What A Relief, Not!!! Angels Still Win.

Reid Detmers came to pitch today. How did he pitch? How did Framber Valdez pitch? Well, everybody was doing fine until Chris Devensky came in to pitch. That was embarrassing. Matt Moore also sucked.

Inning 1:

The defensive highlight of this inning was Matt Thaiss gunning down Mauricio Dubon trying to steal second base.

Framber Valdez struck out Zach Neto and Shohei Ohtani. Taylor Ward doubled. Mickey Moniak lined out directly to the first baseman.

Inning 2:

Corey Julks doubled past Escobar at third. It didn’t matter. Detmers got out of the inning with two strikeouts and a fly out. Hunter Renfroe got a two out walk and Matt Thaiss got a hit to keep the inning alive. Luis Rengifo hit a three run homer. 3-0 Angels. It was initially ruled a double. I guess the international umpire conspiracy dropped the ball when this became a home run.

Inning 3:

Chas McCormick walked and Mauricio Dubon got a one out double to put men at first and second with one out. Jeremy Pena grounded out to advance the runners. Kyle Tucker singled to drive in two runs. Mike Moustakas made a nice play on an Alex Bregman pop up to end the Astros half of the third. It’s 3-2 Angels here. Shohei grounded out. Taylor Ward struck out. Mickey Moniak also struck out.

Inning 4:

Reid Detmers struck out two guys but walked Yainer Diaz. There was a mound visit. He then walked Chas McCormick. Martin Maldonado came up and doubled to make it 4-3 Astros. Dubon hit a fly out. This is not a major melt down, but it is not what the Angels want to see during a losing streak while they are up against the opponent’s ace. Eduardo Escobar reached on an error by Alex Bregman. Mike Moustakas struck out. Hunter Renfroe doubled but Escobar was gunned down at home plate after what seemed like a brain fart by the Angels third base coach. Matt Thaiss struck out to end the inning.

Inning 5:

Jeremy Pena grounded out Neto to Moustakas. Kyle Tucker hit a fly ball out to center. Alex Bregman grounded out to short. Rengifo then grounded out. Zach Neto struck out. Shohei Ohtani also struck out.

Inning 6:

Jose Abreu lined out to Zach Neto. Corey Julks flied out to right. Yainer Diaz struck out. Taylor Ward came up and singled to center. Mickey Moniak got his first hit of the year against a left handed pitcher. It was a single to left that barely cleared the infield. Eduardo Escobar notched his second strikeout of the evening. Moustakas also struck out. Hunter Renfroe grounded into a force out to end the inning.

Inning 7:

Chris Devenski came in to pitch for Reid Detmers. Chas McCormick singled on a ball that bonked off of the glove of Luis Rengifo. Martin Maldonado executed a perfect hit and run play. The Astros now had men at first and third with no outs. Mauricio Dubon singled to drive in a run and Maldonado went from first to third. 5-3 Astros. There was a mound visit, for what that’s worth. Jeremy Pena struck out. Kyle Tucker almost hit a homer which fortunately was caught by Mickey Moniak. It served as a sacrifice fly, though. 6-3 Astros.

Alex Bregman singled to center sending Dubon to third. Jose Abreu homered. 9-3 Astros.

Now Zack Weiss came in to replace Chris Devensky on the mound. Devensky was doing so well. I guess we need to save his strength for future games. Weiss got Corey Julks to ground out to third to end the Astros half of the inning. Matt Thaiss walked. Luis Rengifo grounded into a force out. There was one out and a man at first. Zach Neto homered to make it 9-5 Astros.

Ryne Stanek came in to replace Framber Valdez facing Shohei Ohtani. Ohtani struck out. Taylor Ward walked to bring up Mickey Moniak, who singled to center. Eduardo Escobar singled to right and Taylor Ward scored. 9-6 Astros.

Mike Moustakas came up, at which point the Astros brought in Bryan Abreu to pitch. Mike Moustakas homered to make it 9-9. Thank you Bryan Abreu. Hunter Renfroe then struck out to bring us back to Earth.

