LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Lucchesi Still Around

The Angels signed Joey Lucchesi to a minor league contract and released both Hunter Strickland and Angel Perdomo. They reinstated Alek Manoah from the injured list and optioned Sam Aldegheri back down to Salt Lake. They called Manoah up to the big club.

Framber Valdez began serving a five game suspension last night. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess.

This is about the American League Cy Young race now that Skubal is out for a while. Jose Soriano got a mention, although they think he may be regressing. Here is the most recent Fangraphs Power Rankings. Spoiler alert: The Angels are number 30.

In other news, Carlos Correa is out for the season with a significant injury to his left ankle. Left-hander Matthew Boyd will undergo meniscus surgery. Gleyber Torres is on the IL with an oblique strain.

The Nationals signed right-hander Max Kranick. He had flexor tendon surgery last season so the physical was not a slam dunk. They put him on the 15 day IL right away. The Colorado Rockies signed right-hander Erasmo Ramirez to a minor league deal. Cionel Perez got his minor league deal with the Mets. The Braves designated outfielder Jose Azocar for assignment. The Athletics designated right-hander Tyler Ferguson for assignment. The Twins designated right-hander Christian Roa for assignment.

Ted Turner, former owner of the Braves, died at the age of 87.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Hah – here I’ve been shortchanging Nate Snead’s chances at starter conversion, and he goes and throws a no hitter against Spokane for six innings tonight. Six Ks, no walks, on only 58 pitches.

Have yourself a night, Nate!

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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Same story in Rancho tonight. Both Angels affiliates won their games 2-1 on a killer six inning outing from their starter.

Rancho didn’t hit a lick – just two well-timed knocks all night – but Dylan Jordan kept the Dodgers’ single-A club scoreless for six, struck out eight, and scattered three hits across his appearance.

Best games of the year for both prospects.

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago

Manoah is going to lead us to the (Broken) Promise Land!

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Like an Olympian with a torch to light the stadium flame!

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago

I just found out Romano signed with Colorado. Good.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

Will prob have better number there than here, even with the coors effect. Break it down for us TT

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

Few opps but has two saves at coors. Funny no matter what year you go to Romano has terrible numbers at yankee and angels stadiums.

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Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Haha – nobody wants to hear me defend Romano anymore. 🙂

That said, I expected him to land a job fairly quickly, as there’s still plenty under the hood that suggests a league average reliever is there, if he gets well enough past the elbow surgery, and his velo and command improve. He wasn’t especially homer prone before surgery.

Coors is a tough assignment though, and probably the hardest place for him to recuperate!

FungoAle
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1 month ago
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I thought Lorenzen going there would be ugly and it’s worse than ugly. Rockies had to be his only opportunity.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago

Baseball Trade Values is normally directionally accurate – maybe someone would want this blockbuster. Some teams want to tank, right?

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HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago

Ain’t nobody giving up value for Lowe – he’s going to have to go negative soon.

SD19
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1 month ago

Ooof. Reminds me of the old lady down the street from me that’s been trying to sell the same junk every week at a yard sale for years now

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  SD19

 😂  😂  😂  😂 

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago

Theory: EHC = Angels PR Dept

EHC
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EHC
1 month ago

You never know. I could be on the payroll – sent to spy on you guys. Nothing new to report sir – same old guys making the same old comments and complaints.
Good work EHC – keep Arte informed.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

Or you might have Mommy’s phone and need to give it back to her.

angelsown3417
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1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

I don’t know how you can be so critical of some of us being doomers and highly critical of the Angels. They have constantly made the wrong decision at every turn. That’s why they are one of the laughingstocks of the league. I love the Angels and just want to see them win.

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Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Baseball America updated its top 100 prospect list this week, and highlighted a few names that just missed the list. Bremner moves into the top 50 (currently at #42, the lone Angels prospect in the list).

I count 16 names from the 2025 draft currently in the top 100. If you were to do a re-draft of last summer based on current rankings, Bremner would be #6 on the list (with more hyped names like Holliday, Doyle and Witherspoon falling below him).

I want to peacock here for just a moment and note that my CtPG shadow draft is looking really, really good at present. My first round pick in June last year was Seth Hernandez, but by July draft day, I had nudged Kade Anderson ahead of him, and was locked in on that pick.

Today? Kade Anderson and Seth Hernandez are now top ten national prospects, at #9 and #10 respectively, with Kade just a nose ahead of Seth. I was on that nose!

