Angels win 2-1 Postgame

Chase Silseth started today against Jose Urquidy of the Astros. Griffin Canning was activated and available out of the bullpen.

Inning 1:

The Angels went three up and three down. Mickey Moniak struck out to continue with his hitting woes. At least Jose Altuve also struck out when the Astros went three up and three down.

Inning 2:

For the Angels, the song remains the same. (Three up, three down). For the Astros, Chas McCormick got a one out single to break up the no hitter early. Silseth got out of the inning without anybody else getting on base.

Inning 3:

Randal Grichuk grounded out and Eduardo Escobar hit a bloop double to the opposite field to put a man in scoring position with one out. Chad Wallach struck out. Mickey Moniak doubled to score Escobar. 1-0 Angels.

Shohei Ohtani then struck out. (DFA!) Grae Kessinger hit a lead off double. Martin Maldonado Attempted to sacrifice bunt but ended up striking out. Randal Grichuk robbed Altuve of an RBI with an excellent play.

Alex Bregman flied out to end the inning.

Inning 4:

Angels went 1,2,3 on ten pitches. Kyle Tucker hit a ground rule double and Singleton walked, but Silseth got out of this inning without giving up any runs.

Inning 5:

Luis Rengifo struck out. Randal Grichuk grounded out as did Eduardo Escobar. That was just ten more pitches. Jose Altuve drew a two out walk and Matt Wise went out to talk with Silseth about something, maybe it was “Did you hear any buzzing sounds?” Alex Bregman singled to put two men on. Luckily Yordan Alvarez grounded into a force play to end the inning.

Inning 6:

Chad Wallach singled to lead things off but Moniak hit into a double play. Shohei Ohtani hit a solo homer. There could have been more than one run, of course, were it not for the double play. 2-0 Angels.

Brandon Drury grounded out for the third out.

Jose Soriano came in to replace Chase Silseth. He got two quick outs but walked Jon Singleton. Mauricio Dubon singled to drive Singleton to third. A wild pitch scored Singleton. Grae Kessinger then grounded out to end the inning at 2-1 Angels.

Inning 7:

Mike Moustakas grounded out to first. The Astros brought in Kendall Graveman to face Hunter Renfroe who flied out to center. Luis Rengifo grounded out to end the Angels part of the eighth. Reynaldo Lopez came in to face Martin Maldonado who flied out. Jose Altuve grounded out. Alex Bregman got a two out single to put a man on. Yordan Alvarez flied out to center. It was almost a homer but it was an out.

Inning 8:

Chad Wallach “worked” a four pitch walk with two outs. Dusty Baker replaced Graveman with Brayan Abreu who retired Mickey Moniak on a ground out. Matt Moore came in to replace Reynaldo Lopez. Kyle Tucker struck out and Chas McCormick golfed a single to left. Jon Singleton struck out. Mauricio Dubon also struck out. 2-1 Angels.

Inning 9:

Shohei Ohtani walked. He stole second while Brandon Drury was batting. Drury struck out. I guess it’s like a sacrifice except that Ohtani made it to third on a throwing error.

Mike Moustakas also walked. Hunter Renfroe popped out foul to Martin Maldonado. Andrew Velazquez walked to drive Rafael Montero out of the game. Can Ryne Stanek stop the Angels scoring juggernaut? Yep. Randal Grichuk flied out to right. Carlos Estevez did this: Kessinger=strikeout; Yainer Diaz= strikeout; Jose Altuve= easy shallow fly to right to end the game.

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Angelz4ever
Super Member
7 months ago

Solution: We won’t be able to afford to sign Ohtani in FA, but we could afford Kyle Tucker and have a four-man DH rotative OF in 2024. Possible Ward would be odd man out.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
7 months ago

Okay, so when is 2024 spring training?

Last edited 7 months ago by Angelz4ever
Angelstan
Trusted Member
7 months ago

Angels starting pitching staff candidates:

OHTANI
SILSETH

Giolito
Sandoval
Canning
Anderson

Detmers
Barria

The latter two aren’t really options anymore. Three of the top six aren’t under contract for next year.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
7 months ago

I guess I should have listened to today’s game on my way back from Phoenix, but I just couldn’t endure that level of torture. Went to the D-Backs/Padres game last night, 25th anniversary celebration. Lot of old Arizona players there, Joe Saunders was the only old Angel name I recognized. Got to see The Big Unit right there on the field. First time I have been to a game my team won in like three years, I think.

max
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max
7 months ago

Didn’t watch the game today (didn’t watch much of the series), had better things to do, like mow the yards and cook brunch, glad they weren’t swept. So disappointed in this organization. Every single day in the offseason I pine for the regular season. They can’t even manage to have an above .500 season since 2015. I mean, even a team that tries to win can manage a .500 season once every 8 eight years or so. Burn it.

