Here is an anti-shopping list for the Angels. It concerns areas of need on contending teams. Do we have any solutions for these teams? Do they have any prospects for us that are worthwhile? The article itself completely ignores the Angels. People are definitely crossing Sandoval off their lists at this point. They should. He is having UCL surgery.
Who will be the next lucky contestant on “Pitching With The Scars?”
The American League All Star voting thus far does not hold much promise for the Angels position players. We will probably see Anderson get selected as the Angels lone representative just as predicted. The National League current tally is here. All the Giants players wore number 24 last night in honor of Willie Mays.
Mets Closer Edwin Diaz was ejected for sticky stuff. He says it was just dirt and rosin but Vic Carapazza did not agree. In other Mets news, they designated catcher Joe Hudson for assignment.
The Orioles designated Nick Maton for assignment in order to make roon for Heston Kjerstad. Reds outfielder TJ Friedl wound up on the injured list with a hamstring strain.
The Astros called up pitcher Jake Bloss from Double-A for Friday night’s game and he was on the injured list by the following day.
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
Detmers tonight, 2 innings so far, 5 earned, 2 HRs.
Sounds like he’s ready to return
Bottom 5 Worst Teams in MLB (as of today):
In order to get out of the Embarrassing Five, the Blue Jays are 3 games ahead of us. After that, it’s a wolfpack of mediocrity spread over both leagues. I don’t see us getting out of the bottom five unless Trout and/or Rendon come back.
Let the kids play.
If Rendon comes back, good chance we sink further.
Wow, this loser organization wanted to keep suarez after all. What a joke.
Guys, I’m getting the sense that this team’s not all that good and may not win the World Series.
How dare you jump to conclusions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDEL4Ty950Q
For many years to come!!
yeah realistically, i’m doubting we will even win the division, but with the return of Suarez and a couple additions of veterans at the deadline, there’s still chance.
if not, we will have to seetle for a wild card spot.
https://x.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1805723366332186720
So much for no more bullpen games.
Tonight’s Lineups
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/athletics-vs-angels/2024/06/25/746213/preview
So what do you know Miggy Sano? He’s back while The plumber got flushed to the Salty Lake.
Still no word on who will start on Wednesday or Friday but we know it wont be Silseth or Detmers. Im guessing Davis Daniel who last pitched in AAA on June 20th will pitch for the Angels tomorrow. That means one of our 10 bullpen pitchers ( Only Joyce, Zuniga, Crouse and Marie have options left) will need to get optioned after the game tonight
6 – 7 with a 2.48 era shows how pathetic this offense can be quite often.
I was right about Rendon and Ward so far, but missed on Detmers and Silseth. However, they both have a chance to recover and play out the rest of the season once Perry trades Anderson for players/picks that will not help the franchise.
I guess I missed on Sano as well, since I couldn’t have imagined a heating pad injury. However, since he in Angel, anything can happen.
Trading season warming up PTP…….Trade Anderson before he gets hurt, or regression sets in.
Didn’t know he was still baseball, but the M’s and Brewers see eye to eye on a trade.
https://x.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1805682623450333513
I wonder who’s still angry about us not signing Keuchel back in the day.
Remember that guys?
I do.
Stupid Billy. Cheap Arte.
looks like you were wrong on just about everything. “I guess I missed on Sano” is especially …well, funny. We all probably missed on some things. I wanted Jordan Montgomery, now with a 5.71 ERA, a -0.8 WAR.
I wanted Monty too…. fartz.
Hall?
I wanted Colin Montgomerie to sit on the bench and say rude things about the US Open
taylor ward is having an amazing MVP year.
My preseason pick of sandoval winning cy young doesn’t look promising does it? Lol
Joyce, Soriano, neto, ohoppe, and schanuel, the future looks bright my fellow halo honkers 🤘
I thought he’d be good this year too. 350+ innings of experience. Solid velocity changes. Good out pitch…. but nyet
He will have tj surgery, get released, come back and have a great year on a cheap deal for another team.
