LA Angels Monday News Crash: DFA

Both Jordan Romano and Shaun Anderson have been designated for assignment. Joey Lucchesi is back. Logan O’Hoppe got a fractured wrist on the same day and is on the injured list. I guess the Angels lost their third game in a row against the mighty Royals. Mike Trout did set another record over the weekend.

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Tommy Pham also got designated for assignment. The Red Sox fired some people, including Alex Cora. Chad Tracy is their interim manager.

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angelslogic
Legend
19 days ago

But I’ll gladly settle for a lead.

angelslogic
Legend
19 days ago

Yes! The buttercup is in sight!

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 days ago

These.guys epitomize how we all feel. Right fellas?

https://youtu.be/47ISHxl0m3Q

Last edited 19 days ago by HalosFanForLife
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago

That’s awesome and should but won’t embarrass Arte and Perry. People are making fun of them.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

AI is fun. That basically took 30 minutes of playing around.

Terry
Trusted Member
19 days ago

Jeff Joiner: I just read your article regarding the Burke/Lowe deal its an excellent article, very well done, I hope Minisian reads it, as well as Artie. “Raw hamburger in a car trunk on a hot Bakersfield day.” LOL, so true!!!!

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Thank you. I appreciate it.

I don’t think my candor is getting me any favors with the Angels brass but the media folks there like me so far.

2pints
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The deeper you report on the franchise, the more Sam Blum you become.

milehigh
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  2pints

Not sure if that is an ouch or a compliment. lol

2pints
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  milehigh

To me, its a compliment. To those who disliked Sam because he tended to focus on negatives instead of doing more fluff pieces, its not.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yes, very nice and points out the absolute thoughtlessness with a lot of Perry’s decision making. I know Gitch would disagree, but I think half the people here could do a better job with major league roster construction and that says a lot more about Perry than it does about the people in our community, not that there are not some really sharp ones. It’s as if he doesn’t even look at the numbers.

toad2065
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Hindsight is always clear and very easy to come by.

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  toad2065

Eh, ok – but foresight can be improved by skill, practice, data, and talent – calibrated by rational expectations.

Lowe has had one good season in five, and we’re well removed from that season. He’s never been a particularly strong defender.

Exchanging a player who has been good for two seasons for a player that has been bad for two seasons, without significant injuries explaining the discrepancy? That’s a case where foresight and hindsight should probably converge.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

This reminded me of something. A head to head football board game where I got behind early, things got worse and I started calling ridiculous plays hoping something would work but nothing did. I ended losing 55-0.

Well Perry is kind of like that. Maybe this signing will somehow pay off. No? Then maybe this one will. Or maybe this other one.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
19 days ago

An under-discussed element of the Angels’ recent troubles is how bad the team defense remains. Tied for last in the league in Def at Fangraphs, last in the league in Fielding Run Value, 27th in OAA. (And this mirrors the team’s defense last season.)

This has had a disproportionate impact on some of the pitchers. Kikuchi’s expected batting average is .265, but his BABIP is a ridiculous .357. On a rate basis (BABIP+), it’s 23% worse than you’d find in a luck/defense neutral context. His expected ERA is 1.3 pts lower than his actual ERA, and his fielding independent mark a full 2.5pts lower.

Detmers has a 4.28 ERA, but a 2.92 xERA and 3.22 FIP.

You can sample the play logs and find many cases where singles and doubles had 65-80% out expectancy but were hits against the Angels’ defense, and resulted in some big innings for the opponent. A little of this is bad luck in small samples, but a lot of it is also bad defense, and poor player positioning.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

We mentioned that he failed to address this and it could have been done without spending money.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

There was some mention of it in the offseason (not least by me). But lately the focus has been bullpen, offense and SP depth.

Some of the worst pitching meltdowns recently, however, have been defense-aided. 2-3 highlight reel plays have overshadowed how many high-probability outs were not made at all.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

TT – Question completely unrelated to this. I asked in a thread last week but forgot to go back and see if you responded.

Do you know what’s up with Slawinski?

Last edited 19 days ago by TrojanBoiler
Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

I did answer then, but don’t mind repeating:

Slawinski (and all of the seven 2025 drafted prep arms save for Talon Haley) is in extended spring training in Arizona, preparing for Arizona Complex League play later this summer.

