LA Angels Monday News Crash: Youth Participation

MLB fandom is gradually getting younger as both rule changes and engaging the yutes are both having an effect. The Orioles, though, went another way. They optioned their youth Jackson Holliday down to Triple-A.

Anthony Rendon has a small tear in his hamstring and will be out of action for quite a while. The Angels selected Zac Kristofak and placed Jose Cisnero on the 15 IL with right shoulder inflammation. They also designated Jimmy Herget for assignment.

The Phillies designated Ricardo Pinto for assignment. He’s bad at pitching. The White Sox selected Brad Keller and designated Deivi Garcia for assignment. The Red Sox designated Joely Rodriguez for assignment.

Wade Miley is the latest pitcher to have Tommy John surgery. Avisail Garcia went on the ten day IL with a left hamstring strain.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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FungoAle
Super Member
18 days ago

Angels need to shore up the pen. Start scanning rosters and make a move. Rosenberg could come up and be a swing man, long relief. Suarez needs a complement or flat out replacement. I think the offense, while struggling has potential.

BannedInLA
Super Member
18 days ago

Someone has probably already posted the lineup, but man, this is interesting. Desperate & interesting.

Adell in the 2 hole. Angels front ending our true power hitters. I like the element of Speed & Power at 1-2.

WTF is a Cole Tucker?

Someone put out missing persons report on Drury. Geez.

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tanana40
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Huge hitting problems at DH and 3B. Drury was a big league hitter the past couple of years at least. I guess that they don’t want Moniak to bat at all against lefties. Schaneul should be in there even against lefties. Dumping Hicks was a good move but the organizational depth is appalling.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

You don’t want to know about Cole Tucker.

BannedInLA
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

…..

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Mia
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Mia
18 days ago

I really thought they’d ride Hicks a bit longer. Jo Adell the RF job is yours to lose…

Angelz4ever
Super Member
18 days ago

I will make a bold prediction: The Halos will not lose every day this week.

Brent
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

FUNNY GUY

smithy610
Super Member
18 days ago

I’d rather have Moniak on the field – I think his defense is better than Adell’s – and have Adell get most of the DH at-bats, save for the Trout/Ward DH days. I’m not ready to give up on Moniak yet. From what I saw last year, he seems to be a rhythm hitter, and he hasn’t had the chance to play a lot of consecutive games yet to get that rhythm. I’d rather the team see what they have in Moniak as an everyday player, rather than trying to rotate through fringe bargain bins once again, for whom there’s no incentive to see through (i.e. Hicks).

But I do appreciate them rolling out Adell in the field – it’s the only way he’ll improve his defense and fielding. We’ll suffer through the occasional blunders, but this is part of the “play the kids” mantra that a lot of people want anyway.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

The Angels aren’t making the playoffs this season, so as long as Adell is hitting well enough to stay on the team, they might as well play Adell in the field to let him improve.

BannedInLA
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Agree. The fact that Hicks is absorbing at bats that should be going to Adell AND Moniak is unfortunate. And stupid, particularly since Hicks isn’t hitting well anyway

max
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max
18 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

well, He Gone!
lol

Angels2020Champs
Legend
18 days ago

Anyone want to copy and pasta the Kristofak Athletic article btw? Someone I wouldn’t have mined rooting for and hoping he gets another chance (he should!!) with us.

DowningDude
Legend
18 days ago

I would like some baked mostaccioli

Angelz4ever
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Steve Martin character, “I’ll take half a decaf with half-n-half.”

DowningDude
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

🤣

DowningDude
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

“I’ll have a lemon twist!”

Angelstan
Trusted Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

This is at least some progress. Daniel might be decent. I know nothing about Cole Tucker though.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

He’s our DH tonight. Played 5 games for Colorado last year, a career .216 hitter

Cowboy26
Legend
18 days ago

Also a career OBP of .266 and career Slugging percentage of .318. Thats a Schanuel slugger right there.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’d rather watch Jordyn Adams. Why didn’t we just keep Trey Cabbage.

Cowboy26
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

because he was a human circulating fan. I think Trey had to hit rock bottom and get away from this organization before he decided to abandon the big swing exaggerated step for the toe tap.

DowningDude
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Cabbage almost killed one of our pitchers

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

True

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Yes, I’d rather see someone who came up through our system than another Perry journeyman pickup

FungoAle
Super Member
18 days ago

If they are hitting below the mendoza line or close to it, do you bring them up or go the journeyman?

