Angels Lose Postgame 8-6 Final

Griffin Canning versus Kutter Crawford tonight. Here is the graphic about bullpen availability.

Inning #1

Jarren Duran pop out. Rafael Devers walked. Trevor Story fly ball Trout out. Masataka Yoshida struck out looking.

Anthony Rendon struck out on a foul tip. At least he made contact. Nolan Schanuel struck out looking. Mike Trout popped out to the catcher. 0-0.

Inning #2

Tyler O’Neill homered to center. 1-0 Boston. Triston Casas also homered to center. 2-0 Boston. Enmanuel Valdez grounded out to first. Canning then hit Cedanne Rafaela with a pitch. Reese McGuire proceeded to homer to right center driving in Rafeala. 4-0 Boston. Jarren Duran struck out. Rafael Devers flied out. I won’t be showing you videos of the Boston homers. This is an Angels site.

Taylor Ward reached on a fielding error by Triston Casas. Brandon Drury grounded into a force out. Miguel Sano popped out to the catcher. Mickey Moniak hit a short fly to Trevor Story for the third out.

Inning #3

Trevor Story flied out but Masataka Yoshida singled this time. Tyler O’Neill flied out and Triston Casas walked. At least Enmanuel Valdez struck out.

Logan O’Hoppe grounded out to short. Zach Neto popped out to first. Anthony Rendon also popped out.

Inning #4

Cedanne Rafaela grounded out to Neto. Reese McGuire struck out looking. Jarren Duran grounded out to second.

Nolan Schanuel grounded out to the pitcher. Mike Trout singled to break up the bleedin’ no-hitter at least. Trevor Story was injured and there was a delay. Pablo Reyes came in to replace him. Taylor Ward proceeded to strike out. Brandon Drury also struck out. Damn!

Inning #5

Rafael Devers flied out to Zach Neto. Pablo Reyes drew a walk. Masataka Yoshida flied out to Taylor Ward. Tyler O’Neill singled on a liner to right. Whereupon, Jose Suarez came in to replace Griffin Canning. He somehow managed to strike out Triston Casas to end the top of the fifth. It was still 4-0 Boston in case anybody is keeping track.

Miguel Sano came in and walked. Mickey Moniak struck out but Logan O’Hoppe singled to move Sano over to second. Zach Neto flied out. The mighty Anthony Rendon came up and managed to draw a five pitch walk and load the bases. Nolan Schanuel got an RBI walk to keep his streak alive. 4-1 Boston. Greg Weissert came in to replace Kutter Crawford. Mike Trout flied out to end the frame.

Inning #6

Emannuel Valdez grounded out to Rendon. Cedanne Rafaela walked and then was caught stealing, or was he? The Red Sox challenged and the play was overturned. Reese McGuire swung at ball four and popped out to Brandon Drury. Jarren Duran then singled and drove in Cedanne Rafaela. 5-1 Boston. Rafael Devers got hit by a pitch whereupon Luis Garcia came in to pitch. Pablo Reyes grounded into a force out.

Taylor Ward reached on yet another fielding error, this time by the center fielder Rafaela. Brandon Drury reached on a fielder’s choice. Ward was still safe because of another error. Miguel Sano got hit by a pitch to load the bases with no outs. Mickey Moniak popped out to third (infield fly rule). Logan O’Hoppe then hit a grand slam to make it 5-5.

There was still only one out at this point. Zach Neto struck out but Anthony Rendon singled to make it still 5-5. (You don’t score on a single, as many of you might be aware). Still, at least the guy got a hit. Nolan Schanuel struck out.

Inning #7

Jose Soriano came in to pitch. Masataka Yoshida grounded out. Tyler O’Neill got hit by a pitch. Ouch! Triston Casas singled through the middle. Emmanuel Valdez hit a sacrifice fly to center. 6-5 Boston. Cedanne Rafaela grounded into a force out to end the Boston seventh.

Mike Trout struck out. Hey! Everybody’s doing it. Taylor Ward singled, though. Brandon Drury got hit by a pitch. Miguel Sano singled to make it 6-6.

Mickey Moniak then struck out. Logan O’Hoppe flied out to right to end the inning.

Inning #8

Reese McGuire struck out swinging. Jarren Duran homered to make it 7-6 Boston. Rafael Devers walked and then Pablo reyes grounded into a double play.

Now Zach Neto grounded out to second. Anthony Rendon grounded out to third. What will Nolan do? Oh. He grounded out pitcher to short to first. Fancy.

