LA Angels Thursday News Crash:

Brandon Drury and Logan O’Hoppe are hitting off a tee. Drury, in particular, could be back at any time. It looks like Phil Nevin is the poster child for Managers likely to lose their job pretty soon.

Here is a twelve year old girl who can throw 68 MPH. Stella Weaver can throw almost as fast as Jered Weaver.

On Tuesday, in the Diamondbacks win over the Braves, Corbin Carroll reached third base safely on a strikeout. There’s a video in the link if you scroll down a little bit.

Brand new Dodger Jake Marisnik is getting an MRI and will likely go on the injured list. Also in that link, the Braves extended Travis d’Arnaud. T.J. McFarland cleared outright waivers and elected free agency. Baltimore acquired Shintaro Fujinami from Oakland. They designated Josh Lester for assignment to make room. Meanwhile, the As claimed reliever Tayler Scott off waivers from the Red Sox. Brandon Crawford just went on the IL with knee inflammation. The Diamondbacks placed Zach Davies on the injured list with a back injury.

The number 8 prospect in all of baseball, Andrew Painter, is set to have Tommy John surgery. Dallas Keuchel can opt out of his Twins deal on Friday if he doesn’t get a roster spot. The Mariners promoted Prelander Berroa and Devin Sweet. (Prelander- the Sweetening. “There can be only two!”)

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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MarineLayer
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2 months ago

Ryan Tepera: The Cardinals designated Tepera for assignment Thursday, Lynn Worthy of the St. Louis
Post-Dispatch reports. (Just three days after signing a one-year deal with the Cardinals, Tepera will now be cast off the 40-man roster and sent through waivers. Tepera allowed two runs across two innings with the Cardinals, and he holds a 7.59 ERA and 2.06 WHIP on the season.)

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I loved that they signed him, then released him days later.

max
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max
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

 😁  😁 

GrandpaBaseball
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I thought at first it was Minasian, halfway thru started laughing my a*s off, funny stuff.

Claret
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

The problem with satire is that it loses a bit of its punch when it’s too close to the truth.

tanana40
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

It really is not that satirical, is it?

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

The comedy that just writes itself.

rosstrade
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Love this because it’s sooooo true….

Jimmuscomp
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

This. Was. Amazing.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I love the Onion.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Especially grilled

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Perry looks like he’s hitting the bourbon pretty aggressively in that photo.

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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2 months ago

Ol friend Mike Ford has turned into a nice power bat for the M’s. He just went upper deck to pretty much seal the win for them

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Kiyotchan
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2 months ago

Mariners are also another team who may be on the climbing up trajectory. If they do well against Blue Jays, Twins, and Diamondbacks, they will be back on playoff hunt. Of course, we need Rays, MFYankees, Red Sux, and Blue Jays to continue to slump and either of Guardian or Twins to falter, but it may not be out of question to have 3 WC teams from AL West, come September.

Last edited 2 months ago by Kiyotchan
smithy610
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2 months ago

This is a nice tweet from Father Neto after the tough loss on Sunday:

https://twitter.com/TeamMiamiGM/status/1680973707714387969

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Wow maybe we can get him together with Shohei’s Mom and they can manage team.

They Cant do worse than Phillip can they?

smithy610
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Both of them can also prob do better than Matt Wise (who wouldn’t?)

“Just throw the ball in the strike zone, goddamit!”

AnAngelsFan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Shohei brought back two-way players, maybe he can bring back player-managers, too.

Kiyotchan
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2 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

This is because Neto was not able to get on base before Sho’s homerun. If he were on base, that game would have been tied. So, his body language above displayed his tremendous remorse and frustration. I also recall from Japanese YouTube clip that showed before the start of the 9th inning, Neto and Benji Gil conversing and the author of the clip inserting the caption that Gil telling Neto to get on base no matter what. He struck out. The clip furthermore showed Neto kicking something in the dugout and Gil punching the handrail in front of him when they saw Sho’s homerun.

How could we not fall in love with Neto’s obviously intense desire to win? I believe that his superior defense has been a huge upgrade for this team. But, even more than that, his presence ever since his debut has resulted in positive vibes for the Angels.

I will continue to update the following statistics as appropriate. Again, huge credit to Cowboy 26, who posted W-L while he was on IL.

When Neto played, 34W-26L. (34/(34+26)x162=91.8 win pace)
When Neto was on IL, 7W-14L.