FungoAle
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Was a huge Adams fan, no longer. Has struggled to make the transition to baseball and make consistent plays. That’s ok, own it Angels.

Cowboy26
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

You mean Tucker with a career OPS of .584 in 475 MLB PA’s?

How is this any better than Ehire?

smithy610
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Are we at least going to get a Vanessa Hudgens sighting?!

Cowboy26
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Sure. I guess thats an upgrade over Tiger Woods Niece.

DowningDude
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Oh snap. Reminds me of when Georgia Frontiere had her minions in STL draft Denzel Washington’s son just so she could meet up with Denzel.

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Would have been happier if it was Suarez but Hicks will do.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

You’re a weird dude. You jump on a train (any) while simultaneously shitting all over someone else’s (Rendon, Hicks). The repetitive daily nature of it is exhausting.

This game sees far more failure than success. Once or twice, I’ll give you a thumbs up/comment… but same on the other end, just w/o the thumb up. Take a break or get a different take. Also not sure why you’re yelling. We know your opinion. Appreciate the link tho 😘

*Employing the it’s ok to have an opinion of an opinion in the CtPG bylaws*

Please feel free to have one on mine.

Pineapple12
Super Member
18 days ago

All good brotha.

Not sure if you’ve noticed, but I havent been trying to fight with you on the internet recently. I take responsibility in escalating our online kerfuffle. I certainly apologize.

If you think I’m a weird dude, all good. I think I’m a weird dude too!

We’re grown adults, I don’t care about continuing a back-and-forth bitch session anymore. If you wanna talk Halos ball with me, I’m down. If you don’t, that’s okay too.

For a final time, I’m sorry.
Genuinely hope that suffices. Life is too short to keep on with this lol.

Cool? Cool! 🙂

Last edited 18 days ago by Pineapple12
Angels2020Champs
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I don’t think any back and forth we’ve had has been fighting. So nothing to apologize for, I enjoy the cup checks. Keep doing you and feel free to call me out!

As someone who has shit on Rendon in previous years (and rightfully got called out with ‘what has he done, kicked your dog’ replies) I know I can improve on my diatribes at times. I’ve crapped on Trouts leadership, not just in the clubhouse but in things that have happened in his personal life. And you know what, he might be a big part in the ‘stay in the game’ campaigns I see on Bally Sports West. I watch other broadcasts and can tell you they much rather pimp out gambling links than Jesus washed feet commercials. I know he has a few different things going to honor his late BIL and still gets emotional talking about it. So I’ve been wrong plenty of times. I don’t need to beat my chest for things that have gone wrong/right.

You were (ST) and have been for Sano and I saw him make an outstanding defensive play during Wednesdays day game. He hits the ball hard too! And I did think of you and am happy anytime one of our players does well/a shot called on the interwebs is right. We just don’t need 10+ laughing emojis for when one of ours goes down (no matter how unliked they may be) or shout it from the rooftops if someone loses their job.

You’re a good contributor around here and I’m always down to talk Halos or baseball in general. My bad if I come across as a dick, I’m a recovering asshole.

smithy610
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

WOW.

I didn’t think the Hicks DFA would happen this early, this fast. When doing my preseason predictions, I had Hicks pegged as a trade chip come July for a middling prospect.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Where does Perry get these guys. Nothing personel, but Cole tucker is 27 and a former pirate who has been in the majors about as long as Jo Adell with about 175 fewer ABs. He is less than replacement level with a 57 career OPS+ and negative WAR. We literally don’t have enough of our own drafted minor league players to fill out our roster.We really have absolutely no organizational position player depth.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

It enables Adams to get steady ABs down on the farm.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Action shot of Perry and Crapino in search of players.

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Caught in the act.

DowningDude
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Total 15 win boost!!!!

Angelz4ever
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Some good news today.

Cowboy26
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Davis Daniel has an ERA of 8.10, an OPS against of .940 and a WHIP of 2.10 in his last 4 AAA starts . I would be shocked that he will provide any improvement but what the hell.

Twebur
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

$50.00 Eppei Bucks. Give me Danny D over Suarez, pitching line, over the next 3 innings.

FungoAle
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Hicks gone is good but he was dumped in the midst of a cold streak. Some hitters just get into funks but rather see Moniak face RH than Hicks.