Inning 8:

Matt Moore came in to pitch. I might have linked “More More More” by Andrea True but Yainer Diaz singled and Chas McCormick homered while I was finding it. Now I’m looking for “Less Less Less” by Weird Al Yankovik if it exists. 11-9 Astros. Martin Maldonado grounded out. Mauricio Dubon lined out although he burned up 9 pitches to do so. Jeremy Pena singled to right. Now Tucker Davidson came in to replace Moore. Mercifully, Kyle Tucker struck out.

Matt Thaiss came up with Hector Neris pitching. He grounded out softly to the pitcher. Luis Rengifo struck out. Zach Neto hit a fly ball out to center to end the inning.

Inning 9:

Tucker Davidson came back out to pitch the ninth. He got Alex Bregman to ground out. Jose Abreu singled and advanced to second on a throwing error by Eduardo Escobar. Corey Julks lined out to Moniak in center. Yainer Diaz singled to drive in Jose Abreu. 12-9 Astros. Chas McCormick singled to third. Martin Maldonado popped out.

Can the Angels mount another one of their famous comebacks? Ryan Pressly came in to replace Neris on the mound. Shohei Ohtani homered to make it 12-10.

Taylor Ward singled to left. Mickey Moniak singled to center sending Ward to second. Andrew Velazquez came in to pinch run for Moniak. Eduardo Escobar singled to center to load them up for Moustakas with no outs. Martin Maldonado suffered a passed ball that scored Taylor Ward. 12-11 Angels.

Moustakas grounded out but Hunter Renfroe singled to tie the game.

Matt Thaiss struck out. Trey Cabbage came in to pinch hit for Luis Rengifo. He was out on a fly ball to center.

Inning 10:

Now Carlos Estevez came in to pitch. Martin Maldonado is standing on second. Mauricio Dubon flied out to right. Jeremy Pena struck out. Carlos Estevez intentionally walked Kyle Tucker. Then Alex Bregman popped out to end the Astros half of the tenth inning. Phil Maton came in to pitch with Trey Cabbage standing at second base. Zach Neto flied out to right and then the Astros intentionally walked Shohei Ohtani. Taylor Ward walked it off with what was a throwing error by Grae Kessenger. 13-12 Angels.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

Not worried about Sho’s AL MVP because he does not pitch, but his countryman Masataka Yoshida hit his 2nd grand salami in addition to a 2RBI triple today. Yoshida might win BA (0.315) crown in AL this season. Didn’t expect him to hit this well, but he would have been the ideal lead off hitter for Angels this season. (At $18MM x 5 year)

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

With likely devastating loss of Cubs(8 GB in division and 8.5 GB of WC3), I believe the talk of Stroman and Bellinger becoming available for trade will intensity for the upcoming week. Should Angels consider trade for either/both of them?

2GA2Join
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Absolutely not.
Trading away young assets for a “win-now” trade is what I think is the worst move we could make.
Followed by standing pat and hoping we make the playoffs with Ohtani.

We should trade away everyone we can with an eye towards making 2025 and onwards a much better team.

Last edited 9 months ago by 2GA2Join
Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I understand. It is almost always who the Angels are willing to lose. Especially with less than 10% odds of making playoffs as of today, and not likely to improve significantly before deadline, standing pat is the most prudent strategy.

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Pass on Bellinger — we don’t need an OF already have a glut once Adell and later Trout come back … HOWEVER, I would be interested in picking up Stroman, depending upon what the Cubs were asking…

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

His contract for this year is $25MM (so it will be little more than $10MM for short rental). Next year is player option, so he is essentially FA. Don’t have to get him before August 1, but I do remember he said something positive about playing on the same team with Sho, it will be an interesting discussion off season.

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Masataka Yoshida hits .331 at Fenway and .295 elsewhere. Not sure how his bat would translate to the Big A (although I think that stupid yellow line in right might make Anaheim a better hitters’ park than before)

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

I agree. He is perfect for Fenway because he likes to hit oppo anyway. He is just an average OF, doesn’t make too many mistakes, but not spectacular. Red Sux is using him in 2, 3, and 4 hole. Red Sux fans are now overjoyed to have him, sharp contrast to early in the season when they were ready to have him commit harakiri.

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Yeah, my nihonjin pal who loves Boston did exactly that flip-flop, and now no longer wants to see Chaim come to harm through mob violence

Claret
Trusted Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Fenway Park has definitely boosted his batting stats. But he’s such a great contact hitter, and that skill plays well in any park.

