Angels get pathetically blown out by the Dodgers, fall below .500

It was the last game before the All Star break and the Angels needed a miracle. But instead of that, their losing ways continued. Detmers was not effective, Jo Adell got hurt, and the bats were meh outside of Shohei. It was truly a game that has been common as of late. Since the games against the Dodgers at Angel Stadium this year, the Angels have looked less like a playoff contender and more like the 2022 Angels.

Considering how hurt the team is, the 2023 team looks a lot like the 2022 team at the moment. Squid is starting, Rengifo is out of position, and the pitching staff is filled with people who need more time in the minors but cannot due to desperate need. This is not how a winning ballclub operates. But what else could you do? Not only are the starters hurt, but those replacements are as well.

Shohei Ohtani was again the only player who looked to belong in the lineup. He had a chance for a cycle again, but fell short. That is all that anyone cares about really, his Home Run, Triple, and single with a sac fly as well. Here, watch that and pretend that this is a good team for a moment.

BOOM

Anyway, Ohtani now has 32 Home runs and 6 triples before the break. That has happened by Willie Mays and no one else. Very Tungsten Arm. The Angels are now 45-46 and have questions to answer after the break. My guess is that the team does nothing per usual.

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Eric_in_Portland
Legend
10 months ago

I didn’t like Shohei’s demeanor on his homerun trot. His face suggested he knew it was futile. Perhaps I’m reading into it “like the season”

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago

A bad game in a streak no one is happy about- not even the guy who had one of the great half-seasons in mlb history

Dinkycreek
Member
10 months ago

Please do away with the stupid hat after HRs.

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago

CtPG guy (summer of 1974)
we could get prospectz! for Ryan and Tanana! Can’t compete now so trade them for best offer.

CtPG guy (summer of 2001)
we could get prospectz! for Salmon and GA! Can’t compete now so trade them for best offer.

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

100% disagree with this take. The business of baseball was completely different in 1974. Also neither Ryan nor Tanana were set to leave the team as a free agent at the end of the ‘74 season. It’s a silly comparison.

In 2001 neither Salmon nor GA were poised to leave the team after that season. Neither was going to take the equivalent of $500 million to keep on the team. They were young, productive and reasonable (payroll wise) and not about to enter free agency. Again, a silly and inapplicable take.

Ohtani is very likely gone after this season. Since the team is not competitive except in the most rose-colored-glasses viewpoint, why not get something for him that can help build for the future?

Last edited 10 months ago by Fansince1971
RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago

new fun Shohei fact – he now has more career bWAR than GA. And he’ll pass Erstad by the end of July.

By he end of the year at current rates he will be 6th in franchise bWAR.

only Trout, Ryan, Fregosi, Salmon, Fregosi would be ahead if he gets Downing which is about 7 bWAR ahead

Guest
10 months ago

If you are Perry, and you have accepted the fact that you are losing Ohtani to a mid-season trade, it must be fun sifting through all of the offers seeing what you could get for him.

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
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If you are Perry, and you have accepted the fact that you never could or never would trade Ohtani-San, it must be fun sifting through all of the offers seeing what you could have gotten for him.

2002heaven
Super Member
10 months ago

If the Angels are floundering and out of WC contention by the final weekend of this month, then they need to be sellers.
Some names that I would move……….Carlos Estevez, Tyler Anderson, Patrick Sandoval, Luis Rengifo, and Mickey Moniak. Do better than Tucker Davidson this time Perry.


BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

I’d prefer to hold onto Moniak, for sure.

Also, I wouldn’t want to sell low on Sandoval. He’ll probably never be a true #2 starter like most assumed, but I think he’s better than what he’s shown this year.

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Agree.

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

trade Moniak makes 10000% no sense at all.

FungoAle
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

If Moniak stays as platoon OF, you need to consider it

BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He’s young, athletic and cost controlled. Even IF he’s a platoon player, he’ll contribute for the next few years at low cost. Perhaps he can learn a little 1B like Renfroe….

FungoAle
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

He is better than Marsh, drives the ball vs slap at it. K about the same. But unlike last year with Marsha, I don’t expect Perry to trade Moniak but platoon players just feel, sub-optimum to the end goal.

BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

If he could hover around .250 vs lefties, he would be an everyday player and borderline All-Star caliber OF, but yes, being a platoon player is sub-optimal.

Still, he’s worthy of a roster spot even as a platoon player because he can play and you’re right about his ability to drive the ball.

Kinda reminds me of Andy Van Slyke from back in the day.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

That’s a lot you are asking from him lol

Kiyotchan
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Jayman28

If you have time away from CtPG and PS5, here is another book that I suggest.

