I think regardless of whether or not people here want him to come back in the first place, that he will be going to a new team.
This collapse has been so embarrassing and low, that when he faces the opportunity to go to any team, he will see what a mess things were here and want to start afresh.
Bitterly disappointing season, and lamenting that it happened is certainly well and good… but please, let’s tap the breaks on this abused-lover, now-I’m-gone-for-good nonsense people keep spreading. The Angels are not a heroin addiction. They are not ruining your life. You are not quitting them. That’s all performative dog shit. You’ll be back next spring just like everyone else. And when the turn comes, it will be arguably sweeter.
They truly believe Rendon conspired with (invisible force) to take the money and run while deliberately injuring himself repeatedly after knob-slobbing one another over OMG WE BEAT THE DODGERS!!.
I’m not sure why you’re surprised, Vernon Wells got the very same treatment (after not demanding a trade and being traded here).
Look at the man who is the VERY definition of lazy on this site. Notice a common thread?
Why Win? We can’t make the playoffs- trAdition. If we did make the playoffs (A huge IF) we won’t beat anyone, even one game, because no Shohei. So, embrace the the high dive to the bottom, next year’s improvement will look better, and a better draft choice could make a difference. Our needs are simple, more pitching, a CF’er (“Cuz we will have traded Trouty to Philly), a Third Baseman, can you draft a new owner? Ok, dumb question (going for the laugh, but not funny.) The only thing we can do as fans is find a watering hole with Draft Beer 🍺 At the Big A it’s only 12 bucks, no wonder we can afford to pay 40-million-dollar contracts.
Ask Rendon what do you call our current streak? El Folddough.
which sounds worse? 8-25 in our most recent stretch, or we’ve lost 25 of our last 33 games.
I’m just having fun here because what else is there to do? Those 33 games represent about 20% of the entire season. Playing at that level over 162 games would give us a 39-123 record. Yikes!
So, you’ve heard of reverse phycology, right. So here is how it applies the rest of the season – root for the team to “not win” and they will just do the opposite and “win”. 🤓
Well, a sweep of Cleveland would end their playoff dreams.
But, a sweep by Cleveland would make the Twins sweat and would make the Angels v Twins series later this month very interesting.
Either way, as long as the next series is a sweep, I’m fine.
I could see this team having a 13 game losing streak, getting swept by the Guardians and the Mariners. That is what happens when more than half of the team belongs in the minors. Hopefully, Arte does decide that hes tired of being the laughing stock of owners and sells the team.
Also, it is good seeing Rendon’s unprofessionalism being recognized by the national media. Act like the pro thats getting paid $35 mil and not acting like Tony D’bags
The Foundation Building Materials’ keystone of the game tonight for the Angels against the Whomever-It-Is-They’re-Playings is “Last of Our Kind” by The Darkness.
There weren’t very many fans at the Angel game last night. Interest is dwindling. Pineapple12 just threw in the towel. Jeff Joiner tried to rally what’s left of us with a ‘what to watch for now that the season is shit’ post the other day.
After decades of following the Angels, I actually mustered the fortitude to quit them last year. Baseball is stupid. The last decade of the Angels even more so. The franchise has just turned into a corporation where all of its employees work to put on whatever spectacle they can manage in order to get some money for themselves and to increase the wealth of its billionaire owner.
But because I suffered some lasting trauma in my junior high days and I was able to distract myself with baseball, this professional sport has been able to wrap me in psychological chains that I can’t really break free from.
Nothing that a solid pitching coach can’t fix. One that doesn’t have a one size fits all approach. One that can implement a game plan to get hitters out. Someone who doesn’t make pitching harder with two outs. One that doesn’t love a certain pitch, and is capable of making individuals pitch to their strengths. Someone that understands a scouting report.
This is all assuming that Wise is the primary monster here. And not a PTP mandated pitching philosophy that has become an embarrassment.
