LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Six Days

Six days are now left until the trade deadline.
As we approach the trade deadline the Angels win more often than they lose As a result, the trade of Shohei Ohtani becomes less likely. The Pirates just released infielder Drew Maggi. Meanwhile the Twins released Aaron Sanchez. The Yankees released Michael Feliz so he could go sign with the Chunichi Dragons. Raimel Tapia cleared waivers and elected free agency.

The Cardinals activated Adam Wainright from the 15 day IL. The Guardians moved Shane Bieber to the 60 day IL and selected Daniel Norris. Outfielder Lee Jung-hoo of the Kiwoom Heroes will have season ending ankle surgery. In total, four Rockies are having Tommy John surgery this week.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago

Today (essentially right after Angels game) Hanamaki East High School (where Sho played ball and graduated from) will play the final game in regional Iwate summer tournament. If they win this game, they punch the ticket to the national Koshien tournament. So, Sho will try to provide a good omen for alma mater by doing the following.
https://youtu.be/JKcgaCdKqTU

Last edited 8 months ago by Kiyotchan
Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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bobblanton
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8 months ago

Angels rallying cry”can’t chase wins everyday. He is banking on Regnifo and Velazquez hitting 3 more home runs today

bobblanton
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8 months ago
Reply to  bobblanton

He has a gut feeling

bobblanton
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8 months ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Might be gas Phil

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago

If Neto’s back condition is this tenuous now, he’ll probably be dealing with it for the a while moving forward wether he’s playing or on the IL. Wonderful.

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
8 months ago

Neto scratched from the game tonight. Still dealing with back issues.
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1683939148821065729?t=a–Gi8dyH3pltNXsB-ofQg&s=19

Last edited 8 months ago by JakeTaylor
Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

The gift that keeps on giving.

Thanks HassleMoran.

Twebur
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8 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

60 day IL 10,9,8,7,6,5,4………….

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Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

1994 revisited.

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

We are definitely cursed. Stud young SS has a bad back already

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago

Might be friendly fire by certain 3rd base coach.

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

’94 was the strike. Do you mean 1995?

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
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DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Smogridge Quake affected Anaslime Stadium’s lame left field scoreboard. Marlboro man took a tumble.

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

Always protect the player from themselves.

Rare Nevin W imo

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

or from your third base coach.

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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8 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

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Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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8 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

Why not Stefanic vs lefty. Very strange yet predictable and common L

Cowboy26
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8 months ago

Squid hits Lefties much better than RHP’s this year ( .831 OPS vs .533 OPS) . So do Rengiblow ( .862 OPS vs .599 OPS) & Escobar (.788 OPS vs .544 OPS) . So unless they sit Moose and play Escobar at first and Rengiblow at Third theres no room at the Inn for the Plumber.

DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Nice comment!

Twebur
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8 months ago

Still shocked we didn’t sign him….he’s gone full Angel FA.
https://fansided.com/2023/07/24/trea-turner-rough-season-goes-bad-worse-ejection-boos/

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

He just Wasn’t with Doyers long enough to remember the way. Just like Tyler Anderson

Cowboy26
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8 months ago

Stupid Perry really blew it. Im surprised Evil Arte didnt threaten Perry with his job for not signing him.

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Twebur
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8 months ago

Assuming he could get us something in return, hopefully more than rental for remainder of the season. This is also assumes we plan on Adell being a part of the OF next year. This will make the Rule 5 issue moot. PTP, find us a pitcher. Or find us the next O’hop or Mick Moniak.

https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1683272569263362049?s=20

grichmanpoorman
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8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

There’s a lot to like about him… OBP over .350, 80-grade speed, still only 23 years old. Would be a shame to deal him without seeing him a bit in Anaheim. I don’t think the Rule 5 thing is an issue at this point… 40-man roster is a given.

Twebur
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8 months ago

Rain might play a part in tomorrows game.

sadnewfan
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8 months ago

The starters haven’t been bad the last 6 games, averaging 2.5 ER runs per game (well, 5-7 innings). Ohtani had the worst outing with 5 ER. Maybe they’re coming around?