But more still – my third round selection was Anthony Eyanson – a guy who has outperformed almost all pitching draftees to date, and is now a top 50 prospect per BA (#48).

In my draft sim, after Kade, I focused on four names in rounds 2-3: Eyanson, Devin Taylor, and two prep bats: Quentin Young and Taitn Gray. I nattered on and on about how it would have been optimal to have traded for supplemental picks (there were many!) to fetch all of them, and all were available to the Halos had they expanded their options.

Well, Eyanson has exceeded every expectation (0.44 ERA, 1.54 FIP, 15 K/9), and Taylor is currently hitting .305/.427/.476 in high A for the Athletics org. Solid BPA selection!

Volatile teen bat Young, as I predicted, is struggling out of the gate with massive K rates, but also knocking some prodigious long balls here and there. But Taitn Gray has been a phenomenon. 18 yo, and a 142 wRC+ in A ball, great swing decisions, massive exit velocities.

Of the six names I focused on – two in each round – five of six have been slam dunks. Just having Anderson and Eyanson in the org – who each look like they could contribute this year – would have been a coup. Adding Taitn to the bunch would have been a coup de grace.

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Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
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And this is my whole point. If you can out perform them as a hobby, albeit a fairly serious one, they have the wrong people working for them. The fact that they are unaware of this fact actually speaks volumes regarding the complete ineptness of everyone in the organization. Arte, Molly, and Perry have no clue about what they are doing, assuming the goal is to be successful at baseball, which may be a misunderstanding on my part.

cookmeister
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

its been less than a year. Slawinski and Shores could be top 10 prospects this time next year. Who knows.

Teams (in trades) also go on their own evaluations, not MLB pipeline or BA.
Not saying they are not good players, but those rankings arent a reflection of reality sometimes

*NOTE* how many times have we seen Yankee prospects (along with other teams) in the top 50 get traded to another team and stink, or a year later are nothing (Arias, for example)

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  cookmeister

I get that and it’s a good point, but Turk’s proposed choices through the years have out performed the Angels. That should not be the case over time.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  cookmeister

Sure – but I don’t stock pick based on rankings absolutism either. In this case, I think the re-ranking at BA simply reflects actual observations from game, camp and backfields since July. Do you really think Kade and Seth don’t merit their bullish rankings?

I think it’s fair game to bake off the Angels vs my sims – I’ve been sharing and grading my homework with this community for a dozen years. Nobody hits 100% – hell, hitting 15% is an excellent draft.

But suggesting that different orgs have different evaluation strategies? Well naturally – though that doesn’t mean we can’t assess them longitudinally and see that the Angels are in the bottom 3 in the sport in terms of MLB WAR from their domestic drafts. Regular GM and scouting turnover have led to inconsistent strategies, and some truly contrarian selections.

Fwiw, I think Shores is still likely a reliever, and Slawinski projects as a backend rotation arm on a 4+ year timeline (he’s a two pitch teen with a FB sitting 91-93 at the moment). But that’s pretense tense. We’ll see if either break out.

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cookmeister
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1 month ago
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wasn’t a criticism of your work by any means.
and Anderson and Hernandez definitely have the right to be up that high.

I’m just saying that it isn’t as simple as 2+2=4
You acknowledge yourself that it’s hit and miss. All i was trying to say (and I’m not a super conspiracy guy but, there are wayyyy too many instances of prospects from certain organizations being ranked that I do not think are justified based on numbers)

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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Even highly ranked prospects are often ranked on a separate axis for volatility – high risk, low risk etc. I do feel it’s defensible to rank prospects based on ceiling while conceding that the likelihood of bust is high.

If all prospects were rated on floor, safety and current performance, I think you’d have a pretty mediocre group, and miss breakouts like Griffin and Anthony.

I do think a publication like BA is very thorough and well-staffed, with cross-checkers and redundancies, and 6-10 editors on their main lists who proxy for a large, regionally distributed team of scouts, analysts and front office contacts – a team that dwarfs most individual team draft squads. Their lists derive from a mix of opinions, but also multiple observations and a team-of-rivals approach.

With prospects, there will always, always be busts – but many will happen due to injury, inconsistent development, makeup, odd twists of fate. I think outright talent mis-assessment is fairly low at major pubs like BA, MLBP, BP. But shit happens in baseball and life.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
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Turk’s, you clearly do your homework and don’t just go off of listings. Like anyone – you’re going to have hits and misses, but you have good instincts. I’m guessing there are some pitching metrics you lean toward, because I think you’re really good there.

