A Sloppy Postgame for a Sloppy Series by a Sloppy Team

11-5 Twins

The Angels got outpitched, outhit, outdefended, and overall outbaseballed on their way to getting swept by a supposedly not great Twins team. From what we had seen out of the top sides of the 4th and 5th innings, it wouldn’t have surprised me if Pablo Lopez had thrown a perfect game against the Little Leaguers we have out on the field.

Of course, it wouldn’t truly be a game in Anaheim if the Angels weren’t constantly trying to storm back from an immense self-inflicted deficit. In the 5th and 7th innings, as we have come to expect, they suddenly remembered how to hit and almost instilled hope, knocking around the previously dominant Lopez with his commanding 5 run lead to make it a 1-run game. This was capped by a back-to-back homers by Rengifo and Schanuel. Being the savvy postgame author I am, however, I did not bother to erase what I had written, instead merely amending the piece in anticipation of an eventual Luis Garcia appearance.

After the game was safely out of hand, Zac Kristofak had a touching major league debut where he gave up only 2 runs in 2 innings of work to cement his position as the second best arm in the bullpen. Jokes aside, the Angels’ third error of the day created those runs in the first place and they were unearned.

Angels play against a good team next and look to continue to be the team they have been for 14 near-consecutive years now. Look forward to it.

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MikeSalmon
Super Member
19 days ago

Hey! Los Angeles Angels! You’ve just lost 9 of the last 10! What’re ya gonna do?

Trout: I’m walking to Disneyland!

Mia
Legend
Mia
19 days ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

Force them to ride Small World for a few hours after every loss and watch the record change.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
19 days ago

A healthy rendone and no suarez and this team wouldn’t be as bad.

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago

Hahaha!!

You are missing that this team is bad because it’s one of the worst Orgs I. Baseball. To say a healthy Rendone (😂) or no Suarez is missing the bigger picture.

Last edited 19 days ago by Fansince1971
clover_black
Super Member
19 days ago

Imagine if this team had the dodgers roster.., they wouldn’t be as bad.

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago

Wrote this in the other postgame but am reposting here. The reality to me is that Ohtani added 10+ WAR in an 73,win season and was not replaced. So if statistics mean anything we are headed toward an approximately 65 win season. So this is what I posted:

The impact of Shohei leaving can start to be seen in the statistics.

In 2023 where the Angels won 73 games the team averaged 4.56 runs per game and had an average ERA of 4.64.

In 2024 the team is averaging 4.22 runs per game with an ERA of 4.86.

This means the team is hitting and pitching significantly worse in 2024. When you lose a player like Shohei and don’t replace him – this is not unexpected.

If the Angels continue to average around 4.2 runs while giving up almost 5 per game, they will likely be drafting very high in next year’s draft.

Last edited 19 days ago by Fansince1971
Angelz4ever
Super Member
19 days ago

I am just gonna remain silent, it is my right……

angelslogic
Super Member
19 days ago

Remember when the Angels were first in the standings? Yeah, those were good times.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Wash after the game:

“The thing that was disheartening is to watch us just fall apart on the defensive side, fall apart on the offensive side, fall apart in the pitching department.”

smithy610
Super Member
19 days ago

So basically, fall apart in everything then. So much word salad from Wash.

Twebur
Legend
19 days ago

2024 Angels have been placed on the Red Triage Tarp….not good.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Soon to be black expectant

FungoAle
Super Member
19 days ago

Oakland could be a real threat to 4th place come September, bumping the Halos to the basement. They have a very effective bullpen. Filthy. Offense is bad, like Anaheim, but pitching can overcome hitting woes. Aka Seattle. If the Halos finish in 5th, I want Arte’s balls in a jar on my desk.

Twebur
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

The A’s are a better team than us, subject to change, but they are noticeably better.

halofansince1978
Super Member
19 days ago

Was a 26th player ever added to the roster today?

Brent
Super Member
19 days ago

Would that even matter?

halofansince1978
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Brent

That’s not the correct answer.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago

Schedule doesn’t really slack off until the end of June.

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

If you are bottom 5 in baseball (as I believe the Angels are) the schedule never slackens.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
19 days ago

let’s review….

instead of having $68 million to spend, with Ohtani’s money freed up, Perry was told that Ohtani money was specifically Ohtani money and not GM spending money so he had $29 million. And here’s where it went. I invite anyone to correct this if I’ve missed something.
   RHP Robert Stephenson: Three years, $33MM
   LHP Matt Moore: One year, $9MM
   RHP Luis Garcia: One year, $4.25MM
   RHP Jose Cisnero: One year, $1.75MM
   RHP Adam Cimber: One year, $1.65MM
   RHP Zach Plesac: One year, $1MM
   LHP Adam Kolarek: One year, $900K (later outrighted off roster)
 OF Aaron Hicks: One year, prorated league minimum

Stephenson out for the year
Moore 3.72…he’s been pretty good for the most part
Garcia 6.55 ERA
Cisnero 5.31 last year, now 7.07 ERA
Cimber 7.40 last year, now 3.65, good enough
Plesac, 7.59 last year, 7.03 at Salt Lake City
Kolarek, 8.59 at SLC
Hicks, .140 BA, .415 OPS

Perry went for quantity with limited resources and we’re getting the results.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
19 days ago

And he signed all that quantity while quality starting pitchers were available.

Michael Lorenzen is making $250k more in base salary than Luis Garcia.