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago

Neto is back !!!

Starting and leading off !!

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago

Good news Neto is back!

Neto SS
Ohtani DH
Ward LF
Moose 3B
Escobar 1B
Moniak CF
Renfroe RF
Rengifo 2B
Wallach C

Let’s get the first win of the series! Go Halos!

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Ha ha.. beat me by 20 seconds!!!

And we used exactly the same phrase !!!

Last edited 8 months ago by JackFrost
Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

We are back to R/L/R/L/S/L/R/S/R.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Rodriguez is VERY tough though… His ERA is better than Shohei, and by ALOT.

He’s sub 3.00 at 2.69!

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Perfect time for some regression! Even at his best he’s been high 3’s

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago

…. one can hope. What do we call it “Hopium” ?

DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Yes – inhale deeply – then exhale. 🤢🍃🚬

Fansince1971
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8 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

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DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Beautimous!

KPAngel
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8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Trade for him before he starts tonight! Win win!

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  KPAngel

Thats thinking outside the box.

Well done.

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

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Kiyotchan
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Revised after Neto is taken off the lineup:

Rengifo 2B
Ohtani DH
Ward LF
Moose 3B
Escobar 1B
Moniak CF
Renfroe RF
Wallach CF
 🐙  SS

I reiterate my hope for Angel’s win tonight. Go Halos!

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

It is now S/L/R/L/S/L/R/R/S.

Twebur
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8 months ago

More 16-year old Davidxon and less Tuck friendly Davidson.

https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1683590094064877572?s=20

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8 months ago

Although the Angels were shut out in the second game, they were still able to plate 15 runs in their three-game set against the Pirates. Here is who produced how much of those 15 runs:

3.00 Moustakas
2.50 Ward
2.00 Moniak
2.00 Rengifo
1.75 Ohtani
1.00 Neto
1.00 Velazquez
1.00 Cabbage
0.50 Thaiss
0.25 Escobar

This is the first time Moose has led the Angels in Actual Runs Produced. After a decent start upon first joining the team, Escobar has been leaving himself out of the run-producing party these last few series.

Here is the update on ARA/BF:

0.06 Estevez (167)
0.07 Moore (115)
0.09 Bachman (77)
0.09 Soriano (74)
0.10 Ohtani (459)
0.10 Sandoval (412)
0.10 Weiss (21)
0.10 Joyce (21)
0.11 Detmers (415)
0.11 Canning (335)
0.11 Silseth (107)
0.12 Barria (242)
0.13 Anderson (420)
0.13 Webb (117)
0.15 Loup (127)
0.15 Wantz (96)
0.16 Davidson (148)
0.16 Devenski (140)
0.18 Herget (71)
0.18 Reyes (28)
0.19 Suarez (123)
0.21 Mederos (14)
0.23 Ingram (14)

Anderson lately has performed solidly as a #5 starter. Now that Barria is back on relief duty, he is seeing his recently bruised ARA/BF begin to heal.

The Angel position players and relievers have been frequenting the Injured List, but outside of Suarez and minor finger trouble from Ohtani, the Angel starting pitchers have been surprisingly healthy.

Eric_in_Portland
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8 months ago
Reply to 

Was Renfroe accidentally left off or was his score 0?

Guest
8 months ago

His score was zero.

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 months ago

The Mets need salary relief. How about the shorter contract between Scherzer or Verlander for one of our non-Ohtani starters and a couple other lesser prospects who are far away from the MLB roster. Having two real starters makes us somewhat more credible in a playoff series. This gives the Mets some salary relief and a usable starter right away.

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

They would probably do that for Dietmers or Canning. Maybe Sandy too

JackFrost
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8 months ago

I might do it for Canning; I would not do it for either Detmers or Sandoval…

Last edited 8 months ago by JackFrost
HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
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8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

That’s an interesting take. Both have lower ERa’s than griff this year and Sandy had a 2.91 ERA last year and 3.69 the year before that. Reid 3.77 last year. Griffs best season was 3.99. FIP is even more in favor of Reid and Sandy.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago

Sandy from last year was closer to the “real” Sandoval in my opinion…

Also, Detmers’ ceiling makes it really inadvisable to trade him…

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Got u! I thought you were speaking from the Mets perspective. Yea Im with you on that order of preference from our vantage point as well.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago

No on Detmers, Sandy & Griffen. If the Mets are looking to shed salary, we needn’t help them by trading our young core.