Inning #9

Masataka Yoshida grounded out to first. Tyler O’Neill homered to left to make it 8-6 Boston. Oops! Triston Casas lined out. Emmanuel Valdez grounded out.

The meaty part of the order is coming up. Can they do it? Kenley Jansen faced Mike Trout and got him to fly out to right. Taylor Ward swung at a cutter well outside and lined out to first. Brandon Drury struck out. Game over man. Game over.

Photo credit: Jeff Joiner

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Brent
Super Member
1 month ago

Story to 10 day IL

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

Interesting lineup. Happy to see Rengifo get in there and it’s time for Trout & Moniak to contribute 2-Nite…..

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Strider (Braves) out with UCL injury. Does Bauer finally get a call with Atlanta losing their ace?

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

Why not beat them to it and call him first? Bauer slots nicely into our mediocre rotation.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

Mmmmmm…no. Fans may want it but not the owners.

Twebur
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Are we concluding they must be colluding?

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

I don’t like Urias and/or Bauer. One has beat his wife multiple times and is ‘playing the game’ to get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th chance: https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2024-03-29/julio-urias-dodgers-domestic-violence-charges

So being quiet and letting boras do the work, who this week said multiple MLB teams have reached out, along with Japanese and Mexican teams. Here is an article about why a certain culture doesn’t report domestic violence as they should or as much as some other cultures:
https://nwlc.org/why-arent-latinas-reporting-domestic-partner-violence/

Bauer took the rough behind closed doors stuff too far but has created content (I’ve never watched a YouTube or insta video of his) by picking fights with people such as Tim kurkjian. It’s quite the opposite approach as Urias took/is taking. Looking at who is/isnt making what claims might be worth a look for either side as well as why these idiots have become POS. Ultimately either story elicits strong reactions from all sides. Often the people posting strong opinions have been a victim of, contributed to or enabled.

Too long didn’t read; both are turds, I find it interesting to see who gets blackballed.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

I don’t think they are but let’s be real, dude is an a$$hole. Every time he speaks, just adds to the leprocy. So many pitching starved teams over the winter have passed, I don’t think that will change now.

2002heaven
Super Member
1 month ago

Griffin Canning had another bad outing and I don’t expect anything new either with Sandoval. BULLPENS DON’T MATTER ESPECIALLY IF YOUR STARTER ALREADY HAS YOU DOWN BY 4 OR 5 BY THE 6TH INNING
Reid Detmers, Sean Newcombe and Garrett Richards only starting pitchers taken in the first round since 2009. Can’t get better much if you’re not intentionally investing higher resources on two of the most important positions in baseball. Even if Reid Detmers does in fact have a breakout year, then at least two other people need to have a good year also, not just Reid.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  2002heaven

HEY TOOTS IF EVER YOU WANT US TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY WHY DONT YOU AT LEAST TAKE THE TIME TO SPELL THE REFERENCED PLAYERS’ NAMES CORRECTLY

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

I hope that Wash resists the temptation to move O’Hoppe up from the 8-Hole in the order. At least for now. If it ain’t broke….

Speaking of which, is it too early to stoke my Trout at leadoff Jihad?

Trout
Schanuel
Ward
Drury
Sano
RF
Rendon
O’Hoppe
Neto

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

If you move Rendon down to seventh he won’t like baseball again…but a good idea.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

I’ve never been on the bash Rendon train, but he is looking like a DFA casualty in the near future. If that happens, Rengifo can slot in anywhere from leadoff to 7 hole.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It’s not personal, he’s very expensive and ineffective, he’s said a number of really dumb things that didn’t sit well with people, and in theory, he prevents the club from making improvements. I think the frustration is because he’s really just a financial mistake (we all make them), that Arte needs to move on from but refuses to do so. And most of us would like to think that billionaire owners should have enough money to move on. If he can’t do this, then in my opinion, he doesn’t really have enough money to own a professional baseball team. He also needs to be a little more careful before he spends his money as this isn’t the first bad financial decision he’s made.

Last edited 1 month ago by Roy Hobbs
BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

The cost is already sunk. They’re obviously hoping to see some level of production IF he’s healthy. Now that he’s healthy, things will likely move quickly if he continues to bat well below .100. My guess is that the leash is probably around 100 at bats….If there are no signs of life, they’ll DFA him.

max
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max
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Yeah, I don’t think so. I’m of the opinion that he won’t be let go until the last year of his contract. More likely traded, in some creative way.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  max

OK, but if YOU were King, how would you navigate this situation?