Both might be a fault, but noting will ever change my opinion about the mouth breather Wise. I’ll assume PTP can adjust. 🤞🤞🤞
For what it’s worth, pitchers have repeatedly said Wise isn’t the problem. They alluded to the upper management forcing like what you said, is a “one-size-fits-all” approach, with too much focus on inducing Ks, pitch shapes, etc., and not too much on pitching to the situation (inducing a groundball double play instead of so many pitches needed to K a batter).
I still believe Sandy and Reid’s issues can be fixed. Both had good seasons not too long ago, so it’s disappointing to see them regress. But they’re young enough to be fixable.
I hear you, and agree they are very fixable, might have a differing opinion on how to fix it.
I don’t recall ever hearing a pitcher publicly call out their pitching coach, ever. They were asked and they answered, the professional thing to do. If it’s happened recently I’m sure Mr Chan will do the proper internet research to point out I’m wrong.
Besides, IMHO they might know any better, Stockholm syndrome comes to mind. I’m willing to side with PTP’s pitching philosophy 51/49% over his teacher. Wise is the guy in charge, he’s done nothing to keep his job, and shouldn’t even be here to be fired. Let me know if he gets a MLB job next year as a pitching coach.
When pitchers and staff members were asked privately for their honest opinions, they had some theories about the reasons for the team-wide pitching failure.
Most of them agreed on one count.
There has been an organizational philosophy – one that comes “from the top” of baseball operations, not from Wise, a player insisted – to concentrate more on spin, velocity and movement instead of command and working through game situations.
One of the reasons the Angels were emphasizing pitch shapes, the pitchers said, is that the team was looking for more strikeouts. This year’s shift ban, plus the Angels’ overall weaker defensive infield, prompted the team to try to avoid contact.
The problem with that approach, the pitchers said, is it means too many deep counts, and too many breaking balls. The Angels rank 29th in the majors in fastball percentage.
one pitcher suggested that perhaps this year the game plans have gotten too predictable for opposing hitters.
Each day the pitching plan is the product of the work of five to 10 people, including the pitcher, one or two catchers, Wise, Hezel and a number of analysts.
The result of that plan, some pitchers suggested, is too often inflexible, not allowing for the myriad ways that situations can change during a game. A handful of Angels pitchers are not allowed to shake off the catcher, the pitchers said.
Obviously Perry might be the one to fire Wise only to get fired himself right after, I’m fine with both those things at this point.
But it’s best we find a guy that can teach this philosophy. Or the next one that comes along. I’m 100% sure Perry is guilty of all that was said. But I’ll say with certainty that it can’t get worse if Wise stays…..check that, it’s the Angels, it can.
!NEWSFLASH! Paparazzi confirm the following is Matt Wise at an organizational training session for pitchers teaching the proper technique for increasing spin, velocity and movement.
After their weighted balls work out, our opponents BBIP exit velocity, with 2 outs, increased by 2.9 MPH…Wise has improved arm angle and ability to repeat pitches. This is video of the Poop Sweeper.
This photo reminds me of the most satisfying bowel movement I ever had.
Whenever I travel, I always have shy bowels, and on one particular trip, I hadn’t had a movement in 15 days. About ten days in without taking a dump, I got a little worried and bought some laxatives at a pharmacy on one of the Dalmatian Islands, but they produced zero results.
Then when my wife and I were in the Plitvice Lakes National Park in Croatia, I finally felt a presence in my colon. I located a bathroom at the park and went inside. What I found was amusingly shocking — there were no toilets, just a couple holes in the ground outlaid with a flat metal plate for you to put your feet on while you squatted down like Sandoval there.
So I assumed the position, and the results were glorious.
Thank you, official Angels photographer, for including this shot in your gallery. It brought back a nice memory.
