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LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Ex-Angels

October 26, 2023

The Orioles just claimed Tucker Davidson from the Royals, who apparently tried to sneak him through waivers. Meanwhile, the Astros claimed Oliver Ortega from the Twins.

The 2024 Draft Lottery odds are set. The Angels have a 6.1% shot at a top pick.

What do you think about trading Mike Trout and $95 Million to the Giants for Mitch Haniger, Kyle Harrison, and Carson Seymour? Do you agree that right field is the Angels biggest weakness? Do you think Jo Adell gets another shot? A break from baseball games means abundant speculation in the “news” cycle.

Dusty Baker will announce his retirement today.

The Red Sox will hire Craig Breslow and call him Chief Baseball Officer. The Mets just canned Steve Martone, who had been Special Assistant to Billy Eppler.

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Cowboy26

1 month ago

At least Billy wont be missing a pay check.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/sports/mets-would-have-fired-billy-eppler-if-he-didnt-resign/

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Twebur

1 month ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Eppler’s trade for Simba was his greatest accomplishment……long, long ago.

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Cowboy26

1 month ago

Reply to Twebur

Don’t you mean second greatest accomplishment?

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/angels-to-sign-shohei-ohtani.html

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Twebur

1 month ago

Reply to Cowboy26

He lied to him….he tricked him.

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FungoAle

1 month ago

Trading Trout is the correct move to make IMO. To get him to waive his no-trade clause, he will want to name the team. Philly, NY(s) and Dodgers would motivate him to accept and these teams exhibit deeper pockets. I’m sure a team like the Orioles might entice him but the Angelos’s are cheap while the Giants have deep pockets but not ready to compete.

Get it done.

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Mikeal1st

1 month ago

Reply to FungoAle

I’m not sure his future production would be enough to warrant taking him on, especially for teams wanting to make the playoffs.

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Eric_in_Portland

1 month ago

Reply to Mikeal1st

I’m not sure about his future injuries. On another club he might ….

Then again, that hamate thing came out of nowhere. But I’m more optimistic about Trout being healthy than, to pick a name at random, Rendon

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

On a Trout trade, a good comp is Goldschmidt going to the Cards in Dec 2018.

Goldy was 31, an All-Star each of the past six seasons, face of the franchise and a complete stud.

They got Luke Weaver (P), Carson Kelly (C) and Andy Young (INF) to rebuild with but since they lost 110 games 2 years ago in 2021 and they’re all gone, the Cards basically ripped them off. Goldy was NL MVP in 2022. They also got a 2019 Competitive Balance Round B draft pick from the Cardinals (I didn’t think you could trade draft picks??? – any idea on how that happened?) and that maybe would be little Fletcher)

Weaver got them Emmanuel Rivera in a trade, so that helped the 2023 NL Pennant winners. Kelly was released in August this year.

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ihearhowie3.0

1 month ago

Reply to RexFregosi

Yeah the Goldy and Miguel Cabrera trades are pretty stark examples of how this isn’t as simple as “send out generational talent, get amazing superstar prospects in return”

What you can probably say is that AZ was able to shed salary and made a clear commitment to rebuilding. Pretty impressive they’ve made the World Series in spite of botching that trade.

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Jeff Joiner

1 month ago

Reply to RexFregosi

Goldy had $118 million remaining on his deal and had averaged 157 games played over the previous three years. As a first baseman his decline in his 30s can be expected to be pretty gradual.

Trout has $260 million remaining on his deal and has averaged 79 games played over the last three years. He’s a center fielder and his defensive value will decline sharply as he gets further from 30.

Goldy was a lot better chip than Trout. At this point I think we’d have to eat $100 million to get a few warm bodies.

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John Henry Weitzel

1 month ago

https://x.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1717603548781801571?s=46

Matt Wise, the Angels’ pitching coach since 2021 and a member of the team’s staff since 2020, will be the new White Sox bullpen coach, sources tell me and @SamBlum3

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MarineLayer

1 month ago

Reply to John Henry Weitzel

Good luck, White Sox.

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

Reply to MarineLayer

bring sunflower seeds, tell stories and answer the phone

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Twebur

1 month ago

Reply to RexFregosi

And no more dreadful, embarrassing trips to the mound in front of everyone……. usually resulting in bad advice and traffic on the bases. 😀😀

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Cowboy26

1 month ago

Reply to Twebur

Ding dong the witch is dead.