Deal them some
minor league prospects.

Twebur
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8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

The Mets need salary relief. ???

Since when do they need to relieve themselves of payroll? It’s the Mets! More likely to increase salary……I’m relieving my self right now, calling bull shit.

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

That’s what I’m hearing on the internet. Not winning this year. Trying to get younger. Go after different FA’s next year.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago

This is time when my Delusional Hyperbole occupy my mind waiting for Angels game, which thankfully starts at 3:40pm.

The east coast cable company whose name I have pledged not to pronounce at this site reported that Apple was huge factor in recruiting Messi to sign with Inter Miami MLS team. That made me look up that Miami Inter is co-owned by David Beckham and Masa Son, who is also the owner of SoftBank Hawks of NPB. Son and late Steve Jobs were BFFs.

Remember I posted yesterday about Apple considering purchase of Disney? Well, I may not be that far-fetched that Apple may consider having the same ownership of Beckham and Son to approach Moreno with an offer that is so good that Moreno cannot refuse. Then, Apple will move to take over all the broadcasting of MLB games with full approval of ManFraud. Son has been well-known to be interested in owning an MLB team.

Last edited 8 months ago by Kiyotchan
fishfarm
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Let’s just have Disney buy the Angels again, Apple takes on MLB streaming, buys Disney for BAMtech and the Angels come along for the ride and its kind of like the band is all back together again.

let’s talk regional naming and periwinkle in part 2

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  fishfarm

From what I read, Disney Plus (especially in India) lost gazillions of money in the midst of streaming service glut/competition, and Marvel films are not doing that well at the box office because they are putting out too many of them. Disney is rumored to sell its streaming service along with Marvel film department to Apple or be totally sold. (FTC will have some say if Apple attempts to buy Disney. I hope that Biden is a fan of Mickey Moniak.) If you have Disney stock, it may be time to buy more before the purchase by Apple.

Disclaimer: I am not licensed to promote investment products. Please do so at your own risk.

Last edited 8 months ago by Kiyotchan
fishfarm
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Mostly my comment was tongue-in-cheek, but as far as Disney’s troubles go, I think its less of a competition thing and more of a holy-crap-this-movie-sucks thing with nearly every release for the last 2-3 years. I don’t know anything about their troubles in India.

I think their stuff just stinks now and my 8 and 5 year old seem to agree. Except Bluey. Bluey freaking rules. Oh wait they licensed that lol

Last edited 8 months ago by fishfarm
Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  fishfarm

Thank you for suggesting what to watch if and when Angels fall out of playoff contention later this summer.  😄 

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Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Mum… dad .. Bingo…Bluey!!

Marcotor
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Ugh. The Disney/Apple rumors have been around since the time of Toy Story. Fake News.

DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

With our luck, we’ll get Road Apple

💩

nishiogawakun
Super Member
8 months ago

Speaking personally, there’s a limit to how much effort and attention I will dedicate to something that I have no control over, something that technically is someone else’s job. There’s also a little bit of defeatism there as well, kind of like how I think trying to day trade the stock market is a waste because there’s hundreds of veritable geniuses who will figure out how to beat me to any wins long before I even finish picking my nose.

What Perry does with Shohei feels to me a little like that. It’s his full time job, he’s got a team of professionals crunching the numbers, and he’s got way more info and experience than we can come close to. Not that it isn’t fun to speculate and opine, but I have my limits to how much energy I personally will invest. It is what it is, and Perry will make the decision he feels is best for the club, he’s not some saboteur.

The only difference between those ivy league wolfs of Wall Street and the Angels is that even with all the data, experience, and resources, I’m not confident that they’ll get it right when all the dust settles given their track record!  😅 . Here’s to hoping!

