This article has the Angels or the Giants as the ideal fits for Blake Snell. While the Angels were to said to be in the trade market for some one year rentals, it also said the Angels didn’t really have anything with which to trade. Thank you Perry. Pitcher Daniel Castano signed with the KBOs NC Dinos. He will be getting at least $650,000.00. The Royals seem to be finalizing a deal with Chris Stratton. Zach Grienke might have to go find a different team.
Daniel Hudson just got a minor league deal with the Dodgers.
Larry Doby posthumously received the Congressional Gold Medal.
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
So now we read that Arturo was given a chance to match the Doyers and refused. Speechless.
If he wasn’t going to match then he should have traded him last year or the year before if the story is true
To be completely honest – I’m not bothered by that. The amount is laughably overpriced for a team not named Dodgers or Yankees.
Lets pretend that Ohtani would stay if we matched (he wouldn’t have) – there was a real chance we were as mediocre for the next 10 years as we’ve been for the past 6…..and then the next era of Angels baseball would have a $68M annual commitment to a guy whos not even on the roster for a DECADE.
That was mere lip service to show respect to the Angels by Shohei’s team. Doubt we had any sort of chance. Maybe like an ice cube in hell.
shoulda matched.
actually, shoulda blown past that.
I woulda loved to see what this team could have done with Ohtani. woulda been magical.
Anyone remember Wash’s interview a little more than a week ago at the Winter Meetings and his implication that he had information he could not discuss regarding Ohtani and then him grinning like a cat?! Any thoughts what that was all about now that we know reality?! Was Wash in the dark or intentionally misleading to try to sell some season tickets?
Ramblings of a Coke head. Just like his list of coaches he was bringing in.
Unnecessary comment lol
My excitement level when the Dodgers don’t win the WS with their roster might be equivalent to the Angels winning the WS.
Sad but true.
That deferment BS needs to be addressed retroactively at the next CBA. MLB doesn’t do sign & trades like the NBA in the interest of “fairness” but allows deferment.
You really think the owners, or the players would not want it? Pay a player with devalued dollars that you can buy at a discount for a player today. Salary cap hit lower. Player gets gazillions of dollars over the long term. Why would they want to?
Popeye’s buddy Wimpy agrees: “I will gladly pay you next decade for a world series today.”
Chargers and Angels are Sister teams.
Horrible ownership on both sides
Ducks, too… started strong and now just straight garbage.
The Chargers and Angels are their respective leagues sister wives.
Don’t forget the Clippers.
Yet both remain my teams. sigh.
I don’t hate Shohei but I do prefer Angel Shohei to Dodger Shohei
I don’t hate Shohei.
But when I do, he plays on the Doyers.
Stay angry my friends.
Shohei “Benedict Arnold” Ohtani.
Arte is ultimately at fault for everything. But to hell with this “can you blame Ohtani?” nonsense. Yes, I blame him for asking not to be traded at the deadline, then signing with the cross town rivals.
Dude is dead to me forever.
I hope Trout gets his chance, at Dodger stadium, to hit a go-ahead 450 ft shot off Ohtani, and take his sweet ass time jogging around the bases.
Spittin’ Liquid Hot Magma.
Never thought about a Trout vs Ohtani AB until just now… of course, that’s not likely to happen until the 2025 season at the earliest. But, hell, he may not even be an Angel by then (imagine he asks for a trade to the Doyers!)
The Dodgers wouldn’t trade for Trout in a million years and you already know that if they actually wanted to that marketing genius Arte would squash that so quick.
Trout vs Ohtani will end in a K. EVERY. TIME.
I know Bobby V is Perry’s long time family friend but I doubt he’ll still be saying “We” much longer after Arte reads these comments:
https://twitter.com/BeyondTheHalo/status/1735433829517873536
Bye bye Bobby-V!
Jeff,
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1735465837455450244?s=20
Bullshit
Even if the angels had every opportunity and then some…… why would ohtani remain in mediocrity?
mediocrity? that’s what i am hoping for this year
your wish will be granted.
