LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Jared Walsh

Jared Walsh is the LA Angels nominee for the Roberto Clemente Award. Let’s hope he comes back OK from thoracic outlet surgery. The impending free agent first base options range from bad to expensive to expensively bad.

Jose Quintana might get a chance on Wednesday to clinch the National League Central for the Cardinals. The Reds placed Art Warren on the 60 day IL. He had a UCL related surgery but there was no ligament replacement. Kris Bryant is done for the season with plantar fasciitis and a bone bruise. The Diamondbacks optioned Alek Thomas down to Triple-A Reno. The Pirates designated Michael Chavis and Greg Allen for assignment.

The Red Sox are officially eliminated from playoff contention.

Adult violence at high school football games is not just a Texas thing anymore. This video is from Orange County.

The San Francisco Giants have several Analyst openings available.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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BannedInLA
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2 months ago

Fletcher is being paid like a starter and he’s perfectly fine if he’s your 8th or 9th hitter.

Unfortunately, the Angles are holding far too many shares in the ‘0.190 hitter’ category, so Fletch is the team’s 4th or 5th best hitter. He’s also an excellent defender.

Besides, a top shelf 2B or SS will cost a lot as well. Are you thinking big like Correa or Turner?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  BannedInLA

I’m thinking 45M payroll with Livan Soto starting at SS next year.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

Here we go once again, it seems you all want the Angels to spend big on a first baseman. Jared Walsh played injured this past season. No that does not mean he should not platoon at 1b, but he really is good, check that, very good when healthy. I do admire a player playing when dinged, stepping up to be counted. Like a lot of you I have seen my share of Baseball and I have seen some great fielding 1b. Wes Parker, Steve Garvey, Keith Hernandez, J.T. Snow, Darrin Erstad, but Walsh maybe the best I have ever seen. His hitting will return, and he also fits the budget very well. We need a catcher and a good fielding Outfielder. If we lose Shohei we need 2 starters. In the last 6 months I have seen posted that we need a 2b and to make Fletcher a UTL player, Rengifo needs to start next season, and that Squid should be DFA’d. Now Walsh needs replacing, then I missed the OK to increase spending as attendance falls.

There is only one way up and that is through trading for youth and drafting youth. Rengifo is great trade folder coming off what could be his “career year” and working the system to rebuild. I somehow do not see payroll going higher unless it is for Ohtani.

We can win with pitching and defense with the offense we have currently with a defensive catcher that can hit .250.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago

who’s y’all?

Cuz all I want is for the Angels to spend big on a new OWNER.

Angels2020Champs
Super Member
2 months ago

Did I hear that right on AM830, we are around 30k fans per game so under 2.5 million for the season (what’s ‘reported’ anyway)??

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 months ago

Attendance stats are fake. Trust your eyes. It looks like 18k most nights Ohtani doesn’t start.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

They’re fake, but not that fake. We don’t have to be “chick on a podcast panel” about it where the counter to any statement is “not necessarily….”. All teams count “attendance” the same way every year. So it’s always the same animal even if said animal is 30% fat. The Angels attendance, even with Ohtani Fever, is very much down. If that down number still includes unused tickets that will show up in merch/beer/food/parking sales and it’ll hurt.

Though, other than a raging case of seeping schadenfreude, who gives a shit? The billion dollars that cheap Arte has wasted on players who tucked their balls as soon as they got the bag and the obvious financial hits from Covid and now a suck ass team drawing no one (plus who wants to build a stadium now?) has worked and he’s selling.

Arte is the ultimate example for the other owners. TV contract? Sure. Major city? Yup. Star power? Sure. Make a side real estate play? OK. But you will eventually take a serious financial beating unless you go full Bob Nutting or you put a team on the field that wins at some point. He hasn’t, people stopped spending, we didn’t need to keen and bitch about this all day everyday because the capitalism jungle always kills the weak and injured…. and that’s Arte at this point.

Which actually brings up a fear o mine. If I’m an owner it makes sense to “seven year plan” my ownership when I buy a team. Buy it, pump a ton of money into it, win or not people will be excited for 2-3 years as we will at least compete. Design new unis and hats and sell the shit out of them. Spend NOTHING on a new stadium, that’s some other sucker’s problem. Also don’t spend much on the farm. Slowly let that star power payroll dwindle. Pay a cellar dweller roster 60M a year for a couple years and just collect revenue sharing money. Over the 7 years of ownership the team appreciates in value by 750M and I’ve sucked up the initial excitement money, the money that still rolls in as excitement fades, and then the money I can make being a “cheap” owner. Works for me.

I hope we don’t get that, but it’s pretty much the perfect plan to make bank on a “second fiddle” team in a major market.