One thing I think is becoming more and more clear – the college game is simply not as directionally certain as one would think of in predicting a player’s rise. Pitchers are a crap shoot – but so are hitters. Dudes that flat out raked in college can struggle mightily even in A ball with the wood bats and pitching changes. I’m becoming more enamored with less swing and miss (nothing revolutionary there) and lots of line drives (what a breakthrough, right?). But I think there are scouts enamored at bombs from BBCOR games and it can be a trap. To me – if I was doing my drafting – I’d be looking very closely at where a player really hits the ball on his bat. Will his barreled BBCOR hits really be barrels with wood? The sweet spots are so much bigger on the college/high school bats – it’s a huge difference. Video analysts with the right program can be worth their weight in gold.

I was talking to an SEC analyst that was formerly with an MLB team. I asked him things like are they using overlays and technology to detect pitchers tipping pitches. He said yes, almost each team was doing that, but all with an eye on the video. He had heard a rumor the Dodgers had developed a program that had AI do it and it was amazing. It’s all these little things that add up – from finding talent – knowing when to pass – knowing details other are missing. I imagine the best teams at scouting have these little things they find – that might not even be shared with many people – and it gives them a huge advantage. The Angels – I think they are probably using VHS.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Yes, I’m absolutely certain the Dodgers have integrated AI into many parts of their player evaluation and projection modeling.

And yes, there are whole classes of college hitters who are built for college success, but not for the MLB. I have to re-learn that all the time, every draft cycle. Even in the context of reasonably advanced batted ball and swing data.

Most of my targets in the torso (rounds 4-7) of my draft sim last year are underperforming – college hitters like Mason Neville, Grant Jay, Gavin Turley. But it’s kind of to be expected – you go into it hoping to find a jewel in the rough in later rounds, but knowing most won’t pan out.

If a hitter falls that far, he has holes – despite a standout tool or two. You hope you hit on the top 3-4 picks, and then get one or two strikes on Day Two.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
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I remembered you being high on Hernandez – great call.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Though, as you see, I backed down after the college world series. 🙂

Seth had the higher ceiling, but also the higher bust likelihood (just potential injuries alone), whereas Kade looked like a #2 that was within a year, year and a half of the MLB.

Even today, that’s a hard call. Prefer both to Bremner, then and now, though I continue to defend Bremner as a top ten selection (just not my guy at #2).

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
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I think the real tell will be combining Bremner with the over slot HS guys. We need a nice hit on one of them for it to have been a savvy move. We won’t know that for a few years.

angelslogic
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1 month ago
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The Angels org would be wise to hire you.

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
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We were in lockstep on Seth and Eyanson.

I was all-in on Seth. Talent was obvious and his historic numbers backed it up.

Admittedly, I only watched college ball during the playoffs and preferred Eyanson to Kade. Not because I thought less of Kade than the consensus, but because my eye really really liked what I saw from Eyanson. Shores better be worth it

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Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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The crazy thing was, set aside Shores – Eyanson was available when the Angels selected Slawinski in round three.

Now, no knock on Slawinski, but even at draft time, he’s a pretty raw pitcher with backend projection – a pitchability prospect, not a power guy. And that’s what he still looks like, even in backfields games and his first ACL start – a guy who might get to #4 projection with maybe four seasons of work.

Eyanson however looked like a mid-rotation guy a year or two out – stable starter profile, highly developed secondaries – good velo with potentially more in the tank. Not selecting him over Shores deserves a sideeye, but passing him up for Slawinski is just a head-shaker to me.

TrojanBoiler
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1 month ago
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But clearly all of the MLB teams felt similarly. I wonder what drove his fall to round 3.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Some of the most analytical teams had few, or late, picks – so just didn’t have the opportunity. And some of the midmarket teams who had extra money to spend went prep, because prep bats were deep last year.

I know Boston, who is pitching desperate, was surprised and delighted he was available in round three.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
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I wonder if Perry even drove down the 91 to watch Seth pitch, 30-minutes. I remember you were heavy on Seth too.

I got to stop by commenting about the lost chance for a No. 1. I’ll have a proxy team favorite following the Pirates watching to see how far another one of my 2024 draft favorites, Griffin.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
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The farthest I’ve heard the Angels FO travel is to Del Taco in Corona.

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
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don’t know if I can find it but I seem to remember I had 3 of the same 4 as you but had Alex Lodise where you had Eyanson. Lodise is NOT tearing it up in A ball

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Yeah, a lot of power-over-hit types from last year’s college crop are really struggling in the early going, whereas the hit merchants (eg, Charles Davalan) are having a smoother landing.

