Phil Nevin thinks both Carlos Estevez and Brandon Drury have strong cases to make the All Star Game. Estevez may still get in. Will Shohei Ohtani pass Aaron Judge’s home run record? Maybe.
Clayton Kershaw is now on the injured list.
Archie Bradley’s still in the game! The Marlins just outrighted him.
The Marlins placed Jazz Chisholm Jr. back on the IL with an oblique injury. They’ll select the contract of infielder/outfielder Dane Myers. The Mets traded for Chris Flexen and Trevor Gott and then immediately designated Flexen for assignment. They just designated Zach Muckenhirn for assignment. Niko Goodrum just opted out of the minor league deal he had with the Red Sox.
That didn’t take long. Jahmai Jones just signed with the Brewers. He’s going directly to their 26 man roster. The Nationals just signed Daniel Mengden to a minor league contract. Alek Manoah just struck out ten guys in a AA start. At least it wasn’t the Trash Pandas.
Another former player passed away.
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
🎉 💥 🌟 Happy 4th of July to all and yours. 🍦 🍔 🍉
BTW, happy 4th of July to all you MoFos. Even to the one’s
annoyed by my excessively positive Angels opinions. Haha
😔 Can’t have nice things
No answer yet on surgery per Bollinger.
What kind of surgery for Bollinger? Spine? Because I’m in favor of it
From Wikipedia and we all know who is an avid golfer…could it have been weakened?
The hamate bone is the bone most commonly fractured when a golfer hits the ground hard with a golf club on the downswing or a hockey player hits the ice with a slap shot.
It’s much more likely over work in the cage, considering he was in that slump
Hmmm…yes.
Or from punching the wall out of frustration.
One question…is the Axe Handle bat legal in MLB?.
Yes. Mookie Betts uses one, and Dustin Pedroia used to.
Trout has a left hamate fracture and is out for 6-8 weeks. 🙁
Take the time off and analyze your swing, Mike Trout, and come back like a starving piranha.
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This.
If we use last season as a barometer, Trout will come back for the final 35 games and hit 20 homers and bat .300+
Hopefully they can stay in contention until then..::
8 weeks means “August 29th”. We might be a very different team by then
4-8 weeks out, something that for him will possibly be the 8 weeks. Who was surprised by this, we were all just waiting for the Ka-Boom with Mike Trout.
The top 7 pre-season farm systems are all from teams currently contending. It will be irresponsible not to trade Shohei at this point. How would he look on the Orioles, Reds, Indians or D-Backs?
I know it’s not the root of all our problems and I know that there probably isn’t a reductive “root” to why we just can’t seem to win. But I hope this teams sells to a very progressive ownership group that conducts experiments and invests in player development more than ever before. I also hope we trade Ohtani before the deadline rather than let him walk. After this last decade of having once in a lifetime talent but no playoff wins I feel confident that, at least for me, I’d rather have a roster of less recognized players who make it deep in the playoffs. You may counter that we could have unrecognizable players and still be losers and that’s true, but why not try something different. It’s not like what we’re doing is working. And yes, im ok trading potentially the best player who played the game.
We already are.
And it’s not the ‘traded Babe Ruth’ narrative. In Ruth’s day the teams owned the player and the relative cost was minimal. Adjusted for inflation Ruth never made more than $800,000 per season.
It is not the same analysis with free agency. A player that will cost $50+ million per season is rationally tradable no matter how good of a player.
My first ever autobiography I read when I was 10 years old in Japan was “Babe Ruth.” I remember reading that Yankees told Babe he couldn’t get a raise in his salary because it would be insulting to the President if Babe made more money than the Commander in Chief. Did that really happen? Was that embellished?
I hate that I was right. Ticker during Yankees/Orioles says Trout put on 10 day IL with left hamate fracture.
You were quite astute by watching how Trout shook his left hand after the fateful swing last night. I thought exactly the same.
What is the sense of calling up Adell if you are not going to start him, Nevin?
https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1676309443661942784
Phil is just like Soth. He hates rookies and young players.
Loves the vets and caters to them regardless of how they’re peforming.
Like Neto?
Like Moniak.
There was a clear need at ss that couldn’t be well filled any other way ..
What is the point of starting Velazquez if you want to win?
you can’t be chasing wins every day
😂 Have the proof with that statement that he is in over his head.
That saying is just going to last all year+
I would have preferred to see a demotion of either Ward and/or Renfroe to facilitate AB’s for Adell instead of Trout breaking his wrist (I know, duh) but I’m excited about the opportunity for Adell nonetheless.
