Angels blow it, but win somehow

The Angels still had a game before losing up to 5 players to waivers… somehow. Whatever, the point was that they were basically tanking. So who was pitching anyway? Detmers. And he went only 4 innings, giving up 2 runs on 4 hits, striking out 3 and walking 3. Only 84 pitches too? Huh?

Well, at least Lopez got to pitch one last time in an Angel uniform. And it went horribly. TrAdition. How about the OF duo of Renfroe and Grichuk? Well today was Renfroe’s day to look good, going 3-4 with a home run and 4 rbi.

How about Matt Moore? He is on the waiver wire as well. Matt technically did better than Lopez, only giving up a 2 run home run instead of a 3 run one! But hey, at least he will be remembered forever as the one who gave up Harper’s 300th.

But the Angels offense was good enough and they win somehow.

Highlighted Recap

Renfroe got the first runs of the game with a 2 run home run in the 2nd.

2-0 Angels

The lead did not last as a hit

2-1 Angels

And another

Tied the game up

But the Angels offense wasn’t dead as a bunt actually worked.

3-2 Angels

And Ohtani was pitched to.

4-2 Angels

Even Drury showed up.

5-2 Angels

Alas the bullpen came in and gave up a run.

5-3 Angels

And then the lead, thanks Lopez, enjoy your new team.

6-5 Phillies

However, Renfroe came through in the top of the 8th with a 2 run single to take the lead back.

7-6 Angels

Hey, I know, let Matt Moore pitch one last time for the Angels and there goes the lead

8-7 Phillies

But these Angels do not give up, as Rengifo hit a sac fly to tie the game up after Nolan kept his hit streak alive.

TIED GAME

And then Drury came through, giving the Angels the lead again!

10-8 Angels

Angels win! Somehow.

Upcoming

No game tomorrow, Angels end August with a losing record and very shitty performances and injuries. It has been utterly pathetic and amazing how well this team likes to buttercup the fans. At Oakland this weekend as College Football starts and I have no idea who would want to watch the Angels over that.

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Sportsdominator23
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7 months ago

Once all the Claimed Players are taken here’s what I want to see 

Schanuel (First Base) (Keep learning & improving)
Ohtani (DH) (Triple Crown Please)
Drury (Second Base) (Continue to close out the Season strong)
Moose (Third Base) (Leader in the Clubhouse, so playing time warranted) 
Rengifo (Left Field) (He’s been raking in the 2nd half, earned his playing time)
O’Hoppe (Catcher) (Keep learning & improving)
Moniak (Center Field) (Keep learning & improving)
Cabbage (Right Field) (Keep learning & improving)
Neto (Shortstop) (Keep learning & improving)

Bench: Escobar (Still can’t find playing time), Wallach (Backing up O’Hoppe), Velazquez (Speed kills, Angels aren’t removing him), Adams (Someone has to backup the Outfield)

Trout can focus on getting healthy for next year (If he doesn’t demand a trade).
Rendon is basically Rendone (One of the Angels’ worst signings).
Adell can focus on getting healthy for next Spring (Outfield is wide open next year).
Ward should be back next year (Hopefully he can fully recover).
Thaiss can focus on getting healthy for next year (Not sure his injury extent & too GA to look up).
Urshela can focus on getting healthy for next year (Don’t mind him being Platooned or Utility Player).
Too GA to put up the Pitching side of things, lol (Let the Young guys Pitch & see who is worth keeping for next year).

Go Halos (Fun, exciting games is what I’m rooting for besides Shohei Ohtani going for Triple Crown and securing his 2nd MVP).

BartonSpringsMatt
Member
7 months ago

So do we have a chance to still get the 2nd rd compensation pick for Ohtani, if all the waiver players and their contracts get claimed? Or are we cursed with the 4th rounder because we made the I’ll advised trades?

Sportsdominator23
Trusted Member
7 months ago

If everyone is Claimed that was put on Waivers, that should be enough to put the Angels under the Luxury Tax (Anyone can correct me if I’m wrong). Therefore, if Ohtani leaves in the Offseason it becomes a 2nd round comp pick. If the Angels are over the Luxury Tax then him leaving would be a 4th round comp pick.

