LA Angels Monday News Crash: Rotational Exercises

Mike Trout visited a top spine specialist who gave him some good news. He needs to do some rotational exercises, but as soon as his rotation is OK he can begin taking batting practice. Reid Detmers had an immaculate inning over the weekend. Jimmy Herget is back and Chase Silseth was optioned to AAA. Sonny Dichiara is having a smashing time as a Trash Panda. Shohei Ohtani weighs in on the great hamburger controversy. The Dodgers have checked in with the Angels concerning a Shohei Ohtani trade. It still doesn’t seem likely.

The Angels Followed their rather terrible game Friday with an offensive explosion on Saturday.

The Seattle Mariners landed Luis Castillo late on Friday. While they obviously want to win now, they have a bunch of guys hovering around the injured list. That could prove inconvenient. They are still throwing at batters.

The Brewers will activate Freddy Peralta from the 60 day injured list this week. Mackenzie Gore of the Padres will be out probably until September with inflammation in his throwing elbow.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

The Dodgers are in on Juan Soto. They are also in on Marlins starter Pablo López. Fully expect LA to land Soto. That will push Bellinger out of LA. Dude went Hollywood like Matt Kemp. I’m liking Pablo Lopez. LA – Astros series again.

Make sense. Cardinals dropped their pursuit on Ohtani to land Jose Quintana.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Totally If I ain’t getting the Japanese Babe Ruth, my plan B has to be Carlos Quintana.

Last edited 1 month ago by Cowboy26
WallyChuckChili
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’d definitely take a Black Magic Woman

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

Well his true friends call him Carlos but we all know him as Jose . Not sure if Quintana knows Santana though

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

JP Morosi

“Noah Syndergaard trade becoming more likely, sources say; Blue Jays, Phillies and Braves involved in talks over past 48 hours.”

Let’s get Biggio.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  FungoAle

Will take more than Thor to get Biggio

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

Agree but maybe Perry can ask his old club for a favor cuz he will get shit-canned soon if he doesn’t impress the CtPG faithful.

I actually think Jeff did a SIM on this trade as the Angels were getting Biggio.

Last edited 1 month ago by FungoAle
Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

Cavan sucks and his Dads too old

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Let’s get Bichette

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Now that will clearly take more than Syndergaard. Won’t happen.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Biggio sucks

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

Needs a change of scenery and it’s Thor whose beyond help. I’m just happy he gets traded.

smithy610
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Rumors are that Raisel is included in the Blue Jays talks for Syndergaard

Last edited 1 month ago by smithy610
Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Source?

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

ITZAUHPINYUN…….
Not evirybuddy has to work for Jefff Puhzan at ESPN……
Mayebee you should uhceptthat forr wunce!!!!!
 💪  💪  💪  💪  💪 

Last edited 1 month ago by 2002heaven
Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
1 month ago

All of the many “Trade Ohtani” boners are now flaccid. Noone would’ve been happy if Shohei was traded. We would’ve never rec’d adequate compensation.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Well the Euphoria wouldn’t have last more than 24 hours thats for sure.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

I just don’t see a scenario where the Angels keep him long term and are able to be competitive.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

The Ohtani situation will leave everyone unhappy. If he is traded, the franchise will not receive equivalent talent in return. If Ohtani does not re-sign and exits at the end of 2023 season, it’s a loss that will never be overcome. If Ohtani does re-sign, the franchise will have two of the greatest players of this generation that play on teams that struggle to achieve winning records.

I know this is an unpopular take as some believe retaining Ohtani solves a problem. That’s okay – I want to believe too.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 month ago

You’ve used a bunch of words here to say absolutely nothing of value.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  rosstrade

You’re still here?

2002heaven
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1 month ago

BREAKING NEWZ!!!!
Jim Hill KCBS SAYS he won’t be traded AND I WAS RIGHT YET AGAIN~~~
PIECE OF CAKE………LIKE CALCULUS EQUATIONS FOR WILL HUNTING……..
 💪  💪  💪  🤘 

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

THEN maybe we should just trade Squid Velazquez and ho[e we get adequate compensation

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
1 month ago

What? Matt Joyce retired?

Perry couldn’t convince him to come back to us for depth?