To be fair, not a few scouts were worried than Lodise’s and Turley’s swings wouldn’t play in pro ball.

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
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found it… I had Anderson, Lodise, Eyanson, Turley actually.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
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Taitn Gray is someone I had not been tracking at all. Who drafted him? I know Taylor and you spoke about him and being a good pick for the A’s. I would have liked Seth followed by 2-bats.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Taitn was drafted by the Rays, who have a knack for finding high school studs. Their single A club is nuts at the moment, between Gray, Cooper Flemming and Caden Bodine. They had a great draft. I’ve been tracking the Charleston RiverDogs each day just to see what that trio will do.

Gitch and I were geeking out on Taitn for several weeks, both fixated on the Angels getting a supplemental pick to take a flyer on him. Josiah Hartshorn was another prepster I was keen on.

Taitn hit two home runs in today’s match alone.

steelgolf
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1 month ago
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Peacock away, it is well deserved. You made me aware of a few players before the draft that I had no idea about, but was impressed with.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Positives from the farm:

Both Grayson Rodriguez and Ryan Johnson are on rehab assignments, and both posted well in their first outings. I imagine each will be MLB ready by the end of next week.

Ideally, they’ll station Johnson at AA and stabilize him in a starter’s routine. Ping-ponging him between the bullpen and rotation, while also ping-ponging him between the MLB and minors has to be disorienting. They should choose a lane, and commit. There’s too much talent here to not give him some rope to develop in a stable environment.

We’re seeing positive progress from two prospects at the hot corner: Denzer Guzman and Jake Munroe. Guzman has his K% down to a very respectable 20%, while maintaining high walk rates north of 12%, and making some quality contact (5 HRs, 10 XBHs in his first month of AAA). His line drive rate is consistent, but he needs to get the ball in the air a bit more to elevate his power numbers a bit. He’s still very young for AAA (turned 22 in Feb), and I think he remains a top 5 prospect in the Angels org.

Munroe continues to surprise in A+ ball. His walk rate is up to 15%+ while keeping his strikeouts low. He’s selective and can do some damage here and there (4 HRs, 8 doubles), and is rocking a 163 wRC+ in a pitcher’s league. He’s more solidly built than athletic, and I still think he projects as more of a contributor than regular player, but I think he’s a follow in an Angels system very thin on bats otherwise. AA will tell us a lot, should he receive a June promotion.

One name to keep on your radars: Ubaldo Soto. He was my pick-to-click from last fall. I really liked his outings and overall stuff, despite the box scores, when I watched him in September. Ignore the ERA (he has a .411 BABIP in the notorious Cal League), and focus on the K rate (12.9 K/9). Baseball America’s RoboScout, which projects prospects to peak performance levels via a lot of factors, has Soto in the top 10 of all low-A pitchers – the one Angels arm in the list (not TGA, Jordan or Haley). Worth a look next time he pitches at Rancho.

Negatives on the farm:

The two guys one would like to see the most progress from in AAA – Nelson Rada and George Klassen – are mired in deep slumps. Klassen’s K rate has fallen to querulous lows – he’s struck out only one batter over his last two outings, while not getting past three innings in either.

Meanwhile, Rada is 1-for-25 over his past five games, and has only one extra base hit in his past 16 outings. A lot of his underlying swing data looks similar to last year, and his BB/K percentages are also in line, but he’s making weaker contact and just not squaring the ball like you’d hope in his second go at AAA.

At the lower levels of the farm, where much of the pitching capital is concentrated, we’re seeing more struggles in early spring than we saw last fall. Jordan has been up and down and hit around a bit more, with more inconsistent command. Shores and Snead are looking a bit Cortez-like in the early going of their bullpen-conversion projects. Bremner looks good, but is dealing with illness and missed his last start, then was hastily removed in his postponed outing this week.

We’re starting to get first looks at the prep draftees from 2025, as the ACL just started last weekend. (I got some early reads on Slawinski and LaCourse, and will share here and there as they fill out.)

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
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I’ve been watching that with both Rada and Guzman.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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Definitely not the typical progress with Guzman. Most young bats in the Angels system with power potential have tended to have their K rates spin out of control and struggle with consistent contact.

At least in the early going, Denzer is moving in the opposite direction. Here’s hoping patience pays off.

TrojanBoiler
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1 month ago
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querulous

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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Yeah, kind of a malapropism – was trying to aim for a word that meant troubling/discomfiting, vexing but mysterious. Actually thought to delete it, but didn’t want to edit such a prose block to death.