There’s actually been a few small studies that squatting while defecating ensures proper alignment of the rectum and reduces straining. Sitting for bowel movements is probably bad for our health (leads to diverticulosis, which in turn can lead to diverticular disease, which is associated with a higher risk of prostate cancer), we just haven’t proven it yet.
As stated tix are dirt cheap. Thinking on getting some for Fri game. Would be awesome if Ohtani came back that day, the tickets would jump 3x in value. Current prices reflecting he not coming back. If he does return guarantee last home game will be sell out. A big thank you and send off by fans.
This is the fourth time Drury has led the team in Actual Runs Produced. Drury is the kind of player who tips a solid team into a championship-level team. He raises the floor on a solid team so high that it is hard to lose games. It’s sad that he has to spend one more year with the Angels.
Here’s the updated Actual Runs Allowed per Batters Faced for our Halo hurlers:
I think Heefo can make it to 20 homers before the season ends.
Banned
Sigh…
Diaz with the start tonight. No lineup yet. I think, with Ohtani skipping the photo, he’s done forever for us.
I think regardless of whether or not people here want him to come back in the first place, that he will be going to a new team.
This collapse has been so embarrassing and low, that when he faces the opportunity to go to any team, he will see what a mess things were here and want to start afresh.
Bitterly disappointing season, and lamenting that it happened is certainly well and good… but please, let’s tap the breaks on this abused-lover, now-I’m-gone-for-good nonsense people keep spreading. The Angels are not a heroin addiction. They are not ruining your life. You are not quitting them. That’s all performative dog shit. You’ll be back next spring just like everyone else. And when the turn comes, it will be arguably sweeter.
And I wish people would stop acting like Rendon cheated their grandmother out of her home.
In your opinion, what did he do?
They truly believe Rendon conspired with (invisible force) to take the money and run while deliberately injuring himself repeatedly after knob-slobbing one another over OMG WE BEAT THE DODGERS!!.
I’m not sure why you’re surprised, Vernon Wells got the very same treatment (after not demanding a trade and being traded here).
Look at the man who is the VERY definition of lazy on this site. Notice a common thread?
Through the 2023 season, Mr. Rendon has been paid $114m
What exactly has he contributed to the Angels during that timeframe that is commensurate with his remuneration?
*brakes
😂
Going into today we were tied for eight worst record, I hope we can show some tenacity and get it down to top 3.
I know you’re semi joking, but top 3 isn’t really possible. Mathematically it is, but nearly impossible
Top 3 possibilities lie with the ping pong balls
the “best” we can get to is 5th. That would give us a 10% chance for getting the 1st pick, up from our current 5.5%
https://www.tankathon.com/mlb
Why Win? We can’t make the playoffs- trAdition. If we did make the playoffs (A huge IF) we won’t beat anyone, even one game, because no Shohei. So, embrace the the high dive to the bottom, next year’s improvement will look better, and a better draft choice could make a difference. Our needs are simple, more pitching, a CF’er (“Cuz we will have traded Trouty to Philly), a Third Baseman, can you draft a new owner? Ok, dumb question (going for the laugh, but not funny.) The only thing we can do as fans is find a watering hole with Draft Beer 🍺 At the Big A it’s only 12 bucks, no wonder we can afford to pay 40-million-dollar contracts.
Ask Rendon what do you call our current streak? El Folddough.
Trout’s Angels career – blessed fish tank.
which sounds worse? 8-25 in our most recent stretch, or we’ve lost 25 of our last 33 games.
I’m just having fun here because what else is there to do? Those 33 games represent about 20% of the entire season. Playing at that level over 162 games would give us a 39-123 record. Yikes!
Oakland would still get first draft pick, we’d even screw up a 39 win season. 😂
Does this shirt make me look fat?
Lost 25 out of 33 games burns my eyes…that is worse.
Are you ready for some football?!
So, you’ve heard of reverse phycology, right. So here is how it applies the rest of the season – root for the team to “not win” and they will just do the opposite and “win”. 🤓
Looks like Davis Daniel will be taking the mound tonight for the Halos.
