LA Angels Thursday News Crash:

Yusei Kikuchi says he hopes to be able to return to play early in the second half of the season. Alek Manoah apparently cleared waivers and is officially outrighted to AAA Salt Lake.

Michael Stefanic was a free agent for about a day when the Athletics re-signed him to a minor league deal. The Padres released corner infielder Jose Miranda from his minor league contract.

Reliever Peter Strezelecki elected free agency when the Brewers tried to run him through outright waivers.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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HalosFanForLife
Super Member
23 seconds ago

Oh rats – we lost again.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
5 minutes ago

While I know I’m far from the only one, and I know it makes no difference to the organization, what Moreno has managed to do over the last few years is turn me from a fan that would attend 8-10 games a season (either on the club level or the Diamond Club) into someone who didn’t go to a single game last year, is 99% sure to not attend any games this season, and barely watches an inning or two on TV anymore, if I watch at all.

I’ve become completely apathetic toward the team because they’re nowhere close to being fundamentally sound, and they have less than zero chance of making the postseason, if a less than zero chance was mathematically possible.

The way Moreno and his staff have taken this organization from the highest of highs to whatever you want to call this low is both shocking and astonishing at the same time.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
48 minutes ago

When no one claims the guys you DFA shouldn’t it be a clue that you don’t want them either.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
41 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Exactly.

smithy610
Super Member
1 hour ago

If Mike Trout is as checked out as he looked like last night, I think he should just get it over with and ask Arte for a trade. Let both sides fulfill their respective destinies – Trout to play for a playoff contender and Angels get their first 100-loss season, another feather to Arte’s cap as Angels owner

Fansince1971
Legend
9 minutes ago
Reply to  smithy610

I guess it’s time for the reality again that nobody will take Mike Trout with his bloated contract. So, Arte would have to eat the majority of it. Never going to happen.

smithy610
Super Member
4 minutes ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yes I know the reality he’s not tradeable. But if he makes his trade request public, it will put immense pressure on Arte. Whether Arte does something with it or not, who knows. But Trout letting the world know he wants out of the Angels is the dam that that everyone is waiting to see break.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
1 hour ago

Josh Lowe is so laughably bad at both defense and hitting. I don’t know how he ever managed to put up a decent season in 2023.

Not only did the Angels trade to get a player after two years of severe decline, they gave away a decent bullpen piece (Brock Burke) who has remained a decent bullpen piece for the Reds. I’m all for the tank this year, but you aren’t supposed to trade away your good players for bad when you do that. There are plenty of bad free agents you can sign.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 hour ago

Manoah cleared waivers? How? There has to be some High School teams looking for guys that throw 88.

Pineapple12
Legend
1 hour ago

Imagine, if in 2023, Shohei Ohtani had unleashed his two-way prowess for the Tampa Bay Rays, if only for a few months. Imagine if he had been traded for Junior Caminero, who would now be starring at third base for the Los Angeles Angels instead of the Rays.

A blockbuster involving those players, carrying mammoth implications for both clubs, was seriously discussed before the 2023 trade deadline, according to people briefed on the conversations.

It didn’t happen, of course. For the second straight year, Angels owner Arte Moreno decided against trading Ohtani, only to lose him to the Los Angeles Dodgers as a free agent four months later.

The Angels, on the other hand, soon will face renewed questions about whether to embark upon a selloff as they sit on the worst record in the American League with a general manager, Perry Minasian, in the final year of his contract. Their manager, Kurt Suzuki, is also on a one-year deal.

Caminero, then a 19-year-old at Double A, would have been one of two top prospects heading to the Angels for Ohtani. The other would have been shortstop Carson Williams, who was then a 20-year-old at High A. The Angels would have wanted additional talent, even though Ohtani was only a rental. The Rays were willing to include lesser pieces to close the deal, league sources said.

For the Angels, Moreno’s refusal to bring the trade to fruition represents yet another what-if from Ohtani’s time in Anaheim.

Prior to the 2022 deadline, when Ohtani was under club control for two pennant races, the Angels discussed an Ohtani trade with the San Diego Padres that would have brought them a comparable or perhaps even better package than the one the Padres ultimately sent the Washington Nationals for Juan Soto, who was under control for three races.

The Nationals’ six-player haul for Soto included outfielder James Wood, shortstop CJ Abrams and left-hander MacKenzie Gore. As previously reported, center fielder Jackson Merrill also was part of the discussions for Ohtani, according to sources briefed on the talks. It was not out of the question the Padres would have included him if Moreno was willing to proceed.

But Moreno balked then, and balked again the following year. The Angels finished both seasons 73-89. If they had kept Ohtani, it would have made their failure to trade him forgivable. But their only compensation for losing the best player in the world as a free agent was the 74th pick in the 2024 draft, which they used on right-hander Ryan Johnson.

Making matters worse, the Angels compounded their problems when they turned into buyers instead of landing Caminero, Williams and potentially more from the Rays. They have yet to be haunted by any of the prospects they traded. But several have appeared in the majors, and could have been used for other moves.

Entering July 26 of Ohtani’s final season in Anaheim, the Angels were 52-49, 3 1/2 games out in the wild-card race, with playoff odds of 16.7 percent. That day, they acquired pitchers Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo López from the White Sox. They then added first baseman C.J. Cron, outfielder Randal Grichuk and reliever Dominic Leone prior to the Aug. 1 deadline as well.

Their plan flopped spectacularly.

The Angels lost 19 of their first 26 games in August. At the end of the month, Moreno authorized a massive waiver dump that cost the team five players, including Giolito, López and Leone. But the shocking purge worked as intended, getting the Angels under the luxury-tax threshold.

“What might have been” tales from past deadlines are common in baseball. Rarely, though, are proposed trades as impactful as the ones the Angels could have made for Ohtani, first with San Diego, then with Tampa Bay. Caminero alone would have filled a third-base void created by the disastrous signing of Anthony Rendon, giving the Angels a building block for the future.

Alas, it was the same old story.

Moreno said no.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7296204/2026/05/21/shohei-ohtani-trade-rays-angels-2023-moreno/?unlocked_article_code=1.kFA.j9my.fMSIEnU0-m2P&source=athletic_user_shared_gift_article_copylink&smid=url-share-ta

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

SELL THE TEAM! SELL THE TEAM!

bobblanton
Super Member
57 minutes ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Sell

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
50 minutes ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Arte doesn’t care. People can parade through the stadium wearing “sell Arte sell” emblazoned on their bodies and it won’t make difference…because he’s never wrong. Perry won’t get fired because he blindly follows Arte’s plans.

Resistance remains futile.

All the complaints feed Arte’s ego. It might make the remaining fans feel good to protest, but it ain’t going to change a thing.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
5 minutes ago

If they did porn – Perry would be Arte’s fluffer. And Suzuki would be Perry’s.

Last edited 4 minutes ago by HalosFanForLife
Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
39 minutes ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Unfortunately, our player personnel geniuses would have turned Junior Caminero into Brandon Wood.

steelgolf
Legend
21 minutes ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

This team is cursed at 3rd base. Ever since Carlton arrived fashionably late, by a whole day, to the winter meetings, and Beltre was already signed by The Rangers. The baseball gods did not overlook that transgression and decided to relegate The Angels 3rd base to baseball purgatory. This is why we are left to watch the amazing, blunders feats of Moncada.

tanana40
Super Member
2 hours ago

Please sell!

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