EHC is more querulous. Klassen’s K-drop is simply queer at this point.

TrojanBoiler
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I feel like I have a pretty decent vocab but that was a new one for me!

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
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And here I thought it meant argumentative or disagreeable.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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That it does.

smithy610
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1 month ago
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I know he’s no longer a prospect, but is Dana still salvageable? Or is it time to let the kid have a change of scenery?

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
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Noooooo

Dana & Chase Shores are the most OC pitchers imaginable. Like Central Casting level.

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
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Dana is still only 22 years old. If he didn’t fall behind in spring due to mono he would have gotten the big league shot before Johnson, Klassen, Urena.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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Sure, he’s young enough to be salvageable, but as you suggest, he might need a change of scenery. Salt Lake and the PCL is just not a great place for young guys who are learning to command and sequence to get repetitions.

Would love to see what a Pittsburgh, Seattle or Cleveland could do with Dana.

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
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These one stop shop reports are much appreciated.

The positive news on Grayson Rodriguez is of particular importance to the team.

Soriano
Urena
Jack K
Detmers
Rodriguez

Me Likey.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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Yeah, there’s a serviceable five with some upside there.

And outside of Detmers, I don’t think any of those guys were fully in the picture two years ago – at least not the principals in the pipeline. What we’re seeing with Koch, Urena and even Soriano were really long-tail outcomes.

Of course, as always in baseball and the Angels in particular, Rule 156 in all its wisdom: past performance is not indicative of future results.

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
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Good stuff, TT! Your effort and willingness to educate us all is not taken for granted. Greatly appreciate you staying around because I was concerned we’d lose you during your “year abroad”

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
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Is that a euphemism for prison? Lulz

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
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hahahaha no. TT coined 2026 his “study abroad year” watching the A’s instead of the Angels

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
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Still true! My wife was not kidding when she said she’d watch games with me every night again if it were the A’s, not the Angels. So we’ve been doing just that.

A’s are fun! Their starters are overperforming. Their bullpen is inconsistent too! They have a lot of offense, but their sluggers are not even regularly clicking. They absolutely could win the division, though the Mariners and Rangers will contest it for a good long time. They also have to strong farm teams at AA/AAA with a good pipeline of players that will fortify the club over the next year or two.

It’s also impossible to follow the A’s farm w/o bumping into the Angels farm plenty. And I’m still doing lots of draft research, but with a mind to both the A’s and Angels draft position this year – as they tend to select within a few picks of each other each round.

steelgolf
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1 month ago
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I still think the A’s have a very good chance to be a winning force by the time they move to their new stadium in Vegas and make a few post season runs. That talent could even click to a World Series win.

EHC
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1 month ago

Seems today’s narrative has turned into a “I wish we were the Dodgers.” Careful what you wish for.
Anyone notice how all their big time money free agent pitchers are always hurt? Notice how their 40 million a year man Tucker is trash now? What’s his name can’t hit and keeps losing on the mound?
If the Angels did this stuff – what would we hear ? Typical Arte – trying to buy a pennant.
And so it goes around here.

PedroCerrano
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1 month ago
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I’m not a Dodger fan but our hometown team hasn’t sniffed the post season in what is soon to be twelve years. The Dodgers have won the last two world series and are still in first place despite their struggles. Vegas still has them as odds on favorits to repeat.

Not saying Ohtani’s name doesn’t prevent him from being one of if not the best players ever. He was great for the Angels and they consistently missed opportunities to capitalize on them or at minimum to trade him for a haul of prospects that we would now be enjoying.

The Angels problems are self inflicted and unless they start making better decisions, are likely to continue.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Well said, it’s all about making bad decisions.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

You’re overgeneralizing. A single commenter, HalosFanForLife, started a thread – basically a thought experiment – asking if Angels fans would be ok paying more for the stadium experience if the Angels were as competitive as the Dodgers. Same commenter compared Angels roster to Dodgers roster. That’s one guy starting a conversation.

But half the responses are from you freaking out about it, then starting to complain about the community again: “And so it goes around here.”

Every comment you post that complains ad nauseam about this place – do you ever just pause for a moment and ask yourself: “have I become that grumpy old man on the internet”?