Last edited 2 months ago by Kiyotchan
Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan
  • Neto – Ohoppe – Moniak
  • Canning & Dietmers

5 Good young pieces that could / should convince Sho to say home.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago

The way Sandy and Silseth pitched this past week would also be good pieces to have.

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Both have the stuff no doubt. With Sandy its the mental game. If we can get him to work off of his fastball and attack the zone he can be great. Silseth secondary pitch command is key. Yesterday early on the Yanks missed a few up in the zone but once he got into a groove that thing was snapping off low and tight in the zone.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Dude, is that a positive take? Careful man, this positivity things is contagious.

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That makes 7 good young pieces.

I’ll be Brave and add Jo A. to that list. That’s 8.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I’d want to ad Jo, but can’t in good conscience until we seem him produce above replacement level for at least 300 AB’s.

Over the course of 500+ AB’s I think he is likely to hit at least 40 bombs, but the question is does he bat .180-.200 or .240-.260?

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

He could fit in that .250 range. Not sure about 40, can see 30. Find the right spot in the order for him, give him some protection, keep improving plate discipline and as a defender ….I’ll take that Jo!

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Yeah, 30-40 range with full-time AB’s seems very probable IMO. Adell is an imposing athlete.

I’m just very skeptical about the .250 vs. .190 thing…

tommyshalo
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2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

And when you’re in that .190 range one can easily fall below replacement level even with hitting 30-40HRs.
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/kyle-schwarber/16478/stats?position=OF

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

This is precisely the comp I had in mind. Thanks.

Kiyotchan
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2 months ago

This season, most definitely. And Sho and Sandoval seem to be really close. I don’t think he would like to be traded before deadline, although if he is, he will understand.

I don’t know where I read it, but someone mentioned that he would not make his mind for which team to join for new season until January 2024.

I think there is something to that. Japanese people like to wipe out everything that has occurred over the course of a year on Dec 31, which is designated “Big Clean Up Day” so they can start the new year fresh. So, the saga may continue until early January.

If Sho decides to stay in Anaheim (Jeff Fletcher has not changed his 30% yet as far as I know), those guys you listed above will have been the key reasons why he will have remained an Angel.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

It’s 35W 26L Mr Chan. By the way only other position players that have played for Angels this year and still have a winning record in games that they have played in (minimum 20 games) are Gio Urshela (36-26) Luis Rengifo (44-38) and Anthony Rendon (22-21)

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
Kiyotchan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Touche again. Silly me, I forgot to add that W from yesterday. Gotta go back to the basics. Got to triple check before publishing statistics. Thank you for keeping me on my toes.

When Neto played: 35W-26L (35/(35+26)x162=92.9 win pace)

I miss Urshela terribly.

Last edited 2 months ago by Kiyotchan
GrandpaBaseball
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

We really miss Gio. What it does say is the opening day lineup was a winner. Probably same type of results with O’Hoppe and maybe Trout. Finding very good replacement players can for the most part come from the minors, not garbage heap.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago

Indeed we do, but getting Drury back fills most of the void left by Gio.

red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Hopefully the Muffin Man will come back full strength.

Fregosiwasmyhero
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Just don’t kick the water cooler! 😂 

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

I love the dad. Up there with Mike Trout’s mom.

2GA2Join
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2 months ago

Hey, Tepera is available!

2GA2Join
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2 months ago

Thanks for making me laugh at work.

red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

So is Granderson. I think I’d rather sign him.

2GA2Join
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2 months ago

As an aside to all the fervor of discussing the trade deadline…
What are the actual facts regarding the likelihood of a team that isn’t that good at the break suddenly winning it all?
Whenever there is a long thread about how we are likely out of it, someone will throw out a mention of the Braves going from .500, making a few key trades, and winning it all, as evidence that it is physically possible.
But how often has that been true? Are the playoff teams (or at least teams that go deep into the playoffs) normally the teams that kick butt the whole season?

I know this is all about research, but hey, look at my username, I’m not going to do it (I’m at work, too).

Pineapple12
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Literally … last season’s Phillies lol

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Maybe I was thinking of the Phillies, not the Braves…

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Shohei + Last gasp Trout + 2021 Phillies has essentially been my “go for it if we’re in it” mantra since preseason.

Life is short, this league is beatable and we have the greatest player of all time in his prime = we are COMPELLED to go all in.

