LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Meetup

Thanks to those of you who have already picked up tickets for tomorrow night’s site meetup. For those of you who were unsure of your plans for tomorrow but can now make it, you’ll be able to find us in section 201. I’ll be in Row H. So come join us and nab yourself a Madalorian Rally Monkey.

Last week I was pretty optimistic in the links. The Angels proceeded to get swept in Cincinnatti then predictably lose 2 of 3 to Baltimore.

That last loss to Baltimore was a game the Angels should have won. Ron Washington pretty much gave up, though, and inserted gas can Jose Suarez into a 2-0 game despite having an off day to rest the bullpen.

Yes, that is a manager incorrectly stating the score at the time of a bad decision. And it isn’t like Suarez only sucked on Wednesday. He’s been bad all year and before this.

The fact of the matter is in baseball there are very few players who can win you a game. Ohtani, Trout, Acuna and a handful of others. However, bad teams have a handful of players who can single handedly lose you a game. Guys like Jose Suarez and Jose Cisnero. Good teams like Baltimore simply wait out bad teams until they get to the punching bag.

Of course, getting screwed by a horrible call to end the game didn’t help. At least the Angels announcers called the replay what it was: a joke.

Pitching depth was obviously the Angels biggest need this off season. Perry Minasian signed one big ticket item to fix that problem. Robert Stephenson, fresh off the only three good months of his career, received $33 million guaranteed to pitch for 3 seasons. Well, he won’t pitch this year or most of next year as he’s the latest Angel to need Tommy John surgery.

Perry passed up more proven starting pitching options like Michael Lorenzen to sign Stephenson. And that, predictably, has bitten him right in the backside.

Just to rub salt in the wound, Lorenzen is on a one year deal with only $4.5 million guaranteed. Even if he meets all of his bonuses he’ll still cost 64% of Stephenson in 2024 and $26 million less in total salary.

The one highlight of the season has been Mike Trout. At least when the bases are empty.

Mike Trout isn’t only hitting bombs, he’s running again. That’s a great piece by FanGraphs with lots of video. I highly recommend it.

As for the highlight of this week, it has to go to Miguel Sano. Dude is playing a great third base and hitting the ball hard. I don’t think any of us expected to see a play like this when he was signed.

From around baseball:

Last week I said I wanted to see Elly De La Cruz live. He had more highlight reel moments against the Angels. He can turn pretty much anything into a run.

Cody Bellinger is on the IL with broken ribs. That doesn’t seem good for a sport that involves so much twisting. I cracked a couple ribs sparring at my old gym and it was amazing how much every cough and sneeze hurt.

Jared Walsh is a free agent. He’s likely going to get a minors deal and I’d love to bring him back.

Enjoy your weekend, try to swing by section 201 tomorrow, and link what I missed. For the first time in a couple of weeks I am not hosting an open house so I am looking forward to two days of non stop family time.

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FungoAle
Super Member
21 days ago

Pretty dreadful stats amongst the Twins lineup. Sandy has a decent chance if he can work the strike zone. Angels a mild favorite -120. Wonder what Ippei thinks about that line tonight?

Last edited 21 days ago by FungoAle
steelgolf
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I think Ippei’s credit line has been severely reduced.

Last edited 21 days ago by steelgolf
Cowboy26
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Whatever he thinks make sure you go the opposite

halofansince1978
Super Member
Mia
Legend
Mia
21 days ago

Amazing how quickly we’ve come to rely on Sano. If he does it for more than a few weeks i’m gonna need to find a crow to eat.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

I like this line up

Mia
Legend
Mia
Legend
Mia
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I was actually letting myself start to believe he was gonna stay healthy this year. The hopium creeps up on you from time to time. But yeah, it was inevitable.

I wonder if guys can still get away with not stretching or lifting like Weave did back in the day.

FungoAle
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Not sure this is bad luck, creates opportunities for the kids and certainly, more likable players

Mia
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Mia
21 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Rendon had become a decent bat in the few weeks before his injury. Felt like he was close to really finding his groove.

But next man up, absolutely.

steelgolf
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Mia

I hate to say it, but I had a feeling we wouldn’t see him again until late August or September. Keeping with his 40 +- games per season average.

smithy610
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Man, what bad luck Rendon has had. Super freakish injuries every year.

I wonder, with this latest injury, if thoughts of retirement will start creeping up in his head.

BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

I was bouncing that one around my mind. I’d set the line at +300 that he does.