This place clearly drives you crazy. You can always just pocket your frustrations and walk away.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

He can’t be, I’m the grumpy old man.  😠 

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

One of many to be sure, but most of the grouches here raise and clink glasses several times a day, not just heckle from the bar while complaining about every song that comes on the jukebox.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
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In other words EHC…

suckit
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EHC
1 month ago

that’s about right – keep the vibe going brother

EHC
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1 month ago
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Nope. You guys (the founders or whatever you call yourselves) complain about the team and wash the Dodgers balls. Go ahead. I like my team.

I feel like I have to fight off all the hate for the team around here every single day. I would guess many avoid this site for this reason – the constant hate of the team they are supposedly rooting for. The team wins a game and it doesn’t matter – the hate continues. I can’t figure it out. If someone says something positive about the Angels – we are clueless and Arte lovers – but if someone is negative – they are real fans.

And I will get shit for this post as well. I have said it before – I’m a fan – I will look for the good and keep going.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

Yes. Management is awesome. What did you name your unicorn? Just curious.

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

Sometimes it’s better to say less.

And, you’re not a “victim”. Relax.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

You’re projecting again. I actually live five minutes from Dodgers Stadium, have so for 25 years, and cofounded an Angels blog.
If you’re going to accuse us of washing Dodger balls, you’re getting very close to a ban.

Folks can hate on team decisions and strategy as much as they like here – but hating on other commenters is given a real short leash. You consistently hate on community members and editors – it’s repetitive and hostile. You’re the aggressor – no one buys you as a victim.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I didn’t know you lived near Chavez Latrine. (Don’t like getting in there – pretty cool park to watch a game though.) My favorite baseball memory ever was there. My dad got tickets to the 1974 World Series. We were lined up perfectly in the bleachers for the Ferguson throw to nail Sal Bando at the plate. Didn’t care for either team – but that throw was awesome. One of my greatest baseball memories with my dad. My second favorite – being in the bleachers and 5 people away from Judge’s 62. Ball was coming straight at my son and I – then it hooked the last 100 feet. So close and yet so far. Actually did hit chart research on Judge and bought the front row seats the last three games 6 weeks ahead of time. Was not going there to witness it – was going there to catch it. LOL – but at least we got to witness it.

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Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
1 month ago

Yeah, I’ve been in the Echo Park hills since roughly the Angels won the world series. Still love the neighborhood.

Go to one or two Dodgers games a year, and hear the fireworks and flyovers every home game. But I can literally walk there in 10+ minutes – as everyone knows, the park entry and exit experience by car is pure misery.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

CTPGs old home park take over! Everyone park at Turks! We will all walk in like a Sea of Red!

Which means 6-7 people so one 7 passenger van would work.

Angels2020Champs
Member
Legend
1 month ago

I’ll bring 4!

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I don’t think EHC is close to a ban. Using a phrase to convey brown nosing the dogers it’s that bad or hasn’t been in the past. I’ve read EHC being called worst, even in a post today. EHC is optimistic and is not liking the negativity (So much negativity, yet warranted). There have been many Hopium-Debbie Downer arguments over the years. This one reminds me of when Grandpa 1st came on the boards. The community (cesspool) jumped on him like no other. Some could say Grandpa was bullied. Soon people enjoyed his hopium until it was beaten out of him. Grandpa is also a doger fan and I’ve given him grief for that. I believe Pineapple is resident hopium. I like hopium, but the hopium year keeps getting higher (pun intended). I believe someone predicted 2030 something as the year we compete. Like father time the Cesspool seems to always win. It’s even chipping on me and I’m an above .500 guy every year in predicting. EHC is just defending himself from the Cess Tidal Wave. He is not wrong and not right and that sounds like a lot of us.

Repetitive and hostile?
Arte Sell!
Angels Suck!
Blowpen!
Fire Perry!

Yeah, Ban everyone here!

I do know one guy that hasn’t been repetitive though…

Shuffle Bot stand up and take a Bow!

BannedInLA
Legend
1 month ago

I don’t think anyone should be banned. Annoying or otherwise.

That said, people can, should & deserve FAFO.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
1 month ago

Wally, have you been reading EHC? From his first comments, he’s been attacking the community relentlessly for insufficiently supporting the team. He’s the worst sort of purity troll, and it’s obnoxious.

If EHC would just talk about baseball and the Angels, there’d be no issue. Be as optimistic or pessimistic as he likes – just stop whinging about other commenters.

The sort of complaints you suggest are all about the *team* – that’s exactly what this forum is for. People can kvetch about the team from dawn til dusk.

But we don’t need a fucking hall monitor policing CtPG for a lack of loyalty and team spirit. Let the crowd vent.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

2002 pops his head in here every now and then. And I wanted that guy banned at one point.