AnAngelsFan
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2 months ago

What is reported as attendance is actually “tickets distributed,” so it includes all the season ticket holders that couldn’t sell their tickets but didn’t show up to the game as well as any free tickets given away that weren’t used.

tanana40
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Well, that is unexpected and exciting.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

This is bad. Somebody needs to tell the kid to steer clear of Max Mendoza before the bad MoJo wears off on him https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1574897160658640896

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

Completely agree.

Also, this is what we’re resorting to. Excited about a probably not ready for the bright lights of a prospect. Haha

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Harrr burdy burr nah talon an no goo Starzi alzurr nah goo ah gant Artay sizdem!

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

last I heard he was going to SLC so this is….surprising.

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yikes, I hope this isn’t rushing him up and messing up his development, a la Marsh, Adell, Silseth, etc

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Marsh hitting .297.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Quad A BABY!

Trout_is_my_Bestie
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

.297 in the 104 plate appearances with the Phillies. For the year he is hitting .244 with OBP under .300

So still not great, but definitely trending in the right direction.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

It doesn’t appear that the team has any intent to play him since he’s on the taxi squad and they would have to open up a spot on the 40 man.

But sitting in a major league dugout for the last week and half of the season cannot be a bad thing. provided they keep the Maxi pad away from him.

max
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max
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Does that burn one year of options and make FA come one year sooner?

ihearhowie3.0
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Taxi squad. Not on the roster, just there to meet players and get acclimated so he hits the ground running in Spring Training.

Simba
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2 months ago

Someone decided the Angels under Arte was worth a 25 minute youtube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFnA3q9jAMc

Mia
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Mia
2 months ago
Reply to  Simba

Who are we to judge. We all decided the Angels under Arte was worth 3 hours of our day for 162 days a year. Lol

GrandpaBaseball
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2 months ago
Reply to  Simba

Brought back a lot of memories that’s for sure. Being an Angels Fan ain’t for sissy’s.

2002heaven
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2 months ago

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Yes great players at this position matter not 2B (David Fletcher)
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

Is that Kool n The Gang’s horn section?

Do paint chips crunch when you eat them?

steelgolf
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2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

🤏🤏🤏🤏🤏🤏🤏🤏

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

At least it wasn’t Kyle Seager and Jeffrey “the douche” Lunhow

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

I’m new, but I’m missing the punch line here?

Not a Fletcher fan?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  BannedInLA

Syphilis. Hell of a drug

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Does anyone remember that Derek Falvey and Thad Levine are supposed to be an FO powerhouse that we must all envy the shit out of? I do. Honestly, I envied the Reds having Nick Krall. Chiam Bloom? Jed Hoyer? Billy Beane and Dave Forst (who I actually hope we go get if Newownerz hires a POBO)? Michael Hill? Dayton Moore? Jon Daniels? Mike Hazen? Farhan Zaidi?

There’s a ton of POBO type magic out there totally keeping owners and marketing departments at bay so they can win the shit out of baseball. That means there are more tons of mere GM talent out, ready to assume completely different duties from the ones they currently have and guarantee RESULTS! The magic. It’s just a phone call away.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

I do not disagree with your enthusiasm for proven talent coming to SoCal but turning this team around can only be done with youth. (imho) Trout, Rendon, and hopefully Shohei, puts us behind the eight ball with payroll. PTP still is not on the firing line just yet, but he inherited an impossible task, and he has done well considering the IL time that has plagued this team for 3-4 years now and even longer with the pitching staff. I’m still like Perry but even I am wondering what if. It would be fun if everyone stayed relatively healthy for one season.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 months ago

yes, it would be interesting to see what Perry could do with an extra $90 mil like Eppler has. But since it won’t happen, no sense in pursuing the thought

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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It’s gonna be nervous/exciting to see what starts happening come early Nov. If Andrew, from within Arte, has taken a break from focusing solely on billboards, per caps, strippers, cocaine and Trump he may have talked to some interested parties about selling the team by then.

If so, he/they will have a sense of which form of evil they should engage in to make CtPG complain and prospective buyers happy. Commit well over 100M a year to 3 players by trying to extend Ohtani to be AMAZBALLS! for three more years yet pay him for 10? Or tear down the whole team as much as possible and try to get a payroll that is lower than what Max Scherzer makes in a year?

Either way Anthony Rendon is smarter, more talented, cooler, richer and better looking than all of us.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Charles Sutton

See, I am tired of all this empty yellow talk about cheapness while we have a 190M payroll. I want COMMITMENT! I want to see some true dedication to real cheapness and contract avoidance. I want an owner who won’t pay for pitching… or hitting… or defense. At least for now. Let’s get a 50M payroll going! Let’s really give give CtPG what they deserve and give cheapness a chance in 2023.