In extended ST, prospects see action against other teams who have affiliate complexes in Arizona, along with close coaching and time in the pitching lab.

Both Slawinski and CJ Gray (5th round pick) have had good reports in Arizona, and Jesus Cano (formerly of BA, now a beat writer for the Athletic) highlighted both as pitchers impressing in XST a couple weeks back.

A long, athletic lefthander, Slawinski offers intriguing upside as a potential starter thanks to his blend of projection and feel. His fastball sat at 94-95 mph and received plenty of whiffs. His slider has taken a step forward, showing sharper bite and the ability to miss bats, while his curveball remains a softer, less consistent look. He also mixes in a fading changeup that continues to develop into a usable third pitch.

In his outing against the Brewers on Tuesday, Gray tossed two innings, sitting 94–95 mph and touching 97 with his fastball while showing a solid feel for the strike zone. His offspeed pitches were inconsistent at times, and he wore his emotions on the mound when calls didn’t go his way.

Still, Gray remains a high-upside arm. His fastball projects as a potential plus pitch if command continues to improve, while his developing slider and changeup each flash promise. Ongoing work to refine his delivery should help him throw more consistent strikes and fully tap into his explosive, athletic arsenal.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Was Haley promoted because they think he is further along in his development? It seems odd that he’s the only guy not in AZ.

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Haley is 12-18 months older than the others, already 20. His arsenal is more fully developed – four average or better pitches – whereas the others are more raw, trying to find a third pitch.

Was a top 100 talent, only medicals and age really setting him back from being a second round talent.

toad2065
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Moncada is a serial clanker!

angelslogic
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  toad2065

πŸ˜‚

milehigh
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Re: BABIP, both Soriano and Jack K are below .215 in BABIP. Nothing to make of that really. Soriano has pitched spectacularly and Jack has done well, too. My main takeaway was that when/if BABIP creeps up for those two, as it probably should at some point, games may even be harder for Angels to win.

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  milehigh

I don’t think you can evaluate holistic team defense looking at Soriano or Koch – you’re talking about two of the most extreme statistical outliers not just on the team but across the MLB. They’re unicorns, frankly.

Koch is tied with George Kirby for the highest GB rate in the Majors, and Soriano is #4. Soriano in particular is in the 90th percentile for both groundballs and weak contact, half his balls in play are topped and hit to left/left-center. He induces weak grounders to the same location again and again – and his expected batting average and BABIP nearly converge as a result.

Both guys are ripe for some regression, but Jack K much more so, as his Statcast profile looks modestly improved, but still similar to last year’s. Hitters have been pulling the ball more to the left side on him, and going less up the middle, which was a vulnerable zone for him last year.

I think if you want to evaluate current team defense, look at players with a more normal distribution of ground/air events and hard/medium contact. You see more divergence between BABIP and xBA in cases like Kikuchi and Detmers.

Nobody wants to hear his name again, but Romano was an extreme case of xBA and BABIP divergence before DFA. xBA of .225 vs a BABIP of .455. In his final outing before he was fired, the two singles he surrendered (neither of which made it past the infield) had 78% and 69% out expectancies against a league average defense. You find cases like this with Detmers and Kikuchi as well.

Devin Williams is suffering a similar fate on the Mets right now. xBA of .236, but a BABIP of .591. He has a 9 ERA as a result (while his xERA sits at 4.24). And the Mets have a superior defense than the Angels.

Suffice to say, pitcher BABIPs of .455 and .591 aren’t real things – even in terrible years, BABIP rarely peaks over .320 for these guys, and their career BABIPs are south of .300. These are small sample mirages based on bad defense and bad luck.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 days ago

Did anyone see the prank Paul Skenes played on Connor Griffin? Epic.

https://www.mlb.com/news/why-the-pirates-now-have-a-bounce-house-in-their-clubhouse

I think my prank would be to start rolling in the turtle when our relievers take the mound. It’s kind of how the hitters feel.

toad2065
Trusted Member
19 days ago

Maybe that’s what’s been missing in the Angels’ clubhouse?

tanana40
Super Member
19 days ago

I have been listen regularly to Halo Territory on YouTube. Digiovanna and Trumbo don’t pull any punches.

