LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Wheeler Dealer

The Angels released Richie Martin yesterday.

The Phillies extended Zack Wheeler for three years at an AAV of $42 Million. They have supposedly not discussed acquiring Blake Snell, or not seriously anyway. Neither have the Cardinals. The Dodgers acquired infielder Andre Lipcius from the Tigers for cash considerations. Nationals outfielder Daylen Lile went over the outfield wall head first trying to rob a home run. He went to the hospital but he’s out now and will probably be fine.

Josh Donaldson announced his retirement. Former big league shortstop U.L. Washington died on Sunday of cancer at the age of 70.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

61 Comments
Newest
Oldest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

Rendon injured.

Incoming flood of commentary.

FungoAle
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Comments pertaining to his strained testicles?

Angels2020Champs
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Pretty sure it’s labia majora

Fansince1971
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

His lack of any heart is significant

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

The discomfort will be gone in about 3 years.

steelgolf
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Rendone…… injured ……. Has he made it through 30% of the spring training games yet?

FungoAle
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Looks like the good old boys talk ol’ Wash had with Anthony has paid off

steelgolf
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

As expected.

Fansince1971
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Not to mention the strength and conditioning investment

red floyd
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

comment image

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

Why is today’s game at 5PM?

cookmeister
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

because that’s when it is scheduled

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago

Taco Tuesday mofos!!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago

From “The Athletic” free daily news drop. The Article is written by Ken Rosenthal.

TEMPE, Ariz. — Mike Trout hears the noise. Trout is content to be with the Angels. He doesn’t want to win. He won’t demand a trade. It doesn’t bother him. Quite the opposite, in fact.

“It fuels me more,” Trout said last week in an interview I conducted with him for Fox Sports. “The overall satisfaction, when we do win here, it will be greater than if I did go somewhere else.

“So when I hear, ‘Trout needs to get traded,’ or, ‘He’s happy to be there,’ they can say whatever they want. I’ve got one thing on my mind. That’s trying to win here.”
Advertisement

Scoff if you must. Fangraphs projects the Angels to finish 78-84, ahead of only the pitiful A’s in the American League West. PECOTA has them at 74-88.

Trout, 32, isn’t ignoring the obvious as the team appears destined to miss the playoffs for the 10th straight season — that’s why he continues to lobby management for free-agent additions. But he does have one other thing on his mind, something that would help boost the team’s performance.

He wants to return to MVP form.

Let’s not forget who Trout is, a player who finished first or second in the MVP voting seven times in eight years between 2012 and 2019. As recently as 2022, he hit 40 homers in only 119 games. Last season, he had 18 homers before July 3, but played in only one game after that because of a left hamate fracture he suffered fouling off a pitch. He finished with an .858 OPS, a career-low.

With Shohei Ohtani now across town with the Dodgers, Mike Trout once again is the Angels’ lone superstar.

It was Trout’s third straight season of missing significant time. In 2021, he did not play after May 17 because of a strained right calf. In 2022, he missed more than a month because of left rib cage inflammation. The injuries, Trout said, prevented him from getting into a proper offensive rhythm, the kind only consistent at-bats provide. “I haven’t been able to get into a stretch,” he said, “where I can be me.”

Trout, though, does not believe he is in decline. As he first told the Orange County Register, he identified a problem in his approach that he said has hampered him for the past year and a half. He is “sliding” into his swing instead of maintaining a strong base.
The effect is evident in his numbers. Trout batted .316 on all fastballs (four-seam, two-seam and cutters) through 2021. That average fell to .285 in 2022 and .254 in 2023. His whiff percentage on fastballs the past four seasons went from 14.1 percent to 19.1 to 26.7 to 25.9.

“I don’t know what’s causing it. We’re in the cage every day working on it,” Trout said. “It feels good in the cage. And then in the game it kind of comes back. It’s a habit I created over time. I don’t know how. I think once we calm that down and get that back right, you’ll see a big difference.”

Trout added, matter-of-factly rather than defiantly, “When I’m in my zone and I feel like I’m in that good spot hitting, I can hit anybody.” His desire to correct his mechanical flaw certainly is not in question. Ron Washington, the Angels’ new manager and the team’s fifth in seven years, sounds almost alarmed by Trout’s intensity.