Me? If healthy, I’d give him a longer leash, but I would drop him to the bottom third of the order immediately.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

I like the reverse psychology of dropping him to 7th.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

Rendon already at -0.6 WAR in 7 games. He’s on pace for -13 WAR!! How long do you keep him in the lineup?

Here’s a fun question- if Wash keeps Rendon in the lineup and Rendon keeps up this pace, does that negate his 15 WAR?

Last edited 1 month ago by Fansince1971
Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Logan O’Hoppe already has +0.6 WAR in 6 games. He’s On pace for +14 WAR!! Does this mean that O’Hoppe will negate Rendon’s negation of Wash’s +15 WAR ?

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

Screw you, MLB, for making that scoring change on Schanuel’s single on that Orioles game SIX DAYS LATER!!!!!!

On-base streak ends at 30 games.

Sucks we lost last night, but Logan! Sano! Even Rendone legged out a single!!!

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

That’s a bummer about schanuel but dayum that kid can get on base. Go team!

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

What a shitty thing to do

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

That would never happen if it were a Boston, Skanks, or Doyers player. What a joke.

halofansince1978
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1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

East Coast 4-Letter bias…everything is normal.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

No statute of limitations?!

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

That is a dick move

Twebur
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

They’re upset about the earthquake… blaming us.

bobblanton
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Why is reaching base by error not reaching base. I don’t understand that If you get hbp or walk you get on base

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Damn blowpen.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

The majority of the kids played. ✔️

The grit factor in the Kool-Aid the kids have been drinking is high, and they are not pissing it away. ✔️

The will be more games like this as the kids develop. ✔️

I’m okay with this.

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

This is the kind of game I’m expecting this season. The kids will take their growing pains, from Logan to Mickey to Joe to Reid to Griffin. The only expectation of Trout and Rendon right now is to stay healthy and play a lot of games, and worry about the stats later. The fringes will be supplemented by Sano and Hicks, maybe until July.

But I really liked how they bounced back 2x, and actually took advantage of the Sox errors, and made them pay. Good to see little things like that improve on from last year.

Last edited 1 month ago by smithy610
JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Agree about most of “the kids,” however, I am not confident about Canning. He is not a Major League starter. He tries to survive using smoke and mirrors, which is not a recipe for success in MLB. His fastball tops out at 93 mph; he just is a garbage fire waiting to happen.

Griffin Canning is the reason we lost last night, not Soriano or anyone else. Soriano never held the lead, and thus never “blew” the game. You have to get ALOT more out of your so-called number two starter then what Canning gave us…

Frankly, if I was Perry I would already be thinking about other options. Canning is not a long term solution. Can’t afford to give games away like that, batting practice for the opposition early in the game etc…

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Soriano never held the lead, he just kept giving it away. This loss is on the stubborn Washington who was trying to prove some weird point. If Nevin or Madden did the same thing, we would be all over them.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

BTW, you are entirely correct about Canning. Good thing Arturo and his errand boy didn’t sign a real starter in the off-season.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Classic case of two things can be true at the same time. Both pitched poorly.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I think he was following his script. I don’t have a problem with the fact Wash has a plan for Soriano or the pen in general, but I tend to agree that when a guy is “off” on a particular night you need to be willing to go out and get him …

For Soriano, his stuff is obviously great, but he still needs to learn how to pitch. For instance, the HR to Durran was a 99 mph fastball — not an easy pitch to hit out. But it was up in the zone, which makes it alot easier for the batter — good Major League hitters can and will still get to that pitch when it is up. It needed to be down, and had it been I think he gets him out.

So, I am not going to rip Soriano like everyone else here seems to be doing. I believe he can and will be an important and effective piece of our bullpen. Last night was growing pains. Just sucks that it happened early in the season in these crucial games… He needs to pay more attention to his location. If he does that he’ll be fine.

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Need MO JO!

Angelstan
Trusted Member
1 month ago

A nice comeback. Some quality at bats here and there. Canning looking shaky early and then at least straightening things out a little. The bullpen didn’t hold all that well but enough to get it tied twice at 5-5 and 6-6. Hope for a win today.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

This game reminded me that Trevor Story is still alive. Remember how angry so many of you were that Arte wouldn’t sign even the “lesser” FA short stops like Baez and Story?

