LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Buyers!

The Angels are apparently buying in the trade deadline market. Welcome to Lucas Giolito. Shohei Ohtani is officially off the market. We’ll be having a doubleheader today. Shohei Ohtani goes up against Michael Lorenzen.

Here you can find the Angels 2024 Spring Training Calendar.

The Angels are in discussions with the Nationals for a third baseman. The Red Sox got Mauricio Llovera from the Giants. The Dodgers traded Noah Syndergaard to the Guardians tor Amed Rosario. The Twins and Marlins swapped relief pitchers Jorge Lopez and Dylan Floro.

The Astros activated Yordan Alvarez and Jose Altuve.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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2GA2Join
Super Member
11 months ago

OK if we’re serious, I’d like to see us get Rodriguez or Stroman now…

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

How? They’d have to trade Ohtani to get prospects to trade for Rodriguez or Stroman.

2GA2Join
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

I don’t know, people around here are all in, so let’s go all in now!

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
11 months ago

Here’s my plan: Give Ohtani 1 extra day rest so he pitches next Thursday against the Mariners rather than Wednesday against the Braves. That lines him up to pitch in important games against potential wild card competitors (Seattle x2, Texas x2, Cleveland x1, TB x1) and puts him in line to pitch the last game of the season.

He obviously skips the last start if the Angels have clinched the playoffs, maximizes the chances if it is a must-win, and if the Angels have been eliminated, it means Ohtani’s potentially last game as an Angel is as both a pitcher and a hitter.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
11 months ago

Any more smoke on the Candelario rumors?

Twebur
Legend
11 months ago

Maybe Lopez will be the big surprise in all of this.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago

I am getting all confused, but with Walsh DFA’d, and Joyce being moved to 60D IL, we can still add Weiss without any more corresponding move, assuming that Weiss has return flight back to wherever SLC Bees are playing tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1684578771863732226

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Double headers allow you to add an extra player without utilizing options. This was a COVID change that stuck with the league. Weiss will be returned to AAA after today.

Both Giolito and Lopez are essentially in Roster purgatory right now. Even though both are on the 40 man neither are on the active roster yet. Gio will be added tomorrow while Lopez will be added before game 2 today. I suspect Reyes will be optioned after game 1 and Silseth will be optioned before tomorrows game.

If the game is a blow out in either direction look to Reyes to get playing time in game 1.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Thank you for unconfusing me.

Erstad with the catch
Member
11 months ago

I think DFAing Walsh was the correct move. He’s going to turn 30 at the end of the month.

The Thoracic Outlet Syndrome zapped his power plus then you have the neurological issues. Tough way to end his Angels career but we did get 55 home runs from a 39th round pick.

tanana40
Super Member
11 months ago

He will likely clear waivers.

jco
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jco
11 months ago

He’s being handled the same as Fletch. He’s due 900k through the end of the season, so he’ll clear waivers. He has to accept the outright to keep the money. He’ll stay with Salt Lake, but won’t be on the 40 man roster.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago

Perry knows ball.

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AnAngelsFan
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11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Good speech.

Angels22
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11 months ago

This is brutal.

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Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Damn finger nail.

fishfarm
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

I’m not saying I think Lorenzen is bad or I wouldn’t want him on the team still, but lets not ahead of ourselves with small sample sizes.

AnAngelsFan
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Lorenzen’s last 3 starts were KC, Sea, and Oak. Ohtani’s were Pit, Hou, and SDP

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Last time I checked, Lorenzen did not graduate from Hanamaki East high school. Let’s make two days in a row for 2 graduates of Hanamaki to win MLB game as starter.

Last edited 11 months ago by Kiyotchan
Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago

More Angels news:

Lucas Giolito is in Toronto and will pitch tomorrow.

Lopez will be here in Detroit today.

Jared Walsh has been DFA’d.

Zack Weiss is here as the 27th man.

Ben Joyce is on the 60-day IL. That’s more a matter of the calendar, he can come back mid-August in theory.