Angels: Adrian Placencia, 2B/SS (No. 12)
Given how aggressive the Angels are as an organization in terms of moving guys up levels, it’s a little surprising the 21-year-old Placencia is in Single-A, but pumping the breaks on him might have been just what was needed. He had been pushed to High-A and even Double-A in 2023 without much success (.664 OPS), so the Angels sent him back to Single-A Inland Empire. He has a .923 OPS there so far and has a .297/.415/.584 line over his last 30 days, so it might be time to see how he can handle a move back up to High-A Tri-City.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-prospects-who-could-be-promoted-2024
sounds like an ideal candidate to trade for veteran reinforcements for the 2024 Pennant drive
We have to keep Drury and his mom happy.
He failed at High A last year. They just moved him back to Tri City last week and So far hes 2 for 12 with 3 walks and 6 strikeouts.
I know hes only 21 but hes got a looong way to go to get to a point to even call him a prospect.
Are you implying in another 4 years we’ll have a replacement for Paris?
trAdition
Forget Paris.
we’ll always have paris
But especially in the springtime.
Interesting to note the anti wish list says the Phillies need a Center Fielder. They just traded us O’Hoppe for one.
Let’s send them Pillar for anything.
Let’s send them Trout for Stott, just get something
I’m kind of still in shock this morning about an Angels starting pitcher actually going 7 innings!!! INCONCEIVABLE!!!!
The gap between the Dodgers and Angels is the same gap between the Angels and A’s.
Made me think of: “Who’s Fabio?” He’s a shortstop for Seattle. LOL
I mean, in your mind, maybe. Standings-wise A’s/Angels very similar animals.
Canning looked SOOO bad in April.
I am actually encouraged right now that he can establish himself as a viable starter in MLB for the next 4-5 years… let’s hope he continues with this trend.
INCONCEIVABLE: one starter goes 7 innings
NATURAL ORDER: another starter is out till 2026 because of TJ
So, let’s assume Sandoval needs TJ. He’s a Free Agent in 2027. Do you non-tender him next year or do you try and extend him? I’ll start. I’d talk, but it would have to be a team friendly deal with options if they are right. Basically I’d non-tender him, because I don’t think he’d sign the type of deal I’d want.
I need to catch up. LOL
What are Arte and PTP waiting for Trout and Rendon’s value for trading to increase? Start being a salesman boys, change the course of this leaky tub. Didn’t holding on to what you with Ohtani teach you guys anything?
not only are they overpaid husks of their former selves… they both have full no trade clauses.
Stefanic – 1 for 15
Adell – 1 for 18
Schanuel – 0 for 14
Schanuel just came off a hot streak so I will cut him some slack.
Stefanic has only been up with the team for a little more than a week so, although he is flailing, he is allowed more time to marinate.
Adell, on the other hand, needs to be sent down. His pan has flashed. Slash line is .111/.174/.175 for the month of June. No bueno.
Schanuel is not the 1b answer, but there is no one else just yet.
That was fast. Another Minasian whiff?
No hes not because he’s probably our next Manager.
Per Fletch:
He hits like a manager.
Soccer manager.
Noodle Shop manager.
If there is a place for Joey Gallo in MLB (a career .195 hitter) then there should be a place for Jo Adell.
Sure, prime Gallo only hit .200 but he was doing it with 30+ bombs per year … He also did it with a decent amount of walks, averaging about .350 OBP.
Jo’s defense has improved significantly, and he has the potential to steal 20 + bases quite easily …. So, if he hits .205-.220 with 30 HR and 25 SB is that enough to keep him in the League ? I think it could be if he plays excellent defense. The all fields power is definitely there, so I think realistically he can average 30 HR per year. The game is moving in the direction of three true outcomes; BB, K or HR.
Of course, this would not be my preference for a career projection, but it may be feasible…
Adell playing in rf and more often definitely helped him improve his defense.
It’s going to be hard to steal 25 bases if you’re never on first. Not a lot of opportunities when you are either making an out our hitting for extra bases.
I disagree. Gallo is an aging veteran and Adell is an Angel 1st round pick. Those picks aren’t (And shouldn’t be) given up on lightly.