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago

To balance out my positivity with a dose of “reality” I will admit …

Our pitching is bordering on atrocious for a playoff hopeful.

If we perform well enough in the next week to justify adding pieces, Perry should be buying 3 legitimate bullpen arms. Probably use another starter as well (Giolito).

Last edited 8 months ago by Pineapple12
Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

A few weeks back Giolito was the stealth move in any trade talks with the Sox. While most teams were on the Cease train. He has been straight shoving in his last few starts (minus a Mets meltdown) to the point that he now might be the most desired starter at the deadline. But I agree we need a starter and at least 1 pen arm if we keep Sho and want to make a run.

It would also be sweet to get a 1B with some thump. A reunion with CJ Cron would be dope and we seem to be cool with the Rockies and swinging deals already. We all know Rendon is not coming back and on the off chance he does, he should be a part time player.

Neto – SS
Sho – DH
Trout – CF
Moniak – RF
Drury – 2B
Ward – LF
Cron – 1B
Mous / Rendon – 3b
Ohoppe / Thaiss – C

One caveat is that 2nd half of the lineup might be the slowest grouping of dudes in baseball history while everyone is going back to the speed game.. But sometimes you gotta zig when others zag.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 months ago

da-da-da-daaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Fear and trepidation in the next coming days.

Twebur
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8 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

The To do list to keep this thing going and win the road trip.

Get a few big hits. Get a few big outs. Don’t shoot yourselves in groin. DO NOT be the other teams buddy. A guy or 2 needs get hot. Renfroe is due to hit again, please, stop hibernating, wake up. Maybe Rengifo is heating up? Ward needs to get a few big hits this trip. And get healthy, get Neto on the field and get Drury back. Those two can make a huge difference.

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 months ago

I was reading the OCR story why fans don’t like Arturo where they posted a partial list of bad FA transactions. It’s almost stunning for its ineptness. Can you think of other awful ones that should be added?

Vernon Wells, Gary Mathews Jr., Josh Hamilton, Albert Pujols, Anthony Rendon 

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

More like a major bummer

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

As was Cody Allen.

PublicAnimalNo9
Newbie
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Zack Cozart and a ton of bad 1 year pitching contracts like, Jose Quintana, Matt Harvey Trevor Cahill because he refuses to spend longer term money on quality starters.

Twebur
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Arte is a career killer.

Signed to a lesser contract
Steve Finley. He was completely done after us.
Fletcher, career in free fall
Hell Stassi has actually gone missing since his extension
Zack Cozart killed career here

fishfarm
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

On Zack Cozart — he was who he was. Angels signed him on an outlier year and everyone except the Angels could tell you what was going to happen.

Twebur
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8 months ago
Reply to  fishfarm

The Mathew’s contract was Arte’s classic “one year outlier contract.”

That 5 for 50 million is hard to beat.

fishfarm
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8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Yea those two contracts are like a two turds peas in a turd pod.

tommyshalo
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8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

It happens that Arte is either too evil or too cheap to save anybody.

h27kim
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8 months ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

He’s both: he throws money on bad contracts and skimps on other things (b/c if those bad contracts, presumably.) The trouble with Arte isn’t that he’s “cheap,” but that his spending priorities are all wrong.

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

Still dreaming about the alternate reality where Arte actually negotiated with Beltre, instead of dropping a “Take it or leave it” offer.

As far as I can tell, the only good FA contracts Arte landed were the 2004 class and Torii.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

I would have to include Joe Smith, Carlos Estevez and Shohei Ohtani in that class as well.

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yes. I agree on Alias, hadn’t even thought about Estevez, but would like to see more than one season, and honestly forgot that Shohei was a FA.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

I would also think Bobby Abreu would be included as a win. What are your thoughts on Orlando Cabrera, Paul Byrd, Scott Downs, Yusmeiro Petit & Matt Moore? (although alot of those are just 1 year deals)

Thats pretty much all I got. I didnt include any other International free agents like Kendra’s Morales or Jean Segura since Shohei’s deal was so unique.

