Angels at Mariners Game 4 Gamethread

This has been an incredible season. GA passed away. Arte sold. And the kids are looking good.

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Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 minutes ago

is 100 the lowest number of losses for a team that lost 100 or more? That is, did all teams before us have a 101 loss season?

DowningDude
Legend
4 minutes ago

FUCK YOU ARTE

Texan44
Trusted Member
5 minutes ago

Stick a fork in 2026 season. It is not “done”, but is “burnt.”

DowningDude
Legend
9 minutes ago

THEYRE PLAYING BUTTERCUP!!!!!!

Angels2020Champs
Member
Legend
7 minutes ago
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MarineLayer
Legend
12 minutes ago

Siri should go to Seattle, and take his ridiculous celebrations and terrible defense with him.

FungoAle
Legend
14 minutes ago

Figures…The Dodgers locked up their 100th win on the day the Halos dropped their 100th loss.

Last edited 14 minutes ago by FungoAle
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 minutes ago

I’m out. I have to go run some errands and I want to watch the Rams. It’s been fun and I look forward to the playoffs.

Angels2020Champs
Member
Legend
17 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

🫡

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MarineLayer
Legend
11 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

See you next year. Go Rams.

And how about my Bruins. See what hiring a good coach can do.

Angels2020Champs
Member
Legend
20 minutes ago

Trout with the pinch hit grand slam in the top of the 9th to give us a 7-6 lead?!

You’re our only hope GOAT 🥺

Texan44
Trusted Member
26 minutes ago

I will say this. I will be shocked it if and when the next season starts, if 85-95% of the team and manager/coaches are still employed by the Angels.

Angels2020Champs
Member
Legend
18 minutes ago
Reply to  Texan44

Agreed. Same for everything, including the guy(s) in charge of rodent control to urinals

MH252525
Super Member
37 minutes ago

How do you throw 85 and still have no control?

MH252525
Super Member
41 minutes ago

I think Siri has worn out his welcome here too?

Texan44
Trusted Member
40 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

That would make him 0-4.

FungoAle
Legend
29 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

That dinger was for you MH!

MH252525
Super Member
44 minutes ago

I hope this is the last time we ever see Peralta in an Angels uniform. man he’s horrible.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
46 minutes ago

#LAST100LHOLDOUT

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
51 minutes ago

Is this the last time we’ll see Teodosio in a Halo uniform?

FungoAle
Legend
50 minutes ago

Likely a Bee uniform

DowningDude
Legend
23 minutes ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Likely a Burger World uniform.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
48 minutes ago

A lot of these guys are just organizational depth to fill out the AAA roster.

MH252525
Super Member
52 minutes ago

Josh Lowe has been given 54 PA against lhp and has a 428 OPS against them. Make that even lower now.

MH252525
Super Member
1 hour ago

I like Denzer Guzman probably more than I should based on results, but man I dislike Grissom way more than I probably should based on results. He comes across as an arrogant POS that think’s he’s actually a solid everyday baseball player when he’s barely hanging on to a roster spot. He has no defensive value anywhere and he’s never going to hit as much as is required of a DH.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
57 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

He’s a bench player on any decent team. He doesn’t run well, and as you said, is a defensive liability. He’s dead average as a hitter. So he’s not 30% below average which is why he looks good compared to some of our other players.

I think Guzman needs to play 3B every day if Neto is still here, and SS if he isn’t to see if he is a major league hitter. And that will likely have to happen in 2028. With the labor dispute, 2028 will likely have to be a year of evaluation for possibly Raudi, Monroe, Guzman, and possibly others. In the mean time we will be wasting great pitching, which is why we should trade both Neto and Detmers. It will be 29 or 30 before we see something significantly different than what we see now.

Last edited 56 minutes ago by Roy Hobbs
MH252525
Super Member
54 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

winning teams think in terms of postseasons not whole seasons. We can try next year, see how things go with some FA additions and addition through subtraction of honestly some of the worst players in baseball and then still get probably close to the same haul as we would have otherwise. Lots of owners would almost rather have players just for the postseason as they don’t have to pay their salary for the entire year.

MH252525
Super Member
1 hour ago

Yes lots of money to spend. Get one of the catchers (Stephenson/Jeffers), get Morejon, get Bauers. And honestly I just now thought about it and I think Arraez makes perfect sense for the Angels. Play him everyday against RHP with Nolan at 1B, play him everyday against LHP at 1B with Moore at 2B.