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I was surprised that he was still in the league.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

We just drafted his son, Ben, so time to ReJoyce

Last edited 1 month ago by Cowboy26
GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago

So Arte keeps Ohtani for multiple reasons, money is the only one really, but here is the rub. If the Angels are ever going to compete ever again to make the playoffs, he now has to spend money and a lot of it if he is smart. Not that he ever did many smart things since purchasing the team, but now he has to allow PTP to fill the holes with legit players. No more Wade’s, Duffy’s, Goslin’s, Mayfield’s, Suzuki’s, or Villar’s. If he makes anybody who is GM fill in with the Sluggo variety, then not only is he Stupid and Cheap, but senile is also appropriate. If this team does not make significant improvements them Shohei or not the Angels attendance will seriously suffer along with huge drops in Radio and TV ratings.

clover_black
Trusted Member
1 month ago

The time to not fill in the MI with duffys and velazquezes was this year. so expect more of the same.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  clover_black

I think that you are right, but with Ohtani not resigned, then the time has come for this off season to be critical as time has been forced upon him to do the right thing. He might consider even selling the team and call it quits.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

…..he now has to spend money and a lot of it if he is smart. Not that he ever did many smart things since purchasing the team,….

Sigh…So quickly they forget.

November 24, 2003 Signed Kelvin Escobar $47,250,000/6 years
December 10, 2003 Signed Bartolo Colon $51,000,000/4 years
December 20, 2003 Signed Jose Guillen $9,700,0000/3 years
January 14, 2004 Signed Vladimir Guerrero $82,000,000/6 years

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

Breaking.

Perry is trading in his 2019 BMW and $25,000 cash for a new Mercedes.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Fansince1971

Did he consummate the deal at Del Taco on Katella?

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

Yes. He had to throw in 3 tacos and a burrito. But he got it done

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago

As you all know, I (we) hate the Skanks, yet I’m happy to report that they are currently thrashing the Mariners, 6-2 after 4. I hate the Mariners fans as much as I hate the Skank fans…maybe even more because their team head hunts, then they whine about getting hit in the keister. They refused to blame Wanker for heading to our dugout. They refuse to believe Servais orders his pitchers to buzz Trout, to bean Altuve. Ooooooo…I hate ’em!!

So I’m enjoying the Ms lack of success, first against the Cheaters and now against the Skanks.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

I’d still rather see the Yankees lose

nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I guess for me I don’t mind the Mariners. Tier 0.5 is Astros. Tier 1 Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 month ago

What pieces of the scrapheap might make some sense to add? Gallo? Fan favorite Phillips?
On a side note, I love the haul that the Brewers got for Hader. Mark this now, the Lamet throw in piece is going to make the Brewers win that trade.

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Not sure if Lamet is a “throw in” even now. It wasn’t long ago that he was near untouchable and it took his arm basically falling off for him to become a tradeable piece, even. If he lasts long enough, he’ll be something, but that’s a big if.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Damn 240 comments already. Flashbacks to the prime Halosheaven days…tears in the eyes

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Considering today doesn’t exist, it might be a record for days on the calendar that aren’t really there

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Ah yes the Haloscyon days

Brent
Trusted Member
1 month ago

They’re really gonna keep the entire band together?

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

They’re pulling a Rockies…

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

Isn’t the deadline tomorrow?

“This year’s MLB trade deadline will pass at 6 p.m. ET on Tuesday, Aug. 2.”

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

yes. There’s tonight and tomorrow. Thor will get us our 2nd round pick back. But I wish he’d tell Perry “hey, offer me $10 mil and I’m in”

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

I think Thor will get us a prospect in the 12 to 15 range in a good farm system. No way we get a more significant prospect. Thor is t that good

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

Thor? Then what is he good for?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Cowboy26

Absolutely nuttin’- say it again

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

I think we might be able to squeeze a 7-10 rank guy if we kick in $7M to the new team.

Signing Syndergaard turned out to be a flawed acquisition. Not that good and lost a second round draft pick (when the team already had a crappy farm). Organizational malpractice.

The matter was further compounded when Perry failed to plug all the middle infield holes on the roster and committed to two unproven OFs, Heckle and Jeckle. Team never had a chance.

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I was really hoping for Stroman. I know he didn’t dominate this season, but I figured he was a decent pitcher and didn’t cost a draft pick. Or Rodon (wow, that would have turned out nicely). I agree that signing Thor, even at the time, was a real head-scratcher.

