Teed Off On ‘Em Postgame

We had Chase Silseth against Carlos Carrasco today. Here are the starting lineups.

We teed off on ’em in the second inning but not so much in the rest of the game. The Angels put the Mets into last place in the National League East last night. In the first inning they picked up where they left off. Shohei Ohtani got a one out double and Brandon Drury singled him home to make it 1-0 Angels.

The Mets went three up three down for their part of the first inning. In the second inning, Mickey Moniak apparently got tired of striking out. He made it 2-0 with a home run.

After Hunter Renfroe made an out, Trey Cabbage doubled to right to put a man in scoring position with one out. Randal Grichuk flied out to shallow center. Luis Rengifo single to center to drive in Cabbage. 3-0 Angels.

Shohei Ohtani tripled to the right field corner to drive in Rengifo. 4-0 Angels.

Now Brandon Drury came up. All he did was doubled. 5-0 Angels. Unfortunately this got Carrasco removed from the batting practice game.

Sean Reid-Foley struck out Mike Moustakas to put a stop to the festivities at least for the time being. For the Mets, DJ Stewart walked to break up Silseth’s perfecto. Three other guys made outs to bring the Angels back up. Mike Moustakas made the defensive play of the second inning.

Reid-Foley got two quick outs but he walked Hunter Renfroe to give the Angels a two out base runner. Trey Cabbage struck out. Nothing really happened in the third inning.

The Mets brought in Phil Bickford to replace Sean Reid-Foley. Grichuk struck out and Rengifo grounded out to bring up Shohei Ohtani. Ohtani walked. He stole second and was hit in the chest by the throw. Ohtani also stole third while Brandon Drury was batting. Drury eventually struck out.

In the bottom of the fourth inning, Silseth began having some issues. He gave up quick singles to Lindor and McNeil to put two men on for Pete Alonso who hit a low flying missile to Rengifo for an out. The Mets then involuntarily tried a double steal which was kind of a run down that went badly for the Angels. Chase Silseth got hit in the head by a Trey Cabbage throw to third. Lindor scored on the play. Trigger warning to all you long suffering Angels fans.

Silseth was able to get back up on his feet. He had to leave the game, though. He was apparently hit on the side of the head pretty close to an eye. Cabbage was given an error.

The Angels brought in Aaron Loup. Yeah. Yeah, I know. He did get Vogelbach out but DJ Stewart doubled to score McNeil. Omar Narvaez struck out to end this frame. 5-2 Angels.

The Angels again went three up three down in the top of the fifth inning. Rafael Ortega and Jonathan Arauz both singled. Brandon Nimmo struck out and Ortega stole third. Francisco Lindor struck out. Jeff McNeil grounded out.

Drew Smith came in to pitch for the Mets and Hunter Renfroe doubled to right. Three other Angels made outs to end the top of the sixth. Dominic Leone came in to replace Aaron Loup. Rete Alonso struck out and Daniel Vogelbach homered. 5-3 Angels. DJ Stewart struck out. Omar Narvaez walked. Raphael Ortega also walked. Luckily, Jonathan Arauz flied out to end the inning.

Jose Soriano came in to pitch the seventh and retired three Mets in a row. We had a sort of a bench clearing incident when Pete Alonso was hit in the neck by a pitch.

The Mets did nothing in either the seventh or the eighth inning. Luis Rengifo got a two out hit in the top of the ninth to bring up Shohei Ohtani who was intentionally walked. Brandon Drury grounded out to end the Angels threat.

Abraham Almonte and Brandon Nimmo grounded out. Francisco Lindor popped out. The Angels won it 5-3.

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DowningDude
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7 months ago

I wonder if Dick Swisher knows he doesn’t need to yell into the mic.

Guest
7 months ago

Bruh!?

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halofansince1978
Super Member
7 months ago

Todays Lineup:

Rengifo 2b
Ohtani DH
Drury 1B
Escobar 3B
Grichuk LF
Renfroe RF
Moniak CF
Wallach C
Velazquez SS

Canning SP

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago

Squid has started 3 of the last 5 games. We are 0-3 in those games and 2-0 in which he’s on the bench.

Makes sense.