Put him in the rotation and Soriano in the bullpen and we’re a much better team.

Mike Clevinger is making $1.25 LESS than Luis Garcia.

The free agent market moved at a glacial pace. Yet Perry blew his load super early.

steelgolf
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The huge over pay for Luis Garcia is the biggest head scratcher for me. I just don’t understand what he was thinking with that move for that kind of money. He is a league minimum guy at best.

FungoAle
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Soriano is possibly, likely, the second best starter the Angels have.

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

What a statement!!

FungoAle
Super Member
19 days ago

Perry is horrible at valuing free agents, we have a lot of history to inform us, but rest assure, none of these FAs, including Ohtani, would be able to mask all the issues with this organization. We’d likely be a couple of game a better but not a contending team.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
19 days ago

The facts tend to show Perry isn’t good at what he does. Sadly. What are his positive free agent or other moves?

He traded Marsh — a quality young OF for O’Hoppe and Moniak. That’s his best move and it was basically a push.

He signed Drury to a fair deal. Drury did some good things last year but now it’s ugly.

What else? Tepera? Loup? The current bullpen? Sano as a reclamation project?

They have drafted multiple classes. We have Neto and Schanuel from that. It’s been pretty brutal.

2GA2Join
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Here we go with the blame Perry train again. The team stinks, so I certainly can’t blame people for being frustrated and venting.
I think I’m starting to enter the “detachment” phase, myself. Like today I didn’t even think about the fact that there had probably been a ballgame until like 4PM. And then I checked the score and was reminded why I wasn’t all that excited about baseball anymore.

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

It’s not Perry just like it wasn’t Eppler or Dipoto. It’s the Org plain and simple. A team that has Arte, Carpino, Kuhl and Jolly in charge will not win. But for getting lucky and landing Ohtani this team probably averages 65 wins the last couple seasons.

Last edited 19 days ago by Fansince1971
fyasko51
Trusted Member
19 days ago

And it’s only going to get uglier. The first half of the season is brutal. And to be honest, just trade Trout. Let him be happy going to contender. His Angel career has been Shakespearean. Just tear it all down

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  fyasko51

That ship has sailed, now we would get a bag of dirty socks and a check for about 100 mil. Otherwise not a bad idea.

Halo71
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  fyasko51

He’s untradeable. The Angels would have to eat most of his contract

fyasko51
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Halo71

I do believe there’s a lot value left in Trout. Guy desperately needs a change of scenery. Sucking is contagious especially when half the team is full of scrubs.

FungoAle
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  fyasko51

I’d flip him to the Dodgers or Phillies, put Moniak in center

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
19 days ago

We’ve all seen stretches of bad baseball by the Angels but this is the worst I’ve seen in years.

And with it still being April that doesn’t bode well.

Halo71
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’ve been a fan since 1979 and this is the worst stretch I’ve ever seen.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

My pre-season prediction of 59-103 is looking pretty good.

And by “good” I mean gawdawful lousy.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

yeah, currently on a 58-104 pace. I said 65-97 and I’ll be sad if that was hopium.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

There was the 14 game losing streak

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

But but but Wash and 15 WAR!!

steelgolf
Super Member
19 days ago

SF Giants starting pitchers have a 0.95 ERA over the last 7 games.

FungoAle
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

The other Hicks, Jordan, has turned into a pretty good sign thus far. Cheaper AAV than Stephenson.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Good thing Snell went down

clover_black
Super Member
19 days ago

This team is gross.

Mia
Legend
Mia
19 days ago
Reply to  clover_black

Total ick.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

I’m perplexed as to why everyone is surprised with the results thus far.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
19 days ago

B/c of the Wash 15!

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago

I don’t think most are surprised as much as disappointed. Most knew but as fans had hoped for better.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I hoped for something at least competitive until late June or so. Not a disaster in April. Rendon was hitting and getting on base. Trout was smashing a few dingers. And then the whole thing just imploded.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago

Also, playing .500 for the first 20 had people felling more optimistic.

clover_black
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Rendon turning a corner was pretty sweet for like 5 games!

WallyChuckChili
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  clover_black

We will never be the same without him

Dinkycreek
Member
19 days ago

The GOAT has turned into the goat.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
19 days ago

I figured this team would take its lumps but also have some competitive stretches.

Thus far this year the only thing we’ve done outside of Miami is take lumps.

Twebur
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Fully expected a low 70 win season…just more aesthetically pleasing and competitive. You can be competitive and lose a lot. I hate that I care about this team…….see you tomorrow.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
19 days ago

Lost 9 if the last 10. It must be Maddon’s fault

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
19 days ago

 😂 

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

The team misses the Mohawk

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
19 days ago

If you finish 162 game schedule in last place it does not equate to getting the first pick in the draft. Just a note to Arte. Plus, he should of taken one of those 25 billion dollar offers last year, I’m not sure if those offers will be coming in now.

steelgolf
Super Member
19 days ago

Still have to win the ball lottery to see which team gets the first pick. So Angels would still pick at #10.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
19 days ago

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FungoAle
Super Member
19 days ago

Never at once had the lead in this series, 5 errors, 373 total pitches thrown in the last 2-games, the pen is ineffective and here comes the Phillies. Maybe Trout will want to leave with them.

Brent
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

That’s gotta be the biggest shock out of this. Not having a single MF lead this entire series. Garbage roster.

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