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LA Angels Tuesday News Crash:

September 24, 2024
Charles Sutton
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Here is a free agent third base preview for the off season that includes Brandon Drury, Jose Iglesias, Gio Urshela, and Miguel Sano. Is there anyone who didn’t play for Angels on this list? Why are these guys on here? Wasn’t Anthony Rendon our third baseman? Iglesias and Drury also appear in this list of free agent second basemen.

Charlie Blackmon will be retiring after this season. The Reds just fired their manager David Bell.

The Cubs just claimed Enoli Paredes off waivers from the Brewers. Speaking of right-handers, the Cubs just claimed Ryan Marinaccio off waivers from the Yankees.

Photo credit: John Henry Weitzel (He took this actual photo of Perry Minasian in his trade making suit.) The Cubs are looking to add a starting pitcher during the off season. Well, duh.

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2002heaven
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2002heaven
20 days ago

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Selected by the Orioles in 2016 RULE 5 DRAFT!!!
plus Brent Rooker of the A’s
 😥  😢  😡  😡 

Last edited 20 days ago by 2002heaven
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Eric_in_Portland
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Eric_in_Portland
20 days ago

Lopez at 2b again. I think Stefanic will be gone in 2025

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GrandpaBaseball
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GrandpaBaseball
20 days ago

The Angels have no choice but to be in the rebuild mode, and after 9 straight upsides down records at the start of October and 2 years longer since making the playoffs, rebuilding is very much a welcomed destination. What we have learned since the 2010 season is that a team needs to build from within through drafts, trading older players who have some value for young potential ladened players.

We have learned that high priced Free Agents do not make a team a winner at the core. The Angels won’t be winners and World Series bound for a while yet in terms of time, but it sure has been fun watching Neto and O’Hoppe and some others emerge, and some others go through the growing pains of learning to become big leaguers. Schanny and Joyce will hopefully improve, and the draft will be a big help for the next few years too. We may not agree with the who gets traded or not, but I think and believe that it can be an exciting off season coming up.

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Mikeal1st
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Mikeal1st
20 days ago

The Angels are rebuilding, whether they admit it or not. In a rebuild, you don’t go after big-name free agents until you’ve established a solid core and just need to fill a few gaps. Right now, the Angels are far from that. They need 2-3 frontline starting pitchers, upgrades at 3-4 positions, and a few fresh arms in the bullpen.
I love this team, but they currently have the third-worst record in baseball and could be on track for their worst season ever. They need to fully commit to the rebuild and trade anything of value that isn’t locked in for at least the next three years. With them being at least a year out of contention—and potentially on the verge of becoming a perennial loser—it makes no sense to invest in free agents, aside from someone who could be flipped for trade bait at the deadline.

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Pineapple12
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Pineapple12
20 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

really good post. I still wouldn’t be opposed to a frontline SP in FA, but the risk may not be worth it.

Riding out the Rendone albatross without adding another is paramount.

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Mikeal1st
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Mikeal1st
20 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I love pitching, but it’s time to lean on an overwhelming value more than a Patch for the losing years ahead. Hopefully, we’re not entering into the perineal worse teams in baseball phase.

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red floyd
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red floyd
20 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

I know the misspelling wasn’t intentional, but given the meaning of perineal, that’s hysterical.

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Born_in_59
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Born_in_59
20 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Isn’t spell check great!

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Roy Hobbs
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Roy Hobbs
20 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

That’s where we’re headed, to the bottom!

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Twebur
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Twebur
20 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Well technically, we are still team perineal, in the middle…..it’s nickname is the taint. Not the top, not the bottom, even though this year, we’re getting much closer to the bottom……but we are really still smack dab in the middle of rebuilding and trying to contend be respectable.

Free us from Team Taint!
Free Arte from embracing the Taint!

Go FBM!
Go Rebuild, even if you won’t admit it!

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Mikeal1st
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Mikeal1st
19 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

I fear I may have started something here, accidentally.

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Mikeal1st
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Mikeal1st
19 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

I never noticed. HAH! Taint too bad of an error!

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halofansince1978
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halofansince1978
20 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

The albatross thing just keeps coming back!!!

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Eric_in_Portland
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Eric_in_Portland
20 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

We rode out the Hamilton albatross, we ride out the Albertross, now we’re riding out Rendon. Then we’ll really be in riding out Trout mode

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2002heaven
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2002heaven
17 days ago
Reply to  Eric_in_Portland

Trout hasn’t been good since 2019….

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
20 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I still don’t understand what the hell a “frontline starter” is supposed to do for us right now accept cross the 30 years old barrier and cost 35M a year for a team that is still sub-.500.

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angelslogic
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angelslogic
20 days ago
Reply to  gitchogritchoffmypettis

*except

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Fansince1971
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Fansince1971
20 days ago
Reply to  gitchogritchoffmypettis

But but but feeeelz like we might win….

