LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: It gets worse

Good morning Angels fans, how are you? Yeah, me too. Well, have some links, I guess.

Angels News

The Angels lost yesterday, despite walking a lot, the offense couldn’t cash in. Not that the pitching helped.

Not that we should expect any better, the Angels are running out of players to put out there. Only 3 starters are left from opening day.

Would explain this though, how each team does vs teams over and under .500.

Maybe the A’s suck as well?

Still, David Fletcher maybe shouldn’t be the leadoff guy. Yeah…

Luis Rengifo has some legal issues, great…

Any good news? Well, Trout is the Angels nominee for the Roberto Clemente award. Guess he had more time than usual to give back since he physically can’t be on the field. Full list for all of MLB.

Around Baseball

The Giants and Dodgers have clinched postseason berths. NL West crown is going down to the wire but they will finish at worst as the WC1… vs who? No one knows because the rest of the NL (besides the Brewers) are a hot mess.

Mariners get 2023 All Star Game. The place formerly known as Safeco is pretty nice.

Do pitching wins matter? Well, someone tried to do the math.

Hendricks is the ultra imposter

Ryan Braun is retiring. Wait I thought he already did that?

Cody Bellinger is bad. How bad is he? He may break the record for worst BA by a former MVP. That’s worse than no leg Pujols bad! Will he even make the playoff roster?

Who has the most Baseball Reference WAR for each uniform number? Well someone did the math.

People like smaller numbers confirm

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes.

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Fansince1971
Super Member
10 days ago

This team is a complete shit show. My goodness

James
Trusted Member
10 days ago

Trout expected not to return. Shocker

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  James

B bu bu but how will the press (and CTPG) be able to complain about “another wasted year of fantastic Troutball…” with veiled snuffles that he failed to sign back east if he barely played this year?

Oh, wait. We can all just start complaining that his contract is an albatross. Fantastic, that’s solved.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
10 days ago

Good Heavens how did all this season come about to end this way? What a mess. Well in 18 games this shit show comes to an end thankfully. Playoffs! Playoffs! Are you kidding me! Hey the first half of this season was fun but all the Band Aids and String and wire and glue couldn’t hold it all together. Maybe next year ( laughing out loud ).

Mia
Super Member
Mia
10 days ago

And there it is.

Adell to the 10-day.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Mia

…which means the next picture of Adell we’ll see is him in a full body cast. As for Trout, I’m beginning to wonder about if this injury will be a factor for the remainder of his playing days.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
10 days ago

like he’ll play 35 games a season? Could be.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Thinking more like he’ll be favoring the leg for a while, then it will cramp frequently, the inevitable scar tissue will form, and he’ll play his final years running like Kirk Gibson did with the Dodgers.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
10 days ago

Yup and win another MVP while leading us to victory in the World Series.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
10 days ago

Maybe Shohei becomes the CF and Trouty the DH.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Marsh in CF, then Shohei Trout will be in LF.

FungoAle
Super Member
10 days ago

Remember when we were all excited about Mike’s contract extension?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  FungoAle

Good times

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Mia

we have 18 games left!!!! not 3. 18!!!! Oh well. So personally, I’m left with Fletch, Shohei, Marsh, Walsh to be interested in. I hope everyone does well. I hope Goose, Rengifo, Gold Glove, whoever the pitcher might be all do well but I have no what’s it called? I’m just not excited about them. At this point in the season I have less interest but I’ll stick around “for just this inning” because Shohei will bat, or because Gump will bat.

It’s not a very good product now.

Twebur
Super Member
10 days ago

Fletch, Shohei, Marsh, Walsh……..93.4% certain that at least one or more will see the IL before the end of the season. So sad. Season can’t end soon enough.

Twebur
Super Member
10 days ago

Is Gene Watson Perry’s secret pitching guru? And why is this he already leaving?

https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1438222910653538306?s=20

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Twebur

Based on the results in 2021, he didn’t make much of a difference…..

2002heaven
Trusted Member
10 days ago

Maybe………it’s the fact that our minor league system doesn’t have much ability.
I mean all that low end slot money to higher draft picks like Will Wilson and Matt Thaiss catch up with you eventually. Close the book on You Know Who ( My favorite GM ) for not getting us any pitching talent before Reid Detmers ( he clearly isn’t ready ) and only Shohei Ohtani. Even Dan O’Brien wasn’t this damm bad 30 yrs ago. This Quantity over Quality ( see our 2018 draft at HH ) approach is killing us, especially since we have gawd awful player development ( worst in MLB in the 2010’s and not even close either ). 😭  😫 

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Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

He was KC’s college pitching guru and we drafted a ton of college pitchers. Hopefully his time here was short but productive.

Cowboy26
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I hope we try to replace him with someone competent (and stable). This is shit has gone on for way too long now.

FungoAle
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Honestly, I don’t know how to treat this news. Could be nothing or could be a bad sign. Since Perry’s hire, he’s done little to define any initiatives that he has put in place and help define his organizational structure. Maybe this guy Watson got homesick coupled with a promotion. Or, maybe he was given enough responsibility. It is odd to me that after 1-year, he bails.

JackFrost
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He saw the way things work with Arte and once he got it he said to himself silently “I’m out of here.”

Twebur
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

When he left KC to join the Angels, it sure didn’t sound temporary.

https://www.mlb.com/news/royals-scout-gene-watson-accepts-job-with-angels

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  JackFrost

Or he got on CTPG and was like, “what a bunch of f***ing assholes. they deserve this pitching staff.” and he bailed.