My name is Eatabagodix and I endorse this message.

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Basically going back to the days of my youth when the Angels ownership considered us a small (maybe mid) market team. No thanks.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2GA2Join

How about if they call themselves a massive market team but still totally gut the payroll?

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Can I counter, and suggest we call ourselves a micro-market team but spend $300MM on payroll?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2GA2Join

That’s silly.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Jackie Autry’s mantra.. “lower payroll… higher prices… ” And the Angels were in the running, thanks to Jackie’s “helpful” suggestions, to be contracted/merged with the Expos.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Well her Mantra to “build from within” ultimately led to our only World Series Championship.

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
2GA2Join
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I totally agree… we were kind of like the A’s, Rays, etc.

Build up totally from within, and once in a while you capture lightning in a bottle and everyone is young and good at the same time and you win something. Then 2 years later when all those good players want money, you deal them to the Yankees or Red Sox for prospects. Because no way can you sign them back.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

After game 7, I thought about how close the Angels came to being contracted, and wanted to puke when they trotted her out for the trophy presentation. Bill Bavasi? You bet, he never got credit while Stonedman was taking all the bows.

BannedInLA
Member
2 months ago

I’m all for going with option one. Swing for the fences with Ohtani & Trout now.

Sign Jose Abreu at IB, sign similar veterans with a track record of consistency at C and LF.

I’m fairly comfortable with our SP, though one more proven arm here would be wise and then go BP heavy to round it out.

If the team is in legit contention by early July, go ahead and trade for ace level SP for the 2nd half push.

That’s a zillion “what ifs”, but if the chips land right and that stud Rendon makes a come back, it would be a ton of fun….

Last edited 2 months ago by BannedInLA
Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 months ago

I had a dream last night. Mike Trout’s grand slam in the 8th made it 13-2 and gave him 10 RBIs for the game.

That’s probably the highlight of the season for me since we were 24-13. It was a good dream.

One funny thing about it is that I didn’t dream the conclusion so I don’t know if the bullpen held the lead.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
2 months ago

A few weeks ago I had a – believe it or not – non-fever dream: I checked in on the Angels game and they were down 6-0 in the 3rd inning. Later, I checked to see how bad the loss was and found we ended up winning 68-6. I wanted to see the box score, but dreams don’t allow me (or most people, according to dream research) to rationally check sources. I assumed Trout and Ohtani each had at least 3 HRs. In the dream I thought, “Well, I have to watch SportsCenter tonight.” ‘Cuz I usually don’t. Almost never these days.

Huh. Dreams: maybe it’s all we got as Halos fans.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MikeSalmon

Rainbows: What are they all about?

Angels2020Champs
Super Member
2 months ago

Nice body slam (funny how over aggressive security et al get taking down someone that runs onto the field). I was at the Chargers game last weekend when someone (on a $100k bet, I would’ve taken it!) ran across the south end zone.

BannedInLA
Member
2 months ago

Re: 1B – We simply can’t go into next season under the assumption that Walsh is “the guy”.

I would prefer Jose Abreu due to his proven consistency and we could certainly use a .300 hitter in this lineup. Moreover, he’s an American League lifer which should translate well in Anaheim.

Now let’s figure out LF and Catcher…

Last edited 2 months ago by BannedInLA
Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

teams in limbo don’t sign free agents

BannedInLA
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Just trying to have fun, man !!!

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Vehemently agree. Walsh is a nice guy, nice story being such a late round pick but we have too many players who struggle to put the ball in play and his splits are f-ugly. While banning the shift might help slightly, cannot rely on his offensive contributions. Someone in this flawed organization needs to make some bold moves here.

LF – 1000%. Perry whiffed on this last year. This position along with 1st, equally as poor.
C – Need to find a stop gap catcher to bridge to O’Hoppe/Quero. Stassi to the pine and put some glue on his seat.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Jesus Aguilar would make a nice platoon partner for Walsh… trouble is if we have him, Rendon, Trout all healthy someone’s gonna need some DH at bats…..

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Stassi is the guy unless either Taylor Ward or Matt Thaiss can ever learn how to catch, even though both guys were catchers in college………BTW we also have the worst coaching and player development (Maybe if new LAUSD President Alberto Carvalho can succeed in reducing that district’s dropout rate to under 30% then maybe we should hire him to be our new farm system director!!!). Not completely sold on Taylor Ward either, to me he stinks like a guy who’s having a Cinderella career year….just like the aforementioned Max Stassi from a year ago!!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

Looks like Taylor Wards OPS+ has gone up every year… so we should probably use your method and test that Cinderella shit out by not playing him at all and see what happens.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 months ago

He’s not a AS, he is what he is which is a pedestrian level .240 something hitter and a lousy fielder for sure. Somehow Nick Castellanos was a dolt (good hitter, but bad fielder) and yet Taylor is a slice of heaven to you. Sorry Arte cult follower.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Are you a AS(S)? Because your comments sure give that impression.