KPAngel
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11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Dang. Hammer about Walsh. I liked him and hoped the best for him but understand the decision.

Angels22
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11 months ago
Reply to  KPAngel

Sad to see Walsh DfA’d. I think he will turn it around.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

But We’re so lucky to still have Tucky

I assume Reyes & Silseth will be sent down then ? Lopez & Lucas will need to be added onto the 26 man roster unless he is the 27th man for only one of the double header games.

Last edited 11 months ago by Cowboy26
Twebur
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Maybe Tucky has other special talents we don’t know about? Maybe he’s an artist. Maybe he does those paintings with a straw, where he blows the paint around into pretty shapes…..very colorful.

Why is his he bulletproof and untouchable? He’s holding a roster spot for no apparent reason.

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

I’m not sure I would DFA him with several worse players on the 40 man, but either way, and the drafting of that 1B with the first pick, it’s clear they’re moving on.

BruinsAngelsKings
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11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Bummer about Walsh, really liked him and his defense at first.

Twebur
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11 months ago

He can still stick around..maybe go through the process and come back.

BannedInLA
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11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m starting to think Joyce is done for the year and that’s likely the correct decision.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I agree with you. It is like what happened with Sho, who waited for a few months and pitched to find out the UCL was not quite healed, and underwent Tommy John. Hate to see it, but Joyce and the Angels are probably considering possibility of Tommy John, which appears to be unavoidable anyway.

MarineLayer
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11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I’m very certain he’s done for the year.

JakeTaylor
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11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

With all the crappy relievers we have in the pen, they DFA Walsh. Smh

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago

I’m not in love with Giolito, but I don’t mind trading Quero and Bush to get him. Let’s hope there’s another established starter in our future to fill it out the rotation, even if it costs us someone like Canning and/or Ward/Renfroe. I do appreciate we’re making a run for it.

Claret
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yeah, Giolito doesn’t seem to be the pitcher he was between 2019-2021. He definitely makes the starting rotation better, but his fielding independent stats aren’t great, so I am not convinced that he has suffered this year from bad luck or from having a poor defense playing behind him. And besides, the Angels defense has been sloppy this year too. Maybe the change of scenery and going to a team that has a chance to make the post-season will motivate him.

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Claret

Agree, not dominating stuff at all but he does make it better…not largely but better

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He’s a local guy, so there’s a chance he’ll want to re-sign with us if things go well the rest of the year.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Unless Ohtani also re-signs, that doesn’t really help. The Angels have Detmers/Sandoval/Canning/Anderson. They need an ace, which Giolito is not.

If Ohtani is that ace, then Giolito fits into a 6-man rotation. If Ohtani isn’t, then the Angels would need to find a way to move Anderson.

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

That was my assumption. Giolito is no ace.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Claret

Comparing Giolito’s current 2023 stats to Angel’s main rotation (Ohtani/Detmers/Sandoval/Anderson/Canning), he would be:

IP – 1st
ERA – 2nd
FIP – 4th
xFIP – 3rd
K/9 – 3rd
BB/9 – 2nd
HR/9 – 5th
WAR – 4th

Looks like a mid-rotation piece that might go a bit deeper in games (if the Angels let him).

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Good analysis. I agree. He feels like a 3 or 4 to me. We need someone like Snell to round out the rotation which is easier said than done. Scherzer or Verlander would also be nice if Mets are selling.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Unfortunately, I’m not sure who the Angels have left to trade to get one of those.

BannedInLA
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11 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

I could be totally wrong, but it might not take much if the Mets are focused on shedding payroll in a lost season….

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Good with moving Ward and Canning for an upgrade

DowningDude
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11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

luck? or idea?

halofansince1978
Super Member
11 months ago

First Game Lineup:

Rengifo
Ohtani
Moniak
Ward
Moustakas
Renfroe
Cabbage
Wallack
Velasquez

Ohtani

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago

Although humid, the weather forecast indicates the temperature will remain in mid 70s until 2 pm EDT, which should help Sho, who hopefully would last 7 innings today. For the second game, Sandoval will have to replenish H2O and electrolytes as necessary.