My reaction to this and our recent lineups is “sure, why not?”
My first reaction was “who?????”
I think Jeff interviewed him awhile back.
Are you sure it’s not Daniel Davis?
Miles Davis…..as in the “airline’s miles” that some dude named Davis will earn flying back and forth between SL and John Wayne 7 times next year.
Confirmed by Fox Sports.
https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/los-angeles-angels-team
Well, a sweep of Cleveland would end their playoff dreams.
But, a sweep by Cleveland would make the Twins sweat and would make the Angels v Twins series later this month very interesting.
Either way, as long as the next series is a sweep, I’m fine.
I could see this team having a 13 game losing streak, getting swept by the Guardians and the Mariners. That is what happens when more than half of the team belongs in the minors. Hopefully, Arte does decide that hes tired of being the laughing stock of owners and sells the team.
Also, it is good seeing Rendon’s unprofessionalism being recognized by the national media. Act like the pro thats getting paid $35 mil and not acting like Tony D’bags
If we have any last gasp of life…..save it for the M’s. I’d lose every remaining game just to take 2 of 3 from them.
Free Rengifo
Free Barria
Free Phillips the hat monger
Free us from the Doom Loup
Free us from this hell.
This team hasnt had a pulse since July.
The Foundation Building Materials’ keystone of the game tonight for the Angels against the Whomever-It-Is-They’re-Playings is “Last of Our Kind” by The Darkness.
There weren’t very many fans at the Angel game last night. Interest is dwindling. Pineapple12 just threw in the towel. Jeff Joiner tried to rally what’s left of us with a ‘what to watch for now that the season is shit’ post the other day.
After decades of following the Angels, I actually mustered the fortitude to quit them last year. Baseball is stupid. The last decade of the Angels even more so. The franchise has just turned into a corporation where all of its employees work to put on whatever spectacle they can manage in order to get some money for themselves and to increase the wealth of its billionaire owner.
But because I suffered some lasting trauma in my junior high days and I was able to distract myself with baseball, this professional sport has been able to wrap me in psychological chains that I can’t really break free from.
Go Angels.
https://youtu.be/4Hi_kzzSXhY?si=H9h8C4iDin0opEKX
Hello darkness my old friend….
https://youtu.be/4fWyzwo1xg0?si=nQndd3e0mVOh-VnI
https://youtu.be/0ojczn6rfvY?si=VxBE2YoHzL4A4G3L
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWdQbxNEFEs&pp=ygUec2Vhc29ucyBpbiB0aGUgc3VuIHRlcnJ5IGphY2tz
FOOTBALL IS BACK
So long Angels baseball! I’ll be back in March
we still have a month of baseball. football is the devil!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e7vvUShwYY
Football? Meh…
Go Kings!
What a disappointment sandoval has been. Dude has the stuff, just not in his head. Same issue with skaggs
Too soon
Let’s hope it has a better ending.
Detmer said hello.
If he continues this pace for another few years then yup.
Nothing that a solid pitching coach can’t fix. One that doesn’t have a one size fits all approach. One that can implement a game plan to get hitters out. Someone who doesn’t make pitching harder with two outs. One that doesn’t love a certain pitch, and is capable of making individuals pitch to their strengths. Someone that understands a scouting report.
This is all assuming that Wise is the primary monster here. And not a PTP mandated pitching philosophy that has become an embarrassment.
Both might be a fault, but noting will ever change my opinion about the mouth breather Wise. I’ll assume PTP can adjust. 🤞🤞🤞
For what it’s worth, pitchers have repeatedly said Wise isn’t the problem. They alluded to the upper management forcing like what you said, is a “one-size-fits-all” approach, with too much focus on inducing Ks, pitch shapes, etc., and not too much on pitching to the situation (inducing a groundball double play instead of so many pitches needed to K a batter).
