Angels vs. Twins Game 4 Gamethread

Final home game of the season.

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GrandpaBaseball
Legend
4 minutes ago

Was that 1 pitch and two outs?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 minutes ago

Too bad. I like Samy but I believe this is the last time we’ll see him pitch for us in Anaheim

MH252525
Super Member
1 minute ago

unless he gains 5 mph on his fastball, he’s just never going to get hitters out consistently. It’s almost like watching a position player out there.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
9 minutes ago

Way to finish strong in front of the home fans.

MH252525
Super Member
11 minutes ago

Who on the Angels thinks a guy with an 87 mph 4 seamer is EVER going to pitch well?

AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
11 minutes ago

Moore has the same range as Rengifo.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
10 minutes ago

Thank you for uh-oh…hr

Thank you for reminding me

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 minutes ago

if we lose today, which seems likely, we will only need to split the last 6 games to avoid 100 losses. The two walk offs this week may have saved us.

FungoAle
Legend
11 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Nothing wrong with 100 losses. The 2023 Orioles went from 110 losses previous season to 101 wins.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
5 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

With this loss we’ll have reached that inevitable day when we clinch being in the top 3 odds for the #1 pick

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
20 minutes ago

No error on Siri??

AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
19 minutes ago

Doesn’t make any sense.

angelslogic
Legend
22 minutes ago

Siri can’t catch an easy fly ball. Then, he jogs in for a throw past second base which allows the runner to score all the way from second base. He’s done these things many times before. He is a cancer. DFA.

FungoAle
Legend
20 minutes ago
Reply to  angelslogic

I’ve never taken a shine to Perry’s 30+ year old journeyman OFs acquisitions. The only one that I thought was somewhat worthy was Kevin Pillar.

MH252525
Super Member
19 minutes ago
Reply to  angelslogic

if he was on a team where things like that weren’t allowed to slide then he could be a decent last OF off the bench, but Suzuki and Trout run the team on good vibes where there is no accountability and you are patted on the butt after hitting into a double play that the 2B botches and still easily turns the double play because you walked out of the box.

MH252525
Super Member
24 minutes ago

Sammy Peralta is like that 45 overall ranked player in MLB the Show were you wonder how on God’s green earth did this player ever touch foot on a major league field.

MH252525
Super Member
22 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

how did he get promoted to the big club with an 8.66 ERA and 1.87 whip in AAA?

FungoAle
Legend
17 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

John Mozeliak, can you a address this question as to why?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
24 minutes ago

Your 2026 Angels have returned.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
25 minutes ago

Ok this is getting embarrasing

MH252525
Super Member
27 minutes ago

Wow Siri decided he wanted to make it look cool, when it was just a fly ball.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
26 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

We need two new OFs next year

AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
24 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Trout is fine at CF.

MH252525
Super Member
33 minutes ago

How is Brady Anderson still here, the offense seems to be getting worse, not better.

FungoAle
Legend
41 minutes ago

Happy RJ failed to yield base on balls, struck out 6. Just seven seeing eye straggly looking singles got him. RJ is looking like a lock for next years rotation.

MH252525
Super Member
40 minutes ago
Reply to  FungoAle

yea he’ll slot in nicely after Detmers, Walbert, and Skubal.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 minutes ago
Reply to  MH252525

And the guy from Japan

MH252525
Super Member
44 minutes ago

First thing this team has to improve next year is the OF defense. Get Trout to DH, don’t offer Lowe a contract as I think he’s arb eligible. Get someone that can actually play some good OF defense. We need at least one anchor out there. Also please never play Moises at 1B and Grissom at 2B, that has to be the right side of the infield with the least range ever. And Moore isn’t much better.

AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
45 minutes ago

Sigh

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AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
1 hour ago

Two runs isn’t insurmountable. The Halos can do this.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 hour ago

Trout .250 watch: I believe he has to hit .393 the rest of the way. It’s such a small sample that it’s possible. My hope is that he doesn’t drop into the .230s (he’s awfully close)

RexFregosi
Legend
2 hours ago

Neto leads the team in pretty much every single batting statistic and yet:

Angels players voted for Mike Trout as the team’s 2026 MVP.

AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

He also leads the team in strikeouts and errors.

This speaks volumes about what the team feels about Neto. Maybe Neto’s general immaturity rubs the guys the wrong way.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Not exactly. He leads in Ks, being thrown out trying to steal by a ton, and all the counting numbers because other than Trout who he’s been up almost 70 times more, he’s been up 200 times or more more than everyone else on the team. That and playing SS give him a tremendous advantage for accumulating WAR.Trout is a 15% better hitter than Neto relative to the league.

He doesn’t lead in OBA or OPS, or BA. He does lead in Slugging pct. This is a really bad team so he is tied with Meckler as the 2nd best hitters on the team behind Trout. He’s one of the 3 best players on a really bad team.

Not saying he’s not a good player, but he’s certainly not a runaway choice for the best player, and an argument could be made either way. He’s a mixed bag for sure.

RexFregosi
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Will the real Big Poppa please stand up?

Not you Zach.
Sit down.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

If they voted him as the MVP it would be legitimate, but picking Trout over him is not a big deal. Just my opinion. When I saw how many more ABs he had than everyone else, if he wasn’t leading in all the counting categories, he would not be a very good player. He’s clearly one of the top 3 players on this team and if anyone thinks he’s the best player, I don’t have a strong argument against that. I was just pointing out that he has huge advantages over his teammates and is a mixed bag because of all the errors, how many times he’s been thrown out, the Ks, and the fact that other than slugging, he doesn’t lead in any of the rate categories. But I’ll be happy to say he’s the MVP, because he plays the most important defensive position on the field, has been extremely durable this year and is one of the top 2 hitters on the club.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I apologize Rex, I did not mean to rain on your parade. I was just pointing some things out.

RexFregosi
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

All good. Just pointing it out.

The players vote speaks for itself.

Zach had a good year, but there’s more to baseball than counting stats.

angelslogic
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

It has many names, including:
-past performance effect
-halo effect
-legacy effect

He didn’t deserve it this year.

Angels2020Champs
Member
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  angelslogic

My team MVP: wade meckler. Trout is in the top 3 along with Neto.

Biggest surprise: sale of the team, starting pitching, farm improving.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago

Not sure what the announcers are referring to when they say the team has been playing better lately. They were 11-17 .392 in August and 6-10 .375 in September.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

100 losses would be .383. Last night’s win puts 100 losses in doubt.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I believe we’ve won 4 of our last 6 so that’s what they’re looking at.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago

That’s squinting really hard.  🙂 

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