Let’s do it, Halos!

Last edited 11 months ago by Kiyotchan
YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Sounds like weather that would make skaggs (rip) sweat like crazy in.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago

still no Neto.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Neto will be playing in the 2nd game

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

is the line-up out for game two?

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

It is not, but Nevin confirmed yesterday that Neto will start 1 game today.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I thought he said Neto would play the second game and might get in for defensive replacement for the first. I may be mistaken, though.

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Good, Neto needs to get his cranky body in the lineup

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I remember Nevin saying yesterday that Neto will play the second game and might get in first game (probably for defensive improvement to remove hee-fo in late innings->winning formula, 5-0 when hee-fo is removed in 7th inning or before when leading).

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Correct. Phil said Neto for game 2 today.

Makes sense to me.

Angels22
Trusted Member
11 months ago

Could we get Snell and Soto from the padres? I think we could trade Adell, Renfroe, Barria, and Suarez, Joyce. Something crazy like this. Is that blockbuster enough?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

As crazy as it sounds, Padres are not ready yet to be sellers. I got this sneaky feeling that they are going to go with ‘back to the wall’ mentality against Rangers series. I will for obvious reason cheer Padres this weekend. If they win the series, this weekend, they will not sell Snell, Soto, or Hader. If they lose, will see a flurry of activities on July 31 to Aug 1.

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I have a soft spot for the Padres. Fun city and great stadium.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Petco Park has moved up to top 3 of my bucket list after reading your posts from there. It also helps that my wife has many relatives there.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Petco is so dope. I’ve only been to 3 MLB parks and have them ranked accordingly:

Big A
Petco
Dodger Stadium

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

It is.

I’ve been to:

Anaheim
Chaves Ravine
San Diego
Seattle
Milwaukee
Chicago (Cubs)
Detroit
Toronto

Of that group, SD is my favorite.

Boston is on my bucket list.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Awesome list !
Surprised you skipped out on SF and OAK

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Really want to hit SF. I have been to Oakland numerous times – for Raider games (back when I cared about football)

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

SF is overrated. Too many Giants fan go there.https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f600.svg

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

SF is a wasteland nowadays anyway.

red floyd
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11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

So is Fenway, for the similar reason that too many Chowds go there.

Oddly, in their natural habitat, MFY fans are pretty decent. They made me and the Miss UCs feel at home.

Last edited 11 months ago by red floyd
Persi_W
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11 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Transplant Chowds that come to Angel Stadium are 10 times worse than Chowds in their natural habitat.

steelgolf
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

SF is another great ballpark. Was at 3 games there last year. My brother in law is a huge Giants fan.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Petco was definitely nice but PNC park was my favorite. That place is gorgeous

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Which is PNC? I don’t bother to memorize the corporate names so I typically go by cities.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Pirates I believe.

DowningDude
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11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Three Rivers’ replacement

Twebur
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

IMHO… PNC, Petco, AT&T in SF are the class of MLB

Then Feneway, Wrigley, Camden Yard. Hate to admit it M’s have a nice Home. What ever they call it in Cleveland still holds up. Twins, D-Backs, KC, Doyers, Cards have a great park and surrounding area. Not in any particular order.

Love the Big A, but……

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Agreed. Petco is amazing and I love the location right downtown by the water.

I’ve been to LAD, LAA, SD, SF, OAK, STL, DET, BOS, and AZ. Petco my favorite by far, with SF second on that list.

Persi_W
Newbie
11 months ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Spot on. Petco and SF are the best. The locations, architecture, atmosphere and views are spectacular at both. I’ve also been to LAA (of course), LAD, OAK, SEA, COL, AZ, NYM, DC, Wrigley and Fenway.

red floyd
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Petco is awesome.