Brent
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Miami

Cowboy26
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Brent

Its a murracle.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
18 days ago

over at mlb dot com there’s an article about Kristofak that says he was called up because of our depleted relief situation. Now I’m wondering is that because of injuries? Cisnero, I guess, but does one injury makes the staff depleted? Or is it because we have to have so many long relief outings? Probably that. Maybe.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
18 days ago

It’s going to be a tornado of relief moves this season. Stephenson was the only reliable option via talent. He’s gone. Estevez can close ok but that’s it. The rest is just a bunch of lower tier guys — some coming off prior injuries. Moore is ok as a lefty who can pitch a couple times a week. The rest is a crapshoot.

MarineLayer
Super Member
18 days ago

https://theathletic.com/5455390/2024/04/29/brandon-marsh-returns-angels-phillies-trade/

Interesting article about Marsh if you can get beyond the paywall where he essentially says the culture is much better in Philadelphia, which has allowed him to succeed more as a player.

smithy610
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Here, we have a plan. A process. We know who’s hitting. We know who’s going to play.”

If that’s not an indictment of the entire organization, not just Perry, nor the manager, nor the coaches, I don’t know what is.

Fansince1971
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Agree 💯

Jim Atkins
Super Member
19 days ago

I was at the meetup Saturday. As much fun as it was meeting the people behind the goofy screen names, that game so absolutely stank on ice that I really have trouble getting motivated for another Halos game. Been an Angels fan for about 47 years, and I am as close to giving up on them as I ever have.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

D’Backs or Padres meetup instead?

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
18 days ago

Padres, especially one one of the Beerfest nights. Party in the Tony Gwynn park beyond center field. $5 craft beers 90min before game! Most of the local Beer brewers participate.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

I’m in! Love that park too.

2GA2Join
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

I hear you. I’ve been a fan since the 80’s and this is the first time I’m kind of losing interest in baseball, which makes me feel sad inside to type out here, especially because it is April, and each year I’m so excited when spring comes and a new season is starting.

In the past, we’ve had some crumby teams, but somehow I’ve always had the hope that we’d catch fire and win a bunch and have an exciting season, and even if we missed the playoffs I’d see exciting building blocks being developed.

But now I just see a crumby team and I don’t think the owner really gives a hoot. I think the team could toil like this for more years. Or if he does give a hoot, his philosophy for building a good team is totally disconnected from reality, and isn’t working, and it doesn’t look like he is realizing that.

I just know that I came to the realization the other night that I need to notch down my expectations and excitement. Because I would get into a cycle where I’d see the game, get frustrated, come on this site and vent and/or read the venting of others, and then rinse and repeat the next night. I don’t need that cycle of negativity in my mind every day. I think I’ll transition to more of laughing it off and not caring anymore.

Honestly, it is likely, given how some of our ’90s teams were so stinky, that I used to just experience baseball like that as a norm. But I got spoiled with the domination of our 2000’s teams that I came to expect it, and forgot how to be an Angels fan.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I think we can safely say that Arte has no plans, no philosophy for building a good team. He doesn’t make the connection that winning is the best way to get fans into the stadium. Sad, I know.

Fansince1971
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I have loved the Angels since my first game with my dad in 1971.

That said, I’m much older and wiser now and realize I can love the Angels and have such disdain and disrespect for the Org that I just put my diehard fanship to the side. I can’t invest emotionally in an Org that is so poorly run at all levels and in every way. I still love the Angels but I can separate that emotion from the realities that it’s not worth getting emotionally invested at this time. If different ownership emerges, I’ll reconsider reconnecting to the avid level I was before.

MarineLayer
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

I’ve been a fan since opening day in 1961 and I’m feeling much the same way. Not only is the team bad now, but there seems to be no path to a productive future, and now I’m an old guy, not a seven year old kid.

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

I was at the game. Walked by section 201 during 6th inn wearing CA jersey 25 Edmonds. I don’t know anyone but definitely saw a bunch of people with nothing to cheer or smile about. If the game was closer I would have sat in an empty seat with the group. Worst game I’ve ever seen live.

tanana40
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Stick it out. I am exactly at 47 years (declared my loyalty during the 1976 season). Arte cannot stay forever and better times will happen sometime in the future which will make sticking it out worth it.

2GA2Join
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  tanana40

Wow.

I was reasonably young in 2002. Shortly afterwards, “Moneybags” Arte took over, and we signed Colon, Vlad, Kelvim, etc., and I had it in my mind that the team was going to be big contenders throughout most of my adult life (“Yankees of the west”). Gee, that didn’t exactly pan out.  😁 
At least I enjoyed really good years during the 2000’s.

DowningDude
Legend
19 days ago

Ron Washington turns 72 today.

Happy Birthday!