Nahhhhhhh. F-ck the Dodgers for real 😂😂😂
“BREAKING: The Los Angeles Dodgers and Tampa Bay Rays are in agreement on a trade to send RHP Tyler Glasnow and OF Manuel Margot to the Dodgers for RHP Ryan Pepiot and OF Jonny Deluca — contingent on Glasnow signing an extension with L.A., which is expected, sources tell ESPN.”
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1735462247730753880?t=4qqO6CAeaUzUDseDHy8qTw&s=19
Lol
Dodgers are intent on taking the entire So Cal fanbase except the Angel diehards. The Dodgers hated when the franchise was put in Anaheim in 1961 and now they are going full WWW3 to reduce the Angels to rubble. Watch for 10,000 fans per night at Angel stadium.
It’s actually pretty impressive
*1966
they played at the latrine their first 5 years.
We might as well relocate to Portland.
What joke am I missing here?
I’d be ok with that
Or Spokane.
ha ha i see what you did there
The only relocation location I’d approve! haha
Just like the Yankees trying to buy a World Series. So much for their minor leaguers and thinking they could win a championship for them
I hope the dodgers fail at everything
the sick part is the Dodgers still maintain an incredibly deep and fertile farm system 😂😂😂
Is that good?
Wasn’t it their minor leagues that produced the chips?
Can you name 10 minor leaguers that they traded to win a World Series that they haven’t won that have become stars or are they just good at hyping their minor leaguers I think the rays are Better
All I dd was point out that they had the chips to get the players they wanted because they develop. Rage boner much?
FRom 1982 to 1993 Steinbrenner tried to buy every free agent he could. They made the playoffs ZERO times . It wasn’t until his GM Gene Michel convinced the boss to build up the farm ssytem through scouting and international signings that they became a mini dynasty again. Of course they still bought a fair share of free agents as well.
There is a small possibility that the doyers will be decent this year.
People can & will hate on this and I get it. To a degree. That said, if the Angels were making these moves, 99% of us would be doing the ShuffleBot in unison.
You ain’t gotta’ lie, Craig.
Oh, I am not hating haha. Respect to LAD.
Dodgers are an absolute juggernaut.
And now anything but a WS Ring is a failure…….I know the playoffs are crapshoot, but, again, if they don’t win the WS WITH THIS ROSTER THEY HAVE FAILED!!!! It will be a major disappointment…….good luck with the pressure to flip the switch after you sit at home for a week after winning 115 games and the NL West division title is won in April….and at no point during the season are you remotely challenged is not a good thing.
They’re completing for a World Series.
We’re competing for a 3rd place 🥉 finish.
3rd place in the Division to be precise
3rd would be a major victory.
They actually look at every season as a failure if it doesn’t end with a Championship. That’s what any organization (sport or non) that prides itself on excellence does. Anyone who doesn’t is bound for “good enough” and mediocrity.
Failure every year since 1988… How many years is that? Too GA to count.
Not all organizations are created equal. Not very many teams, not very often, attempt to literally buy a championship. And no shame in that…..but if you do and don’t win a ring it’s a supreme failure of a season. Most teams aren’t excellent, most of MLB doesn’t come close to winning a ring. But you might have had a great season, a season to be proud of, a season that was excellent for you.
Again, I am not trolling or looking to have all the rage boners pointed at me. It just seems so obvious, it’s laughable all the whining year after year about how every team better than the Angels is somehow “cheating”. I don’t care about finger pointing and whining. If “Division Champion” ribbons qualifies as a great season, and that’s ok with you, OK.
Fuck the dodgers and their fans
Dodgers are going to be a force.
And the Dodgers immediately show him their commitment to winning.
They’ve basically tried everything else to win a ring. May as well overload and try to finally get there. (I still don’t count 2020)
Can’t blame them.
Ever since the current ownership group took over, the Dodgers have proven they will spare no expense to win. Nothing but respect.
2020 season never counted and will never count. Stupid season lol
I wish I could be a Dodger fan. Stupid Angels got in me when I was young. So I have to hate the Dodgers even though it would be way more fun to be a fan.