Mia
Legend
Mia
21 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Yep — how much more do you want to break the body you have to live in for the next 50 years.

2GA2Join
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Mia

We know that he commented on how is sucked he couldn’t even pick up his own kids and that kind of stuff… so who knows…

Last edited 21 days ago by 2GA2Join
Mia
Legend
Mia
21 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Yeah, I was thinking about the same comments. He’s made a hell of a bag, how much more do you really need?

BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Rendon’s injury history + the deafening dearth of information from AngelDom basically told us that it was a tear. I’m not sure that we’ll see him again this season. Again. What a bummer.

Fansince1971
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Partial hamstring tear takes 5-6months minimum.

Mia
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Mia
21 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

All i’m hearing is he’ll be back for the playoffs!

FungoAle
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Nice…lol

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Didn’t know it was quite that severe but I said at the time he wasn’t returning for a while. Sano has done a great job of replacing him. Possibly a blessing in disguise. Not wishing anyone an injury and I was happy with the way Rendon was playing but it does open the door for Sano.

BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago

Any idea if Sano is back? Same question for Moore?

I’ll take a stab at tonight’s lineup:

CF – Trout
1B – Schanuel
LF – Ward
3B – Sano
C – O’Hoppe
RF – Moniak
DH – Adell
2B – Rengifo
SS – Neto

If Sano isn’t available, I presume it’s Rengifo at 3rd and Adrianza at 2B.

RexFregosi
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Since Day 1 in February, Wash’s attitude and treatment of Jo Adell has been that the young man is lucky to be on his team. And if he is, he’s going to be seated at the end of the bench.

The approach seems to be working just fine.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Refreshing take Rex. Seems that the common thread around here is insert ______, until they don’t do too well and new player is added into the blank. If anyone knows how’s to coach and develop a young African American player, it’s Washington. Adell has had ample opportunities to go out, play, prove. He hasn’t done that well. I think the current strategy is lighting AFI (a fire inside, music rec of the day). Wednesday’s abomination at 2B will add a further chip onto his me against the world mentality that imo will help him take the next step. Go Jo Go

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

Not sure what he’s supposed to do. He has the highest OPS+ on the team (164) and if you projected his counting stats for the same ABs as the regulars he would have 6 HRs 18 RBIs and 15 SBs. Along with Trout and Ward, he is one of the 3 most productive players in the line up but we should play Hicks or Moniak instead who have OPS+s of 20 and 12? Or Brandon Drury at 57. I have not even been a Jo Adell fan but he’s currently one of our 3 best players. How do you not play him.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Not sure what he’s supposed to do… most likely continue to put projected stats into actual stats backed with better defense and base running?
I dunno, appreciate your comment. I side with Washington regarding how to play Adell specifically. It’s a long season. Guess we’ll see.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
21 days ago

The highest batting average and the highest OPS on the team are not projected statistics, they are actual statistics

Angels2020Champs
Legend
21 days ago

He’s started literally 1/2 the games next to his closest comp, O’Hoppe. Thats 10 games. We are barely 15% of the way into the season. Me liking the way Wash is coaching him and almost everyone hoping he plays more goes hand in hand. At one point, Trout was on pace to hit a HR every AB this season.

2GA2Join
Super Member
22 days ago

I just read the beginning of the article on MLBTR about Holliday being optioned.

Something to remember, when we’re tempted to say how poor we are as Angels fans and lament how we’re the only ones who have top ranked prospects who come to the bigs and then don’t perform.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

He is only 20 years old, but you are correct.

BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Didn’t Wash also say that he’ll go with the “Hot Hand” vis-a-vis the lineup? Adell is by any metric, “hot”. Play the man.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
22 days ago

Sandy tonight. I think we’ll win

SD19
Member
22 days ago

Pumped to take my 4 yr old to his first game tomorrow. It’s for his t ball little league so I’m sure he’ll just goof off with his friends the whole game but just hoping he can make it the whole game so he can see the fireworks which I know he will enjoy.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
22 days ago

Jazzed to see a bunch of you tomorrow. I dug my Bobby Grich jersey out so I’ll be recognizable!!!

Angels2020Champs
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

You’re the man Jim, can’t wait to shake your hand!

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
22 days ago

Robert Stephenson, fresh off the only three good months of his career

This is the difference in one out of ten games. The doyers don’t seem to do this.