Brent
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

The calendar messed me up with it being 8AM on the 2nd here locally.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

So what MLB news will we hear by tomorrow morning then?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Cowboy26

Arte is still evil, the Astros and Yanks are stronger, and Soto is buying a palatial estate in San Diego

Brent
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Angels sign Kurt Suzuki to new 8 year, $163 mi contract

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Brent

That’s Baseball Executive of the Year stuff

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

And he had 5 minutes to decide if he’d take it?

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

Are you that guy that calls other time zones completely clueless to local time?

Brent
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I stop calling people back home while over here. Lot less stress dealing with my… unique parents.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  DowningDude

“We don’t need no stinkin’ deadline”

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Pham going …. somewhere…..

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

I thought for sure Thor would be traded…

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

there’s still 23 1/2 hrs to go. Maybe Perry will do something extreme

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

Common guys there’s still time. Why so mopey? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKrLfpdN4vY

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

True. But I haven’t even seen a whisper about a potential anything involving us.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Mia

Other than Trout and Ohtani, we ain’t got nuttin’ worth trading for

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Thor retained should net us something halfway decent no? Loup and Tepera…prolly need to wait another year and a bounce back for actual prospects and not 26 year old AAers

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

The only reason he wouldn’t be is if they extended him and I can’t imagine he would do that.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

he’s been busy trading Ohtani

sources say he will bring a bigger return

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I guess I really don’t follow the NL as closely, because I had never heard of Austin Riley…

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Coach Pat’s kid? 😂

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  2GA2Join

You mean Joan Rivers and Austin Powers surrogacy spawn?

James
Trusted Member
1 month ago

The team is a dumpster fire. They need to make some moves and build this team back up starting now. Quit embracing mediocrity Angels jeez

Halo71
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  James

I wish they were that good

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Halo71

Yep. Embracing mediocrity is a huge step up from embracing the suck

James
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Sorry for sounding negative

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  James

Was agreeing with you. 😎👍

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  James

They’re trying to be like the Rockies and just sit there during the deadline

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Jayman28

Duh. Thats what mountains do.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  James

They need to make moves?

Why, just so you’re not bored. ?

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

He’s not entirely wrong. Even a personnel change would suffice. Doing nothing would subject the fan base to medieval torture.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

It seems he was talking about players, not management.

If he said or meant management I would be all on board.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago

fitting that on the day that didn’t exist we don’t have a game. Still waiting to see what Perry does.

max
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max
1 month ago

Can’t gut the lineup if there is no game. *taps temple with finger

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago

Wonder if we’d have better luck if our GM was William “The Refrigerator” Perry?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

alternatives: Perry Como, Perry White, Perry Mason

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago

us kids like Luke Perry and Katie Perry

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I’d rather have the Commodore.

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Lionel Richie?

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Ha. You’re funny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_C._Perry

But I think he was also in Friends

red floyd
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Unfortunately, Admiral Perry just died, after giving the anti-Kaylon device to the Krill and the Moclans.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  red floyd

Traitor

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Coulda been him:. Also a Commodore Perry.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Hazard_Perry

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Cowboy26

Commodore 64?

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Which one?

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Mariners just scooped up Villar.
He will be LDS MVP.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

He’s not just waiver wire trash…he is Angel waiver wire trash.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Smells like desperation.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

The rare subtraction by addition move.

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Yes – possible MVP of Mormonism …can become an elder and stuff

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Man we really should have kept Joe Smith.

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

A true LDS MVP right there

red floyd
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Are you saying Perry did a little too much LDS back in the ’60s?

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DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  red floyd

Yes – a dyslexic druggie

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Or, it could be that the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) made him a bit crazy. Which would be understandable

red floyd
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I miss Alias.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  red floyd

I miss Toga parties

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Dominos starting to fall

Angels2020Champs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Like?

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Mancini, Montas

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2GA2Join

This just in…. yes, we are pretty sure the Yankees have bought this year’s World Series. Asshole fans everywhere can rejoice as though they had anything to do with this monster payroll winning a single game.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I really liked Mancini as an affordable option for the Halos. Much more consistent than Walsh with the bat.