This dude has really filled out physically from 2021 to now and it’s very noticeable.
He’s definitely a Plus Athlete and the time is nigh to see if he can carry his weight in The Show.
I think he’s a 40+ homer / 180 strike out player, the burning question is wether he can will bat .250 or stay mired around .200…….
And how many runs he will give up playing the outfield.
Hopefully his AAA defensive workouts have had a positive impact on his play in the grass.
Probably not anymore than Escobar at 2B.
It’s time to play Adell full-time,
come what may.
Gerardo Reyes in place of Victor Mederos
https://twitter.com/LAAngelsPR/status/1676301670928756736
Wow who would have predicted those moves?
Another “not ready for prime time” player
Hamate bone is connected to the Tommy John bone.
The Tommy John bone is connected to the hip bone
From December 5, 2002.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-dec-05-sp-erstad5-story.html
So Trouts a wimp?
Ersty homered in the WS with a broken one of those
Unfortunately, I got blocked by paywall of LA Times, but I assume Mr Erstad continued to play despite fractured hamate bone.
The hand anatomy is quite intricate with networks of smaller capacity arteries and veins and almost microscopic roots of nerve endings almost always intertwined with the arterioles. Depending on the location of fractured piece, the degree of pain will pain from +1 to +11 in a scale of 10.
Surgery, if they decide to go with this option, almost always involves the removal of broken piece and fusing hamate to the adjoining bone, usually the pisiform. Trivia question: Do you know how many bones compose a wrist?
Brother, I implore you to not give
a cent to the LA
Slimes. Those propagandists along with NY
Slimes and almost every other outlet
have done continuous damage to our country for a century.
(Rant concluded)
What you said Banned!!!!!!!!!!
Fat dudes take longer to heel and heal
Per Alden Gonzales:
Hamate bone fracture confirmed. Trout is out at least 4 weeks.
Yep. Jo Adell, right now is your chance, your shot at making a difference and kick starting your career in the MLB.
Yeah I’m not convinced but I hope I’m wrong
Should have brought up Nelson Rada.
Let The Process begin!
Someone needs to tell Phillip is this.
I hope Perry gets a lot of value back when we trade Shohei
I know Phillies 2022 were in NL, but they were 46-41 at 87th game. We still have reasonable chance compared to Mets. Mets were 3.5 GM behind Braves before June, and they are 18.5 GM behind Braves after June. Mets spent whopping $380MM and will pay additional $108MM as tax.
The AL is stronger than the NL.
There will be a series between Rays and Braves, which will give some indications to who is better, but overall, yes, I agree that AL teams are better than NL teams overall.
Cowboy 26 suggested to me to look up Braves 2021, and I was flabbergasted.
Braves 2021 at 45-42 after 87 games and eventually won the whole f’cking thing.
Should have happened a year ago.
With the Mike Trout era likely ending – is it time for the team to start planning for the future? Is it time to accept a championship is highly unlikely during his tenure and shift gears to a longer perspective? A rebuild focusing on young players and building up the minor leagues? I could definitely make the argument. I think the next 21 games will be the tale of the tape.
open your eyes We are already are ’71
Did they trade Ohtani? Renfroe? Drury? Sandoval? Did I miss something?
I copied and pasted the followings and will do so as necessary for the remainder of the day.
I know Phillies 2022 were in NL, but they were 46-41 at 87th game. We still have reasonable chance compared to Mets. Mets were 3.5 GM behind Braves before June, and they are 18.5 GM behind Braves after June. Mets spent whopping $380MM and will pay additional $108MM as tax.
Go look at the 2021 Braves
Braves 2021 at 45-42 after 87 games and eventually won the whole f’cking thing. Thank you for the info, and I will adjust my copy and paste accordingly.
They won the whole thing even though an injury knocked out their best player, Ronald Acuna.
Wow, he suffered ACL injury in July of that year. Amazing. He will most likely win NL MVP this year. People are saying that he is fortunate that he is playing in NL. Shohei’s AL MVP odds at -1500, also unprecedented by any athlete of American major sports at half point of the season.
Why do you keep pasting the same post over and over?
Apparently you did. unless you think that Perry has a magic machine that will continually shit out golden prospects galore upon your command.
Perry is already utilizing the assets of the farm system to rebuild this team on the fly ( Neto, O’Hoppe, Moniak. Adell Sandoval, Detmers Canning, Soriano to name a good core) and will continue to do so as the fruits of our international signings come on line with more astute drafting in the next 2 years. Why do we need to tear down the roster just so you can enjoy 110 loss seasons and embrace the glory of playing many average prospects at every position?