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 months ago

I see that the updated for Rendon’s return is now “possibly late July” which implies that this could slide to August. What an unfortunate mess.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago

To put last night into perspective which makes this even more impressive with the DPV

https://twitter.com/OptaSTATS/status/1680445456134881281

Last edited 9 months ago by Cowboy26
LanaBanana
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Wow!

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ha ha. I was going to post this exact same Twitter factum Cowboy… Saw it a little over an hour ago… Something (probably laziness) stopped me from doing it… So you got the pleasure of putting it out in the Halosphere.

Last edited 9 months ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
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9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Are You more GA than me Frosty? I didn’t think that was possible

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Could be …But I always felt that GA was unfairly called lazy and in fact was a better outfielder than most Angels fans realized …

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

BannedinLA almost got it !00%. Impressive.
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1680654185577213952

steelgolf
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Damnit, Rengifo again. Screw you Nevin, you keep playing with fire and you get burned, but you still don’t learn your lesson.

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Instead of DFA, it’s starter.

FungoAle
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I really dislike Rengifo but I think he is the right guy to go with over the Plumber. Drury will come back and man 2nd and that should end that. Maybe Perry ordered Phil to start Gafo to showcase for the Chunichi Dragon.

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

In the meantime, Minasian needs to look for a replacement for Rengifo on roster, someone who can play 2B on days Drury isn’t.

Cowboy26
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9 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

The fix is already on the roster ML

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Maybe pulling him from the game is the spark he needed. It worked for Wander Franco ( No I realize they aren’t remotely close to the same player so chillax) and if we are forced to start Rengiblows because of all the other injuries. S I say lets stick a boot of his ass to get maximum effort until other players return or he goes all Bump Bailey on us (RIP) .

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Another thing about Rengifo is his ability to hold short memory (which one can argue is mostly his detriment). Hee-fo can let bad errors and horrible at bats fall off his back. Thus, he is unpredictable, and opponent pitchers relax after facing Sho and POW, he hits 3 run homer off Valdez, arguably one of the best pitchers in current MLB yesterday.

On the other hand, I remember the horror Plumber had on his face when he popped up the bunt attempt that resulted in double play, which obliterated any momentum we had on Friday and when he failed to convert an out on Houston steal by simply catching the beautiful throw by Wallach to him at 2B. Many of us know he survived many obstacles to come up to the ‘show’, and he was given precious few opportunities to succeed. Unfortunately, the stage is still too nerve racking for him to perform without gripping too hard.

Last edited 9 months ago by Kiyotchan
Twebur
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

short memory – lack of awareness – indifference = Rengafo.
All involve a lack of thinking.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Totally agreed, but in this comparison, you are making my point, ‘lack of thinking Rengifo’ > ‘too much thinking Plumber’

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Glad to see that Phil is going with the “hot hands” in Ward & Renfroe. It’s an approach I tend to agree with as baseball players are streaky by definition.

halofansince1978
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Our agreement was delayed by a day…get the series tonight!!!

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 months ago

2 out of 3 versus the Astros is always acceptable when you consider how much they’ve “big brothered” for the last decade+

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Not only that, but we will be 4-6 for the season with 3 games to go and a chance of winning the season series with them. That would a huge psychological booster.

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Why are you all talking about a series win as if it has already happened ?

steelgolf
Super Member
9 months ago

11:43 am on Sunday, and still no word of Rengifo being DFA’d. Let’s go, drop the DFA hammer and move forward!!

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Rengifo is like Digitalis, cardiac medication for arrhythmia, if used sparingly and carefully, highly effective, but toxic and deadly if ingested in excessive amount. It comes from beautiful fox glove plant, called Digitalis Lanata.

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Last edited 9 months ago by Kiyotchan
Twebur
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

When I think of Rengafo and medicine, I think of GoLYTELY, the stuff you drink before a colonoscopy.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

The Poup energy drink?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Should I go to an optometrist?

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angelslogic
Super Member
9 months ago

Maybe folks here don’t want to dwell on the negative after such a great, unButtercupish comeback win, but let’s not forget how badly Nevin mismanaged the game.

