LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Arb Time

Morning Angels fans. Links, have some.

Angels News

Arbitration hearings are underway. Taylor “Blake” Ward won his. He gets 4.8 Million US dollars for 2024.

Speaking of Ward, he and Rengifo are on MLB.com’s All-Underrated team. Maybe the Angels won’t be as bad as we thought this year?

Around Baseball

Trashos lock up Altuve long term. No one else would be able to handle the fan backlash anyway so whatever.

Dodgers keep Kershaw on a 1 year deal. Odds he retires after this?

Las Vegas mayor says the A’s should stay in Oakland. Too bad her jurisdiction doesn’t cover the area the A’s are moving to since that would be outside city borders.

MLB is slowly releasing their top 100 for 2024. Here is 100-91. And 90-81.

While the new super expensive Apple Vision pro is missing a lot of features, it does have an MLB app. Could be better.

Here are all public ballots for the 2024 MLB HOF. Who organizes a list that way?

MLB The Show Negro League Edition. Pretty neat.

XKCD What If? Is a fun website turned book that explores crazy hypothetical physics stuff. But in case you do not want to read, here is a video about throwing a baseball at near light speed.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
3 months ago

But noooooo, we have to pick up another -.4 WAR reliever instead.

https://x.com/BauerOutage/status/1755373148877566044?s=20

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

So you’d rather have Bauer? But what if Zuniga likes rough sex too?

2GA2Join
Super Member
3 months ago

The Jays lost their Arb vs Vlad Jr. He’s too expensive for them now. Maybe they’ll trade him to us for Baldoquin! Quick, Perry needs to sign Baldoquin.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Serious note, what would you give up for Vlad Jr?

Detmers, Neto & Ward?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Interesting. He’s had 1 MVP year which was really good, 1 30% better than average year, 2 15% better than average, and 1 average, and he has no defensive value. He’s a DH/1B. He is only soon to be 25 but next year he’s a free agent. He may have another MVP year but otherwise, He’s just a better than average player with no defensive value so definitely not. He probably won’t age well and he’ll want more than he’s actually worth in free agency. If was Toronto, depending on what he wanted, I’d probably let him walk.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I probably agree with, but the question remains: What would part with?

In all seriousness, I’d offer Schanuel & Sandoval.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I’m trying to figure why Toronto would do it but the challenge is that he only has this year before he’s FA. Schanuel has 6 and Sandoval has 3 including this year. I would offer Drury and Estevez since they are both FA next year as well. Vlad Jr could be our DH for this year and we could have your favorite player as our 2B. It would also cost the angels about 7M for the salary differential. I would do it but I don’t know that it helps the blue Jays. It would be very close in WAR value assuming Vlad had any of the years other than his MVP year. The problem is that it doesn’t make sense because Torronto is competing to go to the world series this year and we are not.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Dude, if we can make it happen for Drury & Carlos,
you fuggin’ do it. Twice on Sunday. And I love Drury.

Jr., whatever his shortcomings may be, can hit. Moreover, he has
a bit of an “it”
factor to him.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Vladdy Jr isn’t a free agent until ’26. Hes a Super 2 guy so he gets an extra year of Arbitration

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Thanks for the update

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Too much, Vlad Jr has peaked.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
3 months ago

Urshela makes too much sense. In a vacuum I’d rather add Anderson as I think he’ll be healthy and rebound this year.

But we need a good third baseman and Urshela can handle the hot corner.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Why would you put an MLB player in a vacuum Jeff? Usually I follow your logical posts, but I can’t follow this one.

 😀 

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

“In a vacuum”, much like “deep water navy” are additional words that people typically throw in to make their point sound more profound.

I’m not of course accusing JJ of this because he pisses excellence with nary an effort.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Part of the problem is we’re not sure if he means an actual vacuum (which would be fatal) or a vacuum cleaner (which would just be uncomfortable)

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago

This whole dialogue feels like a subplot for Breaking Bad.

red floyd
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Well, if that player was Blanton, there’s always explosive decompression?

2GA2Join
Super Member
3 months ago

Various media guys already have their Angels articles ready to release, but they just need to choose which of the 2 to press “publish” on.

#1 says the Angels have signed Snell, which is a questionable move for a team that is so out of contention and needs a lot more than Snell, especially since Snell is inconsistent and costs us a draft pick, and the team has still had a bad offseason overall and is “irrelevant.”