I’m sure Perry will trade any chips of interest such as Renfroe and Devenski if he can get something of better value back in return but Why would you trade Estevez Drury and Sandoval considering how very reasonably cost controlled they are over the next few years?
I dont think building a winner has to be the binary decision of either big FA old guy payroll or “The Process” but if You want to go back to the egg that may or may not ever hatch thats your obsession not mine and thankfully, not Arte’s.
I’m to old for that shit
You were younger 9 seasons ago. Since then the status quo has not worked. They may have not lost 110 games – but maybe they should have from a draft pick standpoint. I think I’d rather lose 110 than 89. For the long term it’s probably better to do a rebuild and hopefully Arte divests and a real baseball operation comes into power.
By the way, I truly hope Perry doesn’t make some desperate moves and trade away the youth movement for a couple bandaids at the trade deadline.
9 seasons ago we had an Owner, an influential manager and multiple GMs that perpetuated a substandard drafting , international and minor league development program.
Today that is certainly NOT the case. I can’t go back in time and certainly do not want to relive it but there is no reason to ignorantly cling onto a binary system of success although I’m sure you are now yearning for the new found wonder days of the D backs, Marlins and Reds.
Open your eyes, The Doyers are proving this case right now
Dodgers are positioning themselves to offer Ohtani a massive deal.
Good because that proves my point that we dont have to do a tear down to be competitive.
I’m glad I could straighten you out there.
I believe this is your verbose way of say that you support Perry.
I know I certainly do. I think his approach has been mostly positive.
I sure hope so.
We could not win consistently with Trout and Ohtani in the lineup over the last 5 years, why does 21 more games matter?
It’s always something with this franchise. All this wasted time. Make best offer to Ohtani. If he declines, blow it all up with extreme prejudice.
I copied and pasted the followings and I will do so multiple times today.
I know Phillies 2022 were in NL, but they were 46-41 at 87th game. We still have reasonable chance compared to Mets. Mets were 3.5 GM behind Braves before June, and they are 18.5 GM behind Braves after June. Mets spent whopping $380MM and will pay additional $108MM as tax.
The 1973 New York Mets finished 82–79) and the worst record ever for a World Series champion. So yes, anything is possible. Being possible does not mean it’s probable.
But Mr Chan is right a mediocre record team at the ASB has made to the World Series twice in the last 2 years . it can happen this year as well.
Okay, I won’t piss in his corn flakes. He can keep his dream alive that the 2023 Angels have the magic to not only make the playoffs but win a series or three.
I revert back to that I am Shohei-therefore-Angels fan. I am only focusing on this season, unlike true, genuine Angels fan like you. So, I will keep on dreaming until Angels are mathematically eliminated. But, I promise you I will cheer as hard as any of you long time Angels fans.
Then you are not a true Angels fan which requires suffering and disappointment! 😂 Enjoy the bandwagon and hopefully you will enjoy posting next year for whatever team you are rooting for.
This is my 52nd season rooting for the Angels. So I’ll just say you have not come close to suffering.
Of course he hasn’t, but that’s not his benchmark and I respect his honesty.
Who the hell wants to be a bitter Angels fan like us?
I’m from LA
and I CHOSE
this sh*t. I’m probably the biggest masochist here. FML.
I’m just saying that being an Ohtani fan is different than being a fan of the Angels. I am all for his rose-colored-glasses approach and will miss it next year when he is rooting for another team.
Japanese newspaper sports section discussed Trout’s injury and how it would affect Shohei’s chance of accomplishing triple crown because Shohei lost the best protection. I thought the article was really insulting to Trout and Angels’ fans. Shohei himself doesn’t care about his individual accolades and he has steadfastly requested to be left alone to concentrate on contributing to the Angels.
I have written a letter of complaint and forwarded to Nikkan Sports newspaper that the written piece was extremely lacking in international neutral attitude they should’ve maintained.
Fair enough bro and I respect it. You’re entirely upfront about where your loyalties lie
and I get it.
Frankly, if Shohei signs elsewhere, I’ll root for him.
Baseball needs
him on the Big Stage.
21 games to trade deadline. That’s the only relevance.
Can you tease
this out a bit more? The Trout era is ending in terms of him being a “great player” entirely or do you think he leaves the Angels in some manner soon?
I mean the era of him being an elite player. He is not really tradable so I believe he will remain an Angel for the rest of his career. But to count on him as elite and bring in free agents to attempt to win a championship with him may not be a supportable strategy anymore.
