angels led most of the fan voting after that guy left. It will blow Manfraud’s mind into pieces.

smithy610
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

After Perez, Rutschman will be the next man up. But O’Hoppe should be in the Top 3.

The issue is there are more “popular” picks than O’Hoppe. Not just among the fans, but among the players as well.

One way I can see O’Hoppe getting in is if he has an offensive explosion the rest of June that it will be hard to ignore, then players will most likely vote him in.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

I overlooked Rutschman. That’s the 1-2 right there.

I still think O’Hoppe makes it. The Angels need a representative after all and being third on the depth chart is the highest we can hope for at this point.

smithy610
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I would love for O’Hoppe to make it, but unless he falls off the face of the earth in 15 days, it will most likely be Tyler Anderson that will be our lone representative.

Twebur
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Marsh vs O’Hoppe inside the numbers….O’Hoppe bottom line, with 30+ more ABs.

AB 171 / R 23 / H 45 / HR 6 / RBI 26 / SB 8 / AVG .263 / OB .345 / OPS .766

AB 214 / R 32 / H 60/ HR 9 / RBI 31 / SB 1 / AVG .280 / OB .330 / OPS .797

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

It’s still even, Marsh can field and throw.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

It’s a toss up between him and Ryan Jeffers of Minn. They are pretty much tied for 3rd.

RexFregosi
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

one publication listed Giffy as our ‘unsung hero’ – stupid choice, as anyone who follows the club knows he’s our key offensive force.

Anderson seems most likely but O’Hoppe would be a great choice as well as Giffy.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Jim Atkins

A team this bad really shouldn’t have All-Star representation. Selecting someone just because every team must have one representative ultimately diminishes those players who truly have distinguished themselves through truly high performance.

O’Hoppe is a nice player having a good season. He is not one of the top 35 performing players in MLB.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
25 days ago

true but now they have like 40 players on the all-star roster.

RexFregosi
Super Member
25 days ago

He’s the 3rd best catcher in the AL so he is on the cusp of being a deserving All Star

MarineLayer
Super Member
25 days ago

Over the years the Angels have routinely been underrepresented for a variety of reasons so I’m happy to have a token player on hand.

max
Trusted Member
max
25 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Here’s how no Angel player gets on the AS squad. Trout gets voted in and declines b/c he’s still on the IL, No other Angel player selected, Trout is our rep,

Angelz4ever
Super Member
25 days ago

I don’t know why, but I thought Plesac was a lefty.

A very good game for someone who didn’t think he’d be pitching.

Cowboy26
Legend
25 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever
Last edited 25 days ago by Cowboy26
Angelz4ever
Super Member
25 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Probably.

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