LA Angels Thursday News Crash: HIP-PA

Anthony Rendon says it’s hip to be square. It’s not every day I link to the Times of India. Here is the write up from the Angels official site.

The Red Sox get Alex Bregman on a three year deal worth $120 Million. Nick Pivetta gets four years as a Padre for $55 Million. It’s a back loaded deal with opt outs. The Tigers signed John Brebbia to a relatively modest one year deal with a $2.75 Million guarantee. Tyler Alexander got a one year deal with the Brewers.

The Mets officially announced that they have signed Pete Alonso.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

oh darn. Thought i was first to post it.
This is freakin’ classic.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago

Not sure how good the likeness is but I would think this will be the winning Angel Bobblehead giveaway this year .

https://x.com/HalosInfield/status/1890101852378906810

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

i will wait in line for hours to get one. However, I tend to think that they’d be all broken in shipment from the China factory.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

Unless I’m looking at the regular season schedule wrong, really bummed there aren’t any April or May 1pm Wednesdays games. Those were some of my favorites last year. Getting the kids early from school, bringing in some Jersey Mike’s sandies, having the run of the park… all for $2 tix. Damn.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago

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Twebur
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1 month ago

He has GRIT….even if he didn’t lead the league in games caught

Ron Washington on O’Hoppe last season

“He caught more games than any catcher in baseball. He’s Superman if he wasn’t tired. But what I loved about him being tired, is he didn’t believe he was tired, and he showed up every day at the ballpark and went at it like he wasn’t tired.”

https://x.com/JackJanes_/status/1890103779221201172

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

The d’Arnaud signing is great because we don’t need to grind O’Hoppe into the ground while we are deep in a rebuild. Should get much more burn than Thaiss, i’d think.

This team needs an Iron Man leader though, and Logan looks primed to slide into the role. The very model of a modern major baseball player.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago

I guess we got another Anderson in camp.

https://x.com/Jared_Tims/status/1890071790455865563

steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yep, they signed him because he spells his name with an Au, and if you look at the Periodic Table of Elements…. Well.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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“MAKE ME FEEL LIKE YOU CARE!”

The official battle cry of real baseball menz

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

Why don’t he want us, man?

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

He’ll be back. He went for a pack of smokes 20 years ago.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

He found the smokes easily enough, it’s the search for eggs that will make him a modern day Odysseus. 😂

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Gold

Twebur
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1 month ago

Or maybe he got eaten by a whale?
https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1889925523167650021

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Mia

Do these jeans make me look fat? Why won’t Tony cry in front of me?

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago

Watching Wash preach to our top twenty IFs right now as they gather around him atop the pitching mound.
Mind body and soul.

Heaven.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Here are today’s pics from camp.

a few hours in camp each day seeing 100 players for free in a chill environment and perfect weather. there are about twenty fans here each day. So far, 10am sharp players hit Field 2.

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

so good!

RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Synchronicity I’d like to see for the next 20 years
https://flic.kr/p/2qLyBr8
https://flic.kr/p/2qLyBth
https://flic.kr/p/2qLzKFa

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Trying to see what ideas are out there for the Angels and Arenado (who had a down year, but was still plus 2.5 WAR) and saw this in the Trade Simulator – really like this idea Turk.

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FungoAle
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1 month ago

I like the thought of pulsing the Tigers after missing out on Bregman. Perry needs to get aggressive here.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Perry has already declared that Moncada will be the starting 3B

Marcotor
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1 month ago

Another Cardinal in the twilight. That’s worked well for us.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Follow up on Caraway. Decided to look up his defensive stats. They were worse than I thought. .780 fielding percentage. That doesn’t play. Maybe he can move to first or the outfield but he couldn’t handle the speed of the college game. No bueno.

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago

15 WAR Wash could fix him.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

LOL

steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Sam Blum’s take on the end of Rendon…..

When told the news that Anthony Rendon would need hip surgery — sidelining him for all of 2025 — Ron Washington gave his beleaguered third baseman a phone call. It wasn’t returned.