EHC
Trusted Member
EHC
19 days ago

Wow – are we really longing for the days of Moniak and Ward and Burke? We lost with those guys already. The armchair GMs are hilarious. How many times did you all point out that winning 65 or 75 games doesn’t matter, so why look back?

milehigh
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  EHC

A bit of revisionist history, agreed. Particularly for Moniak who didn’t look that good at the time. But Burke for Lowe was commented on at the time, I believe, and thought to be nuts.
Hopefully the Ward trade for Rodrigiuez eventually works out well.

BannedInLA
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  EHC

I don’t anyone is saying that Burke was a lights out reliever, but, he’s light years better than Hydra known as Romano-Pomeranz-Zefferjahn.

Our BP actually had stretches of OK productivity last year, but, we’re grossly overused.

This year? They’re horrible. Almost all
of them.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Burke is representative of a longstanding tendency with the Angels. Joe Smith. Jose Alvarez. Brock Burke.

All good set-up guys with some multi-inning capacity who put up stable performance in Anaheim for multiple seasons on cheap contracts then are unceremoniously dumped. They then go on to the next team and continue being stable contributors.

BP guys are inherently volatile. So finding stable veterans in their 30s who are both affordable and grow to perform well in a specific park and team environment like Anaheim – that’s not common. In many ways, it’s even more valuable than one or two good seasons at higher cost for a closer.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

The Angels bullpen was not good last year. It posted the 28th best ERA as a unit.

Perry then subtracted the 3 best arms from the bullpen in Jansen, Detmers, and Burke.

Then he hoped that somehow the bullpen would improve.

Granted, the move with Detmers is one to make 10 times out of 10 but you can’t be surprised when we get the results we’ve gotten.

BannedInLA
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Did NOT say they were good last year. I simply said they had stretches of OK production and this year’s BP is even worse.

BannedInLA
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Re: Detmers.

I’m forced to ponder the question – Is he more valuable as a solid reliever vs. a mediocre starter?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Valid question. I’d like to see what he does for a full year as a starter.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

His underlying metrics are still very good – a lot of red on Statcast, high K rates, low walk rates, keeps the ball in the park, average or better barrel rates.

Expected ERA is 2.92. To date, he’s showing the best control and command in his MLB career.

But as I mention upthread, he has the MLB-worst defense behind him. His BABIP is 60+ pts higher than his expected batting average, and his expected ERA 1.3 pts lower than his actual.

At the moment, he should be given a lot of rope. I think team defense, poor catcher quality and a little bad luck are at play.

Terry
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  EHC

Hard to judge the performance of a team owner and GM without reviewing the personnel moves made by them with respect to current state of affairs.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Terry

EHC isn’t evaluating the performance of owner, GM or personnel though.

EHC is evaluating the performance of this community and the commenters who populate it. Always.

2pints
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

EHC is on the record that he doesn’t really like baseball, he just likes the Angels. Make of that what you will.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
19 days ago

I watched the game yesterday and wasn’t that upset. The metaphor for this team is the old under maintained Pinto I drove in college that had too many miles on it. I wasn’t shocked when it didn’t start or brokedown.

2pints
Super Member
19 days ago

I’m just happy that Trout is healthy

Terry
Trusted Member
19 days ago

Let’s see how our old friends are doing;

Ward, Moniak and Marsh in top 30 in mlb batting averages (though Moniak is just shy of necessary plates appearances), but Mickey is so fine at .315, 8 dingers and 15 ribbies.
Burke at .068 era and 6 saves for Kenley. Of course Renigfro is being Renigfro, trolling under the Mendoza line.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Terry

But we got Grayson – don’t discount that.

Terry
Trusted Member
19 days ago

And Grayson’s ERA remains at a Stella 0
00.

Terry
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Stellar

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
19 days ago

Return on Grayson still TBD.

Even at the time of the trade, I said we’d likely see little impact from Rodriguez in year one. If we see value back, it’ll probably be in the last two years of the contract, when the first of the young farm arms begin to arrive. That’s the most optimistic contention window for this club (’28-30).

If he never plays even 20 games in a season, the trade was a bust. But it’s four years of a guy who is only 26. (In comparison, Detmers is three months older and still figuring it out.)