My list:

Anaheim
The Latrine
Petco (awesome stadium)
Oracle (when it was AT&T)
Choakland (The Tarp Covered Monstrosity)
Seattle (also awesome)
Wrigley
MFY Stadium
Nationals Park
Fenway (when I was a kid, but took the stadium tour a few years back)

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’ve only been to the Big A, Petco, Chase Field )D-backs) T-Mobile (Seattle), and the latrine.

The Big A is first because, well duh, Petco is a great park and I like Chase Field as well. T-Mobile was nice as well aside from the absolute clusterphuck that is the concession stand lines. The latrine, ’nuff said.

Last edited 11 months ago by BruinsAngelsKings
DowningDude
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11 months ago

baseball:
Anaheim, Petco Park, Oakland Coliseum, Chavez Ravine, Fenway, Shea Stadium, Three Rivers and Citizens Bank Park.

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Do it. You won’t regret it. Padre fans are chill also.

Twebur
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Stay away when the Doyers are in town. Homeless around the park are a bit of an issue.

But otherwise damn near perfect park. On top of the perfect setting, Gaslamp Quarter, great sight lines, even have the best grass in MLB.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I take my dad to baseball game every Fathers Day. If the Angels are in town we obviously go there. IF they are out of town we go to either Sand Diego or over to Phoenix (I refuse to pay to go to the latrine).

This last Fathers Day we went to San Diego. I had purchased a new vehicle that finally had GPS (previous vehicle was a 2005 model year). Using the GPS to get to the parking structure closest for my 78 year-old dad took us East of Petco Park, somewhere I had not been. Holy smokes, the amount of homeless along the freeway off-ramp and streets was insane, troubling, and depressing all at the same time.

Last edited 11 months ago by BruinsAngelsKings
steelgolf
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

You really should catch a game there. Beautiful place.

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

We should be ready to leap if they decide to sell. I’dbe pretty comfortable going with that Big 3 if we were lucky enough to qualify for the post-season.

Claret
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

There’s no way San Diego takes that island of misfit toys in exchange for Snell and Soto.

Angels22
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Claret

Padres need to help their local SoCal Friends out. Then Preller can remind Ohtani after we win the worlds series and Padres can sign him.

I love Ohtani but I’m okay if he signs with another team if we win it all this season.

Last edited 11 months ago by Angels22
BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Claret

My thoughts exactly. He here’s are junk, give us two All Stars. Lulz

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Jared Walsh and David Fletcher for Juan Soto and Blake Snell.

Maybe we can throw in Tucker Davidson, maybe

FungoAle
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Canning, Bachman, Walsh and Ward for Snell, Hader and Soto

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

The Padres would laugh at that.

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

toss yours up there

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

we got nothing left to trade.

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I would tend to agree. It certainly won’t be a big splash like last night

Last edited 11 months ago by FungoAle
DowningDude
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ohtani?

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Too soon

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Give me Neto and take Kim back

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Only of they throw in Machado for Rendon. Haha

steelgolf
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Angels22
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

How about Angels extension and trade. 600 million 10 year extension for Ohtani with a guaranteed trade to Padres after the season for Snell and Soto.

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Interesting out of the box thinking….

Angels22
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I really want to see the Angles win a World Series with Ohtani. Ohtani and his agent probably wouldn’t go for this extension and trade though because then they are capping him at 600. Maybe a team will pay more than 600 doing free agency.

Of course there are other blockers like Padres agreeing to it, but I think it is Ohtani signing an extension is the bigger blocker.

Last edited 11 months ago by Angels22
Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

That would be obtuse For sure.

Angels22
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

We need to go all in! We can accept another playoff drought if we win it all this year. 😀

Upside, we won’t get stuck with a bloated contract. I haven’t seen a 10/10+ year contract workout.

Last edited 11 months ago by Angels22
DowningDude
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Angels … Angles … Obtuse … right … complementary … supplementary … ANGLES

DowningDude
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

RIGHT YOU ARE

red floyd
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11 months ago
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comment image

BannedInLA
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11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

*excuse the typos. Excited posting. haha

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Throw in Rengifo…lol

DowningDude
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11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Arte blocks that deal.

