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So here we go with the “Will Reid Detmers Get His Act Together” game. Schanuel still has his thumb boo boo do Willie Calhoun at first.

Through two, this one was a pitcher’s duel. Looked at another way, neither side had a batter who managed a hit. Let’s face it. The Mariners pitcher was throwing primarily fastballs, so it’s not like our guys didn’t know what was coming. Over half of them struck out anyway.

Mickey Moniak stepped up in the third inning with a two out double that was almost a home run. It didn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Taylor Ward struck out.

Detmers finally coughed up the first run of the game on a Julio Rodriguez single in the bottom of the third inning. 1-0 Mariners.

You never know. That might have been the only “highlight” I get to show you.

In the bottom of the fourth, Detmers walked the number 8 and number 9 batters to load up the bases. Mitch Haniger had singled. OK. Here is the ultimate low-light of this game. (The grande salami off Detmers.)

I now no longer hold out hope it is because of the Angels’ schedule. The Angels suck this year. Set it in stone.

They brought in Carson Fulmer to pitch and there was no further damage.

As long as we are doing lowlights, Luke Rayley homered in the bottom of the sixth to make it 6-0 Mariners.

Go Angels!

Luis Rengifo did something kind of cool while we were in the process of losing this game.

Julio Rodriguez also singled to drive in a run. 7-0. Cal Raleigh doubled to drive in both Dylan Moore and Julio Rodriguez. 9-0 Mariners.

Cole Tucker pitched a scoreless bottom of the eighth with some 48 mile per hour gas and fielded his position.

He’s obviously a soft tosser, though, compared to Sano. When do we get Sano back?

The Angels very seriously lost this game 9-0. Y’all hear me? I said 9-0 and our “closer” was pitching at 48 miles per hour. Kevin Pillar singled, at least, to keep his hitting streak alive. Matt Thaiss gRounded out to keep the shutout alive. The Angels lost 9-0.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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We have a “winner”

The Angels have signed left-hander CD Pelham to a minor league deal, as announced by the Mexican League’s Leones de Yucatan on Friday. Pelham is represented by Pro Edge Sports Management.

The 29-year-old joined the Rangers organization after being selected in the 33rd round of the 2015 draft and eventually worked his way through the club’s minor league system to make his big league debut back in 2018. That brief cup of coffee in the majors didn’t go well, as Pelham struggled to a 7.04 ERA in 7 2/3 innings of work across ten appearances with seven strikeouts and four walks.

FungoAle
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11 days ago

Ah yes, Minasian waiver wire trash pickup

El_Duderino
Trusted Member
11 days ago

I have a sickness and the only cure is more Mike Trout.

RexFregosi
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

I visited his B-Ref page yesterday.

He is 50th all time in bWAR

Fansince1971
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11 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I get how great he was. We all witnessed that. But that is the past.

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

Apart from watching the kids (hopefully) develop into solid players, I just want to see Mike Trout come back and rake (hopefully) like he did after the spinal thing in 2022.

Cowboy26
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11 days ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

Who?

2002heaven
Super Member
11 days ago

90 days in……..Yep, right again.
Some of you said that Washington was the RIGHT GUY because he’s old and experienced. THE OLDEST BTW, now that Dusty Baker retired, meanwhile I said they shouldve hired Jayce Tingler. who’s still young at 43 and maybe hired Wash as bench coach. BTW I also already said MLB field managers and bullpens still don’t matter the same way as they do in college FB, the NFL or college BB.
Not saying you’re all wrong, just saying I was right……again.

El_Duderino
Trusted Member
11 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Is it Washington or the lousy players?

MarineLayer
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11 days ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

Both.

Brent
Super Member
11 days ago

The win finally gave the M’s a positive run differential for the season. Texas also has one with their 7-0 win last night.

Eric_in_Portland
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11 days ago

Just read Joyce is being called up

Twebur
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11 days ago

Not 5 minutes ago I’m reading (recent article) where Wash says he’s not ready, still walking too many people.

So I must assume they’ve fixed that concern in the past 24 hours, it’s a miracle!

FungoAle
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11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Discord…it’s showing on and off the field

Last edited 11 days ago by FungoAle
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

Unfortunately Wash’s attention span is 3 minutes

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 days ago

Another bad move by the Angels. We need good players more than anything else, not a good infield coach, which is fine, but isn’t a difference-maker.

Cowboy26
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11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Any other move would have a required bringing up some puss thrower or a 40 man roster move so the Angels hands were tied in even if this move is just temporary for a couple of weeks.

But I’m not sure why Wash would make that comment . In Joyce’s last 10 appearances ( 11-1/3 innings) Joyce has only walked 3 batters while striking out 21 . Thats yielded a .62 WHIP and 1.59 ERA and a .329 OPS against . I know that was against AA batters but sheesh. Maybe he got his Joyces mixed up. They are twins you know.

