LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Waiting Game

News from the baseball world has come at a glacial pace lately but that might be changing a bit soon.

Shota Imanaga’s posting window is up next Thursday so we know he’ll sign before then. He’ll be the latest in a wave of overseas talent to jump to Major League Baseball this off season.

Imanaga is on a deadline but the best remaining free agents are represented by Scott Boras, so we can expect more waiting. However, Imanaga’s signing will help clarify the suitors for Blake Snell and Jordan Montgomery.

The Padres signed Korean reliever Woo Suk Go this week to a 2 year $4.5 million deal that looks like a steal to me. He joins Japanese import Yuki Matsui in a bullpen that looks to have really been bolstered.

Other dominoes are also starting to fall. The Mets handed Harrison Bader $10.5 million for one year. That makes me really appreciate Mickey Moniak’s value.

And the Braves continue extending players after they trade for them, this time a non-sensical extension for the aging and often injured Chris Sale.

The Angels have been silent this week, but that could change soon. Teoscar Hernandez is apparently close to making a decision and the Angels have been linked to him all off season.

Squid has found a new home, going to Detroit on a minors deal. Plenty of minors deals taking place.

Correction: Lefty Andrew Vasquez signed that minors deal.

Sadly the biggest news in the baseball world came off the field. The Wander Franco case keeps looking worse and worse.

In better news, Spring Training is right around the corner. I’m starting a series to help folks plan trips and give tips so we all have a better time in the desert. This week focused on where to stay when you are out there.

Be safe and make sure to link what I miss. Less than 6 weeks until pitchers and catchers report.

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2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago

I’m not really shaken. I didn’t want us to sign Hernandez really.

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Stirred maybe?

WallyChuckChili
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

On the Rocks?

Brent
Super Member
6 months ago

The doyers have shown there is no reason to sign anyone else this off-season. Time to sell, because I feel like the value will just go down from here for the next 5-10 years.

Fansince1971
Legend
6 months ago

Wow. The Dodgers are establishing themselves as the evil empire in Southern California. They are building a team to not only attempt to dominate on the field but also to dominate Southern California and turn the Angels into an irrelevant footnote. This is feeling eerily similar to the 1970s when the Dodgers dominated the Southern California narrative (except when Ryan pitched) and the average attendance at an Angel game was around 12,000. I am sad to say we may be headed back to that.

Brent
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Great ticket prices though!

Fansince1971
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Fo Sho! Probably will be able to buy most weekend day games on the secondary market for 1970s prices!

max
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max
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yeah, you know, fuck it. The Dodhers (spelling error, but sticking with it.) are who they are-kudos to them. Spend the money, win games. How long have we been banging the drum, spend the money wisely?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

The Angels have been irrelevant to the Dodgers for years now. The only Southern California team the Dodgers ever gave thought to was the Padres.

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago

Totally agree. Dodgers could care less. it’s just fodder for the fans to get their undies in a bind. Angels could rip off 3 straight WS championships, still would not turn the tide.

Now…the Clippers, don’t get me started! LOL. Lakers town and will always be. #ScrewBalmerTyLueKawaiGeorgeTheBeardWestbrick

WallyChuckChili
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6 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I will take 3 straight WS Championships to turn the tide for 1,000 Alex.

Especially if it start this year.

dodgers spending like crazy and we Win 3 years in a row.

Yes, please!

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

F the Dodgers and their quest to buy a baseball championship dynasty. I don’t agree they have always made Angels irrelevant. It’s driven mainly the past several years by the Guggenheim ownership, a billionaire boys club. Huge ego’s, their quest is to make MLB all about them (Dodgers). They could care less about ruining competitive competition, its all about stacking rings and high five’n each other. Next few years playoffs are going to have the same narrative ‘who can possibly upset the Dodgers this postseason’. Way to try to ruin the game LA.

Brent
Super Member
6 months ago

5 year 110 million dollar deal for Shota Imanaga for our Los Angeles Angels?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Arte prefers shopping at the Dollar Store. I really don’t think they are stepping up to anything more than one or two years for anyone.

Last edited 6 months ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Twebur
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6 months ago

Next big contract, Arte is going to experiment with the Afterpay payment plan….. but he’s going to go next level, and then use Affirm to break up the payments on the payments.

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

😂

bobblanton
Trusted Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Sheesh 28.5 million. Way too much

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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6 months ago
Reply to  bobblanton

23.5m

$15m now, 8.5m starting in 2030.