Fansince1971
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7 months ago

I’m guessing all players on waivers will be claimed. Even Renfroe would be a serviceable 4th or 5th outfielder for a playoff team. The pitchers would add depth to any playoff team.

Last edited 7 months ago by Fansince1971
Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

We just have to wait until 10 am west coast time tomorrow. It will be somewhat similar to August 1, but smaller in scale. I thought there were only 6 players. Texas would love to add Moore or Lopez especially after today’s disaster with Chapman, but other teams will scoop them up before Texas, who was rumored to have placed claims for all 6 Angel players.

Last edited 7 months ago by Kiyotchan
Fansince1971
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I think all of them are gone. Why wouldn’t they be? Low risk/high reward. Unless a team has a full 40 they are happy with – why not?

Last edited 7 months ago by Fansince1971
Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

The only complete team in my estimation is the Braves. All other teams have needs, so you are right. But as Cowboy26 mentioned, there are many players that are available such as Carlos Carrasco and Mike Clevinger and others who were not publicly announced. Even Trey Mancini asked for release from the Reds to make himself available. It will be another intriguing day how these transactions unfold tomorrow.

Fansince1971
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I agree. At a minimum though, I see the pitchers as gone.

Last edited 7 months ago by Fansince1971
rosstrade
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7 months ago

This was a disaster of a season.

It’s time to turn the page.

But how can the Halos pivot from this season and build any kind of positive momentum for next season?

The team is losing 6 quality players this year to save 7 million.

The only possible direction next year is to go with the youth movement and find more moving pieces to build a decent base.

But, Perry tried this this season – and look at where we are at.

It feels as though Phil is gone.

And, Perry is hanging by a thread….

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

A pivot starts with Moron-o selling

Fansince1971
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Agreed!

By the way did you know I was a 30 year season ticket holder? 😂

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Never heard that story. Do tell us again grandpa. 🤣

Fansince1971
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

It was a cold winters night. A rare cold front in Anaheim. I walked uphill both ways for miles to find the season ticket counter. Etc etc

Last edited 7 months ago by Fansince1971
Twebur
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7 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

And the earth shook

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halofansince1978
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7 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

1994 Northridge earthquake?

DowningDude
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7 months ago

What else?

WallyChuckChili
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Aftermath of Mo Vaughn falling down the stairs

DowningDude
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7 months ago

🤣🤣

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
7 months ago

While looking at the scores just now I realized I’d rather see Houston make the playoffs than Texas, although it looks like both will make it.

Twebur
Legend
7 months ago

Same..as much as I hate the Ass’to, they’ve been there and done it. Used to them winning.

I don’t want Texas and Seattle to succeed. Looks like all three make the postseason.
If the Blue Jays can overtake one of them, I hope it’s the Mariners.
My often wrong and bitter prediction is the M’s peaked to soon. They won’t keep this up all of September, going to run out of gas, dare I say choke.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

This is informative read if you are wondering where Giolito may end up tomorrow. Even at 62-72, they think that Padres might claim Giolito.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/the-best-fits-for-lucas-giolito.html

Guest
7 months ago

I’m so confused.
What are the Angels anymore?
What are they even trying to do?
What do I look for, what do I root for, when I watch a game?

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to 

Rengifo
Rengifo
Rengifo and Rengifo

Twebur
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Or..
Tank
Tank
Tank and Tank

And the Tanking will…….probably…..tank.

DowningDude
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7 months ago

I saw “2024 Season Tickets” in my inbox. Was about to press “SPAM” and suddenly noticed it was from IE69ers.

$637 for a full season strip of best tickets.

Call your ticket rep.

angelslogic
Super Member
7 months ago

For those who missed it, this is your last chance
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FungoAle
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7 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

I’m afraid Neto will have a version too. Geezus, get your ass back in the field.

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Nah, don’t rush back our future SS back out there with a bad back. Trouty on the other hand needs to return asap lol

FungoAle
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Volpe and McClain have stormed past Neto as the best young SS talent

smithy610
Super Member
7 months ago

Some insight as to why the Angels probably held on to Moose despite him being an FA too. I don’t know the actual savings for him, but maybe here’s why:

The Angels have also appreciated Moustakas’ presence in the clubhouse. It was notable that he was not among the six players reportedly placed on waivers, even though he’s also a free agent at the end of the season.