I still believe Sandy and Reid’s issues can be fixed. Both had good seasons not too long ago, so it’s disappointing to see them regress. But they’re young enough to be fixable.
I hear you, and agree they are very fixable, might have a differing opinion on how to fix it.
I don’t recall ever hearing a pitcher publicly call out their pitching coach, ever. They were asked and they answered, the professional thing to do. If it’s happened recently I’m sure Mr Chan will do the proper internet research to point out I’m wrong.
Besides, IMHO they might know any better, Stockholm syndrome comes to mind. I’m willing to side with PTP’s pitching philosophy 51/49% over his teacher. Wise is the guy in charge, he’s done nothing to keep his job, and shouldn’t even be here to be fired. Let me know if he gets a MLB job next year as a pitching coach.
I give him 5 Sad Donkeys.
No more mound visits.
Free Rosenberg!!
I’m basing it from here:
https://www.ocregister.com/2023/08/17/why-have-so-many-angels-pitchers-struggled-this-season/
Just another example of micromanaging from the top. This organization and its management are hopeless. Please, for the love of God, sell the team!
Obviously Perry might be the one to fire Wise only to get fired himself right after, I’m fine with both those things at this point.
But it’s best we find a guy that can teach this philosophy. Or the next one that comes along. I’m 100% sure Perry is guilty of all that was said. But I’ll say with certainty that it can’t get worse if Wise stays…..check that, it’s the Angels, it can.
…trAdition.
!NEWSFLASH!
Paparazzi confirm the following is Matt Wise at an organizational training session for pitchers teaching the proper technique for increasing spin, velocity and movement.
After their weighted balls work out, our opponents BBIP exit velocity, with 2 outs, increased by 2.9 MPH…Wise has improved arm angle and ability to repeat pitches. This is video of the Poop Sweeper.
https://youtu.be/cg2AezJo8aQ?si=aqPeAY87bYm2Awwv
Sandoval is totally better than Skaggs now.
Phillips and Paris each have 1 hit.
Which one ends the Season with more hits?
It ends as a tie 1-1
If they tie, they should have “Singles Derby”. They can bring the children into the infield instead of the outfield like in Home Run Derby.
I’ve listed Phillips as a slight favorite.
Singles derby? All them bachelors will clog the field with lonely testoserone!
How about 1-0?
Somehow Paris loses a hit.
This photo reminds me of the most satisfying bowel movement I ever had.
Whenever I travel, I always have shy bowels, and on one particular trip, I hadn’t had a movement in 15 days. About ten days in without taking a dump, I got a little worried and bought some laxatives at a pharmacy on one of the Dalmatian Islands, but they produced zero results.
Then when my wife and I were in the Plitvice Lakes National Park in Croatia, I finally felt a presence in my colon. I located a bathroom at the park and went inside. What I found was amusingly shocking — there were no toilets, just a couple holes in the ground outlaid with a flat metal plate for you to put your feet on while you squatted down like Sandoval there.
So I assumed the position, and the results were glorious.
Thank you, official Angels photographer, for including this shot in your gallery. It brought back a nice memory.
TMI
Nice baseball story, eh?
He was on the plane to Barcelona
Better than a flight to BARF-elona!
Croatia is a great country. We did Zagreb, Split & Dubrovnik (with numerous small stops along the way) over a 8-9 day period in late 2019.
Our dollar was strong everywhere apart from Dubrovnik – which is Euro Zone – due to tourism.
Any G.O.T. fans must visit Croatia for that reason alone.
Your wife getting tired of hearing that story so much that you felt compelled to share it with us?
Thanks for that.
It was a shitty story
💩
Kenya style. Areas there are the same way.
Most of Asia too.
There’s actually been a few small studies that squatting while defecating ensures proper alignment of the rectum and reduces straining. Sitting for bowel movements is probably bad for our health (leads to diverticulosis, which in turn can lead to diverticular disease, which is associated with a higher risk of prostate cancer), we just haven’t proven it yet.