Taylor Ward is what his record says he is which is an age 28 MLB outfielder who came into the season with less than 500 MLB at bats but is now slashing .272/.357/.458 in 459 AB’s this season while making the league minimum. This is what happens when players finally understand hitting major league pitching

Lets compare that to your love child Nicky C who is now 30 years old but only batting 265/.305/.397 this season while pulling down a salary of $20,000,000 (Year 1 of an $80 Million investment) .

I know you’re not very good at math but even you know that Taylor Ward is a steal compared to all your other outfield postings.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

This is an unintelligent comment.

I burned some child hair on my alter to Andrarte and he told me to give you a way to actually look at what the guy you are talking about does…. here.

Nick Castellanos can also be found on that same website.

BannedInLA
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Even if Ward is merely a .250-260 / 15-18 HR guy per season, his OBP is really solid and he’s vastly better than Adell, Marsh, etc. He can also back-up LF/CF. Solid baseball player IMO.

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BannedInLA
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

1B – Walsh is also coming back from injury. My guess is that he peaked in 2021. Give Abreu or Bell as a 2nd option. Spend the money on a reliable producer.

LF – We’re lucky that Ward as arrived because the plan was to have Adell & Walsh as corner starters. Ward was regarded as a 4th at best this time last year.

Again, a proven vet here as well. Take your pick.

C – Ditto. I might self immolate if we go with Stassi & TBD washed veteran at catcher for 2023.

I have no idea what to think about O’Hoppe at this point. Our plans should not hinge on any unproven prospects.

Next year is of paramount importance if we want to retain Ohtani, which I do.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  BannedInLA

Wow, sign the best player available for the most money. Shocking plan. I would prefer tear it all down. I would like Colin Moran on a 1M deal. I would also like him to be among the most expensive players on the team. I’m willing to root for a bomb crater for a year if it spells a true reboot. I will also enjoy watching CtPG experience what they have asked for over and over again. Joy is a constantly flowing stream.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 months ago

They already have dood.
Didn’t Perry and Billy both bring up our hapless young farm prospects and saw them crash and burn over a cliff? 2020 Jo Adell who couldn’t catch a beachball covered with “Stickum” Griffin Canning’s arm fell off like the Zombie commercial…..WE SUCK AT FARM SISTEM……
BTW Polar Bear Petey leading the NL in RBI’s, Yep we thought he sucked too.
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

We thought Alonso sucked? Source?

Also, yes, just using our entire AAA roster as an MLB roster next year would work for me too as long as we get most of our current 25 man off the books to do it.

Oh. “SOURCE” means a place where you can show us you got the information that you are sharing so we can feel confident you’re not a tool.

red floyd
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2 months ago

so we can feel confident you’re not a tool.

Good luck with that.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Anuthir CTPG 80%er with Stockholm’s for the owner, hey Roger Lodge comes on soon!!!

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Tooting Glue again Toots?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

Stockholm. Pretty women. Good music scene. Sure, fine. Why does it eat at you so bad that Arte’s so much better than you in every possible way? I bet he even pees better than you. Why not just accept that Arte’s not that great, but he dwarfs you, and move along?

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

WTF is CTPG?

2002heaven
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

That…. is a link… and LOL. Do you still not know how to post those things?

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Did he p* $$ his pants?

BannedInLA
Member
2 months ago

Missing the point.

So long as the Angels are in the Trout (31) and Ohtani (28) business, they should he obligated to “go for it” every year by spending accordingly.

Particularly when our farm system has been a crater for such an extended period.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  BannedInLA

“They should be obligated” losses me from the get go. Especially if the “obligated” is something stupid like just spending more money.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
2 months ago

The elimination of the Red Sox also brings the Orioles to 3.5 games behind Mariners. The gap is closing.

Mariners got to play their last 20 games against the 5 teams in the AL with the worst records. They went 3-7 in the first 10. If they go 3-7 in the next 10 there is a small chance they will be eliminated. Of course, that requires the O’s to finish the sweep of the Sox and take both series from the Yankees and Blue Jays.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

With Suarez and Julio out their offense has sputtered. Suarez will be back this week, so I have to believe with their pitching another 3-7 run is highly unlikely.

Incidentally the Orioles didnt help their self going 5-5 in their last 10 . That ain’t going to cut it if they have any chance of overtaking the sinking shipmen.

RexFregosi
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

the collapse in latte town will be epic!