Where’s GB and the rest of us old guys? It didn’t seem to be so line of death in the sand when we were kids. We were happy to have two, then three teams around.
1997 and interleague changed the flavor. Add internet and social media and it’s a lit bomb.
I been a Angels fan since the 60’s and I hated Dodgers mostly because I was the only Angels fan in my neighborhood the rest had their Dodgers hats and gave me nothing but grief about the Angels. Besides the Giants, the Dodgers are my most hated sports team.
So next they’ll nab Yamamoto, then finish it off with Snell.
I’m guessing Burnes is off the table. He would be my No.1 target.
BREAKING:
From an excerpt of a phone call from Perry to the Rays earlier today:
“But what if I throw in 10,000 red Ohtani jerseys… does that beat what the Dodgers are offering you for Glasnow?”
LOL…It just doesn’t make sense for the Angels to give up assets for a 1-yr rental when the team has roster flaws. Let the kids play.
If I’m the Rays, I make that trade in a heart beat
Pepiot is a good return for the Rays.
And We probably could have got Pepiot and 3 other Doyer Prospects last July.
I’m convinced Shohei’s reps told the Dodgers to hold off until he hit FA.
Shohei’s 2nd MVP >>> Pepiot and prospects
Disagree 100%. I could give 2 shits about individual accomplishments.
That would have been a team changing trade.
F the dodgers
I would literally donate money to have a plane fly above Angels stadium with a sign that said “Sell the team”
A’s fans gave the good Ole college try with their chants and signs. No go. These owners have some amazing earmuffs
Angels fans sound exactly like Raiders fans vis-a-vis ownership.
https://www.alltimefavorites.com/local/Advertising-Giveaways-Promotional-Items/advertising-specialty-Aerial-Display-Services/California/Orange-County.htm
If the front office could read they’d be very upset.
🤣
I actually liked the presser that Shohei had 6 years ago when he was asked why he picked “17” for number, and he said “27” was not available. This pressor was essentially ho-hum boring except the part where he revealed his dog’s name. I will leave with two predictions.
Shohei may actually pitch or at least throw after All Star game next year. He had the same type of surgery that Brock Purdy had. I was impressed that American media asked that question, but too bad they were not allowed to ask follow up question. That may be the reason why Mookie Betts will play 2nd baseman to permit Shohei to play outfield.I still believe Yamamoto will go to the highest bidder, which will either be the Mets or MFYankees. Doyers will only help raise the price, and many MLB teams are now offering this Ohtani style deferred payment deal to Cody Bellinger, Blake Snell, or other expensive FAs, which might be slowing the process of FA signings.
Now, I will turn to read-only. Thank you so much for your encouragement. I will keep on working to be a better husband, father, and person every single day. SAYONARA.
No offense but Ohtani is past tense around here. Come back when Roki signs here at the BIG A.
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Kiyotchan, before you go, I’ve been wanting to show you this statue I saw from the Ise train station last month. My wife described him as the Japanese “Cy Young”. Bye, and best wishes for the future.
We were blessed with 6 seasons of ShoGoat OhtanGoat, despite having one of the worst owners in professional sports.
I call that a win.
I would have questioned Ohtani’s sanity if he would have wanted to stay an Angel.
I’ll follow his career with the Dodgers and root him on, but everything that’s come to light since he announced the move to blue is making the loss easier to stomach.
Angels, as an organization under Arte, never deserved Ohtani in the first place. Now he can finally be where he wanted to be all along. I am eternally grateful for the memories.
Time to move on.
Not me
Slight quibble
we were blessed to see 3 years cumulative of super human baseball. The other seasons were interrupted by major injuries or he underperformed expectations.
Shohei was damn good in 2018 and ’19, he just wasn’t “greatest of all time” good yet. 2020 is an imaginary season that never happened — some claim Rendone was good then.
Watching Sho come stateside and grow into the player he blossomed into is all part of the experience, for me at least.
Incredible journey to watch up close.
LOL damn good?! Seriously?!