GrandpaBaseball
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11 months ago

Good, nah, great morning to all, “WE HAVE THE PITCHING!”, as good as anyone or better trying to get in as a Wild Card. Great trade for both clubs. I agree with Fan ’78, PTP may not be done yet. Our Superstar’s wanted to get to the Playoffs, so let’s get there. To borrow an old slogan from Al Davis – Just Win Baby!

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago

We need one more vet arm to give us a chance to make a sustained run. I’ve seen Giolito project out as a #40 or so ranked starter, just to give some context. I’m happy we acquired him, but I’m not sure he’s even a legit #2 and Matt Wise certainly won’t fix him.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago

“After yesterday’s deals, here’s the Angels pitching depth chart…

SP: Ohtani, Giolito, Detmers, Sandoval, Canning, Anderson (Silseth, Barria, Suarez)

RP: Estévez, Moore, Lopez, Loup, Soriano, Webb, Barria, Reyes, Davidson (one of these guys will go today).

As for position players:

Drury should be back next week (if not sooner). Trout within 2 weeks. O’Hoppe within 3-4. They join Ohtani, Moustakas, Neto, Ward, Moniak, Renfroe, Rengifo, Escobar, Thaiss, etc.”

https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1684561395218632704?t=YZv_R5huZxS_OzyQbVCNbw&s=19

TROUT WILL BE BACK WITHIN 2 WEEKS 🚨🚨🚨

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

With the addition of Giolito and Lopez (designated as ‘minor’ now lol), I counted the number of players on MLB.com Angel’s 40 man list yesterday night and this morning. Excluding 60 day IL, there are 42 members, which means 2 of them need to come off eventually. Most likely, though don’t have to be, they would come from pitchers.

It is probably safe to assume that Giolito pitching on last Sunday eliminates his participation today, and today being double header, they can add one ‘minor’ player today to active roster. Technically, one can come off today, and another tomorrow, right, Cowboy26?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

My bet is Gerardo Reyes is moved back to SLC today, assuming he still has option left, and Tucky tomorrow. I don’t think Tucky has options, so he will be DFA’d tomorrow and will have to clear waivers (good chance of that especially during this busy time of trade Tsunami IMHO) to be back at SLC. Will wait and see for corresponding moves for the next 24 to 36 hours.

Good chance we will see Lopez if he can get to Detroit from Chicago by the second game of DH.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

According to RR Reyes has one option left so he can easily be sent back to AAA but that doesn’t solve the log jam on the 40 man.

If Tucky is an odd men out ( great book by the way) then he could be removed from the 40 man and 26 man roster by being DFA’d .

Other candidates for being removed from the 40 man roster are Jimmy Herget, Zach Weiss and possibly Reyes, Kolton Ingram and Andrew Wantz .

Lastly, depending upon Ohtani’s nail, could the Angels go all 5 man rotation to complete the season? Thereby giving Mr. Anderson a permanent seat in the Pen? The Angels hav a series of 6 game on 1 day off cycles in August and September which would force Ohtani to pitch every seven days unless he changes his rest pattern. The other thing they could do is pitch others like Lucas on a 4 day rest pattern ( like he’s used to) thereby minimizing the need for a 6th starter . This will get interesting.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Does that count include the Walsh DFA and Joyce moving to the 60-day IL?

Claret
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Fletcher listed 17 pitchers (he counted Barria twice and Suarez is still on the 60-day IL, which means he is technically not on the 40-man roster). So two pitchers will have to be sent down by tomorrow. Barria, Loup, Webb, and Davidson are out of options. I expect Reyes and Silseth will be optioned. The Angels could DFA Davidson, which would free up a spot on the 40-man roster. Davidson cannot refuse his assigment.

Last edited 11 months ago by Claret
BannedInLA
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11 months ago
Reply to  Claret

Send down Reyes and DFA Davidson is my guess.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

still need one more move off of 40 man

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Davidson will (should) be the odd man out. He blows.