“You have to slow him down,” Washington said. “I’m not saying he’s out of control. But he’s out there every day and he’s giving everything he has, to lead as an example. And I just have been trying to tell him, you can still lead. But just slow it down. Don’t burn yourself out.”

Washington said his fear is that the other Angels will try to keep up with Trout’s pace and run “out of gas.” He said he advised Trout of his concern and the 11-time All-Star understood. Still, Trout is hellbent on returning to the player he once was and eliminating at least that aspect of the noise around him.

As for the rest of the noise, well, Trout has seven years and nearly $250 million remaining on his contract. For all the talk of him getting traded, he first needs to restore his value by staying healthy and producing. If that happens and owner Arte Moreno finally decides to retool, Trout then can wield his no-trade clause and effectively choose his next team.
Trout is not there yet. For now, he continues to take this at his pace, remaining loyal to the team that signed him to what is now the second-largest contract in baseball history, surpassed only recently by Shohei Ohtani’s. Growing up in Millville, N.J., Trout’s role model was Derek Jeter, in part because Jeter spent his entire career with the Yankees. That is the career path Trout wanted for himself. Still does.

At the end of last season, I wrote Trout should confront Moreno with hard questions: What is your plan? How are you going to fix this? It is not clear whether he has done that. But Trout appears to be growing more comfortable publicly expressing his impatience.
He at least has admitted to voicing his opinion internally about the need for the Angels to sign free agents, not that Moreno is necessarily listening.

How much will this season affect Trout’s desire to stay? “I wouldn’t say. I’m not trying to predict my future,” Trout said. “I come in with the same mindset every year. I’ve got to stay on the field. I think being on the field, I can make a difference for the club. And the last few years I couldn’t do that.”

What would make him want to move on?
“We got to win. I think that’s a big part. I want to win,” Trout said. “I’ve said it in an interview a few weeks ago at the beginning of spring, when the trade talks come up, I could go that route. That’s obviously a decision I would have to think about. I haven’t thought about any of that yet. I think the desire to win for this team is bigger than any of that.”

Again, scoff if you must. But Trout’s notion of returning the Angels to glory, however far-fetched, drives him still. One player cannot do it alone. The Angels’ only meaningful additions have been in their bullpen. Still, Trout is healthy again after appearing in fewer than 50 percent of his team’s games the past three seasons. That, at least, is a start.
He does not simply dream of returning to MVP form. He is convinced it will happen.
“I’m getting chills thinking about it right now,” Trout said.

Last edited 4 months ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
4 months ago

I thought this after his comments a few weeks ago, but ‘The overall satisfaction, when we do win here, it will be greater than if I did go somewhere else.’ is a backhanded compliment against 17 leaving for the latrine. It is a message I approve of. Not that my approval means anything.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Or, he could just have been talking without projecting some Angel fans current disdain for Ohtani.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago

I think it would be wonderful to see him win another MVP this year and for the young players to arrive regardless of the overall team record. Then, hopefully, we can move forward with a real plan. Probably a little ambitious on my part.

steelgolf
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Plan? Someone has a plan?

max
Trusted Member
max
4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

We don’t need no stinkin’ plan

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 months ago

The way Trout talks as if leaving could make sense at some point makes me think the Angels have basically said we can’t trade you until your trade value is up…and so he understands he needs to perform if he wants out.

Also, maybe he knows other teams need their TV money situations sorted out before he can really be dealt in a way the Angels would want (ie: the receiving team absorbs plenty of the salary)

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Pirates have already told Skenes he will not be on the opening day roster. In other words, we want another year of control as leverage when we ultimately deal you. (This dude is going to be a dominant top of the rotation guy).

Last edited 4 months ago by HalosFanForLife
cookmeister
Trusted Member
4 months ago

or they want to control how many innings he gets in his first full professional season

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago

Cactus League championship flag to be raised at the Big A prior to the 2024 home opener.

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

I’m figuring with both the Giants and Sox losing major starters, that Boras will have no trouble getting his 2 big pitchers signed really soon.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Yep – they both will get better deals than Bellinger and Chapman received

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

BTW there are a shitpile of players that are out of options so a trade or claim could still happen at the end of ST as well.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/out-of-options-2024.html

Isn’t that how we got Brian Goodwin a few years ago?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago

Well, Giolito gets to sit out first new contract year on IR. Something’s gotta happen on these guaranteed contracts. Hopefully MLB can go to something like the NFL. These big contracts are getting more welfare than fare thee well.