GrandpaBaseball
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7 months ago

This weekend’s MLB Umpiring is taking a beating with the results of many games decided by bad calls, including every game that Angel Hernandez is involved in. Fans all across the spectrum are calling for Robo-Umps and this weekend showed just why. As long as there is no discipline measures or accountability, nothing will change. Even bad umpires will retire with better pensions than everyone except Government Employees (ha-ha).

Umpires have a crew chief who’s only leadership call is to decide which Hotel and which Restaurant to eat at. (Carb counters they are not.)

Several things come to mind here, first those little squares we see are not completely accurate, but they are closer than the Blues are. Umpires do not set up to see outside corners and trust the eyeball looking at the catcher’s glove. That doesn’t work anymore with teams now teaching framing. Lastly, Umpires demand respect, but do not give it back in return for the most part. While trying their best is admirable, too often an Umpire will give warnings very early to cover up the fact he stinks.

I am not an advocate for “Robo-Umps”, The system in place now is fair for the Player’s and Teams and the Leagues and fans. What is bad is that there again is no accountability.

Most fans don’t know when an umpire is out of position, when he does not watch every pitch to determine if the batter went around or not.

So how do you fix it to making it better for all?

First is do not re-sign with the MLBUA unless they give some at the bargaining table.

  1. Eye Test twice a season.
  2. Must pass a rules test of 100 questions and can only miss five.
  3. 2 physicals a year. Overweight, out of shape, you are demoted.
  4. In game evaluations. Does the Blue set up properly, know the rules, how he controls the game etc.
  5. 20% of all MLB Umpires will be demoted based on results of evaluation, and test scores and physical shape.

In season games with be reviewed also. Suspensions can and will be given during the season.

With these rules in place, you know the Umpires are going to strive to do better than being allowed to coast. Angel Hernandez, does anyone think he gives a shit about whether he can do better? This is just one Umpire that has no integrity whatsoever, takes no pride in being better.

There are MLB and MiLB umpires that that great pride in being the best they can be, some even can game score 98, 99, 100% getting calls right. The game of Baseball needs some changes, but having the best umpires would go a long way to staying as close to the roots of the sport and getting the calls right.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
7 months ago

Umpire relegation sounds like a pretty dammed good idea to me.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago

I’m really curious to see what, if any, Logan O’Hoppe will have on the pitching staff when he returns in a couple of weeks.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

He caught four innings and 1 for 3 at bat with a double last night. I am certain he will play later in Rancho Cucamonga.

Last edited 7 months ago by Kiyotchan
BannedInLA
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7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

*what impact

WallyChuckChili
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7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

The does he call a better game than Thais and Wallach impact.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 months ago

Silseth has really turned it on, now Nevin needs to stretch him out. What holds Detmers and Sandoval back is simply control. Wasted pitches. The other teams know what they are doing by working the count, they are all on the same flight, only swing at “Your” pitch. The 2 of them have potential, but the fact is, they both are below average starters.

angelslogic
Super Member
7 months ago

Missed the game today (which is undoubtedly why the Angels won). Congrats to Silseth for showing Detmers and Anderson what a good pitcher looks like, and to Shohei for #41.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

I too was absent for most of today’s contest, so maybe you and I need to play hooky more often. Not that it matters, we are not playoff bound unless we about win out.

2GA2Join
Super Member
7 months ago

I launched Gameday today, and the very first pitch I saw was the wild one that scored the Astros run.

I can’t tell you how many times that has happened to me over the past month or so. I open Gameday, and the opponent scores immediately.

Although I did go on vacation far away near the end of June and the team collapsed, so that is the opposite effect, oh well.
 😄 

WallyChuckChili
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7 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Did you leave gameday open while you were on Vacation?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

The Rangers got walked off by 2 run walk off homerun by Bailey! It has been a relatively good day. If the Orioles beat the Mariners, I will sleep more peacefully tonight.

GrandpaBaseball
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

By Beetle Bailey?

angelslogic
Super Member
7 months ago

A military hero.

max
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max
7 months ago

Beatle John?

GrandpaBaseball
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7 months ago
Reply to  max

Beetle Bailey was a cartoon character from the newspaper funnies from 1940’s thru the 2000’s. He was a private and had a fat sarge always riding him. Similar character was Sad Sack, but by the early ’80s he was done. Mort Walker and later his son took care of the writing and drawing for Beetle.

max
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max
7 months ago

lol, I’m prob in your age range. I was just playing on the words, as you were

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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7 months ago

Beetlejuice

WallyChuckChili
Legend
7 months ago

VW Beetle?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I think I am going to sleep really well tonight with Scott Servais getting ejected for a balk call against Mariners and Beaver Adley Rutschman getting a swing bunt to score a run!

Last edited 7 months ago by Kiyotchan
Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I love Cedric Mullins. Web Gem of the day!!!

Last edited 7 months ago by Kiyotchan
Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Right now, Sewald for Canzone and Rojas seemed to have worked out. Sewald closed out to win against Padres, and Canzone just hit a monstrous tying solo homerun with a fantastic bat flip after 2 outs in the bottom of 9th.