#2 says the Angels have missed out on Snell, which means they’ve done absolutely nothing to replace Ohtani, and Snell would have been a great replacement for him in the rotation, but now they have had a terrible offseason and are “irrelevant”.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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3 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Both options are true…..

matthiasstephan
Super Member
3 months ago

Schrodinger’s Signing?

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Mr Irrelevant is in the Super Bowl.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

Zu-ni-ga! Zu-ni-ga!

Nah, that probably won’t be a thing….

red floyd
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Daphne?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

I’ll stop saying the same thing over and over if Perry stops doing the same thing over and over

red floyd
Legend
3 months ago

I meant Daphne Zuñiga.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

Another relief pitcher? Perry’s gone mad.

https://twitter.com/LAAngelsPR/status/1755306099325177913

At least he’s got 2 options left.

Last edited 3 months ago by Cowboy26
Twebur
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3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Angels use Spirit Air? I’ll make travel arrangements.
SLC – SNAFind cheap flights from Salt Lake City to John Wayne (Santa Ana) from $42

2GA2Join
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Wow, Perry still going for heat-throwing.

99.4 average fastball.

Last edited 3 months ago by 2GA2Join
steelgolf
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

And misses bats, unfortunately he misses the plate also, so walks are a thing with him.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

This isn’t high school ball where the hardest throwing guy dominates. If the pitcher cannot hit spots with the fastball or any pitch, he will not be successful. The Independent and Mexican Leagues are full of guys who throw heat but can’t pitch.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

Compared to Austin Warren? I’ll take the Zuniga.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I don’t give a crap that Warren is gone. The comparison is to any pitcher.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

But his MLB K/9 is 18.0/9 and his K/BB is infinity so thats pretty good, right?

Charles Sutton
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Only when factoring in his 2023 minor league ERA of 7.63 and WHIP of 1.70

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

It’s like drawing from the pile and discarding. He’s playing gin-rummy

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

And everyone else is playing Go Fish

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 months ago

that is a very “impressive” Memphis line. Still, you never know. That’s possibly Perry’s motto.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
3 months ago

The Cardinals, just like the Rays, are known for giving away players who are really good…….

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

Position players . Not necessarily pitchers

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

A sincere kudos to Perry. Took him forever to correctly build a bullpen full of velocity.

This dude throws 100+ and Warren was barely average (if that).

Good move. No risk, moderate reward.

Last edited 3 months ago by Pineapple12
Jeff Joiner
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Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I like this pickup. Only 25, throws heat, and has options.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

NAHR! SO ANGER! NEEDZ TO SIGH EN STARZ ONLER! LAK ZAC EFFRON! AH WIW AR GEW AN BE MAD/SAD/MAD CUZ TRASH GOES ANF NAH STAR CUMZIN!!! SO STOOPIDZ! TITANIG DECK CHAIRZ!

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
3 months ago

$3500 to look at the usual app that I can see on my ipad? For $3500 I want to feel like I’m sitting in the stands.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

For $3500 I want to be sitting in the dugout.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Good point… I retract my previous post and now wish to be the umpire.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

For $3500 I want a blond and a brunette….

red floyd
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

comment image

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago

As gitch said yesterday, can we just sign Gio back and get it over with? Makes too much sense.

“Heard NYM and NYY have both shown interest, but Angels and Marlins have made better offers at this time.”

https://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/1755288414755188834?t=QqbMRWU9aMD9nxOSzGUYkQ&s=19

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

So three others teams that actually have legitimate playoff chances are also interested in Gio?

Good luck closing that deal Perry.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

Welp. At least they are exploring the same thing I’m exploring.

RexFregosi
Super Member
3 months ago

LV Mayor: A’s should stay in Oakland
me: 🤣

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Being that I’m not sure of anything connected to the A’s, one thing is for sure is that Oakland is a place no one wants to go to just to watch a baseball game. It’s worse than being hauled into Doyer Stadium.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

Yep When your In n Out has to close due to crime you know you got serious problems.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Wasn’t This just a political hit job since the proposed site is outside of her jurisdiction and she was unhappy the A’s didn’t pick her site ?

But either way this sounds soooo Arte ish.

Last edited 3 months ago by Cowboy26
red floyd
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Isn’t the new stadium on the Tropicana site? I thought that was in Vegas proper.