Whether inserting a pinch-runner for the best hitter on the team, calling for bunts in non-bunt situations, subbing a rookie for Rengifo in a clutch situation, and other malfeasance, Nevin has shown himself to be inept and incapable of leading the team.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

I agree with every point you make, and I would add Haselman to your list for sending Escobar with Renfroe’s double early in the game. We might say the Angels won despite the coaches. Or shall we say we won because Asstros made just one more error than the Angels.

By counting the number of wins and losses when Neto played, 32 – 25. I am suddenly buoyed by this fact. That is exactly 90 win pace. Welcome back, Neto.

Last edited 9 months ago by Kiyotchan
Cowboy26
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Escobar proved his slothiness on that play. Considering his importanceas the winning run in the bottom of the ninth, Phillip shot his wad too early by forcing a baserunner upgrade that really went an upgrade. It would have been much much better for us to have Squid run for Escobar but Phillip was out of viable options there.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Agreed. When I rewatched the play, and how poorly Escobar made the turn at 3rd base nauseated me. (Trout would have made perfect rounding 3rd base if he were the runner.) I hope that Haselman noticed it and coach up Escobar or hold him at 3B in future similar situations. The only good thing about that play was that Escobar did not break his pelvic bone like Urshela did.

LanaBanana
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I agree, as well, and although I think the Angels won by displaying some grit, it was also because they made one less error than the Astros.. I think Nevin needs to go. This site seems pretty much unanimous in agreeing on how horrible the moves he makes are.
Also, I don’t understand why Fletcher was dfa’d instead of some others, namely the plumber.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Fletch is back on Salt Lake Bees roster after clearing waivers though he has not played past 2 days. Either physical, or perhaps mental issues associated with the recent loss of his father. No information is available, and I am certain the Angels will honor his privacy.

By the way, it was totally accident that I posted something about Digitalis Lanata earlier. I still maintain you are one of our bright, beautiful flowers amongst grizzly baseball fanatics with testosterone stench, but I never meant you can be toxic.  😉 

LanaBanana
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Haha, no hard feelings and I try to hide my toxicity.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Because unfortunately Fletch is a shell of his former self and has been for some time. The Angels needed his 40 man roster spot and with their monetary commitment to him there was no threat of losing him.

Watching him run, I still dont think hes healthy and I believe what ever lingering effects he has from the hip issue have impacted every aspect of his game including his hitting. Also, contributing to his problems, his unorthodox approach of hitting has been exploited by opposing pitchers and defenses making him even more a liability on the roster.

This is not Perry hates Fletch thing. Perry extended him with that ill advised contract so this is a bad reflection on him as much as Fletch if Fletch continues to falter

LanaBanana
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Alrighty then 😬

FungoAle
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Along with the student managers and coaches we have, Angels also won in-spite of horrible defense.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Agreed. I have missed Urshela terribly.

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Haselman is awful. Full stop.

Last edited 9 months ago by Jimmuscomp
smithy610
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Nevin could definitely improve his in-game strategies more.

Moniak is not Kendrys Morales. There was no need to take him out in that situation. And I know he took out Rengifo because he was going to bat LH against RHP Pressly, but…hot hands.

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

In 2019, he stole 18 bases between two minor league stops. He’s just fine as a baserunner, and definitely was not worth the lineup downgrades replacing Moniak required.

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Yes, the Angels won last night depsite Nevin, certainly not because of him …

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

it was a DPV (Despite Phillip Victory). It is certainly not the first one of the year by any stretch of the imagination.

FungoAle
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Seriously weird stuff I witnessed. The Squid for Moniak move was so damn odd. Bunting down by 3. There was more.

Looking forward to an entire new coaching staff and GM. Sweep out the barn after Ohtani leaves.

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I forgot about the bunt. Nevin has no idea what he’s doing.

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Houaton buttercupped themselves with that throwing error and the routine DP to end the game.

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 months ago

SS – Neto
DH – Ohtani
CF – Moniak
LF – Ward
3B – Moose
C – Thaiss
RF – Renfroe
1B – Cabbage
2B – Stafanic

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Alternate scenario is that Rengifo starts either at one of these spots – probably either 2B or RF.

Moose and Ward are heating up so Phil keeps those two in the lineup either way.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Papa smurf will be getting a start somewhere tonight provided hes not hurt .