They’ve actually already started making (or rather, marketing step stools for toddlers as adult) products for it: Amazon.com: Step and Go Toilet Stool 7″ – Bathroom Squat Stool : Home & Kitchen
A week in Malaysia was like doing power squats at the gym. The quads start shaking after a few runs to the terlit
Brought a tear to my eyes!
Congrats to the Angels for being the best at something. The Angels currently have the lowest “last 10 games” record in the MLB: 1-9.
Way to tank!
How did they win 1?
Ours is not to wonder why,
ours is just to do and die
Can’t go chasing wins every night.
I don’t remember a win.
Better double check those stats.
They meant Wind. We had one Santa Ana WIND during that stretch
It seems like Moustakas would make a good coach after his playing days are over.
I felt the same way about Voldy. And he was, but he did it for KC instead of us (to be fair, that made sense).
Rengifo’s last 42 games .342/.393/.603 with 21 xtra base hits 🤯
Dude couldn’t of done that in the beginning of the season when they needed it?
That would have been too nice for us
Hey – you get the premise of all the Renhate, I see
As stated tix are dirt cheap. Thinking on getting some for Fri game. Would be awesome if Ohtani came back that day, the tickets would jump 3x in value. Current prices reflecting he not coming back. If he does return guarantee last home game will be sell out. A big thank you and send off by fans.
I don’t really get this… Tickets have been cheap. I haven’t really paid over $7 for a ticket all season.
Club level or the mvp seats, can get pricey especially if like me you need 4. Or going to the Ohtani bobble head nights.
i see… regular weekday games with no promo are like $3 right now – cheapest seat. Then you can play “dodge the usher” game and sit wherever you want.
He means good tickets
I’ll make sure to raise my pinky finger as I sip my box wine from F107 after having paid $3 to enter.
Yep. I figured it out a couple months ago — buy the cheapest ticket and move my ass over to Section 520 in the shade right behind home.
My problem is that I literally CAN NOT sit in the 500s (400s are pretty bad too) due to acrophobia.
I don’t go to the stadium because of Atychiphobia…..that is an extreme fear of failure. My therapist told me it’s a “no go zone”.
I have L-Phobia.
Fear of a loss.
(Not to make fun of you, I myself am actually claustrophobic)
Quit trying to climb on the light towers Red! Duh!
😲
There you go. And sushi as well!
and a few Whores Devores! or whatever them Frenchies call that stuff!! It’s a PARTAY!!!!
The Angels scored 10 runs in their three-game set with the Orioles. Here is the list of how many runs each Angel Actually Produced:
3.00 Drury
2.00 Rengifo
1.25 Moniak
1.00 Grichuck
0.75 Escobar
0.75 Moustakas
0.50 Schanuel
0.25 Stefanic
0.25 Cabbage
0.25 Phillips
This is the fourth time Drury has led the team in Actual Runs Produced. Drury is the kind of player who tips a solid team into a championship-level team. He raises the floor on a solid team so high that it is hard to lose games. It’s sad that he has to spend one more year with the Angels.
Here’s the updated Actual Runs Allowed per Batters Faced for our Halo hurlers:
0.09 Bachman (77)
0.10 Silseth (205)
0.10 Joyce (21)
0.11 Canning (437)
0.11 Estevez (249)
0.12 Sandoval (591)
0.12 Detmers (570)
0.12 Soriano (155)
0.12 Rosenberg (63)
0.13 Anderson (575)
0.13 Marte (4)
0.14 Loup (204)
0.16 Devenski (140)
0.16 Wantz (104)
0.16 Escobar (11)
0.17 Barria (349)
0.18 Herget (86)
0.18 Reyes (49)
0.18 Mederos (17)
0.19 Suarez (123)
0.19 Ingram (17)
The more rope the Angels give Barria, the more he hangs himself.