Last edited 1 month ago by FungoAle
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  FungoAle

Yeah. Signing him and trading Ohtani makes our Corner OF/1B/DH mix Trout (I moved him), Ward, Walsh, Mancini.

Not horrible at all.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

I’m not running it back with Walsh next year, just can’t. Great guy but…just can’t. In fact, I think the Angels looked into acquiring Mancini as a right handed compliment to Walsh or was it Voit? But Mancini should play everyday. I bet he will do good and resign with the Astro’s on the mutual option for $10M.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

“I just can’t.” Lol.

You say that like it is your responsibility to decide.

Fortunately it is not your decision, lol.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

We already have a right handed compliment in AA. He’s Thicc with talent.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I wonder if that tank will be a Prince Fielder or Mo Vaughn type of hitter

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Cowboy26

He’s played what 2 or 3 MiLB games and he’s been anointed as talented?

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Where’s Jeff Biggs to pimp him as “MVP Material”

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I just can’t either. Hopefully Jared gets coached better and makes adjustments this/next year

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Yeah, you may remember Angels were thinking of a platoon in spring training. I.e. the failed Upton experiment, former dirt bag, Duffy, Ward….etc. how about we get a full time run producer?

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

You’re right, Wal-Mart sells them in the Dollar bin. Are we going to get a better First Baseman making his same money that fields like him. Do you think maybe a SS or back up at third or OF or another starter or Catcher or even BP help might be better options to consider?

smithy610
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I’m not a very technical person when it comes to batting, but it seems that Jared pushed hard for power this season. I really hope some tinkering (ala-Taylor Ward pre-injury, or Chris Taylor) helps him get back on track. He fills a need and he’s cheap. His defense is still top-notch (at least according to the eye test).He doesn’t have to be a power hitter. Leave that to Shohei. He’s best when he’s hitting singles and doubles with runners on base.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

I am not sure I agree that he has been “trying for power” in 2022, but I do agree that he is at his best hitting the ball back up the middle and the other way. Last season he showed great power to LCF and RCF. This was the result of solid contact and good mechanics…

Really, Walsh’s swing is that of a line-drive hitter. The HR numbers are in a sense accidental or just luxus. This is why I would not give up on Walsh. His swing is solid. Not sure what the main issue is this year, but my guess is just a down year. It would have been very hard to duplicate last season anyway.

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Three times better?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Cowboy26

Three times a lady

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

This is good news. It looks like Perry has done another good job implementing his draft strategy now we just need to find player development success. https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1554168087372386305

Does any one else find it ironic though that the only player we didn’t sign from our 2022 draft is a JC catcher from Puerto Rico?

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Need all the talent we can get.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Failed to sign 14th round JC Catcher…. Perry is obviously out of his depth and is just a sock puppet, filled with Arte’s dark and evil fist.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 month ago

If we only had a POBO… 😂

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Marcotor

It’s true. See, the POBO would have used his vastly different skill set and job duties, along with his ability to act completely outside the knowledge and input of the owner, to look into Sabin’s soul and offer him his deepest desire… or his greatest fear. A mere General Manager can’t do that.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Since the start of 2004, the Angels have had a top-10 Opening Day payroll every single year. This season, the team is on pace to miss the playoffs for the 12th time in 13 years.

if the franchise wants to change the outcome, they must change the players, process, and methods.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago

So…everything.

Sounds about right tbh.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

River. Side. Meth. Savages.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 month ago

New band name!

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago

need to be Top 3.

i mean, if we want to win a championship

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Historically, top 3 payroll does not equal championships. While the Yankees have spent more than any other team over the last 20 seasons, it did give them a great W-L record (best overall in that span), but not a lot of Championships.

In fact, over that 20 season span the highest payroll equated into only 3 championships. If you add top 3 to the equation, 6 Teams out of 20 won the WS (33ish% of Championships went to the top 3 spenders). Hmm.. top 3 are 6-14, maybe there’s something to it.

Unless of course your speaking of Western Division Championships (great for dick swinging quotes like “we fly flags”) as winning championships.