Cowboy26
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

he hits much better against lefties. But Considering the surrounding cast our fate may be sealed anyways.

sadnewfan
Member
7 months ago

Hopefully the Mets are playing their Sunday “B” lineup too.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago

It’s difficult to visualize a W with this lineup, but some of these broken clocks will be right today.

Nice to see that we’re “protecting” Drury with Escobar. Haha

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It has been another cursing moment for the Angels that Schanuel got acute gastroenteritis. If he were better, he would have been playing (and Squid would not have been on starting lineup.) Moose and O’Hoppe are getting their scheduled day off. I have no words for Sho, who just missed two games (#12 and #30).

WallyChuckChili
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Do they need a day off on the same day?

willtheangelswin
Member
7 months ago

it’s bonkers how many fundamental errors the Angels make… Silseth shouldn’t have been running to back up third, he should have been backing up first on that play, which was his first instinct. It’s really hard to watch this team.

willtheangelswin
Member
7 months ago

BTW, i really hope is OK..that was nasty.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago

Backing up first on a missed SB sign? Huh? Two runners at second base, my friend. The next action was going to be at 3rd which evidently had nobody there and thus why Chase was headed that way.

Cowboy26
Legend
7 months ago

Seems like a Premium take right there.

red floyd
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7 months ago

Can we just dump Rendon and re-sign Moose?

matthiasstephan
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7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

If we think he can maintain this level next year (and doesn’t then cost too much), I would love to bring Moose back – even if he is backup/platoon at 1B (with Nolan) and 3B (for as long as Rendon is on the field).

MarineLayer
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

If I said that Cowboy would be all over me.

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

I always think of the Flashdance song for Moniak, Moniak.

WallyChuckChili
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7 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

And I think of the Mickey Mouse song.
M-I-C, K-E-Y, M-O-U-S-E
Mickey Mouse!
Mickey Mouse!

red floyd
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7 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

That one too…

red floyd
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7 months ago

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DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Yay! I saw the lit-up A last night

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
7 months ago

DSL Angels lose in the playoffs. Bummer. But there’s talent there.

IE 66ers look solid. Denzer Guzman is showing some power. Nelson Rada is getting on base and swiping bags. They’ll be here in ‘27 – ‘28- Just around the corner.

nishiogawakun
Super Member
7 months ago

Stumbled upon a few tidbits on the interwebz that have probably already been highlighted here, namely CJ Wilson airing some minor grievances about how cheap the club was, and how some accused the recent lack of imaging on Shohei’s arm these last few episodes as gross negligence (which turned out to not necessarily be the case), and then I started going down a bit of a rabbit hole. Obviously there are a variety of cognitive biases that I’d deal with pondering if there are very many other clubs as internally dysfunctional as the Angels, and I do believe the Angels are not the worst.

But I can’t help but think the Angels have more than their fair share of baggage over Arte’s ownership. I mean we’ve had shady lawsuits, drug deaths, breaks with HOF former players, specifically highlighted minor league deficiencies, and a seemingly growing list of publicly dissatisfied former players just to name a FEW. Maybe playing so poorly leads to disgruntled players, or maybe poor development leads to losing which leads to etc., etc.

I mean, not winning is the pits, but being perceived correctly or otherwise as a shady AND highly dysfunctional org is disheartening. I mean, we’ve had some bad luck too, I’ll concede that, but we’ve had some really good luck as well! And it may be there’s rot in the org that is making the millstone just too heavy to rise up against.

Rant over. Thanks for being here for me to rant, CtPG, even if I’m shouting into the wind. My wife sure doesn’t want to hear it, haha.

Continue to hope for new management soon.

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DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  nishiogawakun

Listen to the Talkin Halos podcast with Victor Rojas for perspective on that one…

I also an a loyal listener to Locked on Angels and they’ll also give you a good thought exercise

nishiogawakun
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

I will. I honestly listen to more than a few podcasts, though audiobooks are more my jam. However, I don’t listen to a single Angels production. I guess I never thought to look, or maybe subconsciously doubted their quality? Well, who cares really, I’m interested to give both a shot. Thanks.

DMAGZ13
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7 months ago
Reply to  nishiogawakun

My bad: angelswin podcast is with Victor Rojas, talkin halos is hosted by Jared Tims the guy who covers a lot about the Angels farm system.

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red floyd
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7 months ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

DMAGZ??? Damn, it’s been a long time. How are you, dude?