I’d give up maybe if he were blocking someone. But what? We should have signed an FA instead of playing him all season? Why? Is there a prospect he’s blocking? Nope. So I’m with you. Let him flail around and see if he can get it together. There’s no need to be impatient with it other than just “something is making me pissy”.
We’ve seen enough of Stefanic. Bring Sano back up.
It’s so hard to evaluate Schanuel right now. Inevitably, he will need to make changes to his swing because whatever he’s doing isn’t sustainable. He’s 22 and learning.
It’s about over for Jo. His swing is way too long and rarely gets his front foot down in time. I have no idea why he hasn’t adapted the reduced toe tap that Ohtani (and now Neto) does.
He had the more compact swing during his hot streak. Can’t the crack coaching staff fix it. The use of the word crack is intentional.
Adell has no options and cannot be sent down w/o clearing waivers. I doubt that he would.
Unlike Suarez, I also think Jo will easily be claimed on waivers. Maybe not as a starter but as a 4th OF, a pinch runner off the bench. Those types will be valuable for playoff teams.
And of course, the inevitable “so and so team” fixed Adell’s swing while the Angels couldn’t
Agreed. If Jo is on waivers he might simply change dugouts tonight and become an A. The White Sox will be down an OF or two soon, they might claim him first.
Most likely Jo doesn’t pan out but at this point we might as well keep the lottery ticket rather than lose it.
Yup, it’s not like there is a better prospect to bring up and try out. Let adell ride it out through this lost season and let him move on next year.
But Jeff, the team needs to make me FEEL like they are trying to compete becausth I’m stupid.
I can see him getting picked up, but not for that role. That role is filled with a vet who has usually produced before in playoff situations.
Adell has no options. Someone will take him and fix him.
Yeah, but Stephanic is white, scrappy and bald sooo….. keeper?
I actually think Adell and especially Nolan may work out well in the end. Both look really good when they aren’t getting beat and messing up their swings. Kind of like Howie Kendrick and sliders down and away a few years back. If they cut down on the ABs where they abandon what works they will likely be more akin to the “hot version” of themselves. Nolan, if he doesn’t sell out for power, could be a great contact hitter with a little pop. That’s fine with me, I don’t have insecurities about a 1B only having 12 HR if he hit’s 300 and has a high OBP. It’s not impossible to find an extra 13 HR in the other 8 batters in the line up.
I’m totally willing to give them more than a couple months to do this even if it means sacrificing the champihamshit level of baseball quality strives that a real man of baseball demands. I’ll even allow for a few more ugly slumps. Same with Neto and Logan if needed.
This is the year for ugly adjustment periods. Demandachamp guy can go watch the Olympics. Or the Lakers…. oh, ooops.
Arte spotting. Here’s what could be heard for those on the “inside.” “We look pretty good, our team is promising. Glad we held onto Sandoval, we could have traded him, but now we can try to keep him when he returns from TJ and lure him away from free agency. Let’s hold on to all our guys who have value. We’re loaded with talent.”
Fantastic LAT article on Neto.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2024-06-24/zach-neto-standout-angels-future
Neto leads all Angels’ position players with 2.1 WAR.
Sorry Trouty, Neto is the captain now.
I’d go with O’Hoppe as the captain before Neto. As a teammate I’d have a difficult time taking Neto seriously as long as he models the eye black smear from beneath his eye to the jawline. He’s a pro now it’s time to man-up.
First off, I’m buying stock on Neto. I think he’s on his way to be really good. Like that he has some Grit. Seems like he has some wannabe Street Thug in him, my bet it’s harmless. He won’t go full OG thug and become a rapper, and kill people. 😀
But I expect to see a full offseason spent at his favorite tattoo parlor, along with becoming a better MLB’er. But I’m sure we have a “Bird-Man” on our hands, but he’ll be our Bird-Man. If he keeps it up, and keeps improving and we become a playoff team again, I’ll get a Free Neto tattoo.
This is O’Hoppe, Captain ‘Merica! He and Neto are our future. Wash will teach them well and let them lead the way. He will show them all the beauty they possess inside. Give them a sense of pride to make it easier. Let the future winning remind us how we used to be in the 2000’s when we owned the AL West. That was the greatest gift of all. If we fail, if we succeed, at least we live as we believe. No matter what Art takes from us, he can’t take away our dignity.