Got it. I agree and it breaks my cynical heart. I’ll always be a Mike Trout Stan.
Always.
The Mike Trout era is nowhere near close to ending as he is signed for many years to come.
Of course – what I mean is the era of him as an elite player where the focus is his ‘window’ and the need to win now for him. I could see the argument for a rebuild at this point with Trout and Rendon being the only non-tradable veterans given their contracts.
I don’t know whether Jeff Fletcher is a wise guy, nice guy, or click bait seeking guy. I know what kind Sammy is.
https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1676294939813236737
Jo will smash the ball
and there’s Shohei Ohtani
it will be alright
“Smash” – this is what all the Russian & Dagastani fighters say in MMA. It sounds hilarious.
“The house of delusions is cheap to build but drafty to live in.”
Adell is on his way or probably already here since I dont know the flight schedules from Reno to San Diego
I would live to see the Angels give Trey Cabbage a shot with his LHB mixture of power and speed but I don’t see that happening yet.
I suspect there is at least one other reliever is on his way as well to the Whales Vagina considering the amount of pitches thrown by Bachman and the total ineffectiveness of Mederos. Right now these are our only RP options on the 40 man not with the team:
Gerardo Reyes
Andrew Wantz
Jimmy Herget
Kolton Ingram
Zach Weiss
Wantz and Ingram were just sent down for good reason so even though with an injury they can be called back up I dont see it. Herget is still sucking at the Great Salt Lake so that leaves Weiss & Reyes. Reyes was pretty unspectacular in his one inning of work here but has done pretty good in AAA even lately. Zach Weiss who is having the best run of all of the relievers lately even though hes had 2 lackluster appearances at the big league level this year. So expect to see one or both of these pitchers .
The only other pitcher currently on the 40 man that is not with the club or is not injured is Chase Silseth but I think the Angels believe he needs to work on his game at the minor league level. The Angels could call up a non rostered starter like Mederos or Bachman were but I think they’ve pretty much exhausted their minor league talent and Im not sure they want to experiment with another AA call up right now.
Jo Adell was 2 for 4 with HR yesterday against Tacoma Rainers. SLC Bees are supposed to have a home game against Sacramento today. So, I don’t know what flight he would take today because he probably would have been on flight to SLC by the time Trout’s injury occurred. It probably does not matter since if he is called today, he has a plenty of time to reach San Diego. There are usually lots of empty seats on 4th of July.
Cabbage was DH, hitting 3-run HR yesterday, by the way.
More importantly Adell has walked 9 times in his last 6 games while only striking out 5 times.
If he has finally figured out the strike zone look out. he’ll be unstoppable even if his defense will be an adventure.
Where in batting order would you place Adell? Behind Sho and before Rendon?
Bottom third initially.
Drury is returning soon, that will help.
I was thinking of Adell providing protection for Shohei, who has been IBB’d a lot lately. I cannot think of anyone else for that role on this roster. (Not Renfroe, not Moose, not Escobar). San Diego is not familiar with Adell, who would give air of X-factor, thereby increasing their chance of engaging with Shohei.
San Diego is very aware of Adell who ironically got the game winning hit against Mr. Snell back at Petco in September 8th of 2021. (by far Packy Naughton’s best pitched game of his lackluster major League career) only to blast a monster homer the next night against Daniel Hudson in a losing cause.
And Mickey Moniak, originally from San Diego, got recalled to Phillies because of that. That’s the mystical connection. I still stick with Adell in 3 hole.
I was at the game
last night and a Padre fan next to me asked me how Moniak is doing. I told him that he’s essentially a high level platoon player that was a STEAL for the club.
The earliest Drury can return is right after the all star but theres been total radio silence since putting him on the IL.
I could see the Angels batting him higher in the lineup before Drury’s return since most everyone outside of Shohei and Rendon has some allergic reaction to RBI’s . He batted 6th in his only game this year with Drury and Gio batting ahead of him. So I could see the Angels putting in the 5 hole but no lower than 6th.
With our Drury and Neto this lineup really suffers but against a RHP (like tonight) I could see:
Moniak CF
Ward LF
Ohtani DH
Rendon 3B
Thaiss C
Adell RF
Moustakas 1B
Escobar or Rengifo 2B
Fletcher SS
I will give my shot.
Moniak CF
Ohtani DH/P
Adell RF
Rendon 3B
Moose 1B
Ward LF
Fletch 2B
Wallach C
Velazquez SS
Let’s go Angels! Get that close game win this afternoon.