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

What was the thought exercise? Perry sucks and nows the time to fire him if they are going to fire him?

max
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max
7 months ago

That throw to first Mathis O’Hoppe was something else

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
7 months ago

Shohei may go for a 30-30 season.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

If you talked to Steven Cohen, I have a feeling that he would be ok not sending the bill.
https://twitter.com/_Hornik_/status/1695575631310770304

red floyd
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

“This page is down”

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

call your internet provider. Page is up for me.

Kiyotchan
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DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

it’s also on my phone – captured from the broadcast.

sadnewfan
Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

If they’re smart they won’t fix that sign; it’ll get a lot more attention as the “Mark of the Unicorn”

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
7 months ago

Shohei has been hitting the ball hard. I think he’ll hit #45 tomorrow

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

And if he is IBB’d, he will get his #21 & #22 steal. He might consider wearing a chest protector, though.  😉 

FungoAle
Super Member
7 months ago

I’d like to see 3 more this month, give him 47 and go on a tear in September to put a scare in Judge’s record.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 months ago

I am probably Renny’s biggest detractor around here as years ago it was apparent to me that he would never be a star. The first half+ this season was what he is, but he recently has brought his avg up, fielding is much improved and has been playing SS and 2b much better. But while his second half for two years running can only enhance his value on the trade market, only if Neto is healthy though. I do not care for Rengifo for several reasons such as not preparing for the batted ball hit to him and where to go with it, going to his left side is weak. His bat is streaky as seems the norm on this team, but he still guesses and his first pitch hitting every at bat hurts the team overall. Batting RH has improved immensely this season. His base running is awful, and his Baseball IQ is very low, hence the Ten-Cent Head moniker and he has earned it.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago

Give credit where it’s due … he’s OBP’ing over 400 this season at leadoff and he’s batting 310-ish. Pump the brakes on this incessant hate for a lovable little fella.

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GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

DD, I think I was being truthful and honest in my evaluation. No?

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago

you were offering your opinion with which I disagree. The guy is playing well. Clap clap. Go team and stuff

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago

“but he still guesses and his first pitch hitting every at bat hurts the team overall”

Rengifo has a 1.000+ OPS on the first pitch. I ask respectfully, can you please explain to me how that hurts the team overall ?

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

rage boner over visual perception of “laziness” which is a lazy take on the guy’s game.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

This lazy f*cker needs to stop playing EVERY day, dammit.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I have no idea why … but I love his game. I’m a Rengifo fan. Not just skin color and jersey number but the way they play – he reminds me a lot of Aybar – a bit bone-headed but flashes of brilliance.

FungoAle
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Yeah, me too, a poor man’s Erick Aybar

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

They’re similar. Though Aybar hit for better average, but Rengifo is far more position flexible.

FungoAle
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Much better hitter, Aybar was a slick fielder, GG one year. Vladdy’s buddy.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

And he’s Wander Franco’s uncle

Cowboy26
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Well according to The Fielding Bible He is right near the absolute bottom in Defensive Runs Saved per innings play for all MLB shortstops . Hes not as bad at 2B but hes still below league average.

So counting on him as a regular starter with be a defensive nightmare. Now as a utility player maybe. But you’ll be paying him $5 million next year as a bench utility player . id rather have Gio if hes healthy.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago

those mets announcers were asswipes. i get it but sheit. put a piece of cake into your hole

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

(on the HBP)

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Frustrated, frustrated franchise and a frustrating season. Sound familiar?

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

yeah, like complaining about your 320/400 leadoff guy seconds after a pretty decent victory over a crappy team.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

This RDS (Rengifo Derangement Syndrome) is tiresome.

The dude is a solid utility player and more importantly, there are at least 10 more pressing problems plaguing this franchise than Rengifo.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

My son and I sat behind some “angel fan” who bad-mouthed garret anderson the other night. My son never got to see GA play as he was too young.

After the dumbass left to go to the bathroom, i explained that GA played “visually slow” in the corners but he wouldn’t let balls play him in that corner. Smartest player in left field corner at Anaheim that I’ve ever seen.

That game, there were two plays where the left fielders got played in that corner. “GA wudda gotten those” I told my son and loud enough for angry Anti-GA guy in front of us.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I guess it’s human nature to fully embrace one narrative or another and never let go.