Last edited 8 months ago by Cowboy26
red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Even so, that’s a shitty record on FAs. 8 good ones over 20 years?

Hell, I’ll even give CJ the benefit of the doubt. 9 over 20 still sucks.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Tyler Anderson is looking like a sure fire bust of a contract. Looking forward to those year 34 and 35 seasons!

Pineapple12
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8 months ago
Reply to  fishfarm

Perry fumbled that one badly. He could’ve and should’ve re-signed Lorenzen for less AAV and term lol.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  fishfarm

Maybe the Dodgers take him back and fix him

fishfarm
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Let’s toss Rendon in there since we’re in a wishing mood.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

CJ (Photographer) Wilson, Justin Upton, Ji Man Choi, Matt (Prettiest LH strike-out swing) Joyce, Raul Ibanez, Joe Blanton, Juan Lagares….

One of these may be via trade, but I stuck with the agreed concept, “Subtraction through addition” type of players

Twebur
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8 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Matt Joyce, forgot about that shit contract.

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

To be fair, we got 2-3 decent years out of CJ before he sucked.

DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Plus with CJ we got some glorious Head & Shoulders commercials

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Whatever, dude. 🙂

DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Hehehe

BruinsAngelsKings
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8 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Had I not seen this picture I would not have believed Ji Man Choi ever played for the Angels. Totally forgot about that.

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DowningDude
Legend
8 months ago

I clapped when I saw him the other day. Then he hit an absolute bomb against Shohei so I had to boo him in all subsequent AB’s

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Cody Allen. Tim Lincecum.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

The freak, oh man I meant to list him as well…..

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I’m guessing outside of the big fish FA’s the Angels signed, the rest fall on the lap of the GM. I don’t hold Arte accountable to the likes of Claudio, Cishek, Thor, Loup, Tepera, Ty-Ty Anderson and on an on. Outside of Estevez, has Perry hit on anything?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Moore is kinda good. Devenski was good, not so much now.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Yeah, Moore has been pretty solid. I poo-poo-d this one in favor of Chaffin but Moore has been the better arm thus far. Devenski was signed to a minor league deal, right? I.E waiver wire trash where GMs take a gamble. Chris’s historical trends have now caught up with him.

Claret
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I still don’t understand how any GM worth his salt loses Nate Eovaldi to a divisional rival and offers $5 million more in guaranteed money to Tyler Anderson.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Claret

Source on Nate Eovaldi? Because Everything I read says he wanted to play at home for Texas

Marcotor
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Wells was not a FA, he had long before signed the worst contract in baseball. Angels panicked after missing Carl Crawford, and traded for Wells.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Worst Trade EVA

Simba
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Angels managed to trade for the untradeable contract.

PublicAnimalNo9
Newbie
8 months ago

I’m so tired of the constant Shohei trade talk. I think the Angels should go for broke and be buyers. Try to get another solid starter and more bullpen help. I know it’s the Angels, but being only 4 games out of a playoff spot, they have to go for it and show him that they are committed to winning. Not only would there be a better chance of playing in October, but maybe make him feel better about possibly resigning with the Angels.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
8 months ago

Word. Suck it up, trade for Golito or Stroman or whoever, make a charge for the finish line. Or maybe not, and just enjoy the Ohtani breakup sex. (And maybe he re-signs. Who knows?)

Twebur
Legend
8 months ago

We need help in the BP more than anything. I’d think we’d use our limited resources to get at least another arm. Someone who can replace Webb or Reyes, that can work the 6th or 7th and get outs. Doesn’t need to be an all star, just better + than them.

Why Tucker Davidson still has a spot on this roster is mind boggling and needs to be investigated. Honestly, have they forgotten his on the team? Make the dancing Barria the long guy.
Need to hope that Sammy B can come back at least be an option more nights than not.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Bard, Barlow, Shreve, Suter, Graveman. One or two of them have to be targeted.

tanana40
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Somehow, I think the Angels worry that since Davidson is out options, he won’t clear waivers. They must think long term he can be good but I don’t see it.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

He has only pitched 2.2 innings for us in July (1.1 on the 3rd, and 1.1 on the 15th). If we have him, he should pitch. If he can’t pitch (because they don’t trust him), run him through waivers or DFA – we need live arms to compete.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

More of him refusing to go to AA and becoming an immediate FA. He’d get picked up for league minimum.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

TD is out of options bub!

