LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Catch and Release

The Angels traded Logan O’Hoppe and Chase Silseth to the Texas Rangers for infield prospect Angel Arredondo.

The Angels just released Alek Manoah. More on Alek Manoah. The Angels are reportedly interested in picking up a young catcher but lots and lots of people are looking for catchers this year.

In the “too obvious to pass up” department, Jimothy the Racoon is getting a minor league promotion night at Rocket City.

No Angels players were mentioned in this article about ten controllable bullpen trade candidates.

Giants infielder/outfielder Casey Schmitt had meniscus surgery and is likely done for the season. Byron Buxton went on the IL with right hip impingement.

The Rangers just released infielder Santiago Espinal. The Padres designated right-hander Matt Waldron for assignment. The Cubs just designated Andrew Wantz for assignment two days after he was called up. Left-hander Matt Krook elected free agency. So did Dennis Santana.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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MarineLayer
Legend
1 minute ago

Now that we’ve seen the less than inspiring return we got on our first trade, it makes me wonder what we can expect to get for Neto. After all, the guy is leading the league in strikeouts and errors. Do we really think we’re going to be able to extract Franklin Arias for that? I hope so but I doubt it.

MarineLayer
Legend
46 minutes ago

I said it yesterday and I say this again. Other than clearing space on the 40 man, I see no reason for this trade. I understand that O’Hoppe seems like a DFA at this point, but there are a lot of teams that might’ve paid more for Silseth than a 19 year old who really isn’t a top 30 prospect in either org, despite what Moz is claiming.

It’s a major takedown of Minasian, his crown jewel trade and the “best” pitcher from his pathetic all pitcher draft.

MarineLayer
Legend
39 minutes ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

To be fair, MLB pipeline listed this prospect at #27 in the Angels org.

MH252525
Super Member
29 minutes ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

and to be fair if a #27 prospect turns into a cost controlled reliever with an ERA+ of 150 and a great K rate then everyone and their grandmother would be thrilled. This is a salary dump because it saves Arte a little little bit of money right now and a bad one at that because Arredondo is a big nothing burger. And he’s either gaslighting us or incredibly stupid if he thinks this guy is one of our top 10 prospects.

MarineLayer
Legend
27 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

I completely agree with you. I’m frustrated with this trade too.

MH252525
Super Member
24 minutes ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I’m having flashbacks to the Vernon Wells trade. Not only was it bad but you realized that the person that made it had to have absolutely no baseball sense. Wells was only hitting well in Toronto a hitters park and outside of Toronto had completely Adell like numbers but was making as much money as anyone in the league and EVERYONE thought his contract was unmovable. Obviously this move isn’t as bad as that one, but no competent GM makes this move IMO which is why I’m fearing it’s just another 4 or 5 years until they get out from under whatever bad moves Moz is going to make.

MarineLayer
Legend
29 minutes ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

I agree. Makes sense for them. A weak return for us. The best way to look at this from Moz perspective is how little our players are valued by other teams.

Pineapple12
Legend
1 hour ago

Angels will be calling up relief prospect Luke Murphy this weekend — Murphy, 26, was a fourth-round pick in 2021 out of Vanderbilt who has allowed three earned runs in 38 innings this season with Double-A Rocket City

https://x.com/i/status/2082851127989866738

Texan44
Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I haven’t seen him pitch but his stats for this year look very good.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=murphy000luk

MarineLayer
Legend
45 minutes ago
Reply to  Texan44

I’m good with that, why not.

MarineLayer
Legend
35 minutes ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

It also supports the idea that they want to reset the 40 man with some of their more promising prospects.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 hour ago

For every situation in life, there’s an applicable quote from “The Hunt for Red October.” Yesterday’s trade reminded me of this one: “When he reached the New World, Cortez burned his ships. As a result his men were well motivated.”

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago

I agree with that. The trade was like a shot across the bow for the rest of the players. The message is the world is changing. O’Hoppe was the starting catcher for the last 4 years with no replacement on the roster, a great guy and good teammate who was well liked, and he’s gone. The message is that if they trade O’Hoppe, no one is safe.

Texan44
Member
59 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

My first thought was Suzuki. I have no idea if that is correct but his failure to hold players accountable for mistakes and bone headed plays might let him know that EVERYONE needs to perform. At least that is my hope.

RexFregosi
Legend
35 minutes ago
Reply to  Texan44

It’s an indictment of Suzuki that a young catcher couldn’t be helped at all.