Arty might be indicted by history for failing to trade Shohei, but frankly he should be indicted more severely for failing to build a winning team around prime Trout and now prime Ohtani.

GO. FOR. IT. NOW.

Last edited 2 months ago by BannedInLA
2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Also, that isn’t really a “how often” answer. That is saying “well it just happened last year, so that is proof”…

Pineapple12
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Seattle was 34-41 last season and ended up winning their first playoff series against the higher seeded Blue Jays.

Phillies were 50-47 and ended up in the World Series.

There are 2 easy examples from *last* season.

Also FYI, there is no longer a 1 game WC playoff, it’s a best of 3 series.

Speaking strictly for myself, I want to make the playoffs with this team and that goal is still attainable.

The best-of-3 WC series means anything can happen, proven as recently as last year (ie Phillies, Padres, Mariners)

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Cool, I hadn’t realized that the 1 game playoff went away.

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I respect the examples you gave.
I guess my point partly was that when discussing what we should do, some people just say “the Phillies did it last year, so HAH! that’s what we should do”, and I’m saying that isn’t enough info.

I’ll just make up fake data: if over the past 30 years, teams that are about .500 make a serious push in the playoffs like 1% of the time, then we should be paying attention to that. I’m just bringing it up as a thought.

I’m firmly in the camp right now of trading everyone away. But I’m willing to see more data that might convince me otherwise.

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

… eeking into a 1 game Wildcard Playoff game and getting the tar beat out of you isn’t what I consider a successful playoff season.

If we keep Ohtani, and trade away what remains of our pitiful farm system, so that we can barely grab the final WC spot and then get the crap beaten out of us in our 1 game, I’m going to consider that a huge screwup.

Pineapple12
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Its the year 2023, and MLB now plays a best-of-3 WC series.

Welcome out of your coma 🙏🙏

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Forgive me if I haven’t exactly been paying attention to the playoffs right after the season ends lately.
There hasn’t really been much for me to watch for the past 8 years.

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

So… as recently as 2021, there was a 1 game playoff.
So indeed last year it was not a 1 game playoff.

Yep, I was pretty frustrated with baseball as an Angels fan last year, and didn’t pay any attention to it.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Also we now have 3 wild cards where we used to have none, then 1, then 2 so we don’t have comparable data to work with.

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

How it always should have been. 1 gamer was so dumb. Season is too long for that ish

2GA2Join
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2 months ago

Yep, pretty brutal.

Assuming we got into a 3-game WC… is that better or worse for us?

We could have Ohtani start a game, but we’d need one of our other starters to win another game. Yikes.

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I feel like between Reid and Griff we have a legit #2 option in there at any given time. It just depends on which dude is pitching better at that moment. But I like both of those guys being able to go out and give the squad a shot. They are both still young but I think both have #2 starter upside

AnAngelsFan
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Here’s an article about wild card teams that made it to the WS:

Wild Card teams to Make the World Series (mlb.com)

GrandpaBaseball
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2 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Good find-good read. I did not realize how well WC Teams do in getting to the World Series and yes that includes the Halos.

SC_Halo
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2 months ago
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2014 Royals were 48-48 after 96 games and made it to WS

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  SC_Halo

They shouldn’t have. Bleeding’ outfielder falls down, closes his eyes, makes the catch

red floyd
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2 months ago

I swear the Baseball gods were laughing their asses off after they arranged that.

That should have been a double for Howie.

Twebur
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2 months ago

Remember when? Debating what league was better, The AL or NL? My many Doyer friends and family would call the AL “The Junior Circuit.” Mock the DH and wax poetically about the deep, deep thinking fans “strategery” involving having the pitcher, hitting .153 in the lineup. I liked both, appreciated that they were different, but always liked the offense with a DH. I’m surprised that the universal DH has gone off completely without any debate, full acceptance. I’ve never really heard any complaints.

Because now my many Doyer fans still think they are getting Shohei at the deadline. I remind them how lucky the NL now has the DH. Then I immediately remind them they haven’t won a WS since 1988. Nobody counts the 2020 Spring Training Tournament as a real World Series Championship.

Eat it Doyers

Last edited 2 months ago by Twebur
GrandpaBaseball
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

The term Junior Circuit was coined back in 1900 to refer to the American League because the National League was first and was then referred to as the Senior League for being older. So family and friends were correct there.