I don’t think EHC has gotten to that level.

BannedInLA
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Really? Where? I lived in El Sereno, Eagle Rock & Pasadena for about 25 years.

BannedInLA
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

The doyers being continuous WS contention mitigates the downside for most people.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 month ago

3 games out of a wild card spot.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 month ago

I was surprised as well

BannedInLA
Legend
1 month ago

We didn’t do diddly poo !!!

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

I’ve disliked the Dodgers since I was 7 years old (so 56 years). And even though I’ll never like the Dodgers – just can’t do it, I enjoy watching some of their players.

But here’s the deal, even I know they are well run – from their scouting to development – everywhere. Add in they spend like there is no budget and it’s unfair. But let’s say a guy like Bezos bought the Angels. Deep pockets – wants to win more than make money. And let’s say he went Dodgers nuts on payroll, scouting, development. And ticket prices doubled and hot dogs went to $12. Would y’all be happy or complaining?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

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TrojanBoiler
Super Member
1 month ago

I would love this. Can you imagine being at a game and it’s actually sold out and full of actual home team fans? The energy in the crowd alone would be worth doubling the price of admission.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 month ago

I would love to see the Halos be the equals of the Doyers no matter what it would cost to be at a winner’s home game, it should have been like that for the last 25 years. 👍  💍  🏆  💫 

EHC
Trusted Member
EHC
1 month ago

Didn’t the Angels sweep the Dodgers last year? Those were home games.

2pints
Super Member
1 month ago

Yes please, sign me up. If nothing else, they’d at least be interesting. Being bad is one thing, but being bland and bad is the worst.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2pints

If Arte could just understand that drafting and developing players is much cheaper than buying them.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Since it’s been more than 40 years since I’ve stepped foot in the stadium, I don’t care what they charge for admission or food. I would love to turn on the game and see a winning Angels squad most nights, so I’d be thrilled with an owner who invests to put a quality product on the field.

EHC
Trusted Member
EHC
1 month ago

You kidding? Most on here didn’t want to pony up a few $$$ to watch the games on TV – you think they would break open the wallet to buy tickets?

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

You’re comparing apples to oranges though.

In a hypothetical scenario where the Angels are a well-run, winning organization, you can’t project the unwillingness people have today to pay for the real life suck-fest version of the Angels.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago

Me too, but mostly because even back then I thought the fans were arrogant and I hated the Steve Garvey worship, which overshadowed the fact that Ron Cey was actually a better player.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I would still want a salary cap and floor.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

I’m 100% with you on it. But let’s say they don’t put that in – and you’ve got a guy that losing $100 million in a season would be like play money. Would you be happier with higher prices – or do you want the cheaper experience and nice parking like Arte suggests.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I would be happy with the owner who admitted, “I have no clue but I’ll hire the best I can and let them loose”. I’d be happy with higher prices if we could get that owner.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 month ago

Valdez was the most intentional plunk I’ve seen in forever. When even your manager throws you under the bus at the press conference you know you suck.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

100% intentional. He is quickly becoming the most disliked guy in the league even though they did it because Story was signaling in pitches from second. Well guess what Valdez – stop showing your grip to the guy at second and you won’t get rocked.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
1 month ago

Dalton Rushing would like to have a word

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I heard a half dozen MLB guys asked about that and they all used the same word – Weak

Guys have been relaying signs and tipped pitches forever. Most dugouts have at least one guy who is really gifted at picking up small nuances and those guys are generally very appreciated in their clubhouse.

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WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

That must be Tim Buss for us. That guy survives every Manager change.

FungoAle
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Every pitcher denies it was on purpose, wink-wink. Framber is a loser but I’m happy he plunked Trevor Story. Imagine, a grossly overpaid player, Story, calling out management for firing Alex Cora. Story is the last guy who should callout the GM and ownership as he is only hitting ~ .200 and striking out at a 31% clip. Trevor should just … STFU.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Throwing at guys to move them off the plate or to keep them off balance is part of the game. Drilling guys up around the shoulders because you tipped pitches or didn’t locate is incredibly lame.It’s unfortunate that the universal DH has removed some off the self corrective measures that a guy like him would face.