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Twebur

1 month ago

Reply to John Henry Weitzel

Didn’t know we announced he wasn’t coming back, I must have missed that?

Hired as our bullpen coach, thrown into the fire after Calloway got canned…..and he’s where he should be, a Bull Pen coach……on another team.

Next………

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angelslogic

1 month ago

Reply to John Henry Weitzel

Better them than us!

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Twebur

1 month ago

2023 MiLB TITLE WINNERS RANKED! (BY HOW LONG IT HAD BEEN SINCE THEY LAST WON)
https://view.mail.milblists.com/messages/16983407918269e3bfb00f0a8/raw

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tanana40

1 month ago

Reply to Twebur

When we had a rookie league team, the Orem Owlz won a Pioneer League title in 2017 with Adell, Marsh, C-Rod and company.

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

at this point in the day, i guess we don’t find out a manager till after the World Series

maybe Perry would like to talk to Jeff Bannister (D-backs bench coach)?
i could live with that but then again he would seem like a new and improved Phillip, v2

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Twebur

1 month ago

Reply to RexFregosi

Bob sounds very certain about these 2 guys

https://x.com/BNightengale/status/1716878684064526476?s=20

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Twebur

1 month ago

Bruce
https://x.com/Super70sSports/status/1717265099964989908?s=20

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DowningDude

1 month ago

21 years ago today, I know where I was … where were you?

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Twebur

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

Watched the game In the Anaheim Hilton Bar…….Spent the night waiting for game seven (tickets in the leftfield bleachers above the BPs). Had no idea when I booked the room that the Giants were staying there. Saw most of the Giants and Barry’s Giant head, his Godfather Willie Mays, and many, many SF fans.

Eat it Giants!

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MarineLayer

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

I was there, too. Also, there for Game 7.

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

on my couch in Phoenix

as soon as the game ended, i headed west into the night on I-10.

destination: Anaheim

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red floyd

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

And nowadays, you’ll never be able to do that again. No more paper tickets 🙁

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Twebur

1 month ago

Reply to red floyd

I guess you borrow an iPhone, take a picture of “your” iPhone screen with the bar code……Send the picture to one of those digital photo picture printing companies, and they send it to your house, with one of the nice frames of course….the new circle of life, for photos.

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

Reply to red floyd

my BOB Opening Day ticket from 3/31/98 is a piece of art –

about 3″ x 7″ and in 3D (like the Kellog’s 3D baseball cards from back in the day)

This is the 25th Silver Anniversary of the Snek franchise – i had season tickets that first year. i bought them in RF by the pool anticipating i’d see 20-something bathing beauties each night. Instead, it was most 40-50 yr old males with polo shirts, bermuda shorts and beer guts.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

Won’t see that price for WS tickets again….

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ScoopleDoople

1 month ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Just what I was thinking! More like $600 or $6000 a seat…

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

Reply to ScoopleDoople

planning to go to Game 3 Monday night and tracking prices – as of now, cheapest is $549 and believe they’ll be falling more so i’m holding out for now.

Took my daughter to Game 1 and Game 7 in 2001 when she was just two months old. (Kari Lake interviewed us on Fox News as “the youngest fan there” _ i still have the VCR tape somewhere)

She’s 22 now and we return

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HaloLew

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

I had tickets to game 6 and my buddy who is a Giants fan had tickets to game 7. We switched because he wanted the chance to see the Giants clinch. Best decision I ever made! RF pavilion on the aisle next to the tunnel.

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Jeff Joiner

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

I was the drum line instructor at my old high school and I was at a competition with them. I heard the Angels were down when we boarded the school bus home. One of my students was a big Angels fan and her mom called her to tell her we’d come back and won.

Until the DVD came out I’d never seen the full game; just highlights.

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h27kim

1 month ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I was at a SD sports bar with a friend (incidentally, long time Ranger fan) watching Game 6. I got despondent and wanted to leave early, but my buddy convinced me to stay until the last out. I’ve been utterly grateful to him for that.

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red floyd

1 month ago

Reply to h27kim

That’s right, remember…

Play good enough until last out until also something good happens for you

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Fansince1971

1 month ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

When I am feeling particularly blue, I put the Game 6 dvd on and move it to the moment when Dusty hands the game ball to Russ Ortiz. I then watch it all the way to the end from that moment. By the end the blue is gone and I’ve got a spring to my step again.