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FungoAle
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FungoAle
20 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Perry failed at the deadline moving Anderson, still stings me.

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Mikeal1st
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Mikeal1st
20 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

That was an obvious move, although I think someone on here noted that his BABIP showed he was getting pretty lucky? Possibly a reason he wasn’t moved.

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Fansince1971
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Fansince1971
20 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Maybe there was no interest from other teams?

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Eric_in_Portland
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Eric_in_Portland
20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Worse pitchers got traded. I think Perry wanted to keep him

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jco
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jco
20 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Counterpoint. The 2003 Tigers lost 119 games. That offseason the Tigers signed Ivan Rodriguez to a long-term deal. They were in the World Series two and a half years later.

My point is that there’s more than one way to rebuild.

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Eric_in_Portland
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Eric_in_Portland
20 days ago
Reply to  jco

gee, Dave Dombroski has a good record as a GM

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2002heaven
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2002heaven
20 days ago
Reply to  Eric_in_Portland

Shhhh 🤐
CB26 will get offended!!!

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Roy Hobbs
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Roy Hobbs
20 days ago
Reply to  jco

Absolutely true.

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Roy Hobbs
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Roy Hobbs
20 days ago
Reply to  jco

Unless a decision is made to ignore Rendon’s contract, we’re going to idle for the next 2 years.

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Fansince1971
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Fansince1971
20 days ago

What happened to the Cowboy? Im coming to collect on our bet.

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Cowboy26
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Cowboy26
20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

This Cowboy is currently vacationing in the Greek islands until Sunday. I figured it was the best time of the year to go considering our current streak of ineptitude.

You’ll get your site accolades and honorarium next week when I get around to it since I’m on island time right now. If your childish impatience is too overwhelming until then well…..

Tough Shit and..

méchri tóte, antío pros to parón

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Fansince1971
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Fansince1971
20 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Dude! Enjoy Greece! One of the greatest places I have ever vacationed. It’s truly special. Don’t give another thought to our bet until you return.

Had I known you were on vacation you would not have heard a peep from me. Enjoy!

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2002heaven
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2002heaven
20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

We are Sparta!!

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2002heaven
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2002heaven
20 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m going on a 2 week hiatus soon.
Hopefully CTPG can survive without my incredible wisdom!

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max
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max
20 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

It’s done so, so far

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
20 days ago

From ESPN – grades for all 30 MLB teams. The only team rated lower: the Chicago White Sox. 😢

Los Angeles Angels: F
The Angels are the only active franchise to have never lost 100 games, and while they’ll manage to avoid that again, they do have a shot at the worst season in franchise history (the 1980 team went 65-95 for a .406 winning percentage).

Beginning with the failure to re-sign Ohtani to Mike Trout’s season-ending injury after 29 games to Anthony Rendon playing just 57 games and not hitting a home run, it’s been the usual string of mishaps and mediocrity.

Just last week, they were batting Brandon Drury cleanup — even though he had a .167 average and sub-.500 OPS in 300 at-bats. This is now nine straight losing seasons.

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Fansince1971
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Fansince1971
20 days ago
Reply to  Senator_John_Blutarsky

I would say the FAILURE was not the failure to re-sign Ohtani, it was the failure to recognize he was gone and trading him for a bundle of prospects. Otherwise I am in complete agreement with this indictment.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

ESPN thoughts. LOLWOWZ.

I mean, seriously. You can boil that text down to: “Fk these clowns cause the richest team in baseball took their one good player while they go out of their way to make sure that their other expensive players are hurt.”

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RexFregosi
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RexFregosi
20 days ago
Reply to  Senator_John_Blutarsky

Hell with all those divisional or playoff clinching scenarios this week

as the Senator states, ESPN just handed out only two F’s for MLB 2024 season— and guess what?

They play tonight – and not just for a season of ineptitude, but for the all-time record!!

make 121, 122, and 123

glorious times

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2002heaven
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2002heaven
20 days ago
Reply to  Senator_John_Blutarsky

That’s what happens when you have a stubborn old rich man making all the player personnel decisions like that 82 yr old guy in Dallas.

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halofansince1978
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halofansince1978
20 days ago

Great outing by Seattle’s Miller.

Jerry’s Kids still in it…1.5 WC back.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
20 days ago
Reply to  halofansince1978

Whether you hate or love Jedi, he did build a strong top of the rotation in Seattle with young, cost controlled talent.

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ihearhowie3.0
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ihearhowie3.0
20 days ago
Reply to  Senator_John_Blutarsky

Only took 9 years of compulsively churning players and trading everyone even when they were competitive in July.

IMO Dipoto is criminally overrated. He was given free reign to tear that team down and trade anyone he wanted and they were running place for years. About a decade later in an era with more playoff spots they’re still a fringe team.