Dodgers CBT is now above $310m for 2024

bobblanton
Trusted Member
6 months ago

Still too much for him

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

Only a one year deal? I understood he had 3 year offers on the table. He must really think that batting behind Max Muncy at the Latrine will allow him to cash in next year?

Last edited 6 months ago by Cowboy26
red floyd
Legend
6 months ago

How many Bobby Bonilla contracts is that now?

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

They deferred money on a 28.5 million one year contract? 😂 So if Hernández bust out of baseball he will have to wait 6 years for the rest of his pay. Hopefully he negotiated interest on that money.

FungoAle
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6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Teoscar is betting on himself to have a great year and enter the FA market next year. Well, fauck him. I’m rooting for a .240-17-67 year.

Last edited 6 months ago by FungoAle
WallyChuckChili
Legend
6 months ago

Teoscar to the dodgers…

WallyChuckChili
Legend
6 months ago

I’m starting to think Ohtani might have a chance at making the playoffs this year.

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago

With reports that the Angels are looking at Michael Taylor and were said to have had serious interest with Bader and Kiermaier, that is telling me no interest with pricier Teoscar or Bellinger. I feel at ease.

I also like that Perry is looking to add in this area. Defensive minded CF and a covert plan to move Trout to a corner position.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

According to The Fielding Bible, our best defensive centerfielder by far last season was…Mickey Moniak!. In fact in total Defensive Runs Saved he ranked 10th in all of the major leagues despite playing only 445 innings in CF in 2023 . So it seems we have the answer already on the roster but maybe a concern over pissing off the GOAT with an unheralded youngin’ is compelling Perry to add a more established defensive wiz?

Eric_in_Portland
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6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

thanks. That’s a very interesting site.

h27kim
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6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

This is interesting: Moniak seems to be right there with some of CF’s with good defensive reputation (although I’m not sure how DRS correlates with innings played at the position or, for that matter, how it is actually calculated…)

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

My Lyle’in eyes tell me Moniak is a good center fielder. I would start the season penciling Moniak as the starting center fielder and move Trout to a corner.

Mia
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Mia
6 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

How do you suppose you get Trouty to go along with that?

Fansince1971
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6 months ago
Reply to  Mia

By trading him and allowing him to go to his beloved Philly?

Mia
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Mia
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It’s been the obvious move for a while now.

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Mia

I appeal to his good for the team sensibility and tell him that is the direction that the team is going. If he wants a trade to Philly, I look at their pitching prospects and go from there.

Mia
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Mia
6 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Arte would never allow his superstar to be treated like that.

Fansince1971
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6 months ago
Reply to  Mia

Rewritten:

Arte would never allow his only possible superstar draw to put butts in seats to be treated like that.

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Mia

And that is JH Sr. problem, not mine.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I am slightly the opposite. I don’t like not having a dedicated DH who is a very good hitter. If you need the spot 2 days a week for Trout, you don’t have another quality DH bat the other 5 days. Signing Bellinger like you want would allow you to always have a good hitting DH and if you wanted, you could DH Trout full time. He’s making lot’s of money, if being a full time DH is best for the team then that’s what they should do. So I agree with you on the end state.

FungoAle
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6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

It’s kind of twisted humor, we’re looking to get old man Mike off his feet. Man, if true, we got a long painful road down Pujols lane.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Even with his subpar year last year there were still only about 17 players in all of baseball that had higher OPS+s and only 6 of those were in the American League. If he is able to recover some he will still be a very valuable hitter. After last year, it will be very interesting to see if he reverts back to normal Trout or continues in decline mode. Last year was the first since he was 19 that his OPS+ was below 167 and it was around 130 which is a big drop. As recently as 2022 it was 176 for 119 games and 438 ABs. There is hope if he’s healthy. I’m cautiously optimistic. Like the rest of you though, I saw him swing and miss a lot of strikes last year when he was healthy.

Eric_in_Portland
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6 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I predict he’ll be all the way back. Also that Rendon will manage to play 70-80 games

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago

79 games played by Rendon? A lofty, lofty goal.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

My 2nd guess is 30 games

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

LOL. if only 79, hoping it is because they have found someone better vs a strained testicle.

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago

Rumors are saying that Shota is down to just Giants or Angels….

If you believe or care about such rumors.

clover_black
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I believe …. and I care.

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

If having cleaner streets means anything to him…..we’re in!

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

So all lefty starters and all righty hitters?