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

did Dusty have a press conference today? it’d be a great question for him, DD.

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Charles Sutton

1 month ago

Reply to RexFregosi

One of the tweets I saw yesterday said it would be an Astros Press Conference. I think it was 10 AM their time. I figured Dusty would be there to make a speech etc.

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Fansince1971

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

Took my dad – he was 74. He is still alive 😃

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2GA2Join

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

I know exactly where I was…. here is the story…

My girlfriend had bought tickets (in advance) to go to an opera in the early afternoon. Even more, it was with her mom, and it was special to her, so I wasn’t going to bail on that, although I couldn’t believe that I was going to miss some of the Angels WS game 7 to attend an opera.
So after it ended we headed over to my girlfriend’s place to watch the remainder of the game. I think all the scoring had already happened, and she and her roommates were all Giants fans. But I enjoyed watching the ending and was really happy with the outcome.

Oh, and she broke up with me about a week later.

All good though, we ended up being good friends. I think I told that story in her presence a couple of times to razz her though.

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Cowboy26

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

I was right there too. I’m the one with the red Angel cap .

https://imgur.com/a/pFyCN2e

Last edited 1 month ago by Cowboy26

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Designerguy

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

Was living in Sydney at the time. Watched the game with my son. Fortunately bowed out of a lunch with my then in-laws so I could witness history.

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max

1 month ago

Reply to DowningDude

“I was participating in some anarchy”

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Mikeal1st

1 month ago

Let Trout go, but only if he wants. He’s earned it. Start rebuilding (spending money on) farm and hope for a youth movement that brings contention in 3-5 years.

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Fleckstein

1 month ago

Do you mean 6.1% for THE top pick? “A” confuses me?

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Charles Sutton

1 month ago

Reply to Fleckstein

The article was unclear to me. Honestly, I am not sure what the 6.1% is supposed to mean.

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HalosFanForLife

1 month ago

Reply to Charles Sutton

When the lottery happens, we have a 6.1% chance of drawing the top pick.

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Eric_in_Portland

1 month ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

that’s different from what Tankathon shows. Not 6.1% but 7.5% and the top (that is, bottom) clubs at 16.5%, not 18.3%

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Twebur

1 month ago

Red Sox Officially Hire Craig Breslow As Chief Baseball Officer

I thought we weren’t allowed to call people in charge “Chief”” or “Owner”…..weren’t we told we needed to call them governor or general?

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Charles Sutton

1 month ago

Reply to Twebur

I think it would be extremely cringe worthy if it was the Braves.

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

Reply to Charles Sutton

President is also called Commander in Chief. Article II Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, the Commander in Chief clause, states that “[t]he President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.”

(And the chief reason we lost last year is because of injuries.)

Yeah, it’d get people riled up if Atlanta Braves used it, but slow down before the word is stricken from the English language.

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Twebur

1 month ago

How old is Buck?
https://x.com/Super70sSports/status/1715374002129010831?s=20

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

1 month ago

Reply to Twebur

He’s 469 in dog years.

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RexFregosi

1 month ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

are you sure the birth certificate is real and he hasn’t knocked off a couple years for baseball employment reasons?

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

1 month ago

Reply to RexFregosi

You’re right – I did not include the “Pujols Factor” in the calculation….

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Cowboy26

1 month ago

Reply to RexFregosi

Must have Grandpa’s agent then.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

1 month ago

At this point, keep Trout because the team will never get anything reasonably close to true value.

SP remains the team’s biggest weakness, followed closely by Tony “~~Two~~ Douche Bags” Rendon.

If the team isn’t going to give Adell another chance, then he should be dealt.

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Angelstan

1 month ago

No on the trade. Haniger is always hurt. Moving money isn’t helping. The other two guys won’t help enough to make anything worthwhile. Plus from a marketing standpoint (I know fans don’t want to hear that), they can only trade Trout if they re-sign Ohtani.

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halofansince1978

1 month ago

Speaking of former Halo.

If Bartolo went sixteenth.

The whole thing is lame!!

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/2_former_angels_standouts_selected_in_inaugural_baseball_united_league_draft/s1_17108_39441024

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WallyChuckChili

1 month ago

Stupid Orioles, you just can’t sneak The Great Tuck through waivers. But you weren’t the only idiots in the Moron category, the Twins lost Ortega after the Astros swooped in on Greatness!

Perry, where are you at?