Body language is very subjective. Only results matter.

tanana40
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I would also add that GA could turn on the speed when he had to catch a ball. He seemed to know well whether he could catch a call or not and if he had a chance, he had good speed to get to the ball.

2GA2Join
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

I took this screen name as a jest, but I thought GA was one of my favorite players ever.

Twebur
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

On the “All Time Under-Appreciated” list.

Never understood GA being misunderstood. Would love to have a guy exactly like him on todays roster.

red floyd
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Dude was a professional. Did his job, never got into trouble.

red floyd
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

As I recall, Torii called him “Blue Smoke” because he could turn on the speed.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Well, there you go. trAdition going back to HH. GA was smooth, our version of Bernie Williams, who in spite of the hate for the uniform he wore, was a very good outfielder who never looked like he was playing hard.

Yet rage boners (for shady reasons in my opinion) have made “GA” the very definition of lazy.

2GA2Join
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It can also be Rendon Derangement Syndrome too… I see a lot of that on this site.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Utility is exactly his value. Just imagine this team if Rengifo was our Util guy off the bench, instead of a starter everyday.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago

This is precisely my point. If Rendon & Neto weren’t perpetually broken, he wouldn’t be in the utility role.

Incessantly complaining about Rengifo is like worrying about the broken window when the building is engulfed in flames.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

amen!

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
7 months ago

hope we have a special visitor after tomorrow’s game

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
7 months ago

Aunt Flo?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

My mind went ????, then .

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Barney Fife.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago

D.B. Cooper?

red floyd
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Agent Cooper?

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WallyChuckChili
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7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

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BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago

This is incredibly cryptic….

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

dont. jinx. it.

max
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max
7 months ago

Rendone coming off the IL?

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BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  max

Oh, Neto. Gotta’ be Neto….

max
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max
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

yeah that’s it, O’hopefully

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 months ago

Shohei is Player of the Game, and league MVP.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

According to Terry Smith, Star of the Game sponsored by Sapporo Beer.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

i sure could use an ice cold tall shiny silvery can of sapporo right now.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Made me look.

Most Sapporo beer sold in the United States is now brewed by Sapporo Brewing Company in La Crosse, Wisconsin.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

woof. how do I get the stuff from Hokkaido?

Kinda like San Miguel from the Philippines. Need the local crap water in the beer for the best taste. Export versions are garbage.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

San Mig Light and Filipinos go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

for the record, I haven’t had a sapporo since visiting Tokyo in ’04

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I generally go with Asahi when eating Japanese.

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

as do most people. i prefer sapporo. Asahi is the Rengifo of Japanese beers.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I see what you did there. Haha

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

My late father loved Kirin, which used to dominate Japanese beer market. Overall popularity of beer went down in Japan, but apparently the most sold beer now is Asahi Dry, but the most popular beer is Sapporo Draft Black Label.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

This is more for my evil twin brother GhostGuest, but Kirin comes from mythical animal.

Habitat: areas ruled by a wise and benevolent leader

Diet: purely vegetarian; never harms another creature

Appearance: The kirin is one of the rarest, most awesome and powerful creatures ever known in East Asia. It is a regal animal, holy and highly revered. The kirin is often considered a god in its own right. Resembling a deer with scales like a dragon’s covering its body, the kirin is a chimerical beast. It has a tail like an ox and a flowing mane. Its body and mane are covered in brilliant, holy fire and its face is the picture of utter serenity.

Behavior: A gentle animal, the kirin never eats the flesh of other beings, and takes great care never to tread on any living thing, even insects. When it walks, it does so without trampling a single blade of grass. Its beauty is only surpassed by its rarity; the unicorn-like kirin only appears during periods of world peace. They are seen only in lands owned by wise and benevolent people and during the reigns of noble and enlightened rulers, where they herald a golden age. Although kirin never harm good and pure souls, they are swift and fierce to attack if threatened, breathing holy fire from their mouths.

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BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

All this Japanese beer talk has me craving some robota….

red floyd
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Domo Arigato!

red floyd
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Then what is Kirin?

Twebur
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

As a die hard Angel Fan……..I’ve always preferred Red Whine.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago

We agree on this point. Though Drury & Rengifo played well and Moniak jacked one out.

Soriano & Carlos did their jobs.

Team Win.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
7 months ago

Angels Win!
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