He was ok enough for a ROY award in 2018, but stopped pitching in June.
In 2019, he missed part of the seasons when he only started in May, due to the TJS, and then ended his season early again in September due to a knee injury. As a full-time DH, with ZERO positional or defensive value, he’s middle of the pack, or right just below the middle of the pack.
Meanwhile, Trout had an MVP season in 2019 despite a major losing record.
Where was this “if only Shohei wasn’t injured enough to help Trout reach the playoffs” sentiment back then?!
3.9 WAR in his 1st MLB season, hitting AND pitching (until TJS). Very impressive.
2.5 WAR in 106 games as just a hitter before the knee surgery.
The injuries were unfortunate.
They are impressive for 1st/2nd year player but not why didn’t you win the World Series, you had Ohtani/Trout impressive.
If arte was so bad then why did shohei choose to sign here to begin with?
Because (1) he wanted the west coast (2) he needed a team where he could DH (so at the time AL only), (3) he had a relationship with Eppler and (4) he was impressed with Trout.
Arte had zero to do with it.
The guy paying his paychecks had zero to do with him signing here. I’m gonna call bs on that.
In reading the summaries from the presser:
So other than the name of the dog, nothing else was “new news”?
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1735445315854201041?s=20
LOL,
Maybe the difference was that Ohtani wanted a clause that gave him an opt-out if the owner DIDN’T change….
If he wanted to come back and we couldn’t make the money work…
He wasn’t coming back lol.
It’s a fun quote, but Ohtani had no interest returning to Anaheim when the Dodgers came knocking.
So then why even bother going back to the Angels at the end of the process? Shits & giggles?
If Ohtani had already made up his mind that he wasn’t returning then there’s no need to give the Angels a second meeting.
Common courtesy to let the Angels have an opportunity to match the Dodgers’ offer. We could’ve matched, or even exceeded, but Ohtani was destined for LA blue imo.
Yeah nah, I don’t buy it. If Ohtani was dead set on leaving there is no second meeting with the Angels.
The Japanese way. It was about showing respect.
Nah, this was about Arte not wanting to agree to the deal Shohei proposed. That’s what this is about. Sho and his agent gave the Angels every opportunity and in the end Arte wasn’t going to agree to a deal that defers 97% of his contract.
Not sure why you’d think this was the reason. We all know Shohei wants to win. He said so, and I don’t think he is a liar.
Probably right, but…
https://twitter.com/BeyondTheHalo/status/1735431024849588628?s=20
….and Arte asked Nez “can you explain the concept of deferring salary so that a 5 year old could understand?”
Bingo!
Arte’s never liked to do that. Even when he was a minirty Owner with the D Backs he fought the other owners over the massive deferrals in Randy Johnson Contract
No way the angels wouldn’t have given him what he wanted especially with all the Japanese money Arte was getting
He’s an agent. Trying to make his guy look good
Nah this is about making Arte look bad.
I think Jessica should impose a kangaroo court to fine anyone that mentions that player who signed for $700M. The proceeds will be used to fund our 2024 MLB draft lotto party.
Get over it, soon.
Now would be cool.
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=Awr92OyCnXtlM8kEeOC3mWRH;_ylu=c2VjA3NyBHNsawN2aWQEZ3BvcwMx?p=mike+jones+back+then&vid=0d201a1912b50b61e180096e251ed4c5&turl=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.Mw2o9cSt39wuiJTSyrE3ZwHgFo%26pid%3DApi%26h%3D150%26w%3D250%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dm1ERvlxgCD8&tit=Mike+Jones+-+Back+Then+%28Official+Music+Video%29&c=0&sigr=PY1Wq93S0czO&sigt=JRlm8_V6gfpJ&sigi=oRr9OV2V8ch9&fr=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&h=150&w=250&l=284&age=1256608321&fr=iphone&tt=b
Jeff,
arte and his frat buddies can’t be happy w/ that presser.
ohtani clearly stating he wanted to be with an organization devoted to winning from the top down.