Twebur
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

My gift to Wash, another predictable L.

RexFregosi
Super Member
19 days ago

Fans: Forget Ohtani! and don’t do anything stupid on Free Agents, especially pitchers! Play the kids! and don’t let Rendon anywhere near the line-up!

Angels: 10-18

Cowboy26
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Who?

DowningDude
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Who’s on first

RexFregosi
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Bo knows

MarineLayer
Super Member
19 days ago

Who are we going to call up when Sano’s knee inflammation turns into Tommy John? We can’t keep rolling Rengifo or EHire out there. Maybe we can trade with the Padres for EGuy, in essence hire a new guy.

Last edited 19 days ago by MarineLayer
RexFregosi
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

if we can just hold on till June to the college draft, i’m sure we can find a ready-made MLB player that’s currently playing in some small college in the southeast US

MarineLayer
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I wonder if there’s anyone on this Board who could step in.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I play 3rd base on my softball team. The problem I’d have at the major league level would be making the throw to first. I’d have to Eck it…you know, kind of the way Eckstein made the play at shortstop. It would still look like a lob, though.

MarineLayer
Super Member
18 days ago

I’ve had my eye on you for a long time, although I’ve previously thought of you as a managerial candidate. Maybe you could be player/manager.

steelgolf
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

My son plays a pretty good 3rd base , but he wouldn’t be ready for major league pitching.

MarineLayer
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Just like a couple of guys currently on the roster, or they’ve probably moved into the category of no longer able to hit major league pitching.

Twebur
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

If Suarez can go 2 or 3 innings twice a week, I can go 1 a couple times a week.

But I’m not on the 40 man roster.

Twebur
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

The college will be the Fight’en something-somethings…

fyasko51
Trusted Member
19 days ago

So when are the City Connect Jerseys coming out. I want to see them lose in style. Also, just picked up a Trout CA Angels Jersey. Looks really nice

Twebur
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  fyasko51

They reworked them, City Connect In Decline Jerseys.

RexFregosi
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  fyasko51

Noting says lose in style like a City Connect Rendon jersey ;-|

Angelz4ever
Super Member
19 days ago

Nothing to see here folks, keep moving….

angelslogic
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

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Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
19 days ago

The good news is that the Angels are about as good as the Houston Astros.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Unfortunately that will likely not be the case by the end of the season.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
18 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

or the end of this week….possibly tomorrow night

Angelz4ever
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Such good news indeed.

BannedInLA
Super Member
19 days ago

Glancing at W-L percentages and 10-23 would be equivalent to 6-14.

We’re currently 10-18.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

We’re missing a few players from the 6-14 team.

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

By that logic, 48-112 would be equivalent to 6-14 as well so should this be a goal?

The point is, going 6-14 once out of a 20 game stretch does not kill your season if you play .600 baseball from that point forward. But doing it more than once in a season does not bode well.

BannedInLA
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Tongue & cheek comments are completely lost on you.

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I am not seeing much humor in this season or in this team or in this Org. Its such a mess. That said, I do appreciate cheekiness for sure and, in that light, I see what you were doing there.

Halo71
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

You pretty much have to laugh at this point.

Twebur
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Halo71

Or play a sad song….and collect the tears from the saddest Donkey, and drink them. Coincidence the Titanic sunk in April too?
https://youtu.be/uffHb6JgoiQ?si=BtH95qmRxHxT9zZp

Last edited 19 days ago by Twebur
Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Halo71

Now that I’m not investing my hard earned money into this Org, I do find more humor for sure.

Twebur
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Proving once again, boycotts don’t work. 😀

MarineLayer
Super Member
19 days ago

As bad as the White Sox are, do you Angels have two pitchers who are better than Garrett Crochet and Erick Fedde. Maybe Detmers is in their tier, but I think we need to be realistic about how bad our starting pitching is compared to the worst team in baseball.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
19 days ago

I also noticed they got rid of the halo for now. It’s a better idea to use it when you have a winning record, no point ina losing team celebrating that much.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
19 days ago

I agree

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

When the TEAM is not winning, crap like the antlers or halo are just focusing on individual accomplishments.

Brent
Super Member
19 days ago

I immediately thought it looked like a light up toilet seat and not a halo.

MarineLayer
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Brent

Perfect metaphor.

MarineLayer
Super Member
19 days ago

I’d prefer they’d bring it out for well-executed situational hitting or for a pitcher getting out of a jam caused by bad fielding or umping, or keeping us close after a starter was removed.

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