SchofieldsWalkoff
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

They are in the unincorporated area of Paradise which is managed by Clark County/Paradise board.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Clearly the LV Mayor has not spent any time in Oakland……

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago

Rengifo named to the all underrated team. Say it louder for the recalcitrant ones in the back row, haha.

I guess the arbitrators didn’t have the heart to deny Ward’s petition considering how his season ended. Understandable. Ward bouncing back will be one of the more interesting things to watch this Spring.

Tim Anderson makes sense on every level. Sign him already, please.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

You are correct about Anderson. Price is the main question.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

But Is he available?

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Is this a new variable to your “can he pitch” quip?

BTW, can he pitch?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Playing SS or 2b is tough to do but hitting a pitch at a speed of 100+mph is tougher. Assuming that Tim Anderson is available, why have 29 teams not signed him up already?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

Because Anderson has a glass jaw.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

There is that  😩 

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

Just, don’t call Anderson “Jackie.”

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago

Numerous players remain unsigned for various reasons.

It Anderson washed? Maybe.

Does he have a bad attitude? Maybe.

Is he position flexible and inexpensive on a one year deal? Maybe.

Who are you suggesting that we bring on board for the final bench spot?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Anderson could serve in the capacity of a punch taker if someone goes after Trout with a cheap shot (Not recommended).

“Altuve swings an off-handed slap, DOWN GOES ANDERSON!”

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Perry doesn’t listen to us, but I do know it will be someone cheaper than Anderson.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

 🎼  His name is Gio and he dances on the sand 🎼 

(er Potomac Mud)

Last edited 3 months ago by Cowboy26
Twebur
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Hey now, woo, look at that, did he you nearly fall down
At the end of the dive, the trainers arrive
You fell and broke your hip, hip, hip…

His name is Gio, PTP needs to understand
And we might sign him if we’re looking like we can
Oh Gio, Gio, broke your pelvis falling on the land
From oblique strains in the torso sign him for $750 Grand

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Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Masterpiece humor there Twebur

SchofieldsWalkoff
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Is he willing to accept bench job

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

Pretty much thats what he’s being offered by every team however, with our motley crew we probably give him one of the better opportunities for playing time.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago

Exactly. This is apparently our new requirement for marginal players. They must accept bench jobs. How did that sh*t start BTW?

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

What’s the price tag at this point? 1-year @ 7.5 million? Maybe less?

matthiasstephan
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

If we sign Price, can we have Granderson and Wilson thrown in?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I saw that and I knew it would make your day.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

The Rengifo bit?

Indeed. The hate against merely serves to fuel my love for him. Platonic love, of course.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
3 months ago

Negro League video game looks cool.

This looks to be a very different year in a lot of ways. 5 man rotation, youth all around the diamond, no big feee agent signing, really low expectations.

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I think what you are trying to say JJ, is that it’s time to party like it’s 2002 !!

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I think 1995 would be a better comparison at this point.

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I was born in ’95. No comprende amigo

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Before or after the collapse?

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’d take 1995 and its collapse replicated in 2024 any day of the week, sans the coke of course

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yeah. That looks really cool.

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago

Ron Washington?
Soon to be known around these parts as The 15 WAR Man.

Kidding aside, I’m quite excited for this season. The glee that comes from watching young players figure it out over the course of 162 is never not enjoyable.

We still have the 🐐, a REAL manager, and a crop of interesting talent brimming with potential and youthful enthusiasm. Fun will be had in 2024.

This team was all about the Japanese 🦄 for the past 3 years and we were terrible nearly every singly day of it. Maybe we had to lose something great to move onto something better — a team.

Spring Training is almost here, fam! What are you looking forward to the most about Angels’ baseball this year?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Hope Springs eternal……

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

It might be a struggle year, but getting this youth tested will be great. Some will rise, some will get exposed. We’re a team that needs to rebuild and can’t do much until a certain third baseman rides off into the sunset to play golf. Do I expect they make some late signing splash still? Yes. A good season still looks like third place in the division, but stranger things have happened. I will always keep up hope… (such as, Arte may still sell)

Last edited 3 months ago by HalosFanForLife
GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago

What is a good thing is the A’s are in our division.

LanaBanana
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I hadn’t been looking forward to the season much but this post changes my mind, at least a bit.

halofansince1978
Super Member
3 months ago

8 Days!!