MH252525
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  MH252525

Luis has no platoon splits, Nolan and Moore are likely to have big ones.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  MH252525

My question is the same as last year. What is going to be different. Even with the best starting pitching for the last 2 months, it made no difference. Even with Meck hitting .300 and both Trout and Neto having solid seasons, what will change to drive us toward a different outcome. You can’t just run the same players out there. Obviously there are a lot of organizational changes that will have to take place first.

MH252525
Super Member
59 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I think we can look at things differently. From a purely run differential perspective the Angels are nearly as bad as their record indicates. That is with them having one of the worst defenses which can be improved and getting basically no offense from DH/Corner OF/2B/3B/ and Catcher. Replace O’Hoppe and Moises with Jeffers, that’s a big upgrade. Replace Frazier/Peraza with a Arraez/Moore platoon that could be a big upgrade. Replace everyday Nolan with him only facing Righties who he hits so much better that’s a big upgrade. Replace Lowe with Bauers that is a MASSIVE upgrade. Replace our worst reliever with Morejon that is a MASSIVE upgrade. Combined with the division next year probably still not being all that great. Angels have the potential for a very nice rotation, you have a good SP every night you are in every game. Angels this year lose because they have guys playing that should be selling insurance and their bullpen other than for a one month stretch has been abysmal, but bullpens are traditionally the easiest thing to fix.

MH252525
Super Member
56 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

plus you get players on short term deals you can flip them for prospects at the deadline. I don’t think Bauers/Arraez/Jeffers/Stephenson are going to make major bank. Morejon is but that guy has been one of the best relievers in baseball for awhile now.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
52 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

This is pretty much we have been doing for the last 15 years, so we’ll be in the 70s instead of the 60s. We’ll just have to wait and see.

MH252525
Super Member
44 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

when in the last 15 years did we have a rotation with prime Detmers, and Wally and actual SP depth. The Angels pythag record this year is like 72 wins, their baseruns win total is expected at 73. If you start with that as a base and get Jeffers/Morejon/Bauers/Arraez and keep in mind they are replacing complete trash, then I think it’s totally realistic to get their record into the 80’s.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
42 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

I’m not not going to go down this rat hole. We’ll watch it play out.

MH252525
Super Member
38 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

for sure.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
49 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Wait – you don’t believe KSE will spend millions like a virgin sailor on shore leave in Thailand?

Last edited 47 minutes ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
46 minutes ago

That’s funny, but no. At least not anytime soon. And, unfortunately, There isn’t really anything to spend the money on. The labor dispute kind of sets us back a year in evaluating players at the major leagues.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
44 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I think it’s possible that nothing significant happens player wise until 2028 or beyond.

Texan44
Trusted Member
38 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

If you don’t stop this, I am going to have to send Giuseppe and 3 friends to visit you.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
29 minutes ago
Reply to  Texan44

Apologize. I’m just trying to be realistic. It may be different.

Texan44
Trusted Member
28 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

OK. I am sorry. But we all have to have huge dreams.  😍 

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
22 minutes ago
Reply to  Texan44

I have no idea what is going to happen. I tend to be rather conservative about what I believe needs to happen or will happen. I have huge dreams as well and I don’t mean to squash the dreams of others. I believe in the long run that things will get much better. I just don’t want people to be disappointed if it takes longer than they anticipate. You can balance me out.

milehigh
Trusted Member
30 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I think this could very well be true. KSE isn’t in charge yet and new CBA will either be still negotated or in effect. If still in negotiation KSE will have to fall in line with all the other owners, most likely I think.

KSE has to figure out a FO and how/where to build a stadium and pay for it. I don’t think they will come in and spend $1b like Guggenheim.

FungoAle
Legend
43 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

*nothing to spend long term but a 1-3 year contract is totally on the table. I would think KSE will want to make a splash.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
35 minutes ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I don’t disagree. The team could improve substantially if you could get Trout out of CF and replace him with a plus defender who could provide some offense, get a 2B who is a plus defender with a little offense, Same at catcher, and maybe a RF with a little punch. That and rebuild the bullpen could get you into an 80s win total. How much do you think Arozarena will cost and will he settle for 3 years. We need 3-4 of those guys.

Angels2020Champs
Member
Legend
1 hour ago

Scherzer 3 Ks shy of passing verlander

Last edited 58 minutes ago by Angels2020Champs
BannedInLA
Legend
1 hour ago

The Meck ends the season at .300

MH252525
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

yes and Suzuki was literally looking for reasons not to play him this year up until after Adell got traded.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

That’s a win for you my friend.

MH252525
Super Member
1 hour ago

So even on the last day of the season, we either have guys missing signs or apparently the double steal while bunting with nobody out is a new smart play that Suzuki came up with

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  MH252525

Still making the same mistakes shows a complete lack of leadership.

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