Too bad we can’t play ourselves

Last edited 6 months ago by Cowboy26
Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago

If the Halos sense being used as a bid stooge, they should pull-out from the Teoscar “Link.”

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 months ago

I wish they would just say they were going to take the year to evaluate what they have and then fill the holes they identify next year. Otherwise, they’re not going to get a good look at some of their players and they may be going into next year again with unknowns.

Mia
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Mia
6 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

The Angels will never admit they don’t expect to win.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Mia

TrAdition!

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

But he’s not Japanese. How can this be?

https://twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1743800631414944216

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Thought they might try and trade for Yoshida.

Cowboy26
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6 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle
Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Matsui is playing again?

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Hideki was awesome. Big fan. Yes, we could use a bat like this.

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

$195,000,000 deferred money.

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
6 months ago

Perry said that Plesac might be in relief. I think he and Anderson fit into that “long reliever” role with lefty/righty spot starts in the 6th starter role as I thought. They still need another hard thrower at the end. Someone on between Soriano and Estevez. Imanaga would be an overpay but it would show life. There has to a trade incoming for another starter role. Come on Perry.,,

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

We’ve got to start developing aces. Continually hoping to sign them in free agency costs too much and leads to Tyler Anderson types. Relying on that lets us (that is, Arte) to ignore player development. “We can fix it with free agents “ is the lazy and unsuccessful way to go

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
6 months ago

Hopefully they draft Brody Brecht in June.

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

And hopefully if they are able to, he doesn’t choose football.

clover_black
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

feel like we are getting Shota Imanaga and I wouldn’t hate it

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

Dudes a winner . Id be shocked he’d want to come here but we definitely could use the attitude

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

We’ll crush that attitude and his spirit

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

I don’t see a Japanese FA signing here, purely for the overhang of a fellow countryman superstar, might be wrong. At 5’10”, 170 lbs, topping out at 94 mph, I would not be bothered he chooses to go elsewhere.

clover_black
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

190 and he tops out at 96.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 months ago

Plesac salary details: 1 yr $1mil. Ok, That’s fine, not a big bite out of the budget

Fansince1971
Legend
6 months ago

Yep. That’s basically a minimum salary deal.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yep, just guaranteed.

MarineLayer
Super Member
6 months ago

I’ve got no problem with deal but I wish Minasian would focus on something that could help the team more.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Who’s to say he isn’t?

Source?

MarineLayer
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Past history.

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I agree. It doesn’t make sense to me for people to be declaring things like “Perry is totally blowing it this off-season and is failing at his job” when hardly anything significant has happened for any teams besides the Dodgers.
There are still a ton of things that could happen before Spring Training.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I am Pretty sure he is focused on something more!

Weather it is Fat burger, In-N-Out or Five Guys, beats the shit out of me!

MarineLayer
Super Member
6 months ago

That is true without a doubt!

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

Well Well. Well. Whoever had Adam Kolarek in the “What stiff will we DFA to make room for Zach Plesac” Contest wins the free steak knives.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/angels-outright-adam-kolarek.html

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Wasn’t Kolarek a “splash” of Perry’s a few weeks back?

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

Yep . They explain that in the article. But I guess Perry figured he could DFA him off of the 40 man if needed without losing him since Kolarek would have to forfeit the 900K if he rejected the assignment. and no team would claim him unless they want to pay the dough. This is very similar to what The Angels did with Fletch last year but for a lot less money.
Maybe this means the Halos have bigger designs for Ingram’s Hergets & Cabbage’s 40 man roster spot. The Angels are now carrying 23 pitchers and 17 position players on their 40 man . Thats a little high considering each team must carry at least 13 position players on their 26 man so they only have 4 position players right now ( Cabbage, Soto, Paris & Adams ) that aren’t projected to make the opening day roster.

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I sure hope Ingram will be gone before camp opens. It seemed like every time he came in a game runners were getting on base. Not feeling the love for Cabbage but thinking he is still here until a future signing comes along and jettisons him.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That’s exactly what I was saying before. They only have about 2 non starting position players on their current major-league roster not including the 4 guys you just mentioned.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I show 4 under my scenario above. They would be Stefanic (Rengifo would rotate through 2B 3B & DH with Rendon and Drury) Adell ( Moniak would get most of the RF starts) Thaiss and Rivas.

The problem with this current lineup is Rengifo would be our backup shortstop and Adell would be our primary backup outfielder ( Although, like Cabbage, Rivas can play the outfield as well)

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You’re right, I forgot about Stefanic and Rivas.