MarineLayer
Legend
34 minutes ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

This is just one aspect of how bad Suzuki is.

smithy610
Super Member
33 minutes ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Kurt is making me miss both Brad Ausmus and Phil Nevin

Fansince1971
Legend
2 hours ago

This is a very VERY strange trade and when experienced people like Moz do things that seem strange to me my first thought is I may be missing something.

Why did it take Silseth to make this trade? I would have thought Texas would have traded an unranked Arrendando for the potential of O’Hoppe straight up. Texas wants a replacement at catcher. O’Hoppe has struggled in Anaheim but shown promise.

Why include Silseth if Texas insists on sweetening the deal beyond O’Hoppe? Silseth alone for Arredondo would arguably be an overpay.

So I’m fully confused.

Unless – could this be part of Moz’s plan to build a team of young players that come up the ranks together? Will we see Gridlinger and Arredondo playing in Anaheim in 2030 or 2031 after 3-4 years developing together? Maybe?

The only way this makes any sense is this is the first step in a true rebuild aiming for 3-5 years. But I would really like to see some big player development improvements to begin to see a potential for this plan.

Last edited 2 hours ago by Fansince1971
AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yup. With this debacle of a trade, Moz already has me missing Perry.

At this rate, with all of the work that Turk put into his trade scenarios, we aren’t getting anything of value.

Trades are bad, m’kay.

smithy610
Super Member
1 hour ago

Jeez, it’s just one trade of a bad catcher and middling reliever.

Let him trade for Juan Soto first in exchange for Bremner, Klassen, Rada, Guzman and Dana before anointing him as the next Perry.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  smithy610

Yep. Some are completely overreacting to what is a minor trade.

AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
54 minutes ago

It may have been a minor trade, but we lost a player of value with little to show for it. Why Silseth and not Suter or Farris?

Is this just a dump of Perry players? Inquiring minds need to know.

MH252525
Super Member
20 minutes ago

it shows he’s a moron. He traded a Major league quality pitcher and got back essentially no one. No one not affiliated with the Angels is saying this guy has anything more than a chance of being a bench player.

Pineapple12
Legend
8 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

Internet man calls accomplished baseball exec a moron because he traded future HOFer Chase Silseth (who I like a lot!).

Jesus Christ lol

MH252525
Super Member
2 minutes ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

So you like a guy a lot, he got traded for next to nothing, and that shows Moz knows what he’s doing? He was accomplished until he wasn’t. Notice he’s not still in St Louis!

Pineapple12
Legend
1 hour ago

I know you’re taking it upon yourself to troll everyone, but this is pure stupidity. Clearly, the man who ran the Cardinals’ baseball operations for two decades to a 1,521–1,291 record, a 100-win season, six 90+ win seasons, and one World Series title is inferior to the greatness of Perry.

Brilliant analysis and a great way to contribute to the conversation!

AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
57 minutes ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

As I’ve said many times, I am far more of a hockey guy than a baseball guy. I can work hockey trades and signings as well as all of you do baseball.

My responses of the trade are not just to troll, but are directly off of recent experience with what happened to the LA Kings. Last summer, they went and replaced their GM with a guy who had won multiple Stanley Cups and currently is in the Hockey Hall of Fame. His first two free agent signings last year set the team back years and put their defense behind the 8-ball because they are tight against the salary cap.

If the MLB had a salary cap, then I could actually understand a trade like this, the MLB doesn’t have one.

My point is that just because a GM was great for one team doesn’t mean that he’ll make the right decisions for his new team. I should be a little more patient, but I’m one of the few here that really rooted for Silseth and don’t like seeing him basically given away.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
55 minutes ago

Point is well taken. Seems like they could have made the trade without Silseth or got more in return

RexFregosi
Legend
39 minutes ago

Definitely a great analogy with Holland – he’s been a disaster for the Kings, but had a stellar resume.

Harry Dalton too back in the day. Admittedly he pulled off the greatest trade in MLB history but didn’t do much beyond that.

Pineapple12
Legend
34 seconds ago

Now you made an actual point! You don’t have to gaslight me into trying to think your original comment was anything close to this one lol

MH252525
Super Member
18 minutes ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

And Sciocia was great until he wasn’t. The game moves quick.

