LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Mascots

Here is a rundown of weird minor league mascots. Check out “The Aviator.”

Wander Franco is officially summoned by Dominican authorities to appear and be questioned today at 11:00 A.M. I read they are still kind of looking for him, but they apparently know who his attorney is. I wonder if he is going to sneak over into Haiti or something.

As of yesterday, the Angels are still reportedly in on Blake Snell. So are the Giants.

Isiah Kiner-Falefa appears to be headed to the Blue Jays for two years at $15 Million. Right-hander Josh Staumont just got a one year deal with the Minnesota Twins.

The Yankees traded Estevan Florial to the Guardians for right-hander Cody Morris. The Dodgers DFAd left-hander Bryan Hudson to make room for Yoshinobu Yamamoto. The Rangers just signed a whole slew of guys to minor league contracts.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago

Angels name-dropped by Heyman in regards to interest in J.D. Martinez, Blake Snell and Jordan Montgomery.

Are we being used as leverage like usual? Probably 😂.

In the event we aren’t and somehow sign Snell and Martinez…

SP: Snell, Detmers, Sandoval, Canning, Anderson, Silseth

O’Hoppe C
Schanuel 1B
Drury 2B
Neto SS
Rendone 3B
Ward LF
Trout CF
Moniak RF
Martinez DH

Bench: Rengifo, Thaiss, Adell

I’m staying consistent that I’d prefer to not add any longterm mega deals.

Also, adding them would be good moves for us. Both are impact players who address direct needs on the MLB roster and won’t block any high level prospect(s) anytime soon (Trouty and Rendone will need to play the field, sorry).

I highly highly doubt we sign both guys, let alone one. But if we do, man. I like the squad.

Last edited 3 months ago by Pineapple12
CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

We should sign both. Losing Ohtani to hated Dodgers has got to rate as one of the most tragic events in Angels history and made us the laughing stock with the MLB community. We don’t have to be defeated and quit this year. Need to show some pride and keep trying to roll with improving the roster, at least for this offseason.

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Let the league and Dodger fans have their jolly. I know I will be enjoying watching Ohtani and crew get beat in the postseason. Must see TV watching Roberts outside the Dodger club house answering questions why he took his starter out of the game so early. Just like old times.

clover_black
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Is there a contingency coping plan if the dodgers win the WS?

max
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max
3 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

ya we’re laying down so much karma, I think we’ll need one

Twebur
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

And we can watch Kershaw…….KERSHAW!

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

KERSHAW-SHANKed

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

With no redemption. He’ll probably have to go to the Rangers to win a ring

2GA2Join
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

I actually don’t at all think of it as losing him to the Dodgers, so maybe that’s why it really doesn’t bother me that much compared to others. You can’t lose something that isn’t yours.

Ohtani’s contract with us ended. He was back to being a free agent. The Dodgers massively overpaid to hire the guy, while we decided not to tie up our funds like that. No problem.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Agreed.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

We should sign an ace (or top starting pitcher – Snell, Montgomery, even Stroman), someone to serve as DH with versatility, and some relief pitchers (bring back Moore?, another lefty?).

I don’t really see a place for Martinez (not versatile enough) or Bellinger (wrong position, potentially too much money), but I certainly see the value in going after who we are rumored to go after.

IMHO, we are not that far away.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

Good news-Several newer web articles have the Halos so d@mn “linked” to a few players.

Last edited 3 months ago by Angelz4ever
Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

At least we’re “checking in”

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

…or “looking at”

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

The phrase I recall the most in recent years was the “Angels were in on______”

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

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Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

Does everyone else here think that if evil Arte had agreed to a trade of the player formerly known as the Unicorn we probably would have sent him to Tampa Bay for a package including Wander Franco right before everybody found out he was a massive Pedo?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

LOL, Franco now starring on DR’s most wanted?

steelgolf
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Yep, he no-showed and fired his legal team. He is on the run, probably looking for a country without an extradition agreement with the DR.

clover_black
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

i wander if they’ll find him.

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

No white Bronco’s in DR or is there?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

There’s always France, that’s where the douches all go to run from justice.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Wow you seem to know a lot about Caribbean extradition Charles .

Just Sayin’

Last edited 3 months ago by Cowboy26
Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

The Dodgers designated left-hander Bryan Hudson for assignment, so IF the Halos can claim him, that could be a nice addition. Problem is, I am sure other teams are ahead of the Halos.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

His limited MLB debut was pretty unspectacular . He needs to cut down on his walks . Not sure we can fix him but seems like a better upgrade than Marte . Who would you jettison off of the 40 man? Marte has already been removed .

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yeah, just like the Dodgers, albeit for Yamamoto, we also would have to bump someone of the 40. I was still thinking we had room. Good point CB26.

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  max

I believe the Angels need to strongly consider moving off of ALL those players named in this article. If these guys are considered assets by other organizations, strike while the iron is hot. Red Sox are an organization with a new GM and under a little pressure to make some moves. A few other organizations are in a similar boat.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I could give 2 shits ( and 2 shots) to jettison somebody if we aren’t going to get back value in return . Do the Red Sox even have any prospects or is this another chapter of “screw the halos out of their only real assets for our junk. “

This mindset of “we need to trade somebody just because the other teams want them” is asinine if we don’t ultimately improve the overall talent we get in return

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Gnashing of teeth? Arghhhh!