I do.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

I was having the same thoughts during the game.

He dropped out of spotlight so quick. Injuries will do that I guess.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

But he would have fit in real well here with other stellar Free Agent acquisitions

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
1 month ago

One positive is the team showed a lot of fight tonight battling back multiple times.

Loved that we made Boston pay dearly for those back to back errors instead of crapping away another based loaded zero outs opportunity. That’s more than we could say about last year’s team.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Yep. This team’s gonna lose some games. We know that. Soriano looked….. young tonight. It’s probably because he’s young. Etc etc. But they didn’t just take a beating. They kept pushing, but imperfect execution, this time via 5 HR by the Sux, was too much this time. That’ll happen in our “not really rebuild” and that’s fine. As long as they don’t let up, they get better over time, then maybe they can win a couple more than they lose.

Unless CtPG guy and his constant need to remind us of shit we already all know and tend to our collective perspective so we don’t lose sight of the negatives manages to create a toilet bowl vortex of bad vibes. Then we’re screwed and we’ll get the team we deserve… a bag of smashed assholes.

I actually think Washington will be good at acting as Sad Donkey repellant for the team.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 month ago

We could easily have collapsed after being down 4-0, but the team is fighting and competing (despite expectations)

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 month ago

I didn’t see any of it but I could tell by the box that there was no reason to keep Soriano out there as he kept on giving up runs. We had a whole bullpen of guys.

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago

My Canning preseason prediction is not looking good.

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Boston tried so hard to give it to us with errors. The pitching was bad. Who cares if Soriano throws 100+ if he serves up meat balls. Hitting was off. Our 2 lefties Nolan and Mickey looked lost against right handed pitchers?? OHoppe tried to carry the team tonight.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago

Is there something in the water that makes Angels managers dumb. Three innings of Soriano is so objectively wrong when he clearly didn’t have his good stuff. What is a Washington trying to prove?

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Be ready for more games like this.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I’m expecting them. This will probably be the year of the Beautiful Losers, to quote Bob Seger.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

Just my guess, but I think he is still trying to keep his outings long. Cause there are still a few more games left in the season and we may need him stretched out.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago

I understand, but better to do that when he’s not clearly laboring, the game is on the line, and Matt Moore is still available in the bullpen.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Leaving him in when he’s giving up runs in a close game because we want to stretch him out is something that should be done in spring training or Salt Lake City.

Leaving him in is saying “you can’t chase wins every night”

Rallymanatee
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Besides the bizarre Soriano decision, I also didn’t like the squeeze bunt decision, especially trying a second time. Wouldn’t a sac fly have been a safer bet?

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Rallymanatee

It would if Mickey had a clue how to make contact. the dude looks lost at the plate. I dont think hes hit the ball hard all year. The second Sac bunt attempted resulted in a ball so not sure how that Wass detrimental to the at bat . Wash then took the bunt off and it resulted in 2 weak swing and misses. Personally I would have kept the bunt on. Mickey has showed in the past his ability to bunt why not stay with it? The Only salvation we had there is Mickey didnt hit into a 4-6-3 special there

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Neto, Moniak, Schanuel, Trout, Drury and of course Rendon all look pretty janky right now…. but it’s game seven.

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago

THEY SHERR DIDINT PLAY LIKE IT WAS A GAME SEVEN??? NO MEDDLE WITH OUR METTLE YOU METALHEADS!!!

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 month ago

The Angels are 4-2.

Ron is 0-1.

Last edited 1 month ago by Mia
Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

But but but 15 WAR

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago

Fun stuff tonight. Trout MVP chants, O’Hoppe first granny slammed, and being back at the ol ball park. We’ll manage to light up that halo at home soon enough

Last edited 1 month ago by Angels2020Champs
Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

And by Monday it will be echoes

Rick Souddress
Editor
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Thought we’d have a chance to win until I saw Soriano in for a 3rd inning

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick Souddress

I give this loss to the manager. Where was Matt Moore?

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Washington has to split it with Canning (who holds a larger slice of the “blame pie”) and Perry who thinks/thought that Griffin Canning could be a legit ML starter. THIS is why so many of us were saying to go out and get Blake Snell, or Monty or nearly anyone one else who was decent and available …. Can’t win with a guy like that in the top end of the rotation …

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

It’s true, but once Logan tied the game, Washington’s decision making ultimately cost us our chance for the win.

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