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I agree. Rengifo has 3 for 6 with 1 BB against Javier. The question is how Nevin is going to ‘hide’ Rengifo defensively.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Thaiss has 2 for 5 with 1 double against Javier and Sho is 6 for 19 with 2 HR and 2 triple.

smithy610
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I’m not opposed to Ward and Renfroe playing tonight. They haven’t hit well against Javier, but they’re also the hot hands. And with a team as desperate and thin as the Angels, they can’t afford not to ride the hot hands at this point.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

You were almost perfect in your prediction, sir!

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

It would have been perfection If only he wasn’t blinded by the Fifo

DowningDude
Legend
9 months ago

The Neto home run had a funny fan catch the ball… I memorialized it in this gif:
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Tampa Bay Times is reporting that the Rays will “check in” on Ohtani.

That’s one franchise a GM should never trade with. They are wicked baseball smart.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

I read MLBTR touching on that:
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/al-east-notes-rays-mullins-mountcastle-romano.html

While the club certainly has the pieces necessary to swing a deal for Ohtani between a farm system that ranks 8th in MLB per Fangraphs, and a deep group of position players at the big league level, Topkin cautions that the Rays are highly unlikely to enter a bidding war for Ohtani as the club wouldn’t be able to retain the superstar in free agency. Between that unwillingness to beat out other potential suitors like the Yankees and Dodgers for Ohtani and the considerable chance that the Angels don’t move him at all, as they’re currently sitting just one game under .500 and five games back of a Wild Card berth, Ohtani in a Rays uniform certainly seems unlikely.

The language would have been quite different and toxic, had the Angels lost that thriller last night.

Last edited 9 months ago by Kiyotchan
steelgolf
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I love this!!!!

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Lol. You’d think dude made the last out in a Bananas game. It wasn’t even a “real” HR catch. It just sort of plopped into his glove softly after taking a big bounce…

Last edited 9 months ago by JackFrost
Twebur
Legend
9 months ago

Should be an interesting ESPN broadcast tonight. I’ll set the over/under “Shohei’s name mentioned” at 1001 times during the game. Nothing better than further exposing the shame and embarrassment of being an Angel fan on national TV.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

The word Wasted will also be mentioned 1000 times (and not in the good way)

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Can I parlay Over and Over?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

Thanks to Cowboy 26 who has reminded us how much Neto’s contribution was missed to the Angels while he was on IL

Remarkable statistics when Neto plays: 32W-25L

During the time he was absent (Jun 15-Jul 13): 7W-14L

Out of Neto’s 25 RBI:

Driven in by Ohtani 7, Self 7, Moniak 3, Trout 3
Drove in Self 7, Rengifo 5, Thaiss 4, Drury 3

I am ok with Neto being in the leadoff spot for now especially in advance of Sho. I also like Moniak in the clean up role.

Last edited 9 months ago by Kiyotchan
FungoAle
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Neto was starting to hit for power when he got injured, big loss. He and Urshela. Rendon? IDFC.

smithy610
Super Member
9 months ago

The thrilling comeback continued a stretch in which the Angels hitters have actually done a good job of filling in for injured middle-of-the-order hitters like Mike Trout, Brandon Drury and Anthony Rendon.

During the first six games of the losing streak, the Angels had scored 4.2 runs per game, but the problem was they allowed 8.5 runs per game.

https://www.ocregister.com/2023/07/15/angels-overcome-6-run-deficit-to-snap-losing-streak-beat-astros-in-10th/

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Since 6/24 when the Angels beat Colorado 25-1, the team has a record of 4 wins and 11 losses (including yesterday’s thrilling victory).

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago

That 25-1 win was not a good thing for this team …

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

They normally aren’t.

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Like the blowout last year with Rendon’s left-handed home run against a position player

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

I keep wondering why Rendon and his two HR’s continues to be mentioned in the same sentence with Trout and Drury.

tanana40
Super Member
9 months ago

If we can score 13 runs a game, this team is going places!

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

We may at least play 500 baseball

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago

We’ve clearly been wasting Trout’s, Ohtani’s and Rengifo’s prime……

DowningDude
Legend
9 months ago

And Rendon

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

You bait me, DowningDude. 😀 

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Let’s admit it ML, thats really easy to do.

jcstein
Trusted Member
9 months ago

Tonight was the first time in a long time that I’ve seen anything that looks like urgency from the Angels

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Looks like she bought Enron stock….