Last edited 11 days ago by Cowboy26
MarineLayer
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

And Washington is past his sell-by date. Maybe those two concepts will balance each other out. 😀 

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
11 days ago

The Angels, by any measure, are a better hitting team than the Mariners, the difference is the Mariners give up approximately 1.25 fewer runs per game.

steelgolf
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Well, yesterday’s measure had the Mariners at 9 runs on 9 hits, The Angels had 0 runs on 3 hits? That measurement says the Mariners hit better.

Twebur
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11 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

If the Angels are a vastly better hitting team than the M’s, I truly feel bad for the good people of Seattle.

2002heaven
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Small market always have a hard time scoring..
Limited funds, BTW Seattle is a small market team not Anaheim.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

I only said they were better not vastly better.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Against our pitching 🙄

Cowboy26
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11 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Try it again. Yes but Angels Batters dont get to face the Angel Pitchers. This has always been a major problem with this team

steelgolf
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Wait ….. what???? The batters don’t get to face the hitters? Is this baseball?

Angelstan
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Good move sending Detmers down. He is searching for answers. I don’t understand his patterns either. I used to believe (and still do to some extent) that his curve is his best pitch. He doesn’t use it as often as I’d expect. He instead seems to be using his inaccurate, very hittable fastball more — which is the opposite of what Sandy is doing. Detmers has been up for years now so “rushing them” I don’t think can be the excuse anymore. He has had multiple off-seasons etc. to work out any kinks. He does need time now though to figure out what is going on.

BTW this is the type of player that if we ever trade him, he will become a quality arm for another team somehow.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Angelstan

We clearly haven’t destroyed what value remains with him….yet. By 2027 he’ll be so broken that no one team fix him. Brandish got out in time. Detmers will be working at the car wash with Adell and Newcomb.

FungoAle
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11 days ago

Maybe call Lenny “Nails” Dykstra to see if he has any openings at his Corona car wash. 1.5 stars on Yelp, send help now.

steelgolf
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I thought he sold that years ago?

Cowboy26
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11 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Yep he needed to raise bail money

2002heaven
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

On his way to becoming Dylan Bundy 2.0.
Sad ain’t it, I guess if you keep rushing players into the fire like the Chicago Bears who I guarantee you will ruin Caleb Williams just like they did Justin Fields, then this rabbit hole will only get deeper.

Angelstan
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10 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

We will see. On Caleb Williams, there are multiple schools of thought in the NFL. First, Williams played as a freshman. He then won the Heisman later. He even came back for a year after that. So he’s got experience to go to the next level.
Second, a split exists in thought as to whether playing guys and letting them learn is best or whether sitting them for part of a season is better. Manning, Aikman, and others believe you learn by playing. Rodgers and Mahomes learned by sitting. Both approaches have worked. It all depends.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Clearly Detmers has underperformed for two seasons, but there’s also this:

“Detmers’ demotion could have implications on the lefty’s service time if he spends most of the remainder of the 2024 campaign in the minor leagues. The lefty entered the 2024 season with two years and 64 days worth of service time and has currently accrued 65 days worth of service time to this point in the season. Players accrue 172 days worth of service time across a full season in the majors, meaning Detmers will need to spend at least 43 more days on the major league roster or injured list this season in order to finish the year with three years of service time. If he spends less than 43 days in the big leagues throughout the rest of the 2024 season, the lefty’s first opportunity to reach free agency will be pushed back from after the 2027 campaign until after the 2028 campaign.”

Last edited 11 days ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
11 days ago

Very good point. That is a lot of motivation under the current circumstances to keep him down for until late August or September . He would still have 4 years of club control. Schanuel is in the same boat. If you sent him down you could save a year of club control. Nothing to do with Detmers, but rushing players to the majors before they’re actually ready just uses up service time before they’re actually ready. It’s stupid under the circumstances and poor management. If they were smart, after last year, they might have done the same with Neto (who’s only 23) and save all those guys for next year.

Last edited 11 days ago by Roy Hobbs
El_Duderino
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11 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

At some point we need to play somebody though, and these dudes aren’t exactly HoF’ers waiting in the wings.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
11 days ago

One could argue they are manipulating (thought that was Eppler’s go-to), but given the performance it does seem justified. I guess we will know if he is killing it in AAA and they don’t call him up again right away.

FungoAle
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11 days ago

Detmers was fine last year pitching for a sub-par team and porous defense. Gave up less hits than innings pitched and punched out greater than 10 per 9 innings.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  FungoAle

True. 2022 was his best statistical season. He regressed in 2023. He regressed further in 2024.

halofansince1978
Super Member
12 days ago

Detmers to AAA…it’s about F’ing time.

It does not matter who they bring up.

Bring up some kids and let them play.

So everybody will get a cup of coffee.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
11 days ago

I don’t want to rush anyone – if there is someone (like Soriano) that is basically ready. Sounds like we will see another reliever for a bit, not needing a 5th starter for about two weeks.

halofansince1978
Super Member
11 days ago

Indeed…the reason this is happening is because they have rushed all of them.

halofansince1978
Super Member
11 days ago

Bringing a kid up for a month with the understanding that they’re going back down, once Detmers gets his act together, is not rushing anybody.