“Anthony’s dealing with some things,” the manager said of the 34-year-old, who is still set to make more than $38 million from the Angels this year. “And I know at some point he’ll get back to me.”

It’s fitting for a player whom the Angels have desperately tried, year after year, to make a face of their franchise. A player they’ve done everything to motivate, compliment, and in some ways, enable. And, as with the skipper’s phone call, more often than not they’ve received nothing in return.

Rendon is under contract for this year, and the next, the final two seasons of his seven-year, $245-million contract. But in one breath from Angels GM Perry Minasian, it felt like there was finally a finality to this tragic saga. One that’s spanned multiple years, and generated many missed games, off-field controversies and the headaches that accompanied them.

“I don’t put timeframes on it, but it’s going to be a while until he’s back,” Minasian said. “He just had some difficulty with his rehab over the last couple weeks. We had a couple different doctors take a look at it.”

Rendon is not expected to play in 2025, with recovery expected to take longer than six months. When the season ends, he will have played in just 29.5 percent of the possible 880 games during his tenure.

He will have hit just 22 home runs in six seasons. He will have been suspended twice, including once for grabbing and attempting to hit an A’s fan.
He will have routinely angered fans with his public comments, lamenting the length of the season, eschewing the sport itself as not a top priority, and evading accountability with his “no habla ingles today” quips.

He will have battled with his team on a public level — claiming his bone bruise in 2023 was, in fact, a fracture, when Angels doctors all disagreed.

Overall, he will have generated chaos and frustration in nearly every possible form. And while this injury effectively brings that chapter to a close, it also ends any lingering chance he’d make his massive deal a worthwhile investment.

“It was a blow,” Washington said of Rendon’s injury. “Because I’m a believer in Rendon. It was a big blow. We’re going to continue to move forward, that’s all you can do.”

For years, the Angels have tried to cater to Rendon. After the aforementioned incident in Oakland, he was in the lineup the next day, batting cleanup. Then-manager Phil Nevin called him a leader.

Minasian said after the 2022 season that he expected Rendon to win Comeback Player of the Year award in 2023. Before the 2024 season, the team hired Bo Porter, his friend and confidant, to be the first base coach. Coaches flew to Houston to meet with him.
In the media, Angels coaches and front office have consistently praised his work with younger players and his quality at-bats, even as he put up below-replacement level offensive numbers nearly every season.

This offseason, however, that started to change. Minasian made it clear that Rendon would need to earn his playing time, and possibly even a roster spot.

“When Anthony has played, he hasn’t been productive,” Minasian said on Sept. 30, the day after the 2024 season ended. “He’s going to have to come in and earn it. There are no handouts. We’re starting to create some depth. … The best players are going to play.”
To that end, the Angels signed Yoán Moncada to be their third baseman just last week. It’s a move the club intended to make regardless of Rendon’s health. There was no intention of relying on Rendon to be the everyday starting third baseman.

Rendon still prepared heartily for the 2025 season, with those close to him saying he was in a good place the first couple months of the offseason. It’s unclear how he felt about the team’s plans to move him out of the lineup.

And he might not be keen to speak on the topic at any point. He’s not expected to be in camp, and time will tell if he’s around the Angels at all this year.

The only real drama that remains is how this will all end. Will he retire, as he’s openly pondered time and again?

“I’ve been contemplating it the last 10 years,” he said when asked in 2023, and repeated in 2024.

As of now, he has no plans to retire, and is intent on at least attempting to fulfill the final year of his seven-year contract.

So if he doesn’t retire, will the Angels release him, eating the many millions he’s still owed?

“Obviously he’s under contract for another two years,” Minasian said. “We expect him to rehab and get himself ready to play when he can.”

If neither happens, there remains only one possibility. He plays. And this whole saga begins anew, one final time. But while there’s no true finality yet, Wednesday’s news still felt like this relationship had reached a point of no return.

An end would allow Rendon to leave the Angels, and possibly the sport. And allow the Angels to move on from an era that has brought debilitating negativity.

It’s unlikely that any finality will occur this season. There’s no incentive on either side to end the partnership right now, as the injury effectively pushes that question down the road for a full year.