I have a son and two brother in laws that are Gitty over the prospect of attaining Shohei and all agree that they would pay more to see him. What’s wrong with paying less to see him play? Now would it not be hilarious if Shohei ends up on the Dodgers and in 2024 the Dodgers make the World Series against the Mike Trout led Angels, Angels win in seven defeating Shohei in GM 7 1-0 on a Trouty HR. Ok, I’m done dreaming fantasy for now. 😃 

Cowboy26
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2 months ago

The American League will always be the Junior Circuit.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

National League will always be the Senior Circuit. Boy I sure am glad we clarified that up.  😂  I will always be a fan of the Junior Circuit though. I’m probably in the minority here, but I really like the All Star Game and beating the NL, new streak starts next year.

SC_Halo
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Because they knew they were wrong. Good call on “strategy”….like it took a genius to know not to pitch to this guy up because the pitcher was up next. Genius!

Angelz4ever
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2 months ago

Four days in a row w/o a loss? Oh Hell yeah!!

Go Halos!!

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

And Phillip cant try to screw up the game today.

Angelz4ever
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ain’t he still @ AAA?

j/k

smithy610
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2 months ago

Mickey gets a lot of love here from MLB Network. Here they break down his swing, his HRs, his pitch recognition/selection, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpVx_ek3CGY

I love the opening from DeRosa – “when we break camp we’re going to take the best 26 players…no you don’t. You factor in contracts, etc.”

Mickey might be PTP’s biggest coup yet.

I have no doubt if Mickey is a Sox or a Yankee, the news on the resurgence of a former #1 overall pick will be all over the news so much more.

Last edited 2 months ago by smithy610
Pineapple12
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2 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Tired: Mickey Moniak is due for negative regression any day now.

Wired: Mickey Moniak will stay en fuego and regress next season.

Inspired: Mickey Moniak is the best non-Shohei player in baseball. Suck it haters

Angelz4ever
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Kinda weird having a Halo batting .300 plus that isn’t named Trout or Ohtani.

smithy610
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2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

These aren’t cheap HRs either – against Eovaldi, Gonsolin, Luis Castillo, and Gallen.

And his HRs have either broken ties, given the team the lead, or brought the team significantly closer.

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Angelz4ever
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2 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

I continue to admit, I wrote him off after last year’s unimpressive tenure with the halos.

Glad I was wrong. He seems to be the real deal, he just needs to not act like “He’s arrived.”

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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2 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

I’ve been at war on Twitter basically saying the same thing Derosa closed this with. The fact that Mick is performing this well while being pretty bad at managing the strike zones bodes well for sustained performance and even some improvement. Imagine if he stops chasing so many balls out of the zone? Once he brings pitchers into the zone he makes elite consistent hard contact. He could be really special if and when he masters the zone and swinging at pitches in his green areas (which is vast). A special talent. #1 overall for reason.

FungoAle
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2 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Great post! Thank you for this.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
2 months ago

We might see Mark Canha 7 times as Mariner instead of 3 times as Met.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/mark-canha-drawing-trade-interest.html

Now that Jared Colonic is injured with left foot fracture, the trade is much more realistic.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/mariners-to-promote-cade-marlowe-for-mlb-debut.html

Mark Canha is the player who did not appreciate the brush off inside and high pitch from Sho.
https://youtu.be/XLbY-00rFLU

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

ha ha Kelenic! I love his “resurgence” this season at .250. This injury will save him from finishing at .220.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago

In his last 125 PA’s (31 games) he’s slashing .216/.296/.315 In that span he has made contact with 14 singles 9 doubles 1 triple and NO home runs but one water cooler.

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
Kiyotchan
Super Member
2 months ago

I just saw postgame show on Root Sports. Kelenic was crying uncontrollably, essentially admitting that the foot injury was self inflicted after he was frustrated that he was not able to come through at yesterday’s game. He was not specific as to how he hurt himself.

I am glad that Neto or Moniak had never conducted such foolish behaviors, and hopefully someone like Benji Gil would whisper into their ears to remind them that it is ok to show frustrations but they are still important members of this team.

Kiyotchan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I found out how he hurt himself. He kicked Gatorade cooler in the dugout after striking out in the 9th inning yesterday.
https://www.mlb.com/news/jarred-kelenic-fractures-left-foot-kicking-water-cooler

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Didn’t see the Kelenic talk down here… See the weeping on the Post up top from Twitter…..my eyes almost got wet.