Twebur
Legend
11 days ago

Do we do a Panda Exchange with People Republic of Alabama?

Or go fishing in the Salty Lake?

No in house help, correct? Not going to call up a reliever and throw Suarez in there/bullpen game?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

I’m sure Perry can find someone in the Home Depot parking lot looking for day labor jobs. Better yet, every 5th have the puppet Roger Lodge run a drawing where the 50th caller gets to pitch.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
11 days ago

Maybe not, but we have done that in the past. I just hope they choose someone who could benefit from the opportunity and not someone who gets bombed, rattled and loses their confidence.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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There’s really no reason to rush Detmers back in 2024. The team is going nowhere, and Detmers being in the minors clearly doesn’t hurt his trade value since it’s pretty low already. Let him marinate in the SLC summer and get his head right for 2025.

halofansince1978
Super Member
12 days ago

Canning and Sandoval better get the memo quick.

Start pitching like major leaguers or be sent down.

Twebur
Legend
11 days ago

Canning far from an ace, had a rough start to the season, but he has gone at least 5 innings last 8 starts, keeps us in most games.
That is a solid #5 starter that a lot of MLB teams would take. Last time I checked, MLB average start is about 5 innings.

Sandy could learn a thing or 2 from Canning

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

Canning is the epitome of overrated. Every year fans blabber on about “this being his year”, and every season he looks like long relief. He is what he is.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Too bad this game isn’t at the Big A. In Canning’s last 5 starts at the Big A, the Angels are 4-1 . And the only loss was when dumbass Charlie Sheen couldn’t hold a 1-0 lead in the 9th against the Royals

Fansince1971
Legend
12 days ago

The rumor appears to be true:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/06/angels-option-reid-detmers-2.html

No corresponding move.

Last edited 12 days ago by Fansince1971
angelslogic
Super Member
12 days ago

Fletcher for Detmers, straight up.

steelgolf
Super Member
12 days ago
Reply to  angelslogic

😆 Fletch is going to reinvent himself as the second coming of Wakefield!

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 days ago

Remember a short while ago when we were bad but Roger Lodge was all excited about us only being 6 or 7 games out. We’re 11 games back now in both our division and for the last wild card including being 2 games behind the A’s.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Roger is a few cans short of a six-pack

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 days ago

 🙂 

Fansince1971
Legend
12 days ago

Roger is paid to express optimism even if it is completely misplaced.

Last edited 12 days ago by Fansince1971
steelgolf
Super Member
12 days ago

According to Angels Top Plays account on Instagram, Detmers is being optioned to Triple A. I’m doubtful since I don’t think Silseth or any other pitcher is ready to take his slot, but stranger things have happened.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  steelgolf

If true, what is he going to learn in the thin air of SLC? Barry Enright was supposed to be the pitching guru of gurus. Has the franchise been hiding someone in SLC that is better than Enright?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 days ago

Apparently someone down there fixed him last year and maybe the same person can fix him this year. He really needs to grow up and get after fixing himself..

FungoAle
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11 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

In 2022 Detmers was sent down 6 starts after tossing a no hitter. He credited roving pitching coordinator, Buddy Carlyle for film work to zero in on some mechanics. Buddy was purged after Percival blasted his use of iPads in pitcher development and really, poor results. Buddy has the same role now with the Rays. It’s clear, Enright cannot isolate the issues, maybe Perry should trade for Buddy’s iPad secret sauce.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

We really do have a messed up organization

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

We are incredibly good at what we do…..

FungoAle
Legend
12 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I don’t care how bad he’s been pitching but that’s a weak move, Perry

Last edited 12 days ago by FungoAle
Eric_in_Portland
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12 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

If we go look at who’s been DFA’ed from other teams in the last few days we’ll likely find our new starter

steelgolf
Super Member
12 days ago

😆

steelgolf
Super Member
12 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

It’s official, they sent him down to Salt Lake.

angelslogic
Super Member
12 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I’m fine with that.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
12 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Silseth is on his rehab assignment and we have some time before the slot comes up again but I think you’re right, it won’t be Silseth. No idea what Perry has in mind

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
12 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Suarez to the starting rotation . 🫠🫠

steelgolf
Super Member
12 days ago

😂

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 days ago

12 Ks and 1 BB, maintaining consistency. Feels like August. We have a ways to go. We need a win tomorrow but we don’t do well during the day.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

We don’t do well in the day. We don’t do well at night. We do t do well in the morning. We don’t do well in the afternoon.

We seem to be running out of options?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 days ago

I know.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
12 days ago

So… .
We just don’t do well.

MarineLayer
Super Member
12 days ago

Jeff Fletcher reports Detmers demoted. Yay? Can they just demote everybody and activate the Trash Pandas.

FungoAle
Legend
12 days ago

I really thought this team was a World Series contender but now, doubt is creeping in

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 days ago

Apparently we’re not as good as Seattle.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

We have a better shot at the division at this rate.

(Better does not equal good, just to be clear).

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