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago

the reason why I firmly believe that Perry wont get the axe this year even if we dont make the playoffs is :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvSXGsKjxnA

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago

Ward now slashing .357/.455/.607 in 8 July games.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I am glad he is not in the lead off spot any more. I think Nevin has finally learned that.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Unfortunately we dont have a true lead off hitter.

HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
Trusted Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Feels like the days of the true lead off hitter are gone. Can’t think of a prototypical one anywhere really.

Last edited 9 months ago by HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

The only one I can think of is Steven Kwan, who was a player that Gritcho-Sensei thought Angels should have drafted in 2018.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Yeah but he didnt claim that until 2020.

max
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max
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

 😁 

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  max

Could have had him in 2018. Whose fault is this?
https://twitter.com/CleGuardians/status/1680651718009278464

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago

I’d take a Brian Downing type if we had one. Just need a high OBP guy. Shohei is the only one on the roster right now

Last edited 9 months ago by Cowboy26
Simba
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9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Rendone may be the closest thing we have to a prototypical lead off. No pop, sees a lot of pitches, gets a lot of walks. Assuming he can get on the field, of course.

FungoAle
Super Member
9 months ago

I think you’re right. Got washed out by the Sabermetrics launch angles. Miss Rickey Henderson and Lenny Dykstra

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 months ago

Moniak would be fine, but we actually need his bat all over the lineup.

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Moniak did okay there … His BA was quite good for the majority of the time he was there, and in addition he usually was not overly aggressive — he was willing to take a few pitches, which as you know is important when hitting in that slot.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

For now, Neto/Ohtani/Ward/Moniak will not change in my humble opinion. Ohtani needs protection, and I know Nevin likes alternating right and left. I also appreciated that Thaiss was patient and battled off some tough pitches after 2 strike count and earned two timely walks.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I think you are right here Mr Chan.

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Yeah, Thaiss has generally improved his approach as a hitter…

And I do understand the point about Ohtani protection and the need for a real threat at clean-up. I don’t really disagree either…With both Trout and Drury out it kinda forces that move …

I was just sort of disputing Cowboy’s comment that we haven’t had anyone good at lead-off …..

Last edited 9 months ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Now I’m hurt Frostie.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Thaiss has really played himself into a position moving forward. I was ready to give up on him before the season (no position to play, couldn’t make it at catcher), and was dreading the lack of Stassi (as bad as that is), but he has really come through. O’Hoppe and Thaiss means we have catcher locked down for a bit, imho.

Twebur
Legend
9 months ago

Definitely a nice surprise…but unfortunately trAdition mandates it will be short-lived. Next year (what happened to, remember when – Th’ice) will be all the rage complaints. See Herget and Rengafo from last year. Hope I’m wrong. Give him full credit for a true grit factor.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Rengifo had a good end of last season, but wasn’t given a starting spot this year. Herget was good, but dropped as soon as he stopped performing.

Thaiss will get a chance at back up catcher. Key is that we don’t need to rely on him moving forward, and he won’t be the starter even. We still have O’Hoppe coming back, Stassi on the payroll, Wallach to back up and Quero in the wings. Just happy Thaiss is finding a stride and hope it continues.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Ok yes with only a .300 OBP and a .852 OPS. But he is absolutely destroying the ball with a .463 OBP and an eye popping 1.334!!! OPS batting in every other spot in the line up.

Lets leave Mickey in the middle. He’s sooo fine.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

For goodness sakes trade him now.

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
9 months ago

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago

Why is he rubbing that green blob on his face, and what the hell?

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
9 months ago

Cabbage

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago

Thanks for ‘splaining

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago

But he only has to do it 3 times

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

So you’re saying he’s deriving a little too much pleasure rubbing cabbage to his face?

Twebur
Legend
9 months ago

He’s making a slaw…that’s how KFC does it.
And you should see how they make the gravy.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

So thats how they make it Finger Lickin’ Good.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
9 months ago

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DowningDude
Legend
9 months ago

Yessssss

max
Trusted Member
max
9 months ago

ha ha, no lol

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago

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smithy610
Super Member
9 months ago

17 Ks AND 13 RUNS!!!

Only the Angels

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

 😆