Last edited 7 months ago by Kiyotchan
Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Did I mention that I love Cedric Mullins?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Sho’s high school BFF Fujinami was non toxic today.

jshort63
Member
7 months ago

I’m impressed with Silseth’s progress this year. He also seems to have the personality of a winning pitcher. Doesn’t seem intimidated at all. Looked up Patrick Sandoval’s stats. My perspective is that he’s had a rough patch but overall has pitched fairly well. At any rate his career numbers are 16 wins against 32 losses with a career ERA of 3.74. This year ERA 3.86. I know some think ERA is an overrated stat, but an ERA under 4 is quite good these days, but the W/L doesn’t bear that out. That’s says several things I suppose, run support perhaps, or not pitching deep into games, or maybe the Angels just suck. There’s always that.

max
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max
7 months ago
Reply to  jshort63

[X] lack of run support
[X] not pitching deep enough
[X] Angels just suck

I think you may be onto something  😋 

GrandpaBaseball
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7 months ago
Reply to  max

 😀  yep.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
7 months ago

More on my Fangraphs odds rant…

They had San Diego playing at a .570 clip for the rest of the year, then the Padres lost to Arizona (a sub .500 club) so now Fangraphs has increased the Padres expected percentage to .577.

Who knows what the real odds are but man oh man, I just have to disregard that site.

nishiogawakun
Super Member
7 months ago

That is rather Interesting

Fansince1971
Legend
7 months ago

Play of the day for the Angels was Grichuk’s diving catch of Altuve’s sinking liner (with a runner at 2nd) – it changed the complexion of the game.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

That is a great point. That play was such a sharp contrast to Yordan Alvarez being lazy in coming to Escobar’s bloop double, which eventually led to Angels first run.

Fansince1971
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Those two plays were the difference in this close game.

smithy610
Super Member
7 months ago

Always a good day when the cheaters get beat, regardless of whether the Angels are in playoff contention or not.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

well said,

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Despite Arsstros outhitting us 7 hits to Angels 4 hits. But, we had 1 for 5 in RISP where as they had 0 for 8 in RISP. That one hit by Moniak turned out to be pretty significant.

steelgolf
Super Member
7 months ago

Now, if Silseth can just stretch out to 100+ pitches per outing instead of 80, and keep improving his repertoire, he could come close to being Chase the ace. He sure is a completely different pitcher than last year.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

He’s a completely different pitcher than earlier THIS year.

smithy610
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I would hope that Silseth has finally turned the corner. But that’s what also I thought about Reid when he had an amazing run in June and now he’s back in a rut again.

Although to give credit to Chase, the teams he beat are certainly nowhere cheap – Yankees, Braves, Cheaters. I hope he is as legitimate as these last 3 games show.

angelslogic
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

There is a big difference between Silseth and Detmers: the types of pitches they throw accurately. Detmers’ pitches are very predictable. Silseth’s not so much..

WallyChuckChili
Legend
7 months ago

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MH252525
Trusted Member
7 months ago

I want to thank the Astros for not turning on their cheats today so as to not make it apparent that they were actually cheating vs Detmers and Anderson. Well played Astros!

smithy610
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  MH252525

Cheaters laying it on thick by just scoring on a wild pitch and nothing else.

Last edited 7 months ago by smithy610
WallyChuckChili
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  MH252525

I heard the Wifi was down in the stadium today

rosstrade
Trusted Member
7 months ago

I wasn’t expecting much from Silseth or Canning this year. Happily, they are proving me wrong.

But, I was expecting a lot more from Sandy and Detmers.

Both Suarez and Anderson have been disappointments in their own ways.

Even with The Sho, the Halos starting pitching staff doesn’t have much depth, consistency, or durability.

It’s hard to believe that Silseth is now the Number 2 behind Sho.

It doesn’t bode well for next year.

2GA2Join
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Someone responded to me that we can’t really rebuild next year, but must continue to try to compete.
I agree with what you said here… given that, the only way I think we’ll truly “compete” next year is if Arte seriously raises the spending limit and signs multiple big name pitchers. I’m not claiming that those pitchers automatically do well… sometimes they flop (like Rodon this year). But I do guarantee that you can’t get any results out of pitchers that you don’t sign.
If all we do is lose Ohtani, and then Perry re-signs Giolito and says “look, I strengthened the pitching staff, I’m done now” then we are in for a rough ride.

2GA2Join
Super Member
7 months ago

I got online briefly when the Astros got their run, and I figured anything might still happen.
I was impressed to sign on just now and see the score stayed the same.

aces666high
Trusted Member
7 months ago

Wow, what a playoff push by this club. At this win rate they’ll only finish 15-20 games out! Hell of a run!

Missed it by that much! 🤏

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

It was a bit outside.
https://youtu.be/g_wc9JvTXGc

Eric_in_Portland
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7 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

At this rate we’ll finish 102-60