Which, I highly doubt you are 🙂

Year Team
*2021 Braves 11th
2020 Dodgers 1st
*2019 Nationals 4th
2018 Red Sox 1st
*2017 Astros 12th
*2016 Cubs 4th
*2015 Royals 12th
*2014 Giants 10th
2013 Red Sox 3rd
*2012 Giants 8th
*2011 Cardinals 11th
*2010 Giants 10th
2009 Yankees 1st
*2008 Phillies 14th
2007 Red Sox 2nd
*2006 Cardinals 11th
*2005 White Sox 13th
2004 Red Sox 2nd
*2003 Marlins 25th
*2002 Angels 15th

Last edited 1 month ago by Marcotor
Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Marcotor

So let me see if I understand: the team with good pitching, good hitting and got hot during the playoffs has the best chance to win it all?

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago

You catch on quick 😅 

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago

The team with “good pitching” and “good hitting” does not need to “get hot.” They are just good, lol.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Marcotor

You better not show this to Arte.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  RexFregosi

…and we don’t

Dogface1956
Member
1 month ago

Let me see if I understand you, correctly we have missed the playoffs 12 times in the last 13 years with a top ten payroll and you are saying this is not the desired outcome, correct? Maybe it’s working out just like Artie planned it?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Dogface1956

It is. The evil…. it’s goals…. they are not our goals….

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Dogface1956

I’m not sure there’s ever been a plan. We just flail from extreme to extreme

Dogface1956
Member
1 month ago

Maybe we need to just turn the page, it worked before.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Perry fielding offers now feels like it was an easy way to determine Ohtani’s trade value for a future trade.

The Angels have to know that Ohtani doesn’t want to remain a Halo.

By fielding offers, the Angles also know this was going to alienate Ohtani further.

It sure feels as though the Angels are preparing to trade Ohtani down the road….

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  rosstrade

The silence from the front office is the scary part. You would think if they weren’t shopping him, somebody would come out and say these reports were BS.

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

meh. too much talking and a whole other group says “what a bunch of idiots showing their hand!”

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Except it’s not. Also what is the long term goal with Ohtani? If it’s to extend him (hopefully), you definitely quash the rumors before people ask him about it (oops, too late). If it is to trade him, then might as well do it now and prepare for another massive L from the front office.

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Any way it shakes out it’s a massive L. trÅdition

clover_black
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

They’re shopping him. Also, I don’t think a deal is dead just because Heyman, who is used constantly as leverage, comes out and says it.. Sure this might go on throughout the offseason, but something might materialize by tomorrow.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  clover_black

I hope not 😐

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  clover_black

Agree. The only thing predictable about Arte and the boys is being unpredictable

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  clover_black

I don’t think they are shopping him, never have been. But they are listening to offers. If some team comes around, say the White Sox, and offers Dylan Cease and Luis Robert plus 4 solid prospects for him…. yeah, they may take that.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I don’t want him to go, but if the Mets are serious, something around Alvarez and Beaty +, their top 2 prospects that play positions we desperately need, would be interesting.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  GonFishin

yah, I’d take that.

Rallymanatee
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Our FO under Arte has always played their cards close to their chest. Nothing new here. As fans, we’re just as much in the dark as everyone else. That leads to a whole lot of hand wringing and wild speculation until something finally happens. Same thing happened before Trout’s big deal happened. Only difference is Ohtani doesn’t have the infamous wife whose family is on the east coast. Instead he has the mom who’s on the east east coast.

Oski_Bear
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

I don’t know. We didn’t rest Ohtani at all the past week like we did Thor. It seems to me they weren’t going to trade him all along. They were simply answering calls to find out what his trade value was – just doing their homework. Nothing wrong with that – no obligation to tell us fans anything until afterwards. At the end of the day they tell Ohtani he wasn’t going anywhere and all is good.

If they are going to sign him to an extension, they should figure out his street value. This process helped that a bit. His valuation is the toughest perhaps of all time, so some due diligence is needed.

However, if we fail to sign him AND fail to trade him next year, what a reflection of terrible mismanagement (unless we are challenging for a WS title…lol…).

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  GonFishin

There’s a REALLY REALLY wide space between listening to offers and shopping a player.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
1 month ago

How do you know that with this front office? In general, I would agree, but these guys do not get the benefit of the doubt from me:

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  GonFishin

If they were shopping him, calling around offering him in trades, it would have made news.

But hey, “You never know” is also great. It works for literally everything.

Oski_Bear
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Why would they not play Thor, but play Ohtani literally everyday if they were hoping for a boat load of players in a trade? That just seemed fishy all along

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