LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Worst Angel Team Ever

26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

True.

Legend

26 days ago

I am stoked we brought Campero up and are giving him a look. I just like him… no super good reason. He just has zazzz. Wasted season, will need OF. Why not give him and Adams a long gander?

That being said, I’m glad they are NOT bringing Moore up and letting him learn pro ball for a while.

Was there anyone around here NOT aware the Angels are not very good.? On the other hand, we may need this news since we started acting like this org is the worst run team in baseball back in about 2006…. at least now we can walk the walk instead of just bitching the bitch.

I actually wish that the MLB wouldn’t retire numbers. Why? Cause a lot of players pick numbers BECAUSE of heroes. It would actually be cool if they found some way to make certain numbers “belong” to a great man of the game. Like let players were 24 or 21 if they want, but put the name ROBINSON/CLEMENTE under the number of any player wearing it…. so people are always making the connection that said player is honoring this guy. If they did this with enough players, or if too many players want #24 on a team, it could even become something to honor current players…. the team captains or Clemente Award nominees, etc are the guys allowed to wear the special numbers…..

Hey. MLB. Special jersey = sales. Just sayin.

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26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Another thought would be to retire MORE numbers so that players can get to three and four digit numbers on their uniforms.

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26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

We also need more players with names like He Hate Me and Starberry Wuhan

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

I would love to see how the Angels rank with respect to injuries compared to other teams. It has gone on year after year, so it appears that may be yet another institutional failure.

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26 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

HELL YEAH! Hey everybody look, it’s another huge failure to seethe over! Let’s do that Ju Ju that we do so well!

If anyone has a solution ready for this problem I have a list of 32 teams that will pay you millions for it. Just let me know and I’ll broker the deal.

Oh wait…. all we’ve got is another flavor of whining? hurray

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26 days ago

Today’s Lineups

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Eric_in_Portland

26 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

whoa…we’re loaded today! Lopez at #2 is gonna shock us with a tremendous day.

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

Every time I see that guy in our lineup it makes me want to throw up.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Nice hair though

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Yeah, it’s great. Maybe he can get a job as a male model.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

Yes, two foul tips…..

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Born_in_59

26 days ago

I hadn’t heard of Caleb Ketchup until this morning. Hit only slightly above .200 but that’s better than most of the team’s second basemen this year. Add in 60+ steals and passable defense and he might be a capable fill in at 2B until Moore is ready.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to Born_in_59

If Moore doesn’t break 2025 ST on the 25-man roster, he’ll be brought up later in the season. If he can continue to hit very well at AAA, there’s no reason to hold him back, except of course enough games for that extra year of control (Ala Kris Bryant).

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26 days ago

Reply to Born_in_59

I think Colonel Mustard has better offensive skills…..

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26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

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cookmeister

26 days ago

Reply to Born_in_59

Moore is already better than Ketchup.
Ketchup could maybe be a utility IF/pinch runner type, I don’t think that impacts Moore at all

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Born_in_59

26 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

Didn’t mean to imply Ketchup was better than Moore. Just thought he could fill in at second if Moore isn’t ready. A .207 BA isn’t anything to cheer about, but it’s better than Drury (.169), Paris (.118), Hiura (.148), and Lopez (.065) this year.

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cookmeister

26 days ago

Reply to Born_in_59

I get what you are saying… Ketchup also hit .200 in A ball, not the major leagues

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Besides lacking meaningful offensive output this season from: 1B, 2B, 3B, LF, CF and RF, and little or no power output from 1B or 3B, we gotta a pretty solid team, don’t you guys think?

SP, well I can’t even frame that facetiously.

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Jeff Joiner

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Taylor Ward is quietly sitting at 2.4 WAR and an OPS+ of 112. LF was alright. He’s just so freaking streaky.

I can see heading into 2025:
Ward slightly above average as usual
Second half Adell is the norm and about average
Neto is a stud
O’Hoppe is a stud
Trout primarily DH’s and rotates around the outfield a bit.

That leaves CF, 3B, 2B, 1B as under water and very little depth.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

IMHO, the decision on releasing Moniak stands on the ability of Adams to play better than him. I believe Adams has more options, but he is already hitting .250 which is a level that Moniak has to streak to attain, but never maintains.

Adell should be keep as you always give your teams #1 picks longer looks.

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Jeff Joiner

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Agreed. I think they both go to Tempe and one of them gets the last roster spot.

If Moniak is the odd guy out, passing him through waivers when a ton of other players are on waivers is a decent way to hold onto him if they want.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

We carried 5 OFs this year, so I think they both may be on the roster.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

You’re right about Ward. He’s either been really good or really bad and right now he’s on a hot streak. He’s been bad more than he’s been good but he’s been on fire this last streak. Problem is next year he’s 31 and we’re not likely to win in 25 or 26, and he is very likely to be traded so he can’t really be in our plans.

Adel has never been average as a hitter so who knows. He currently sits at an 89 OPS+ which is right in line with where he’s been the last 4 years. So I’m not counting on anyone but Neto, O’Hoppe, and Trout, although Ward and Rengifo will be productive additions as long as they’re here.

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cookmeister

26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

we need a better backup catcher. O’Hoppe needs more breaks. He could be a stud, but his OPS is below .700 now, which I believe is a result of playing far too much

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

Several catchers passed through the waiver wire who are better than Thaiss but Minasian did not pick them up.

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ihearhowie3.0

26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I’d exclusively DH Trout for at least a month to see if he can even just hit and run the bases without re-injuring the knee.