Last edited 2 months ago by Twebur
red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I Canha believe it!

Kiyotchan
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2 months ago

This game between Arizona and Atlanta might be a preview of NLCS. Damn good game between two aces. There is another reason that you should watch this game, and I am not telling.

BTW, it is enjoyable to watch a game with no dog in the fight. Completely stress free.

Last edited 2 months ago by Kiyotchan
Twebur
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2 months ago
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No Hitter…….No Hitter…….No Hitter…….No Hitter…….No Hitter…….No Hitter…….Alert!

Kiyotchan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Wow, you have successfully jinxed it.  😆 

Last edited 2 months ago by Kiyotchan
Kiyotchan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Gallen is now cursing at Manfraud for enlarging the size of bases.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Totally different game turning into slugfest after 0-0 of near perfect five innings from both starters. Still a close game. Matt Olson is now only 3 down in terms of MLB Home Run crown.

Last edited 2 months ago by Kiyotchan
Twebur
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2 months ago

The Fog of War has been lifted. Seattle Mariners Team-Shop-Gate has been resolved. The “The Emerald Cshitty” is free of Blue Jay garb. Justin Trudeau and Jerry have signed a peace treaty ending hostilities between “Almost Canada” and “Americas Hat”.

Free the Great White North “Take off”.
Bob and Doug McKenzie make historical announcement from their Yurt in Moosejaw Saskatchewan early Thursday morning.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mariners-remove-blue-jays-gear-from-team-store-after-players-fans-complain-154916201.html

Fleckstein
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Ten bucks is ten bucks!

Brent
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2 months ago

The Angels and Yankees are off today… why was yesterday an afternoon game?

smithy610
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

To help out the Yankees, of course!

frosse
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

No doubt for East coast ratings. The Angels broadcast noted that the Yankees were not flying back to NY until today.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  frosse

No doubt? Gwen was on the broadcast the other night in case you didn’t get the ubiquitous memo

Kiyotchan
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I didn’t know Stephani was an OC girl. I always thought she was Harajuku girl.
https://youtu.be/SvW5v0YaxtY

Pineapple12
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2 months ago

Angels 49-48

3 vs PIT
3 @ DET
3 @ TOR

Blue Jays 53-43
1 vs SD
3 @ SEA
3 @ LAD
3 vs LAA

We are 4.5 GB of TOR and have quite the opportunity to make up ground in the next 11 days.

AL Playoff Picture:
East: BAL / TB
West: TEX
Central: MIN / CLE
WC1: BAL / TB
WC2: HOU
WC3: TOR / BOS / NYY / LAA / SEA / MIN / CLE

Last edited 2 months ago by Pineapple12
TrojanBoiler
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

So most likely, the Angels will go .500ish during the next two series while the Jays lose 75% of their games, allowing us to move within reach of the playoffs while simultaneously underperforming. TrAdition.

That being said –
BOS has NYM, ATL, and SFG coming up btw, so that helps.

IF the Angels can take 5 of 6 against PIT and DET, and win the Jays series, we could very realistically be right back in it.

TrojanBoiler
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2 months ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Fortunately the trade deadline is the following Monday. These next 10 days will give us a really good idea of where we stand.

If we can’t climb back into the wildcard (or close to it) by that Monday, we have no business being buyers.

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

You’ve got a lot of “IF’s “ there lol…

TrojanBoiler
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

We are at the “start to believe” phase of the Angels lifecycle again. Time for if statements!

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Wait. I thought you were done with them?

TrojanBoiler
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That was last week, different part of the cycle.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

If we go 4-2 against Pitt/Det, that series against Toronto is beyond HUGE, but let’s not put the cart before the horse.

Pineapple12
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

One game at a time brotha.

If I’m aware as a fan — you know the front office, coaches and players all know that business needs to be handled going into the TOR series.