But more than that, it would bring an end to a pairing that was seemingly never meant to be. One that started with promise and a belief in their new franchise cornerstone. But has evolved into something unrecognizable from its initial intent. To the point now where there might be no use in going back.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago

And…….

Water is Wet.

Man the next time Sam the Hat has a fresh new take will be the first time

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I actually liked the article, CB.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

It’s bleak, because it’s a bleak situation, and he lays it out well.

But it’s also obvious Sam the Hat doesn’t like Rendon. The way he puts the general idea that a guy who signed a massive contract keeps having big injuries, surgeries and rehabs and has just found out he has to do it again for another entire season…. and that he doesn’t seem all that happy about it all… is certainly styled in a very particular way.

If players start saying they hate the guy, or if I find out his rehab efforts include beer and boats, then I’ll decide I don’t like Rendon. Otherwise he’s just a bummer. But Sam’s ego and feelings are once again on full display, and while he seems to love showing the world his ass all the time it doesn’t mean I want to look at it or respect him for doing it.

Why is he getting paid? How is he different than MarineLayer on here? I’d rather pay MarineLayer, who I’ve actually seen quote stuff like statistics sometimes every now and again.

It’s just not that hard for me to ask myself “How would I feel and act if I were in this situation Rendon’s been in?”. Rendon’s pretty normal.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Not of this mitigates the fact that Rendon has simply acted like an asshole. Injuries aside.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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No. He hasn’t really acted like an asshole. He just hasn’t acted the way you wish he’d act. He’s acted the way most guys in his position would act…. which is distant, frustrated, embarrassed, pissed off, etc.

He’s just not phony enough to make me feel good clouds inside me when I think about him. I wish he would include me more in the most difficult death march of unhappiness he’s ever faced…..

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

“This just in! Incredibly frustrated guy who is looking at another six months of pain and then work, after already doing six months of pain and work that didn’t work, again, doesn’t immediately return a phone call and has been known to be unenthusiastic about talking to Sam Blum about his problems.

Also seems disinclined to give the all important fans an inside look at his thoughts and feelings so that they can comment on them and let him know what his thoughts and feelings should be. Baseball world rocked by the fact that this man has failed to seem enthusiastic about any of this and has even considered not doing it anymore! Stay tuned, we are still desperately searching for a player or coach who dislikes the guy.”

I honestly have no idea why a free agent would ever come here. It’s not just Arte. Players know owners are generally tools, and at least Arte will pay you. It’s that the place really is a giant bucket of piss. Who wants to climb in if they can get paid elsewhere?

I’m kidding, but I’m not. California is not the draw some of us think it is. Angels fans are entitled or a lazy or both without much of the enthusiasm East Coast and Central fans have when they are happy. The stadium is on a burial ground and injuries friggin hurt. I know it’s likely hard to grasp for a lot of real menz of baseball, but guys like Zack Cozart, Anthony Rendon, Albert Pujols and Brandon Drury are VERY WELL LIKED among baseball players and are not likely to encourage anyone to come here.

Sure, if the team looks fresh and young and happy again guys are gonna start coming here, but even if you traded Arte for “owner” there’s no way top guys are gonna take Angel bucks over the same money in about 12 other places. Crap owner or not we gotta change the atmosphere of the place. This is another reason I dig Neto and O’Hoppe… I think they’ll be good, but I also think they have the makings of leading a fun and grounded team.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Fletch – ST Day 1 Update – Neto status, Trout’s position, Stephenson update, notes on Suarez and the new facility, etc.

Glum – ST Day 1 Update – devotes column to dancing on Rendon’s grave and gets a few last punches in. nothing else

Fletch we get good notes.
Glum pokes the bear and will report Arte won’t talk to him and is mean.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

I think this is well written and an interesting epitaph on the Rendon saga.