2GA2Join
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I keep seeing reasoning like this on this site and it seems like people jump to some illogical assumptions.

Saying that you really think it is a good time to trade away valuable assets (because we need to rebuild and aren’t going to win) does NOT imply that we should mindlessly just make any trade and get a poor return.

Nor does it make sense to argue that the Angels (or other teams) have failed at many previous trades, so therefore trades always suck, so therefore it is stupid for the Angels to make any trades.

Sorry, but I’ve noticed this avenue of rebuttal happen many times and it doesn’t make sense to me.

Fansince1971
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I agree. Why would the Angels trade relatively inexpensive assets that are under team control. And for what? Just to make a trade? It makes no sense.

If it’s a rebuild, the only player that should be traded is Trout. The Angels would have to eat a fair amount of salary but that would at least be consistent with a rebuild.

I would obviously like to trade Rendone as well but he has no value to anyone and is untradeable.

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago

With our off-season stuck in the mud, let’s take a look at Mike Trout!

Trout is currently 52nd in MLB history with 85.2 WAR (according to BBRef).

Looking up the leaderboard, there are 8 players from the 2000s era ahead of him — Chipper Jones (85.3), Adrian Beltre (93.5), Randy Johnson (101.1), Albert Pujols (101.5), Greg Maddux (106.6), Alex Rodriguez (117.5), Roger Clemens (139.2), Barry Bonds (162.8).

Trouty has 7 years left on his contract that will capture years 32-39.

He would need to average 4.7 WAR over the next 7 seasons to reach 118 WAR for his career and overtake A-Rod for 16th all time.

Trout is far and away the greatest player to make his MLB debut after 2000, with the closest names being Verlander (80.9), Kershaw (79.9), Grienke (77.5), and Scherzer (75). There’s no competition for Trout when compared with his contemporaries who debuted in 2010 or later.

Trout’s 2020, 2021, and 2023 shortened seasons have temporarily and unceremoniously halted his meteoric rise up the WAR leaderboard. Hopefully, Trout can take a dip into the fountain of youth and recapture good health, which will be imperative for him to keep working his way up.

As mentioned above, averaging 4.7 WAR for the remainder of his contract would place him 16th in baseball history and only behind Bonds and Clemens for modern day players. Averaging a more realistic 3.2 WAR over the next 7 seasons would put Trout 23rd all time behind Bonds, Clemens and A-Rod.

Trout is unquestionably a GOAT of this sport and when considering the steroid-era, Mike will go down as the greatest non-juiced player of the 2000s. Pretty awesome.

Trout is currently at 368 HRs. Let’s say he averages 35 HRs over the next 7 seasons — that’d be good for 613 HRs and 8th in MLB history.

Last edited 3 months ago by Pineapple12
FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Trout’s performance can be split into two categories. Pre-dad and post-dad. Adding in his weight gain, quiet demeanor and nagging injuries, I’m no longer bullish on Trout as a cornerstone.

MH252525
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Yea Trout’s performance on the field when healthy can’t be questioned. But just about everything else can be. How much did he lead when he had to know a ton of his teammates were addicted to drugs? How much did he just keep his mouth shut and not rock the boat when Eppler went at it vs Pujols/Scioscia and Arte chose the path that kept us away from actually using technology to help the team. How do so many Angels treat their time with the Angels as if it’s the f’ing side job. Let’s open businesses and make our own wine, let’s buy car dealerships and start a racing team, let’s collab with Tiger Woods and design a golf course. Like can’t all of those things wait until you’re no longer being paid millions of dollars to be a FULL TIME baseball player?

How many young players on the Angels have the mindset about it’s being about their own personal stats and highlights? Like do other teams really have young players posting to their IG a homerun they hit in a brutal loss where their MVP Candidate was injured?

How many teams have their star players see another “star” player have their hands on a fan in the crowd and just walk on past like it’s f’ing normal.

How many teams have their stars let that same “star” player shit on their fans with their bs about being on the dead list and not speaking English. A real leader would have gone right up to Rendon privately and said go apologize for that shit or else when the media asks me about it, I’ll tell them how I really feel. Unless of course Trout doesn’t give a shit himself about Rendon treating his fanbase like crap.

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  MH252525

I have no idea how to respond this haha.

It feels like a lot of conjecture and projection on your part.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  MH252525

seriously, if you knew the players personally you wouldn’t root for any of them.

MH252525
Trusted Member
3 months ago

I’m sure this is true.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  MH252525

I don’t think any of us working folk go about pointing out the alcoholics and probable drug addicts in the workplace. I worked in an office with several functioning hypes that wore sweaters in 106 degree weather. Their habits, or alleged habits, didn’t affect my safety, so I didn’t “rock the boat.”

I told you guys before that one of my roomies in the minors used steroids, I didn’t see the need to “Narc”. Additionally, several underage teammates would get drinks in favorable bars/restaurants.