👀👀

Kiyotchan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Not put the cart before the horse, not count your chickens before they hatch, one game at a time, focus on what is in front of you. Nevin has recorded all these phrases in 8 track cassette tape (Nevin previously requested Gwen Stephani to voice over) and distributed to each player encouraging them to listen to it before each night and wake up to it every morning. Neto has never seen 8 track tape before, and he will ask Benji Gil what he should do with it. 😙

Last edited 2 months ago by Kiyotchan
AnAngelsFan
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Honestly, 4-2 doesn’t feel like enough anymore. The Angels are 4.5 games back from a wild card. They need to close the gap with some sweeps against weaker teams. August is a tough month, so they really need 5-1, followed by 2-1 v the Jays.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Exactly what I said above. Needs to be 5-1 and 2-1 or better.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

How about 3 to make 2?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
2 months ago

12 days to go until trade deadline. There was perhaps one relevant trade occurred thus far in Aroldis Chapman. It’s been relatively quiet and boring. Even though this trade yesterday probably passed by most baseball fans with no or “ho hum” response, I will briefly comment on it.

Orioles acquired Shintaro Fujinami from the A’s.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/orioles-to-acquire-shintaro-fujinami.html

Fujinami concluded his A’s tenure with an 8.57 ERA through 49 1/3 innings. No other pitcher with 40+ frames has allowed more than eight earned runs per nine.

-Fujinami was tagged for a 14.26 ERA across seven starts. The A’s understandably kicked him mostly to relief work by late April.

-Since May 27 — an admittedly arbitrary endpoint — Fujinami owns a 3.32 ERA in 21 2/3 frames. He’s striking hitters out at a quality 25.6% clip against a modest 7% walk rate in that time.

The Orioles pitching coaches think that they can fix his problem with largely inconsistent command of the strike zone. I thought Angels should have considered Fujinami for bullpen piece, but then I remembered that Angels would not be able to cure his poor command woes. If this guy becomes consistent, he would be legit MLB level closer. Hope that he does not become one when we face the Orioles in September.

BTW, Fujinami and Ohtani are considered BFFs since they faced each other in the famous high school Koshien tournament. Even though Fujinami’s team won, Ohtani did hit a monster homerun off Fujinami in that game.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

The Mous got loose from Coors and Escobar escaped from New York and those weren’t relevant?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

True, strictly from Angels perspective. Especially now with uncertainty that surrounds Rendon and Walsh.

I guess I was looking at it from MLB wide/national response. Chapman trade caused significant tremor, which I though would be followed by Richter scale of at least 5 or 6 type of significant trades. I shall wait and see for the big Oh-Tsunami.  😃 

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I think as per usual, once one significant trade is made, the proverbial damn will break and the flurry will commence.

Brent
Super Member
2 months ago

Today would be a great day to announce Ohtani re-signing with the Angels.

Twebur
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Today would be a great day to hope he doesn’t get injured before the trade deadline.🙃

TrAdition. Angels.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 months ago

Things we know Department. We know that barring something such as injury, Shohei will be the AL MVP, even if traded to the NL. We know that Matt Thaiss is now a MLB level catcher. We know that Mickey Moniak can play skillfully at MLB level, including hitting lefties well enough for a fulltime job. We know that Neto is a spark plug foe this team. These things we know to be true for 2023.

Does anybody know what time it is? We know that it is time for Shohei to make up his mind to his fans of his intentions, to stay or go. It’s time for Drury to return, we really do miss him. It’s time Angels starting pitchers to step up or step back, 7 innings with no walks or bust.

What do you think?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
2 months ago

Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care?
If so, I can’t imagine why
Angels fans still got time enough to cry.

If Ohtani wanted to stay with the Angels, the deal would be done. Does anyone really think the Platypus wouldn’t have already made a run at signing him? Ohtani has agents, they could do his bidding while he focuses on baseball. I can say this with nearly perfect certainty: Ohtani can in fact walk and crew gum at the same time. If Rendon tried to do that, he’d be in traction for at least 6 months.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
2 months ago

I had to explore crew gum on internet. This is what internet responded with.  😆 

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Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

hahah My 8U team goes nuts for this.

tanana40
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

My mother (or Santa) put this in my Christmas sock for years (and I mean until I was in my 40s at least).

Twebur
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

Loved that stuff. Flavor would be gone in minutes… nothing that adding a little Kool-Aid mix didn’t fix.

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Any good agent would tell him to test the open market. Especially in his case where he is a damm unicorn, who knows what someone might offer. Him not signing with the Angels is not indicative of any intent but rather what he should be doing. The Angels aren’t going anywhere. Even Arte wont pull a deal off the table for Sho. Ultimately if he wants to be here he will. If not he won’t. We’ll just all have to see when the time comes. I think its pretty clear he hasn’t told the Angels no, otherwise he would have definitely been traded.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
2 months ago

Of course the agent would say that! They get paid by commission, so sparking a bidding war feeds the greed. However the agent works for Ohtani – not vice versa. He’s not committed to staying with the Angels, which of course is his right. This could be over today if Ohtani wanted it.