Claret
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It looks bad because the Angels gave up Iglesias, and he is still a solid closer. But I don’t think Davidson will ever amount to anything more than minor league depth.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  Claret

Not sure how much looking bad matters to Perry. . Perry just proved to everyone he s got big enough ones to even trade his ownprized draftees and signees .

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Claret

I think Iglesias was a salary dump. Interestingly, he’s been very mediocre in Atlanta. Very ordinary peripherals.

Erstad with the catch
Member
11 months ago

Long time lurker, first time commenter.

I think I’m ok with this trade for the mere fact that Quero was blocked by O’Hoppe. We traded from a surplus which is what you’re supposed to do. Bush has upside but also some injury history.

It would have been great to have made this trade 3 weeks ago but better late than never.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
11 months ago

Welcome to the fray.

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steelgolf
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Fray? Wait a second, I was told this is a “Fray Free” zone! There shall not be any “frays” or “kerfuffles”

DowningDude
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Shemp: “them’s fightin woids in my country!”
Bad Guy: “Well then, let’s fight!”
Shemp: (shudders) – “this ain’t my country!”

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

love them kerfuffles.

DowningDude
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Especially the nougat-filled ones.

halofansince1978
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Are you sure it’s not a bobbery?

Simba
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

It’s kerfluffle! A pox on you kerfufflers.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
11 months ago

Welcome to the family

steelgolf
Super Member
11 months ago

Welcome! Jump on in, the waters fine.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 months ago

Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani have given their everything to this franchise — 4 MVPs between them (should be 7) and countless memories.

The correct decision was made to go “all in”. Finally.

Our 2nd best player this season, Mickey Moniak, was acquired for 2 months of a broken Thor.
Prospects come and go, while most of them flame out. We will be fine without future superstars (or future grocery store baggers) Edgar Quero and Ky Bush.

Actual superstars Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani, the undisputed best players in game since 2010, deserve this. WE as Angels fan DESERVE THIS.

Lets rock and roll baby

Last edited 11 months ago by Pineapple12
Brent
Super Member
11 months ago

We’re number 1! We’re number 1!
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At having the worst farm in the MLB.

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/farm-system-rankings

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Brent

That’s a discussion for the doldrums of the offseason. Enjoy the moment.

DowningDude
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

it’s ok to discuss now – i think we were already last PRIOR to the trade so hard to go any lower. Maybe we’ll hit 89th out of 30 in the off season.

angelslogic
Super Member
11 months ago

I really like the trade, but let’s pray that Giolito doesn’t go all Anderson on us.

FungoAle
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Love trading the prospects but Giolito is not a dominant arm that I was hoping to see acquired

DowningDude
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

market shifted unfortunately. We had to overpay to make it happen due to shifting conditions.

smithy610
Super Member
11 months ago

Now that Ohtani is offically off the market, I expect the flood gates to open.

Angels being undecided on Ohtani was certainly slowing down the action.

I admire Perry’s hutzpah. On the same day he keeps Ohtani, he immediately gets the best pitcher available. I was worried that with all the Ohtani waiting, Perry would miss out on everything else – whether it’s buying or selling.

But he strikes first, and it’s a big shot across the board.

DowningDude
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

I wonder if the Ohtani “announcement” (it was a leak), though, accidentally raised the cost for any pitchers in trades.

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I also wonder if dangling the possibility of an Ohtani trade was a ruse to slow down other trades until the Angels could figure out which way to go

2GA2Join
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

I agree with you there, I’m impressed by Perry in this regard.

All that crap with Ohtani could have made us dilly-dally around so we missed out on everyone else, and ended up “standing pat” at the deadline which would have been really silly. Good job Perry for at least acting once he chose his direction.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
11 months ago

If we make Baldoquin available, What do you think we can get in return?

A number 1 SP
A Slick fielding, power hitting 1B/3B
Dipshit may even give us Julio for him

(Of course we would have to re-sign Baldo first)

DowningDude
Legend
11 months ago

Add in Maitan and we could get TWO #1 SP’s