Whether or not Moustakas is back next season, the Angels clearly see value in the time he’s spending with the young players for the rest of this season.

“He’s still a really good major-league baseball player,” Nevin said. “He’s done a heckuva job for us. He’s won a lot of games for us. But more so he’s brought a lot to that room, instant credibility because of where he’s been and what he’s done in this game. He’s won a World Series, a lot of playoff games. The more guys you can have in your clubhouse like that, the better off you’re going to be.”

WallyChuckChili
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7 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

I thought that was why we signed Rendon

Twebur
Legend
7 months ago

I thought that is why we traded for Eduardo Escobar? Rengifo’s big accountability brother?

Both of these “credibility guys” will likely be gone next year and then who will set the example in the clubhouse?

https://youtu.be/A6uxiSsPWuA?si=7BmBiFv0pyYtVdO1

Last edited 7 months ago by Twebur
Guest
7 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Sounds like a Harry Nilsson song.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to 

I didn’t know the Incredible Hulk had any kids.

steelgolf
Super Member
7 months ago

Who?

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

They’d probably like to re-sign him for 24’ as well.

Fansince1971
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7 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Mouse is on his best behavior hoping he can pick Arte’s pocket.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Mouse? Disney wants to buy the Angels again?

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago

I assume Moore, Lopez, Giolito, Grichuk and Renfroe will all be claimed. With the need to replace those 5 players and add an additional 2 as the rosters expand to 28 on 9/1, I hope we prioritize youth and players will theoretical “upside”.

DH – Ohtani
C – O’Hoppe
1B – Schanuel
2B – Drury
SS – Rengifo
3B – Moose
LF – Adams
CF – Moniak
RF – Cabbage
bench – Escobar, Wallach, Brett Phillips, Livan Soto, Michael Stefanic, Kyren Paris

SP – Sandoval, Detmers, Canning, Silseth, Anderson

RP – Estevez, Soriano, Leon, Loup, Barria, Gerardo Reyes, Jose Marte, Victor Mederos

Left off Velasquez and Rosenberg who are presently on the active roster, but much to my dismay, will likely stick around.

Neto is expected back in 10ish days, per Fletcher. Joyce had a rehab assignment today and is questionable to return this season. Thaiss, Bachman and Adell are doubtful to return. I refuse to make any more guesses about Trout and his health.

Surely, Perry will make us suffer thru AAAA players in Squid, Rosenberg, Herget, Ingram, Fletcher, Walsh, Padlo.

Last edited 7 months ago by Pineapple12
DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Can’t believe anyone types Brett Phillips into a comment here

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Dude, I didn’t want to lol. I had Phillips properly grouped with his fellow AAAA players, but until Trout returns the OF options are RUFF lol.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

he sure can handle helmet quite well.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

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Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

To get CtPGers few more chuckles.
https://youtu.be/SBpsUxR1qzU?si=20DLYhan56CBG_Uz

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Phillips should not even be organizational depth

Twebur
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Remember when? Brett Phillips was a thing. One of the whipping boys. Back when we would talk about getting rid of him, fine-tune the team. Bring up Adell, before Mickey’s magical little fart parade when he was a Team MVP candidate. Back when we thought of a possible playoff run and the team’s future development. Back when Renfroe, Walsh and Ward were going to have big years…Now look at us. From all that to rooting for Thomas the Tank Engine. Things implode quickly with this team. Good times!😀

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

For those that don’t want to place any blame on Perry, remember we started the season with Phillips and Lamb as our 4th outfielder and backup first baseman.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I would definitely like to see Moniak, Adams, Adell, Schanuel, and Cabbage play as much as possible. Assuming Adell returns. This won’t happen, but what’s the purpose of playing Trout. They need to look at their young players. If Adell does not return, I would like to see Moniak, Adams, and Cabbage play the outfield every day so you can evaluate them against major league pitching.

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I’m all for the youth movement, but if Trout can play I want to see him play. For the fans, for himself, for the record books, for Shohei, for the team … there is no world in which I’d rather evaluate Jordyn Adams and Trey Cabbage over watching Mike Trout play in his final season with Shohei.

Btw, Adell is most likely out for the season.