Texan44
Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

My take is the Angels have been starting a AAA or AA catcher. Why keep him? This is commonly called a “throw in”. Similar to Milwaukee taking McCullers off the hands of the Astros.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Texan44

Okay but why include Silseth (who is actually well above average) in exchange for an unknown single A player? Thats the confusing thing to me.

tanana40
Super Member
41 minutes ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Silseth is a little deceiving in that he gives up a lot of inherited runners. But I agree that that the trade was odd.

MarineLayer
Legend
38 minutes ago
Reply to  tanana40

He’s not great, but I think we could’ve gotten more.

MH252525
Super Member
14 minutes ago
Reply to  tanana40

and all the Angels pitchers are a little deceiving as in underrated because they play behind a defense that is easily one of the worst in the league. That is why we need to gauge guys like Silseth on fielding independent metrics and at those he’s pretty damn good.

tanana40
Super Member
44 minutes ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I found the trade bizarre like 71 says.

Pineapple12
Legend
2 hours ago

SELLERS

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smithy610
Super Member
2 hours ago

Considering O’Hoppe and maybe to a degree, even Silseth (there’s more rumors and projection re: Bachman and Zef) aren’t really on top of anyone’s (that we know of) to unload, it means a couple of things:

Moz is serious about burning this team to the ground and starting from zero.

OR

Moz will not do anything consequential and just “improve” on the fringes. Same stuff with Perry.

I hope it’s the former.

And btw, brutal takedown by Moz of O’Hoppe from last night. All that was missing was him mentioning him by actual name.

steelgolf
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  smithy610

I didn’t hear or read the takedown by MOEtimer regarding O’Hoppe.

smithy610
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  steelgolf

There’s a video on it on the Angels website. Summary is catching is very important because pitchers depend on them. And there’s two ways to look at catcher – defensive or offensive-minded. He implied Logan is neither. Wayne and Gubi also brought up how he had Yadi all those years in STL. Moz said it wasn’t just Yadi, they had other good ones who provided stability not just at the position itself, but also among the pitching staff.

Logan has been (or was) the full-time catcher of the Angels for 3 years now. And Moz essentially didn’t have a good assessment of him in his short time here. Also telling that instead of just optioning him to the minors (since they can do that) and letting him figure it out there, he opted to get rid of him completely. Which means Moz thinks he isn’t part of the Angels’ future.

RexFregosi
Legend
38 minutes ago
Reply to  steelgolf

SELL MOETIMER SELL!

Pineapple12
Legend
2 hours ago

Captain Mo

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Fans always overestimate the value of their players. 

O’Hoppe was bad offensively and defensively. He had regressed every year on the team. He is so bad that he wasn’t considered “organizational depth” on the worst team in baseball.

The trade involving O’Hoppe to wail and gnash teeth about is giving up Marsh. That will hurt for many years.

As for Silseth, he’s not a starter. He’s not a closer. He’s not a high leverage reliever. He’s a good relief pitcher that will add value to a team in their competitive window “now”. He’s wasted on a team like the Angels because we’re years away from completing.

This trade gets one empty Jack Daniel’s bottles from me. I dislike it not because of the players involved, but because we traded with a division rival and did not get an “overpay” in return. 

My trade philosophy remains: never trade with the in-town rivals or with Tampa Bay. Intradivision trades should only occur when we’re giving a fleecing – not receiving one.

We’ll see in 5 years or so how this trade worked out.

Fansince1971
Legend
2 hours ago

Watch O’Hoppe turn into an All-Star in Texas.

Pineapple12
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Then we’ll all be happy for him because he’s a good dude. Would be quite a shock however for the worst catcher in baseball to become an all-star

Fansince1971
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

The Angels Org is where good players with potential go to regress into 💩

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Fansince1971

That just as possible as O’Hoppe being unconditionally released.

He’s simply not that good.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

He may, but he was absolutely useless here. He had no value either offensively or defensively for the last 3 years.

smithy610
Super Member
34 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I didn’t have high hopes for him as a defensive whiz, but at least slash around .225-.230 with some 15 HRs by now. His power, which was probably the only thing good remaining on him, is completely sapped this season.

steelgolf
Legend
2 hours ago

I’m “meh” about this trade. Rangers wanted the bullpen arm of Silseth, they got him, The Angels get their young MILB lotto ticket that plays third and could become a useful piece. It sucks fir O’Hoppe as he just wasn’t getting it done, so he immediately got DFA’d by The Rangers, and although still collecting his 2.625M salary this year, that will certainly go down drastically next arbitration unless he turns it around in the Texas heat purgatory of The Rangers minor league system.

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