I’ve been drilled by 93-95 mph in the helmet and it does take a minute to sort your resolve.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

It would be incredibly entertaining to know what the opposing players said when they cleared the duggout. Something like: “Dude don’t swing on me, I know he’s trash and that sucked, lets just stand here for a minute. It’s a 10-2 game and I have zero desire to get my ass kicked twice on the same day”

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Great article. I’ve wondered for the last two years why good bunting speed demons don’t lay them down more often. If you can get a hit 50% of the time on bunts for a base hit, you have 1.000 OPS. Beats the heck out of guys hitting below the Mendoza line swinging away.

https://www.mlb.com/news/bunting-increasing-across-mlb-early-in-2026?tduid=03e07e22f32bac78516e863f56dff99e

EHC
Trusted Member
EHC
1 month ago

Two wins in a row. A very good start by a young arm, who is showing good stuff. A couple guys showing signs of life at the plate. Trout looks healthy and is going to make the All Star team again.

Perhaps there will be some good baseball this summer?

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

If Perry allows Kurt to play those who are actually playing the best, the team could win a few games. But that has not been the case so far. Unbelievable stubbornness by Perry. Almost makes one think he wants to screw Arte cause he knows he won’t be back.

toad2065
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

Do you have any actual evidence to support the idea that Perry is making out the lineups? Yeah, I thought not.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  toad2065

Madden did mention Perry’s call to the dugout to remove Trout from a blowout win. Never a lineup request though. But Kurt is smart enough to know who is playing better than who. Kurt has no ax to grind to keep playing Lowe and Moncada. He wants to be a manager in the future. I think Perry has multiple axes to grind.
I can’t think of any other reason to keep playing bad players other than Perry wishing they could recover and be good so he looks smart for his next interview. If Kurt is the reason these guys are playing then he should know by now how stupid he looks and that he isn’t getting another interview for manager.

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago

AL West is a joke. We’d probably be leading the division with a proper bullpen 😂

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

How many of our position players would make Dodgers roster? Dodgers having down years from basically all their superstars, Mookie been out, and they are still 4th in the Majors in hitting. Trout and Neto? Maybe Soler? Maybe Adell? Scary how bad we are. Now go to rotations. Of course we have one. Now go to the bullpen. Yes, we’re that bad.

EHC
Trusted Member
EHC
1 month ago

So you are saying the Dodger$ are a better team than the Angels? Thanks for clarifying that. It’s amazing what spending 1 billion dollars on payroll can do.

EHC
Trusted Member
EHC
1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

Yeah, those boys in blue they do it the “right” way. They really know how to build a winner.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  EHC

“Losers always whine about ‘trying their best’. Winners go home and fu*k the prom queen.”

So yeah, keep cheering Arte and Perry on for “doing it the right way”.

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EHC
Trusted Member
EHC
1 month ago

Hey “legend” : Typical – you missed the point. Or perhaps you are commenting about the original post – who sounds like he is whining about how great the Dodgers are?
I never said the Angels are doing it right – but don’t tell me how great the Dodgers are with their development and bench. They buy their star players and have little need for any of their prospects – not to mention that exactly none of their hyped prospects have panned out. But keep on if you want.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  EHC

After reading all the observations you posted in this article, it’s reasonable to conclude that you must have eaten a bowl of “stupid” for breakfast this morning. However, to be fair, I don’t believe you’re stupid; you just have bad luck when you think.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

?? The Dodgers are undoubtedly good at drafting and development.

They have a top 5 rated farm system, and if memory serves me correctly its been rated high for most of the past decade. And that’s been accomplished without ever being sellers at the deadline.

They have several home grown players that are arguably better than anyone on the Angels roster not named Trout – Pages, Smith, Rushing

I hate the Dodgers as much as anyone here, but they would be a good franchise without their payroll. Their massive wallet is just what pushes them over the top to being completely unbeatable.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  EHC

No – what I asked was how many of our position players would make the Dodgers roster. A lot of their bench are home grown – and they are still better. All their big payroll guys are down and their subs are still better than most of our guys.

FungoAle
Legend
1 month ago

Neto and Trout

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Yes, none of our players would crack their lineups. Not a great comparison, cause yes they are a well run beast with $$ to burn. Forget the players, it’s also the billions spent on player development in the minors. Only sport you can keep finishing in 1st place resulting late round draft picks, yet always have a top prospect pool. They are also masters of trades. Look what they ripped off Boston, Dustin May for their top prospect Tibbs who is raking. Compare Angels position players to them a couple of years ago we had ‘the standout’, who eventually ended up over there anyways LOL.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Their combination of buying talent, finding talent and developing talent is pretty potent. The Mets buy theirs – and guess what – it doesn’t matter. They are not in high regards on the scouting and development side.

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