We wonder why Arte doesn’t want to spend long-term contracts on pitching?

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Dont hold your breath. It aint going to happen in our lifetime(s)

Mia
Legend
Mia
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

I’m guessing his elbow wasn’t in the best shape when we traded for him. Makes sense

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

no one tells the truth about their health.

#NAPOLISHIP

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

And the Halos unfortunately don’t due their due diligence.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago

I see our Spring Training record is 7-3. Why does that bring me any increase in hope? Don’t get me wrong, strange things happen in baseball. Teams can rise out of nowhere when everything gels. And people win the lottery too.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Speaking of lotteries, on paper we are going to have a good chance at the number 1 spot next year. Who would you pick?

halofansince1978
Super Member
4 months ago

You can’t WIN if you don’t PLAY!!!

halofansince1978
Super Member
4 months ago

Plus I promised my wife a river cruise on the Nile!!

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago

I don’t see a Paul Skenes pitcher on the top, maybe Hartle. But to me Wetherholt and Bazzana are two of the best college hitters I’ve ever seen and would be a hard choice. I think they will both be superstars. I want to watch Nick Kurtz a little more. The game I watched he was pretty pedestrian.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

Tradition dictated our fate. We are picking 8th this year.

Fansince1971
Legend
4 months ago

The reason it might not give you much hope is because the Halos had the best Cactus League record in ‘22 and ‘23. The Angels have one of the great Spring Training teams in baseball!

That said – I do really like what I’m seeing from Neto and O’Hoppe. They will be fun to watch this year!

Last edited 4 months ago by Fansince1971
Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Didnt we win the Cactus League in 2002?

Fansince1971
Legend
Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Ok but we absolutely kicked ass in Cactus League action in 2005 & 2009 so that means we’re going to the ALCS this year baby!

Last edited 4 months ago by Cowboy26
toad2065
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

And it seems to me that our pitchers are working hard to get quicker outs. This would go a long way me hearties!

cookmeister
Trusted Member
4 months ago

you know the lottery selection is already done, right?

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  cookmeister

Whoops. Missed that. Never mind. LOL

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
4 months ago

That’s part of the magic of baseball.
Eternal Hope.
If you build it, he will come.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
4 months ago

we’ve won the cactus league the last two years…

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

Typically spring training is work on stuff time but the won loss records are also influenced by the lineups in the later innings. Our Cactus League success this year to date has been primarily due to effective pitching throughout the lineup underscored by the noticeable ability to throw strikes on a consistent basis. Now maybe balls being thrown to opposing batters will go over the fence in the regular season when they have their timing and our pitchers will start nibbling again. And maybe this recent success is due to the AAAA grizzled players we are trotting out there in the late innings to face the other teams youngsters ( although we’ve been giving alot of kids like Urena, Hurtado and Minacci an opportunity to close) But this revelation which has not been preached since I don’t know like FOREVER is extremely encouraging.

red floyd
Legend
4 months ago

Just remember, baseball is a crazy game. Anything can happen, but it usually doesn’t.

clover_black
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

also..

play good enough, until last out, until also something good happens for you.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

We will win some games.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
4 months ago

Red Sox might be paying Giolito a lot of money this year to rehab a potentially season-ending partial UCL tear.

Lucas Giolito likely to miss start of 2024 season with injury (mlb.com)

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Should we trade for him?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Do you think they’d take Rada for him?

clover_black
Super Member
4 months ago

id throw in dana to sweeten the deal.

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

And Clevinger and Bradish too.

FungoAle
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Poor Boston, think of all those fans not getting as much chances for home run balls

WallyChuckChili
Legend
4 months ago

5pm game today.
Let’s go Silseth!

comment image

FungoAle
Legend
4 months ago

Win or lose…we booze

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago

What’s Ohtani’s OPS this spring – 1.500 or something?

If he sees anything in the strike zone, heads should roll.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
4 months ago

Former California Angel (‘81-‘84) Ed Ott passed away yesterday as well. WS champ w/ 🏴‍☠️
RIP Otter