Simba
Trusted Member
2 months ago

“Does anybody know what time it is? ”

25 or 6 to 4

Kiyotchan
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Simba

Chicago was one of the most popular bands when I was in high school in Hawaii. I paid $5 out of my monthly stipend of $20 to their concert at HIC (famous for Elvis’ concert). They were totally on vacation mode and played only 45 minutes and left the stage with no encore. Many Hawaiian including me have loathed them since that date.
https://youtu.be/9FzCWLOHUes

Last edited 2 months ago by Kiyotchan
JackFrost
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Ha ha. I am not a fan either. Can you say “overrated”??

Twebur
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Simba

Speaking of Time….I’m wondering if we corrected the glitch after the All-Star break where the offense struggles for “Some Time” after an off-day?

Time after Time
Time is on my Side
Too Much Time on my Hands
Big Time

Time in a Bottle

I’ve Had The Time of my Life

The Times They are a Changin’
Feels like the first time
Old Time Rock n Roll
Times Like These
Remember the TIme

All This Time

Haven’t Got Time for the Pain
Let the Good Times Roll”

Kiyotchan
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

That made me look up. We are 3W-7L after off day including ASG break.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

You forgot the best one of all… and the title is the simplest ,

“Time” by Pink Floyd

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Well if its the best then post it Frostie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwYX52BP2Sk

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur
GhostGuest
Trusted Member
2 months ago

The Angels scored 16 runs in this three game sweep against the Bombers. How many runs did our individual Angels actually produce?

(If you are new to this: if Neto draws a walk, Ward grounds out but moves Neto to second, and then Moniak singles to drive in Neto, Neto actually produced 0.25 runs, Ward actually produced 0.25 runs, and Moniak actually produced 0.50 runs.)

4.25 Ohtani
3.00 Moniak
2.75 Ward
1.75 Rengifo
1.00 Thaiss
1.00 Stefanic
0.75 Neto
0.50 Ghost Runner
0.50 Escobar
0.25 Wallach
0.25 Renfroe

This is the eleventh time Ohtani has led the team in ARP. Renfroe has been at or near the bottom of these totem poles for some time now. Come on, Renfroe, you have to do more damage than a ghost runner who played just one inning in one game.

And here is the updated list of the Actual Runs Allowed per Batters Faced (in parenthesis) for our Halo Hurlers.

(If you are new to this: if Sandoval walks a batter, is relieved by Webb who gives up a home run, then Sandoval allowed 0.25 actual runs and Webb allowed 1.75 actual runs.)

0.07 Estevez (159)
0.07 Moore (108)
0.09 Bachman (77)
0.09 Soriano (74)
0.10 Ohtani (432)
0.10 Sandoval (412)
0.10 Weiss (21)
0.10 Joyce (21)
0.11 Detmers (391)
0.11 Canning (335)
0.11 SIlseth (107)
0.12 Webb (112)
0.13 Anderson (393)
0.13 Barria (236)
0.15 Loup (127)
0.15 Wantz (96)
0.16 Davidson (148)
0.16 Devenski (140)
0.18 Herget (71)
0.19 Suarez (123)
0.20 Reyes (20)
0.21 Mederos (14)
0.23 Ingram (14)

After a brief separation, Sandoval and Ohtani are back together with identical ARA/BFs again and a nearly identical number of batters faced. It was great to see Silseth take a big jump up this list with yesterday’s terrific outing and match Detmers and Canning’s ARA/BF.

ERA says that Barria (3.77) has been a lot better than Anderson (5.17) at preventing runs from scoring this season, but that is not true. Using Actual Runs Allowed per Batters Faced, we see that they have been equally effective at preventing the runs that have scored in the games they have pitched in this year.

tommyshalo
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  GhostGuest

Is the ARP for the season coming soon?
I’m curious how it looks like.

Twebur
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

Albert Pujols is gone…..no more AARP.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Melvin would be a nice option if nevin doesn’t return.

Last edited 2 months ago by YOUknowulovetheIE
DowningDude
Legend
2 months ago

I’m sure many of us would like to give Arte a melvin

Twebur
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Atomic Wedgie for Arte.

https://youtu.be/QNJYA58s59M?t=93