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

This.

For all the b*tching about Rengifo, Davidson is easily the worst player on the roster.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago

Yessir! A man cut from the same cloth is someone I can relate with. Perry has got to be working the phone hard because all teams are looking to bolster. No time to fall in love with prospects. Quero, Bush and Bachman are assets, use them.

Last edited 8 months ago by FungoAle
BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago

This has been my basic position since Spring Training.

If they’re “in it” with the best players in the game and a declining Trout, they should go all-in now.

Of all the team sports, getting hot and playing well at the right time can result in a World Series championship – even for less
talented squads, unlike the NBA or NFL where the better/best teams typically win in the end.

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I would actually agree with you in other circumstances.

What has me taking the exact opposite opinion is two things:
My definition of “in it”
and
The possible value that can be returned by trading pieces we have is much higher than the usual Angels’ July.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

My approach is a gamble, I acknowledge that fact.

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Yes, and indeed I acknowledge that the young players we’d receive in a trade are a gamble too.
Everything is a gamble. Any player could suddenly walk away from the game like Buttrey too. You and I are just looking at the odds and forming our opinions based on what we feel most comfortable with.

PublicAnimalNo9
Newbie
8 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

However getting prospects in return is a gamble as well. If they trade him, they pretty much guarantee he will sign elsewhere because they are giving up on the season. If they improve the team to make a run at it, he at least sees they are willing to try to win and possibly keep him.

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 months ago

Ah, and there is the piece that sways you and doesn’t sway me, which makes sense why we disagree.
I do not necessarily have any interest in signing Ohtani.

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t that I don’t want the greatest player I’ve ever seen on my team. I’m very bummed.

I’ve just accepted the reality that with this owner Arte, that it does not seem at all a wise decision to add a $500 10yr contract. We just had 10 years of that with Pujols. Arte will surround Trout, Ohtani and Rendon with Squids, Capt Jacks, Wades, Duffys, etc etc.

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago

Angels are 51-49

7 losses back of the division
7 losses back of WC1
5 losses back of WC2
4 losses back of WC3

7-25 Rooting Guide

Angels > Tigers
Marlins > Rays
Mets > Yankees
Braves > Red Sox
Royals > Guardians
Twins > Mariners
Astros > Rangers
Dodgers > Blue Jays

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

We (almost) desperately need LAD to take the next 2 against TOR.

It is in our best interest to root for a HOU sweep vs TEX. It would result in both teams having the same record and HOU has a much easier September schedule. TEX is also banged up pretty bad.

Rays are 4-14 in July and their next 5 games come against MIA and HOU. If they keep reeling … 👀👀

By any means necessary LAA has to win this series in DET.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I guess that means if we got swept then we can start thinking about partners in an Ohtani trade ?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I’m waiting for the group-think to morph towards “Platypus can draft a great potential replacement with a compensation pick in the mid-60’s……”

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago

if you are anything like your internet persona you must be a real joy huh lol

DowningDude
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

he/she/they sound(s) f’ing hilarious.

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Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

gives off the vibe of somebody that happily destroys sandcastles on the beach because they aren’t up to their standard.

halofansince1978
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Indeed…from the Kylosian.  😎 

Twebur
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

The truth isn’t usually Joyful. In todays world, the truth is funny. Being positive for the sake of being positive shouldn’t make you joyful.

Now, please stay off the grass. I just mowed it and I don’t want any of your dirty shoes prints on my lawn.

With certainty yesterday, local TV sports and Radio, claim Shohei is 100% singing with the Doyers next year, regardless if he’s traded there first.

Starting to believe them.

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

What’s the truth tho?

I posted the daily rooting guide and some notes on the AL Playoff race.