If thats good, then yeah lets rotate into a corner spot every now and then. But they shouldn’t take anything for granted anymore.

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to ihearhowie3.0

I’m a little fearful cause Trout the DH…. he kinda sucks.

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26 days ago

We’re not going to catch the A’s…dead last for us.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

Now, that’s the rotten whip cream on the top of this $hit sundae of a season.

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

LAST PLACE! Hell yeah! It had to happen sometime and it’s the crucible where true fans are made.

I don’t care what kind of candy ass “called to account, forced to address, gimme closure, feel mah pain” Arte fails to provide the sad sacks, but I will be pretty happy if he continues this rebuild that is not a rebuild. And no. We don’t HAVE TO trade Trout to rebuild. I think their secret squirrel goal is to have as many guys like Neto/Soriano/O’Hoppe solidified as possible and an improved farm by the time Rendon’s off the books and then start spending.

This season sucks. Next year probably will too. But eventually we’ll start the climb and it will be way more fun than bitching about being “unchampionish” or wasted unicorn meat for eight years.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

To rebuild is to infer you have a clear direction and/or knowing WTH you’re doing. Arte appears to be neither.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

So, is it pronounced:

Leblanc?
Leblan?
Lebland?

Halo radio and TV announcers and even Roger Lodge have been all over the place with this guy’s name.

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

“Le” is pronounced as “L ay”

“blanc” is pronounced as “s hit”

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Oh, okay like Suarez = WTH is he doing here?

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

I would substitute any pronunciation for the letters DFA.

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Who is…. you know…. gonna play the games? Cause we’re kinda low on…. you know…. baseball players.

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

The Plumber.

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

AP French classes?

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

да, сэр

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https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ANA/

26 days ago

1980 was not a full 162 game season…only 160.

Worst 162 game season is 1968…also 95 losses.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

Goal setting is key to sucess.

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26 days ago

Good story about Haden Seig.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

Nice to see the Halo org show real class and concern to support him and extend this young guy’s family needed support.

I even applaud the Dodgers for employing that former player (Who’ll never play again) that had a mental illness breakdown so he can retain medical coverage.

Shortly after I stopped playing, someone in the office had a cousin playing for a Rockies MiLB team, he died in a car accident and the BoSox sent a huge flower arrangement and condolences-They never had him in their org, they just scouted and spoke to him prior to the draft. That’s class, which is needed so much these days.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Wagaman? Where did this guy come from?

So far, so good. We’ll see.

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26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Been languishing in th minor leagues since 2017.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

Looks like he may be a keeper (Small sample size).

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Why? It took him 7 years to make it to the majors, there’s clearly a reason for that.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Late bloomer?

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Jeff Joiner

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Agreed but if he can play third base passably he’ll get a minimum of 104 games per year with Rendon on the roster.

I’ve already stated I’m snagging Yoan Moncada for the infield in my Perry piece. Between him and Rengifo we’d have two guys who can move around a bit without breaking the bank.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Oh Jeff, I think you missed it, more like 125 as I truly believe Rendoomed won’t make it out of ST w/o a prolonged IL stay to start the season. I predict a 60 day right out of the gate, then we all know the on-off status he’ll have from that point for the season. I think if Wagaman and/or Neefo (Or somebody) can man 3B consistently, Rendoomed will be released after the AS break.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

The problem is that none of this moves the rebuild forward in any way. We need to add pieces incrementally as opposed to a whole team all at once 3 years from now.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

During the offseason, the Halo brass has to focus on Rendones zero HRs. That is horrendously and combine that with a pathetic BA, the contract only looks that much worse, and he blocks someone from his playing time.

The problem is the Halos sadly think they are one or two pieces away from contending…..

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

The team does, indeed, need more POP!

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

With Rendon and Trout we have SNAP and CRACKLE already covered……

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

HEYYYYOOOOOO!

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

He’s that guy who comes up at the end of the year, has a few good games, and disappears the following year after the league adjusts. 2000 minor league at bats at mostly lower levels tells me everything I need to know.

Legend

26 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Thanks for ‘splaining. So he’s Stefanic’s brother?

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

I’d say a worse version of Stefanic.

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max

26 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Yo recuerdo Livan Soto en 2022

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

If I were Perry I would be looking for good young players at positions of need who are blocked in their current organizations by very good major league players and see if they need something I have like Ward, Rengifo, Canning, Anderson, or other position players that fill their needs, and I would be focusing on bats. We did next to nothing this year but wait which was ok. Unfortunately, nothing really good happened. Now we need to actively start improving the club even if it takes a few years to do it while continuing to provide the opportunity for the current players to emerge.

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angelslogic

26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

Politely disagree. We need pitching!

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FungoAle

26 days ago

Reply to angelslogic

Angels have quantity but the quality piece has yet to take hold. No ace or No.2 but looks to be like lots of 3-4-5 slot arms.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to FungoAle

Soriano being the exception, if he shows a little more durability.

Last edited 26 days ago by Angelz4ever

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Jeff Joiner

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Agreed. Soriano looked really good this season.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to angelslogic

Well, I suppose it’s all true. We’re close to the bottom in both runs scored and run prevention so we need everything. We have some prospect hope on the pitching side, we have zero prospect hope on the hitting side.

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to angelslogic

We need hitting AND pitching.

Legend

26 days ago

Nice win. Good outing from Canning.

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Born_in_59

26 days ago

I’d love to see Detmers and Canning have back-to-back wins once this season. Of course, I’d also like to win the lottery and that has a better chance happening.

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