I realize that the thing that has bothered me almost as much as Rendon and his badittude is the Organization’s statements such as Nevin calling him a “team leader” and Perry stating that Rendon would be “comeback-player-of-the-year”. I realize those are supposed to be motivational and optimistic statements – but they were just so far from reality that I found them cringe-worthy.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Really? you must really like his prose. Because unless you’ve been living under a rock the last 4 years this article is just another regurgitation of the same shit we’ve all been living through here at CtPG.

Why not actually do some real investigative journalism and analysis? He could even Focus on more salient issues and questions such as:

  • What possible insurance coverage and policy terms would the Angels have to recoup some of these costs. What are the typical deductibles?
  • Considering the uncertainty in many lines of the current insurance market, how will the abysmal failure of this contract possibly affect future possible contracts and the availibity and cost of future injury insurance policies?
  • Is there a possibility that the Angels could reach an injury settlement that allow Rendone to retire ( assuming he and the MLBPA would be open to it) and what would potential settlement would look like considering the history of other settlement deals like Prince Fielder, Strasburg or even A Rod.

Now that would be worth my valuable to time to read it. Not this worthless drivel.

Kevin
Member
1 month ago

Thanks for posting the article. It was worth reading. That said, it is a significant editorial by Blum that is unnecessary in various respects. Per the accounts, Rendon had trained to be back ready to go this season and was in a good frame of mind. He had a setback and saw team doctors. The result is a surgery and lengthy recovery. This is why signing guys to these huge long contracts doesn’t work. Rendon is only one of example. There are many others. Strassburg for the Nats. A total disaster. Mo Vaughn from years back. Pujols deal didn’t age well. Vernon Wells. We could keep going. Blaming the player all the time is convenient. Rendon wasn’t the healthiest player before he signed and his health only got worse. Don’t sign these deals. I hope Rendon recovers well. I don’t expect to see much of him in uniform for the Angels but hope he can play here or elsewhere again.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin

When he played he sucked. He’s been a sanctimonious dickhead his entire tenure here.

Rendone could have helped reshape the narrative by engaging with the media and fans. He chose not.

He is judged by his performance and actions. He can take his $245 million and kick rocks.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

You are what you do and he did what he did time and again. Complete asshat.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yep this is exactly how I feel. I think its the lack of media engagement that always bothered me the most, coupled with the incident in Oakland last year. I don’t have patience with people with bad attitudes in real life so why should I make an exception for a millionaire baseball player?

When Trout got injured again last year, he stood in front of reporters and emotionally talked through how disappointed he was.

When Rendon gets injured he just tells the media “no hablas ingles today” and pretends not to (or legitimately doesn’t) care.

FWIF, his comment about other things being more important than baseball never really bothered me because that is a normal, sane thought to have. But that comment stinks more on him because of all the other examples of him not appearing to care at all.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

FWIW* whoops

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin

Yeah m not buying the ‘ready to go’ and ‘trained hard’ BS. I think PR people work overtime to manipulate our perceptions. I’m not buying into it. Just the same as “team leader” or “ comeback player”.

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steelgolf
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1 month ago

I find it interesting that Washington reached out to him and left a message but Rendone still hasn’t responded or returned his call.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

They’re paying you how much and you can’t even return Wash’s phone call?

The guy is just an asshole regardless of his injury woes.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Yesterday I was writing a post to have people posting their opening day roster and starters and got interrupted. Before I could finish, Rendone injury was posted. Before seeing this, I was doing my research to post my predictions and one of the things I had was Rendone not on the roster. I had Anderson starting at short and Rengifo at third. What do y’all see now?

Cowboy26
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1 month ago

If Moncada the Hut ever passes his physical he’ll be starting at Third. If Rengifo starts on Opening Day my guess would be at second. The Chi Sox projected OD starter is left Hander Martin Perez so that bodes well for Rengifo

But I’m thinking you’re right about TA. Even though Neto got great news yesterday, TA will get every opportunity to rise from the ashes and make the opening day roster against his former team.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

100% he’ll be there if healthy, I just was playing with the injury odds in kind of a joke. Not joking about Anderson though- I expect a bounce back. I heard through the grapevine (which is as reliable as my local weather report) from someone that knows him well say he really struggled mentally with confidence after the J-Ram beat down. Like it really got to him. I like watching him play and am excited for him to get back on track. While it may seem he’s been around the league forever, he’s still only 31. I really like the upside of this move. When Neto comes back, he might be a great utility.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Rendickhead waits until Spring Training. What a douche.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Actually, Rendon failing fast solves a problem. A worse outcome would have been him in the lineup with a .600 OPS.