Free trAditions!
Free us from the perpetual shit machine that we are today!
Let’s not get ahead of our skis.
Sorry Pineapple, trout is still the Man until he retires, he has earned it.
Dilly-dilly!!
Mostly kidding.
Nonetheless, I am pretty close to the taking my hopes for Trouty and storing them deep in my mental basement. His body has completely failed him and it’s a fool’s errand to expect anything from Trout moving forward.
On Friday, Trout will be 8 weeks removed from surgery to repair his torn meniscus. The standard recovery time for this injury amongst professional athletes is 6-8 weeks.
It’s the 8-week mark and Trout still can’t run without pain.
Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice, shame on you.
I’m tired of being fooled.
Must be all those heavy lifting he did when he was younger. Not enough flexibility and resistance training. Mike got obsessed with building those muscles and growing into his body, that it did ‘t have enough wherewithal to stand the usage throughout time. I’ve never seen someone heal so SLOWLY after calf issues, or in this case, knee issues. Although I was pleasantly surprised when he returned from what was supposed to be a devastating, permanent back injury in 2022 to finish the season and hit 40 bombs. I thought that was the season where he can finally put all the injury bug behind him and play almost full seasons regularly.
I mean, look at Tom Brady. Never been the muscular, 6-pack abs guy, but through proper training he was able to play until mid-40s in a very physical and demanding position. While Peyton, Romo, Big Ben, etc., were all breaking down around him, he stayed healthy long enough to keep on playing at a high level, and he retired on his own terms, not because his body has betrayed him.
It’s time to have that conversation with Trout about moving to a corner OF spot. If he’s still prioritizing playing a glamour position over his own health and that of the team, then as much as it pains me to say it, time to cut ties.
A slow recovery from the torn meniscus is the 2nd to last straw. The lunancy (definitely not the right word choice here lol) in not being able to return from the broken hamate bone was the third to last straw.
The next injury and subsequent slow recovery will be the last straw. And this is coming from someone who has idolized Trout since I was in high school.
Neto and O’Hoppe are the future and present. Trout is the past 😔🥺😭
It’s sad he went from being the GOAT to an injury -prone great guy who does hospital visits and signs autographs for every kid. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I’m so sad I’m having trouble figuring out how to blame Arte for this.
Retires, or is on a perpetual summer vacation…… when his job is in the summer.
BIG Papa
Nice performance on the mound by Canning, would love to see him continue doing this well.
1 down, 12 more in a row to go.
Ride back to .500 continues tonight.
The division is so bad, that if the Angels are at .500, they’d only be 4 games back. We haven’t sniffed the top that close in a long time.
I’m on P12’s hopium right now that if the Angels can play a good significant stretch here, while they play similarly bad teams, they’d actually be competitive enough when Rendon (or Trout) comes back. I still wouldn’t veer off course selling though…
Take the series tonight!!
10-10 in June.
Just a point of fact, this roster is full of young unproven position players and complete retreads. With what can be a horrific bullpen. Yet IMHO we’ve shown improvement overall as the years gone on. Defense has become tighter, young hitters are making pitchers work, showing some pop. Stay competitive most nights, and when we get the shit kicked out of us, we seem to bounce back and not let it get to us.
My biggest fear, is we are wasting what has been a pretty damn good showing with our starting pitching, and that next year they will tell us it was all just an illusion.
Mark me down as a fan of Washington and this coaching staff. I truly believe he’s got these young kids heading in the right direction. And I don’t think Nevin/staff would have done the same. This roster is probably, slightly playing above its skill level.
Yeah. For a team that is total crap they dig in and stay fighting all series/game pretty well against generally far superior rosters. They lose a lot, but not by as much as I always expect. They aren’t close to GOOD yet at all, but you can see how these guys can BE GOOD down the line if everything around them improves by 2 runs per game in either direction (scoring/prevention).
Gotta get some young arms up soon. See where we stand on pitching needs. Start the list of BIG REAL PROBLEMS vs problems so our super evilnept FO can plan for additions and try and move up to just 5 games under .500 next year.