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
6 months ago

Giants got Ray and his fat contract which means Snell is ours since they were are biggest competitor for him. Yeah, I wish, what seems logical will most likely be he signs elsewhere for less money while we waste all our effort and energy to recruit him.

MarineLayer
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

MLB Trade Rumors projected Snell, their No. 4 ranked free agent this offseason, as getting a seven-year, $200 million deal, an AAV of about $28.5 million.

i sure hope we don’t get him for anything approaching that.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Snell makes more sense for the Yankees

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Hicks has multiple suitors for his services to round out a contenders roster. He’s not coming here. Hicks is ok with not being a closer. I think he signs with championship aspirations, just the way I see it unfolding.

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Ray has risk but if he Opts in to his remaining 2-years for $50M, that won’t kill them. Giants still have room for a Tier 1 signing. Snell can still be acquired but I believe the Giants want no part of a 7-year (or even 5 years) deal contract that his camp has been demanding so they dialed up JeDi AND got rid of 2 horrible contacts.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago

One question: Are the Halos still linked to anyone?

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

And..WOO HOOO…the possible return of Ryan Brasier https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1743390813646647540

WallyChuckChili
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Rendon for 3 more years!

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago

A 3 year eternity.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago

..until we extend him  😎 

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago

I’m too GA to research it all myself, but why does it seem like the Mariners got a good player from the Rays in exchange for a guy that may only be AAAA?
I thought no one fleeces the Rays.

Last edited 6 months ago by 2GA2Join
Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Exactly, Which is why the player the Rays got from the M’s will be an All Star, while the player the Jedi got form Rays will turn into Brandon Wood next year.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Cowboy has it absolutely correct. It’s not what the player did last season on the M’s, it’s what he’s going to do as a Ray.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

This move was made by the Rays because of the Wandering Franco. They desperately needed a shortstop and I’m sure they’ll be able to ride Caballero back to the playoffs again this year.

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Too bad we had already traded Fletch… we could have gotten a good player from the Rays.

Then again, we would have gotten fleeced, so…

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Don’t they have caminero ready to go?

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

I think this puts Caminero Third on the depth chart now behind Caballero (who can also play a GG caliber second base and Walls. But considering Caminero is just 20 he’ll be fine if his ML breakout gets delayed a season or so.

Interesting that the Rays already had a deal in place with the Cards to bring in Palacios to replace Raley. I’m surprised that Cards would ever trade another outfielder.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

Could Trader Jerry’s trades finally be it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwiTs60VoTM

Omahalo22
Member
6 months ago

Never been so despondent about a upcoming halos season yet everyone will still give Arte their hard earned money. There has to be a better way to spend your money. It’s frustration spending. LOL.

Last edited 6 months ago by Omahalo22
Pineapple12
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Omahalo22

I was going to games last season for $10 or less (with Ohtani playing).

I honestly cannot think of many better ways to spend $5 and enjoy my time.

Omahalo22
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Still frustration spending. Lol.

clover_black
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Omahalo22

im canceling my spring training trip to teach arte a lesson

Jim Atkins
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Didn’t go to a single Halo game all last year. I did hit Phoenix for the D-backs 25th anniversary game and the only home playoff game they lost against the Phillies. I start thinking about Haloball and I get a sense of total boredom any more.

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago

Wow, Trader Jerry finally couldn’t hold back anymore…

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Didn’t the Giants just sign Hanniger? I forgot

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

They must feel good about Bellinger taking that OF spot

clover_black
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

i thought he was still a mariner.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Yes. apparently they did too.

He’s owed $20 million this year with a $15.5 Million player option for 2026. I’m curious how much cash is going back with the Mariners

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Mitch was signed for the 2023 season on a 3-year deal. There is not much left in the tank, flashed some substance but failed. Surprising JeDi would take this piece back. Good time to move off of DeSclafani too.

Perhaps the contract year demands on Snell push the Giants to call JeDi. Ray has risk and an opt out he might elect not to exercise.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Maybe this means the Giants are out on Imanaga?

I’m not sure about Granderson or Wilson though.

Last edited 6 months ago by Cowboy26
matthiasstephan
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Is Granderson available?

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

The Mariners are also reportedly working on a second trade with the Tampa Bay Rays that will involve an exchange of major-league position players and cash, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic.

Last edited 6 months ago by Twebur
Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Haniger is hit and miss but Raley may finally give them a legit bat. Then again. It’s the Rays. Raley may turn into another Joe Charboneau the minute he leaves Florida Air space