It was certainly silly of Minasian to pencil him in as the #4 guy in the rotation this season – that was a red flag that the GM had conceded the season before it even had begun.

But I think the wisdom of the trade itself can’t be judged for another 2-3 years, honestly.

Last edited 19 days ago by Turk's Teeth
TrojanBoiler
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I remember when everyone here (myself included) was celebrating that we had won the O’Hoppe trade, but boy has that milk gotten sour.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

I thought that no one won that trade – but that it was a pretty even swap at the time. Marsh was my favorite prospect, but the Angels were struggling to unlock his bat, and weren’t giving him adequate playing time to develop him properly.

That was a hard trade for me to accept from a fan perspective, but I also thought it was a good one for Marsh, because he’d have a clearer shot at becoming a strong contributor in PHI. And lo, the Phillies took little time at all in making swing adjustments, and he’s been an above-average player for four seasons running since then.

Pineapple12
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Mickey could do exactly what Lowe is doing except better, and we could’ve kept Burke.
Another Perry masterclass

Terry
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Burke would be huge for the Angels bullpen this year. Moniak also for the outfield, he’s only 27.
Sigh.

milehigh
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I don’t recall a lot of arguments when Mickey was released after the 2024 season where he batted .219. Actually he was released in March 2025.

Should have kept Burke, definitely.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  milehigh

He was the 5th OF at the time but we didn’t have any minor league depth. Ward was only going to be here this year and was getting expensive. Grayson has 5 years of control. The trade was never about this year. It was a lottery ticket that may still have value for a guy who was getting expensive and you weren’t likely to re-sign. I don’t think it was a bad move. We were never going to win this year but the mistake was not pursuing a full rebuild.

Pineapple12
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Or keep Mickey and not trade for Soler.

Perry gave up on Mickey because Paris had a hot ST lol. Bad asset management defines Perry’s tenure

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Agreed.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  milehigh

That’s only because we were all so infatuated with Kyren Paris at the time lol

BannedInLA
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

And we’d still be able to enjoy the β€œHey Mickey” memes.

Pineapple12
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

The real loss !

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Terry

The Burke trade made no sense at the time and even less sense now. Quality outfielders are not available for the cost of a good reliever.

Lowe has been horrible for the Angels. So has the bullpen.

I’m not saying the team is world beaters but it is much better with Rada in center, Trout in left, Burke in the bullpen, and Lowe still in Tampa Bay.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Thanks for the inspiration for this piece. I did not like the Lowe trade at the time and it is aging like raw hamburger in the trunk of a car on a Bakersfield summer day.

Pineapple12
Legend
19 days ago

7th worst record with a good chance to move into last after the NYM series.

Dax Whitney, you are an Angel!

FungoAle
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

2027 The Year of the Dax

Fansince1971
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Does β€œDax” mean season long lockout?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
19 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Dax left Friday’s game in the middle of an at-bat in the 7th. That’s a troubling thing. I haven’t yet seen an update on this

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
19 days ago

See ya blowmano, won’t miss you one bit, same goes with man bun anderson.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
19 days ago

As much as we don’t like those guys I’m not sure we have any better options.

milehigh
Trusted Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I was thinking the moves could be partly because of bringing back Yates and Joyce. I could be off on that, though.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Bring up anyone from the minors. Give them experience over some vets with no recent success. Shaun anderson had never been good, no idea wtf Perry and his team saw in that dude.

steelgolf
Legend
19 days ago

Funny thing is, people were talking about how horrific the Royals bullpen is ….🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣 The Angels showed them that their bullpen is horrific-er. πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

I’m very afraid every time Perry has to find replacements for guys that he previously determined were the best for the team.

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HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 days ago

But I digress. How ’bout that parking?

ArteParking
HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 days ago

If Trout had real protection behind him – and a few more guys getting on base in front of him – he’d likely be hitting 40 points higher and would be breaking 1.000 OPS again. They are so pitching around him because they have little fear looming after him- which is why his OPS is so dang high. It is so sad what they have done to this team and to Mike Trout.

Last edited 19 days ago by HalosFanForLife
Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

So what you’re saying is that it’s just another season of Angels baseball under the ownership of Arte Moreno.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 days ago

Yes, but I actually think we’re at a new low.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
19 days ago

FTFY

We’re at a new Lowe.

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