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Pineapple12
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Pineapple12
20 days ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

2021 – 90 wins
2022 – 90 wins
2023 – 88 wins
2024 – 80 wins and counting

I struggle to see JeDi as anything other than an above average GM.

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WallyChuckChili
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WallyChuckChili
20 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

As an Angels fan, those wins would have been Sexy!

Whistle!

Chain me to the Wall!

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
20 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m not a fan of Jedi, but your assessment is accurate.

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Roy Hobbs
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Roy Hobbs
20 days ago
Reply to  Senator_John_Blutarsky

I agree. You don’t have to like him personally or professionally, or want him to be your GM, But he has had some level of success which is more than you can say for any of his successors here.

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FungoAle
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FungoAle
20 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

He’s an ass

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GrandpaBaseball
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GrandpaBaseball
20 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I agree, but sometimes it takes an ass to make the tough calls and to make a winning team. Building a team into a winning team doesn’t happen in just 2 or 3 seasons, Jedi thinks he can pull that off though.

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MarineLayer
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MarineLayer
20 days ago
Reply to  GrandpaBaseball

Minasian simply isn’t an improvement over him, just another version of a mediocre GM with a far worse track record.

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GrandpaBaseball
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GrandpaBaseball
20 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

We can agree to disagree on Minasian, he may not be the best, but he has to contend with Arte, which Jedi could not do, he has not had the platers to trade to bring up the team’s performance, but he hits with trades more than misses. Minasian has done above average in the draft, just not great. Rebuilding the minors from #30 to the top 15 takes a while, especially since arte does not understand that the minors are more important than he likes to believe.

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GrandpaBaseball
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GrandpaBaseball
20 days ago
Reply to  GrandpaBaseball

platers = players.

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MarineLayer
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MarineLayer
20 days ago
Reply to  GrandpaBaseball

Except every trade deadline 2023 trade, while emptying our already empty farm system.

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Roy Hobbs
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Roy Hobbs
20 days ago
Reply to  GrandpaBaseball

Actually, Jedi had a winning record with Arte and he was right in his assessment that the organizations was a mess and a clown show. For better or worse, he was supposed to be Mike’s boss and that didn’t work.

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Roy Hobbs
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Roy Hobbs
20 days ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Be that as it may, he’s been far more successful than any of our GMs and we have Trout and did have Ohtani.

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halofansince1978
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halofansince1978
20 days ago

SD can still win the NL West.

They are hot at the right time.

Go Friars…anybody but blue!!

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steelgolf
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steelgolf
20 days ago

That 3rd baseman free agent list is filled with uninspiring names . There is Bregman who is destined to be on the downhill slide via age, and a huge drop off from there. I wouldn’t offer any of them a contract.

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Born_in_59
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Born_in_59
20 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

The team is already paying big bucks for a third baseman, so I don’t think adding another expensive one will help. I’m warming to the idea of signing Moncada to play when Rendon goes on the IL next season, and I wouldn’t mind Urshela back in that role either. At this point, I see Rengifo manning second base until Moore is called up.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
20 days ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

B Buh Buttt…. if Perry werez a real man he’d just cut Rendon. Right?

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Born_in_59
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Born_in_59
20 days ago
Reply to  gitchogritchoffmypettis

Refresh my memory, who was the GM when Albert was cut loose?

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Roy Hobbs
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Roy Hobbs
20 days ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

I like Rengifo a lot more at 3B than 2B. he’s pretty solid at 3rd but a liability at 2B.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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20 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Totally agree. Any “top” free agent will seek a long-term contract (5+ years), and at best those types of deals are complete crap shoot. Much of the “monetary value” of free agents is based on past performance not future results. The Angels just can’t afford to be players given the realities of our budget or the status of where we are in the rebuild (we’re in inning 2 of what will be a multi-year project).

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MarineLayer
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MarineLayer
20 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Thank goodness SF saved us by signing aging Chapman for $150 million. That sounds like something stupid we typically do.

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halofansince1978
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halofansince1978
20 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Speaking of that albatross thing.

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Roy Hobbs
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Roy Hobbs
20 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I know you don’t like him but he would actually be a good solution for us and his contract is very reasonable. He would also make Rengifo completely expendable. he would be the best hitter on our team after Trout and play above average defense at a position we have no current solution for. The only question is how you think he will do going forward. He’s already aged better than anyone on our team. The 40M we’re spending on Rendon is a real drag which is why I don’t see the team being competitive until he goes off the books in 2027.

The questions is do you sort of hold the fort down while you’re rebuilding or do you do you just win 65 games a year for the next 5 years. Adding 1 player a year is not likely to result in success. I realize rebuilding takes time but so far, we haven’t gone hard rebuild yet and we’re still the 2nd worst team in the league. I’m not suggesting any particular path just making observations.

This was a year of evaluation, I will be interested to see how things unfold over the winter and next year. I still believe that because 2026 is the last year of Perry’s contract that he is going to want to show progress by then so that he can land his next job.

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