Yes, he did say that, and I was curious as to if Ippei would say that, and he did. I wonder Arte would ever be asked whether he would regret for not having a better team to surround Shohei (and, for that matter, Trout).
Arte won’t be asked because his underlings will screen all of your questions and ban you for asking something that is “too negative.”
He’s a man in an ivory castle completely insulated from reality.
As much as it pains me to see Ohtani go to the team I hate the most along with the Red Sox, this is absolutely Arte’s worst nightmare. And for that, it makes me stomach this better and just hope Arte decides to sell soon. If he does, then I can come back and be a fan of this franchise. Arte has completely ruined my fandom of this franchise to the point where I genuinely don’t have interest in watching the MLB this year.
He’s not insulated completely. He knows everyone hates him. That’s why he doesn’t make any on field trips anymore. The people use to love him, that 04 offseason was great. But I doubt even his wife loves him anymore.
Good for him to say it. It needs to be said. Arte and his goons need to get the F out of Dodge.
If people really want Arte to sell, the only way to do it is hit him in the wallet. Otherwise nothing is going to change.
This is definitely what I plan to do. My passion is baseball and I grew up being an Angels fan, but Arte has forced me to stop being a fan of this team. As long as he’s the owner he’s not receiving a dime from me economically, even in viewership. I genuinely do enjoy keeping up with the team through CTPG as I’ve been following for a while since Rev was running Halos Heaven. But at some point, if you are contributing in making Arte’s wallet fatter, then nothing will change. So I genuinely hope the Angels are one of the worst team in the league with a bottom of the barrel attendance now that Sho has gone to Arte’s most hated team.
Have you seen the attendance numbers the Last 10+ years ? they’ve been terrible compared to the 2000’s And when all the Ohtani Fans go up the freeway next season it will be even worse. Between that as well as the loss of all the Ohtani endorsement money as well as the uncertainty with the local TV deal , I’f Arte aint feeling it next year he aint ever going to feel it.
I have already been getting emails from The Angels. Apparently I have an inside sales representative assigned to me in case I want to get a suite, a block of tickets, season ticket seats, etc., etc.
Please let this lead to his selling the team
I have. Been going to Angels stadium since I was in diapers once Disney renovated the stadium. So I’ve seen first hand how attendance has plummeted in the past decade. And this year surely has to be a record low in attendance during his entire tenure. So hopefully that, with another mediocre team and uncertain TV deal he decides to actually sell the team
They are not getting a single dime from me until Arte sells.
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Just saw that apparently Valentine claims Perry was about to pull the trigger on a huge trade for Ohtani last summer, and then he had to stop.
Aaaarrrrggghhh!!!!!!!
At least that backs my positive evaluation of Perry…
I’m with you, I still don’t think he’s done a bad job at all. Our floor has improved a lot. He went for it last year and missed. I realize we didn’t get what we wanted, but we had a legit shot at making the post season and we tried. It failed and now we pick up ourselves and move forward.
The depth chart looks good IMO and now the need comes from our youth taking steps forward in their progressiono as MLB ball players. If that happens, this team is pretty good and I feel 2-3 FA in 2025 from contenting again.
Again, the youth must get better and maintain/improve their porduction, and I believe we have a manager now that can help with that
Yup, seems like the floor is 4th place. Thank you Oakland.
That is pure Arte Moreno ladies and gentlemen – Perry is a decent GM. Not great. Not terrible. Unfortunately he has to listen to the higher ups in a terrible baseball Org.
Perry’s eye for talent is very questionable
The fact that Arte hired PTP makes me wonder if he viewed PTP as someone who would easily bend to his will.
Source?
LMAO…geeze. Pull down your Minasian poster.
I was actually looking for some tangible insight . Apparently thats not your strong suit.
Sure, sarcastic as can be
Valentine saying Minasian was about to make a blockbuster trade then Tom Verducci came out with an article saying he’s not going to get traded.
lmfao what? thats wild if true, and if arte communicates through national writers to his staff.
Good ol Bobby V. He is 420 friendly.
I believe your post, but I don’t believe anything Valentine says.