MarineLayer
Super Member
22 days ago

What about Sano? I’d hate to lose him.

Twebur
Legend
22 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

No news, is usually bad news. trAdition

steelgolf
Super Member
22 days ago

9 am on Friday, 4/26/24, and Suarez still has a roster spot.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

The good news is that maybe Ron Washington will consider him unavailable to pitch today.

steelgolf
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Unfortunately, nope, because he had a day off.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Wish I was fishin’ with you this weekend but have some scouts and volunteering to do with my kids, plus going tomorrow night. Would be awesome to get a CtPG golf game and/or fishing excursion in at some point. Hope you get to call it catching’ not just fishin’

steelgolf
Super Member
21 days ago

Fishing trip was cancelled yesterday. Winds will be up with small craft warnings for outside of the Channel Islands. The exact place we were going to fish! Rescheduled for October.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Congratulations, and thank you for all that you do to keep this site together.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

That’s awesome Jeff!!

steelgolf
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Congratulations!!!

MarineLayer
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Congrats on it all, Jeff!

halofansince1978
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Easy Does It Brother.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

See you tomorrow, Jeff!!!

2GA2Join
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Congrats on that sir.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Happy that you are here commiserating with us.

angelslogic
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Congrats!

Fansince1971
Legend
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Big accomplishment! Takes a lot of self-discipline. Congrats!!

Last edited 22 days ago by Fansince1971
MikeHuggins
Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Way to go! You’re a great part of this Site.

Mia
Legend
Mia
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

That’s awesome, Jeff!

Congratulations!

red floyd
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Well done, Jeff!

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
22 days ago

As a local kid, and someone who enjoyed playing here, I bet Lorenzen would have re-signed on a team friendly deal to come back to Anaheim. Thought Perry should have signed him in the offseason, another lost opportunity.

That replay review is garbage as Randazzo said. Absolute garbage.

I’d like to see Walsh back with the Angels as well, even if it down at Salt Lake until we need to bring him up.

Twebur
Legend
22 days ago

Free Randazzo and Gubbi!

F NY.

FungoAle
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Angels and their announcers need to move on from the bad calls and focus on the next game. Listening to LeCon and the Lakers bitch about the refs is embarrassing.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I had no issue with the complaints that day and yesterday since we had no game, but today it’s time to move on. And there’s no guarantee they would have won the game, they simply lost the opportunity. But the review was incorrect and I don’t know how they missed it. And since everyone can see what the announcers are seeing, I’ve always found them to be very objective in their assessment after seeing the replay by stating he’s either clearly out, clearly safe, or the evidence is not sufficient to overturn the call regardless of the call on the field or the which team is involved.

Fansince1971
Legend
22 days ago

So was the decision to put in Suarez a -1 WAR against his predicted 15 WAR?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Very possible

2GA2Join
Super Member
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Although, to be completely fair, this is in retrospect.

At the time, Perry had Sandoval, Detmers, Anderson, Silseth and Canning to start. If he signed another FA starter, that starter would want to be told “you are going to start”. Which would have meant that one of those starting 5 would have been moved to the BP or AAA. And all 5 of those guys are definitely at the point of keeping or trying to earn a starting job in MLB. At some point they need to be given the chance. This “rebuild” season is the perfect time for it. So I can see a perspective where we don’t sign Lorenzen.
Of course, now we know that Silseth is injured, so we need another starter.

2GA2Join
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

True that.
OK, I suppose it more boils down to what we believe was the right way to handle Silseth from the beginning of the season. Fair enough.

BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I kinda’ like Soriano the starter, but your point is well
taken.

Canning might be another guy better suited for long relief as well. Time will tell either way

Cowboy26
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I think Kenny Rosenberg could take Suarez spot in the pen tomorrow. he’s already on the 40 man so this is a no brainer. Theres NFW Rosey could be any worse.

BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m surprised that Suarez wasn’t designated. He’s even worse than Cisneros.

Cowboy26
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Cisneros (recognizing it’s probably all been in lower leverage situations) has actually pitched better as of late. The last 6 appearances , 8 IPs, 1.13 ERA 7 K’s and a 1.125 WHIP.

Suarez has been consistently awful the entire year.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Cisnero’s ERA was infinity for a while as I recall. He’s come back a long way.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

As well as last year.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Suarez/Rendon

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steelgolf
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

To be fair, Bartolo is a shape.

halofansince1978
Super Member
22 days ago

Let’s Go Halo!!!

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