Or he misses tornados as long as we’re just making shit up.

JackFrost
Super Member
10 days ago

Relax dude. This is all in good fun.

Or at least it is supposed to be.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  JackFrost

I’m having fun.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
10 days ago

While charts like the wins v. over/under .500 teams are fun, they are highly volatile and of dubious value.

Let’s say the Angels win the next 2 games against CHW (currently 2-3 v. Angels). The Angels will then host the A’s (currently 12-4 v. Angels) for 3 games. If the A’s continue to trounce the Angels, they move straight to the right while the Angels move straight down to hold hands with Cleveland.

If instead, by some miracle, the Angels sweep the A’s, the Angels end up with a 75-74 record and suddenly become a .500 team. In this scenario, the Angels and A’s swap locations with the White Sox, making the White Sox the biggest pretender and putting the Angels and A’s on the outskirts of the wild card race. I question the value of any chart that would make a team (the A’s) look better by losing games.

Also, in the above scenario, the Astros (10-5 v the Angels) shoot off the top of the chart once the Angels become +.500, only to fall right back down when they inevitably push the Angels back below .500 in the upcoming 4-game series.

Also, how does the chart evaluate wins/losses against the Phillies (who are currently exactly .500)? Depending on whether the Phillies are considered above .500, below .500, or not counted at all, there would be some potentially big swings in the chart after every Philly game.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Twebur

Landover, MD is a septic tank, and it’s near a massive cesspool known as Washington DC (aka “Mordor”), so it’s not surprising that FedEx Field spews sewage.

JackFrost
Super Member
10 days ago

Calling it “Mordor” is very appropriate indeed.

Cowboy26
Super Member
10 days ago

Perry trying to make changes now offering minor leaguers free happy meals before each game. Arte and the Angels org still on the cutting edge.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2021-09-15/angels-minor-leagues-kieran-lovegrove-players-living-conditions

Last edited 10 days ago by Cowboy26
Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

that’s a phenomenal story. I’m adding it to the weekend links. Thanks.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Cowboy26

Lovegrove was spending $1,000 a week on alcohol? Whoa – that’s a professional drinking habit right there.

Good on Perry and Montgomery for taking action and following through to make improvements.

Last edited 10 days ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
2002heaven
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11 days ago

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2002heaven
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11 days ago

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Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

are you suggesting we should have signed Milwaukee? That we missed a good thing when we didn’t sign the town?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

I thought it was a “Wheaties” box idea

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

I would sign Milwaukee.

Simba
Member
10 days ago

Maybe he’s moving there?

Mikeal1st
Member
11 days ago

I’m afraid we get another free agent winter of asking, “Can he pitch?”.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Forging divorce papers and selling the property without your wife’s consent is really dumb, because it’s close to 100% certain your wife will find out and you will be caught. That said, there are a lot of dumb people in the world.

Falsely claiming that divorce papers were forged and property was sold without your consent is really greedy. It’s also really dumb, because the cops aren’t going to find enough evidence of forgery to make a case. That said, there are a lot of really greedy people in the world, and Venezuela has a history of corrupt cops that would take a payoff for false bribery charges.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
11 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Just another to let Rengifo try to catch on elsewhere.

toad2065
Member
11 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

This, PLEASE!

Twebur
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Without doing a head count, don’t we have a ton of Venezuelans in our organization?

League leader in violent deaths and kidnappings, one of the poorest countries, world class corruption, socialism, socialism, socialism. Sounds like a like great place with lots of stability, just like the Angels.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Very sad to see Venezuela crumble the way it has. Shortages of food, overages of poverty and corruption.

But let’s leave the socialism crack out, please.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

fox news is over there
if you hurry you can still catch l kudlow.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  2002heaven

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steelgolf
Super Member
11 days ago

What the hell happened to Cody Bellinger? Kid has too much talent to just fall off a cliff like that.

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

My favorite theory is the one where he stopped smoking in solidarity with his pregnant GF, which changes depth perception.

Twebur
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Ha! Classic glassy stoner eyes. I thought the Doyers could magically fix everything and everyone?

And somehow, eventually, he will find his way to the Angels. The last stop in his attempt to resurrect his career.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
11 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Even Kendrys Morales thinks his celebration shoulder injury was stupid.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Only 3 starters remain (in position players), but only one member of the rotation (Ohtani, on both lists, as per usual).

So, essentially our entire pitching staff has been revamped or injured this year. No wonder we aren’t in the playoffs (though I am still happy with the emergence of Sandoval, Suarez, etc.).

Fansince1971
Super Member
11 days ago

There are a lot more reasons than pitching as to why the Angels are not in the playoffs. But injuries to the pitching staff are certainly one of the reasons.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
11 days ago

A version of this happens every year. We and the Mets clearly have organizational problems managing pitchers.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
11 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

The starting rotation in 2020 was Bundy, Heaney, Canning, Ohtani, Andriese and Sandoval. Teheran and Suarez started on the IL. No starting pitcher ended up injured ‘for the season’. No one was demoted or cut (though maybe Andriese or Teheran deserved it).

Sure, most teams have injuries each year. It is not typical (even for the Angels) to have the entire rotation turn over.

red floyd
Super Member
11 days ago

Reminds me of 2003. I seem to recall a game in September when nobody on the starting lineup was on the opening day roster.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

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James
Trusted Member
10 days ago

Love the hair

2002heaven
Trusted Member
9 days ago

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