His hip injury should last through September 2026….we should never see him in an Angels uniform again.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

And the Angels are praying it will as I doubt they get any additional insurance coverage if they cut him after the doctors declare his surgically repaired hip is as good as new.

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago

What the Senator said…N E V E R !!!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Really, another injury to the hips/back…. I’m not sure the guy is gonna be able to try and play in 2026.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago

Bregman @ $40 mil per, now that’s just crazy money, might be back loaded just maybe.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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It’s just 3 years – so it’s not an albatross like Rendon’s deal.

I like the approach with FAs of fewer years at a bit higher AAV.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago

But I dont like opt outs. ( Apparently I have that in common with Arte) If the player Rendones (New verb) than you’re stuck with an albatross for 3 straight years. If he puts up a monster year and opts out you end up with only one year of value

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Yeah, this was smart by the Sawx. They are pushing to win. They want a veteran’s last couple really good years to help them. They pay a ton for those years. He gets bascially the same money he would have over four or five years, but can either stay in Boston or go play “close to his family” or what ever for far less money sooner. It works. They didn’t sign Trever Story II.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

Not backloaded as much as seriously deferred:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/02/red-sox-to-sign-alex-bregman.html.

So assuming it follows the 10 year deferment plan that the Doyers employ, I’m guessing over $100 million of the $160 million is put on layaway- assuming he doesn’t opt out.

I doubt that Sir Alex will be hanging with his west coast ponies in 2035 when the taxes come do.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 month ago

Rendon should have been rested more-hip s take a beating playing third. Good thing he waited so long to complain about the pain……jeez what a horrible signing.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

Yes he should have been rested starting in 2019 with the Angels not signing him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

From what I’m seeing on the interwebs it sounds like he was doing well till about 2 weeks ago, then got hurt, then they waited about a week to see if he felt better, then they had two doctors look at him, then they told him he needs surgery.

It’s not Roswell.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago

2 years/$54 mil for Alonso. That would have not been back-breaking. Also makes me wish Rendon had entered a free agent climate more similar to this one… maybe he’d be off the books by now.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

Alonso was never coming to Anaheim.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Fansince1971

Alonso should never have come to Anaheim.

Viva El Flash!

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Think of how much money Rendon has cost other players. He has zero integrity. He should be donating every dollar to charity if he did.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 month ago

It always brings Lyman Bostock for me. Signed for the then huge sum of 6yr/$2.3mm and donated his salary to a church in his hometown after he got off to rough start.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Fk me this is lame.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago

yes he helped create this “climate”

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

They put Detmers’ locker right next to Hendricks’ locker in the ST clubhouse — I’m fairly confident that was done on purpose.

However, I doubt Silent C is gonna make it easy on Detmers for that 5th and final spot in the rotation. That’ll be the camp battle I’m most interested in and will be following it closely.

Last edited 1 month ago by Pineapple12
steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Makes me nervous that Perry said Hendricks already has a spot in the rotation, before spring training has even started.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I mean, we knew that was the case when the signing was announced.

If he gets lit up like a Xmas tree, he’ll gone by June. Best case, he makes a positive impact on our young pitchers and we flip him at the deadline.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

He’s got a rotation spot already. Really, I’ll be surprised if he is here in July.

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

If he gets lit up like a Christmas tree then he needs to be gone by the middle of May, or merely moved to the pen, where he only needs to face 3 to 9 batters.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  steelgolf

He’s not getting paid a ton. If a situation develops where three kids are pitching well and he sucks he won’t be in the rotation very long at all.

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago

Thank you Rex…excellent work. Some of those kids look to be about 12 years old.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 month ago

When do the games start this Spring?

Twebur
Legend
1 month ago

22nd

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