Being met with the same reply(s) day after day after day is exhausting. If you don’t want to engage intelligently about the Angels’ playoff chances, then don’t. It’s quite simple.

I’m not ignorant to Ohtani’s possible departure in a trade/FA. All I’m doing is following the Angels’ postseason hopes on an Angels’ fansite.

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Twebur
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

My opinion isn’t directed at you specifically. Just an observation and comment about the hopeful ones. All opinions are loved and supported here.

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I, for one, always look forward to your post. I sometimes differ on who to cheer for, but mostly you and I are on the same ‘winning’ page.

I am happy that most people tolerate my mumbo-jumbo. Every once in a while, I even receive thanks for my translating Sho’s Q&A though it is exhausting task at times especially for elderly like me.

Keep up your good work.

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JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

What do “local TV sports and Radio” know ? I mean, you and I know alot more about this situation than they do … It may be that Shohei does sign with the Doyers in the off-season, but to say it is 100% just reeks of idiocy…

The other thing, (and I’ve said this before) there is NO way in hell that Arte will trade Ohtani to the Dodgers. That one you can take to the bank.

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Twebur
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Last night NBC sports guy, “paraphrasing” Shohei might not be traded here because “Idiot Arte,” but he’s likely going to to sign here as a FA.

Don’t remember the radio station yesterday, they all sound the same…..they were saying…. I know a guy, who knows a guy, who works for the Doyers and they will never be outbid for him. And the Doyers poop is scent free and perfect in every way, so why wouldn’t he sign there knowing this. It’s a done deal, just not official yet.

Probably true.

Last edited 8 months ago by Twebur
JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

But saying it is “probably” going to happen is not the same thing as saying it is “100%.”

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago

Ha ha. Yeah, I never understood all these people getting a woody over a simple compensation pick …

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I don’t think it helps us to have the Astros beat Texas right now. I think we have to root for Texas in that series … I guess if you expect the Rangers to really underperform the entire 2nd half and drop down to WC 2 or WC 3 territory then you can justify it, but as it stands they still have a 2 game lead in division and are less likely to be caught by us …

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Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I put some real thought into this last night.

HOU is an absolute machine and after 162 games they will finish on top of the AL West once again. They have a stretch in September where 9/12 games are against the A’s and Royals. Furthermore, we only have 3 games left vs HOU and already lost the season series to them.

I would much rather try to chase TEX down. Seager and Garcia are hurt and their bullpen is objectively worse than the Astros’ pen. We can still win the season series against TEX (we are currently up 4-3) with 6 games left H2H.

Last edited 8 months ago by Pineapple12
Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Asstros were 66-35 at this time last year. They are “only” 57-44 this year. The kryptonite for them will be their SPs. Javier and Bielak are absolutely exhausted according Houston Chronicles. Unless they supplant SP arms by trade, they will not win World Series against Braves or Dodgers.

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

HOU may not win the WS, but will win the division. Whatever devil magic (some call trash cans) they got down there ain’t slowing down yet.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Let me sheepishly predict that AL West division title is not quite over for 4 teams.

Last edited 8 months ago by Kiyotchan
Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

ooo thats a hot take. If I had to predict the divisions …

East = BAL
Central = MIN
West = HOU

I think TB and TEX will be coming back to the WC pack in short order.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

We are truly living in the golden age of takes.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yeah, the tie-breaker thing is one point in favor of your argument. Assuming we can play at least .500 in the remaining games vs Texas then we can win the season series against them … Of course that only helps us if we finish tied with them — and in reality that is highly unlikely based upon our respective records… But you may be right about the Astros overtaking them … I think the fact that they are playing this well without both Alvarez and the cheating dwarf would tend to support that line of thinking …

Last edited 8 months ago by JackFrost
KPAngel
Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Much appreciate the list!

But that’s a lot of hope!

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  KPAngel

it’s the hope that keeps me alive ! 😭

Twebur
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

‘Keep Hope Alive’ 
‘Keep Hope Alive’ 
‘Keep Hope Alive’ 
‘Keep Hope Alive’ 

-Jesse Jackson

https://youtu.be/kr1RK6T-HZY?t=206