#NOTAKEVIN

#MINDMYBUSINESS

Last edited 3 months ago by Angelz4ever
MH252525
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Fine give him a pass on the drug use…. I don’t think it’s a hot take that Trout is a piss poor leader and has entirely failed to help establish a healthy baseball culture here. He can’t even lead a fantasy baseball team.

MH252525
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Also I think I draw the line at, a member of your own organization is the one getting drugs for the people. He owed nothing to Kay. Now if he didn’t know that’s one thing, but I bet he probably did.

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I mean, Trout was arguably the 3rd best player in 2022 after Ohtani and Judge lol.

Writing his obituary as a cornerstone feels premature.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Behind steroid users and cheats-Bonds, ARod and Clemens, how dare Trout allow that to happen.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

“Market for Cubs’ Free Agent Bellinger Is Drying Up” tagline from Inside the Cubs

I gotta a funny feeling Bellinger is going to land on his feet somewhere, not for 10 years, but somewhere….

steelgolf
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Bellinger may not sign until February or even March. Boras will wait for some team to panic or have an injury.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

’tis true….

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Smart GMs are wary of Bellinger and that’s what has me worried that Angels will be the one who pulls the trigger

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago

Looks as if we a going to get drenched this weekend and some will be seeing the arrive of the snow finally. We get a deal at the Big A for parking at 20 bucks, skier’s have to pay that weekdays and $40 bucks on weekends! Who said that Golf was an expensive sure-bet they didn’t own a board or snow skies or a mountain cabin. 🏂  😃 

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

Keep that one in your hat GPa . We don’t want evil Arte to go all Frank McCourt on us and realize he can charge more for his parking lot.

steelgolf
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That is why he is still trying to get a deal done to buy the stadium property. If he gets a deal done, he will develop it, own all the land including the stadium, then sell the team but keep the land.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Mini-McCourt?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago

Good morning, Halo faithful, well I was fortune it enough to be taken in to start the day-“Angels 3b drawing lots of interest”. Are we going to get lucky, and some other team wants Rendone and 39 million a year just maybe!

The Angels suck-you already know that and so do I, but a big named Baseball Writer doesn’t know that our LF’er does not play 3b. If you are going to post a story about any team at least learn that a player such as Ward is a LF’er.

Tired of College Football yet? So am I, but the good news is the games get better from here on out, at least I hope so anyway. I can’t watch a game from Idaho on a blue field though.

With some luck and good playing the Rams have heated up at the right time, just might make it in the Playoffs as a Wild Card choice-who knew a month ago that they would turn it on and turn it up 2 notches? Kool.

The Angels sure have picked through the bone pile this off season, but can Arte resist signing some 30 year old + player to a horrible contract? We just have to wait and see.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 months ago

Tongue in cheek-Richardo Sandoval authored said piece, at least his mother knows who he is. 😁 

Angelstan
Trusted Member
3 months ago

It will be interesting to see who the Angels acquire. They are positioned to finish second for Snell — with Boras getting the Giants to overpay. The same may be true for Teoscar absent Boras but with the Red Sox involved. I would guess the Angels are more likely to get Teoscar than Snell. Neither is an option.
Plenty of depth exists with one year guys or slightly below the radar signings. They need bodies. Wishing everyone a great new year.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

I’d prefer decent players on two year deals (e.g., Brandon Drury) that give us solid continuity if the team is better than expected OR can be flipped for a decent asset return at the deadline if we’re not.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I agree. I would give him a 2 year extension and I think he will be worth it especially since they currently have no in-house solution for 2B. As you said, it also makes him more valuable in a trade.

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I’m all for extending Drury! He had such an underrated 2023.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

My point is that our FA dollars should be allocated to solid, if not spectacular, vets on two year deals and cited Drury as a prime example.

Last edited 3 months ago by BannedInLA
FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Good example and when these acquisitions actually prove out to be a bargain buy, time to flip. Like the housing market.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Depends on the player I don’t mind JD Martinez but I don’t want to give him two years. I’d never give Turner 2 years. Merrifeld? Sure. It all depends

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Yes, you were picking up what I was putting down.

Merrifield is a perfect candidate.

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

I’m all for plugging in a couple of these key FAs on short term to surround the kids. Turner, JD, Whit, Bader, … don’t really care who just avoid 5-years and above. Team needs speed so there is that.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

He’s a low average no power infielder. He’s the proverbial AAAA “depth piece” that is the hallmark of Perry’s tenure as GM. Rivas will have his opportunity to traverse the waiver wire again in the not too distant future.

If Schanuel is in fact trade bait, it will only create another hole on the major league roster. But then again, what else is Perry to do with the mess he is leading?

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

It’s simply a depth piece. We aren’t moving off of Schanuel for this rando haha

Angelstan
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Injury replacement and just general depth

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

It was and this is good move. Rivas is a left handed version of Evan White who can actually hit league average. his defense is off the charts . He can even play legitimate outfield . If Schanuel shits the bed and they can get these guys to hit alittle ( I’m sure their numbers will look good at the great Salt Lake) thenwe got ourselves a pretty good back up platoon waiting in the wings at AAA.

Last edited 3 months ago by Cowboy26