/rant over

Last edited 7 months ago by Pineapple12
DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I want Masher Trout back and not K3YerOutTrout

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I don’t think it will be an issue because he may not return anyway. Under any normal circumstances, I would obviously want Trout playing, but returning from a broken hand to play in meaningless games in September when he wasn’t exactly tearing it up before he was injured not so much. I would much rather evaluate Adams and Cabbage this September instead of next April in games that could potentially count unless they are tanking.

red floyd
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Reminds me of 2003. I was watching a game towards the end of the season, and was all, “Who TF are these guys?”

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
7 months ago

Unbelievable win for a team that just cashed out. Wonder if Renfro tried extra hard today hoping to look good so a competitor picks him up. A Positive, tickets to remaining home games gonna be really cheap, especially if you buy game day. Gonna enjoy seeing Ohtani live regardless if games are meaningless.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

A’s can count on at least one thousand Japanese people each game to attend at Oakland Coliseum though I anticipate the tickets will be plenty available. I just checked MLB.com Oakland site. There are many tickets available from $14.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

Important additional information. This means that I will be looking at today’s Bee’s game and track and note who will be held back.
https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1696996969388834896

Last edited 7 months ago by Kiyotchan
Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I wonder if Jeff or Sammy would track if any or all of those 6 wavered players got on the chartered plane to Oakland.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

still want Sammy or Jeffy to interview the “rendon bitch fan” in Oakland. I would subscribe to the Athletic or OC Register if those articles were published.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Why wouldn’t they? They are still contractually obligated to the Angels, and it’s far from certain that any player claimed will be informed before tomorrow morning. Altho, it would make for a great MeanArte thread if they left them all in Philadelphia.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Put them up in the Philly projects for a night. Will Smiths old stomping grounds

aces666high
Trusted Member
7 months ago

Shoutout to the bullpen who managed to stink it up (minus Estevez) big time. Renfroe w/another meaningless HR. All those AB’s when the season mattered and it may as well have been me hacking at pitches 3 feet out of the zone. Oh well.

Thumbs up to Nevin who finally figured out you can bunt and sometimes good things happen! Everyone doesn’t have to hit a HR. Take that kernel of knowledge with you for your next stop in AA or Jr college.

This “team” is disintegrating right before our eyes and hopefully they finish the job. Only a complete 3 stooges finish will bring the full on change this franchise needs. That fool Arte will probably still be around sadly but maybe bring the laughingstock of MLB will get him to step back when he hires a new GM, and coaching staff.

max
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max
7 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

Yeah it feels like a new regime is coming, but who would really be better that PTP, given his circumstances (would a guy like Dombrowski/Herzog/Epstein sign here without being autonomous?). Like to see PTP go for at least a couple more years with his own hamdpicked Ausmus. And with more autonomy, which it appears that he has more than Eppler and DiPoto

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

Cardinals just walked off hapless Padres, come from behind one down in the bottom of the 9th. Cardinals are only 6 games behind the Angels.

Eric_in_Portland
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

San Diego is now 6-22 in 1 run games, 0-11 in extra innings

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

Cubs are the opposite end of the spectrum where they gambled by being a buyer at the trade deadline. They were 43-49 at ASG. Good for them.

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago

Baseball is fun.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

That would have been a great game as introduction to someone who never experienced baseball before.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

Team’s RISP today: 6 for 11. Amazing. Could that be Angels season best? That’s despite 11Ks, 6 of them coming from Schanuel, Hee-Fo, and Sho.

Because the official scorer corrected  🐙  bunt hit to sac bunt, the Angels missed the feat where all starters had at least one hit today. If  🐙  is starting (hopefully Neto or Moniak returns to action), he needs to bunt every single time and I do not mind even if he fails 3rd strike bunt..

Last edited 7 months ago by Kiyotchan
Eric_in_Portland
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7 months ago

I’m dizzy and a bit nauseous

Fansince1971
Legend
7 months ago

Will be a nicer airplane ride home for sure!

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Not so much when they find out where they are heading.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

The Timbuktu Sand Pits

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Arte put them on Greyhound busses to save money

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Fake News. He booked a fleet of rickshas.

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DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago

We’re wasting Renfroe’s prime

Sportsdominator23
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I mean if another team claims him, that won’t be the case

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago

Embrace the meme

DowningDude
Legend
7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

(that was his last game as an Angel)

Also, I got to see the one game Trout and Grichuk played in the same outfield. 🤣