Bushido: The Soul of Japan, which was first published in early 1900s and became an International bestseller in its day, has just been republished as part of Penguin’s Greatest Ideas series. (Disclaimer: No $ from Penguin)

The author, Nitobe, aimed to show the outside world that Japan had a value system that was similar to Christian morality. The allure of Bushido as a moral code even caught the attention of then US President Theodore Roosevelt, who was a keen Judo practitioner.

Nitobe’s book made Japanese believe that they were inheritors of superior values and that they had a claim to right the wrong. It is Japanese tradition that an individual dedicates his or her life for the good of larger entity, be it family, organization (in Shohei’s case, Angels) or nation. That is the reason why in Japan, family name comes first before his or her given name, signifying more importance placed on family.

That is the reason why, my friend, I am more than certain that Sho will fulfill his contractural obligation as Angel for the remainder of season. As you frequently posted, Arte will not trade Sho, and Sho will not ask for trade before deadline.

BTW, thank you for your contribution to Sony.

P.S. Have you googled 坂本龍馬&新撰組 were real historical figures that I learned in Japanese history class in middle school, and Mr. Kaishu Katsu with Kanrinmaru would be considered Japanese equivalent of Thomas Jefferson and Mayflower. Not concoction of Jason Connell.

P.P.S. I thought you might like to know that Rangers fans are thinking that they will be out of contention by middle of August. Some of them accurately predicted that there would be 3 WC spots would come from AL East. It will be either Mariners or Asstros from AL West in my humble opinion.

Last edited 10 months ago by Kiyotchan
RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Shohei will re-sign –

you watch this guy for six years – no way he’ll go chasing $$ and bright lights.

Rendon when he signed pointed the difference between LA and OC.

chasing winners? He’s not Kevin Durant either. Angels are ohana.

Last edited 10 months ago by RexFregosi
Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

You’ve been saying and guaranteeing this since January. I’m sorry but I think it’s just wishful thinking. Why did he reject the team’s contract ovations if this is accurate?

BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I think the more interesting conversation is SHOULD the Angels allocate 60 million a year to one player?

As great as Shohei is, he also turns 30 next year.

I love the dude, but the Shohei is the type of player a winning franchise should pay when the team has a solid & proven foundation in place.

The Angels have some nice emerging young talent, but many of the veterans have not performed to expectation: Rendon, Renfroe, Trout, Ward, Fletcher, Rengifo,
Walsh and Sandoval are all guilty here.

I don’t see Renfroe, Fletcher & Walsh on the squad next season, heck, they may not last this season.

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Absolutely agree. And would add that $60 million would be on top of the $80mil committed to Trout and Rendon

2002heaven
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Jayman28

Not all of them.
But they should consider the best return they can get (Sandoval, Estevez, and Tyler Anderson.).

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

No thanks on moving Moniak. I’d trade Ward before even thinking about trading Moniak.

Angels22
Trusted Member
10 months ago

Too lazy to read all the comments, but I think the best comment I saw is to trade Estevez. Estevez must be packaged with Rendon, so we can get rid of his contract. He has huge value as a lockdown closer for a playoff team, so he is trade candidate one. Ohtani should be trade candidate 2 for some major league ready players that are controllable and higher level prospects. Won’t be the best, but better than waiting to the end of the season and get no return. Trout is trade candidate 3, so we can get rid of his contract.Just need to make sure trout will ok the trade. I would assume he wants to win, so why wouldn’t he accept. Then Renfroe and Moore could also be traded for something decent. Angels will be free of all the large contracts.

2002heaven
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Nobody want’s Rendon and you couldn’t give him away either.

DowningDude
Legend
10 months ago

Send your $150 therapy checks to CtPG brass.

Man – what a sad donkey thread.

Excuse me – I gotta take a 🌈 dump. Brrt 🌈

FungoAle
Super Member
10 months ago

Same ol same ol….Ttrade Ohtani, trade everyone, fire Arte…blow it up. Being only one game under .500, it is not bad enough to give up.. In May everyone said the same thing but the the Angels got hot and jumped into the wild card slot. Since a fire sale won’t happen, need to make improvements.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Making improvements aren’t happening either

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Jayman28

Health will.

Neto, O’Hoppe, Rendon, Moore, Trout it’s a different team n August

FungoAle
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Can certainly bolster the rotation. There will be sellers. Perry needs to stay on his toes with his radar on.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Some more copium there Rex?

Angelstan
Trusted Member
10 months ago

Like last year during the collapse, the Angels look dead. They aren’t even competitive in most games. They have become perhaps one of the bottom 3 clubs in the league in terms of how they are playing now. Last year, I speculated there had to be behind-the-scenes issues. Later, the stories came out about Perry’s battle with Maddon and the overall unrest. I wonder what the issues are this time. Something is plainly wrong. Another year of underachievement and being out of the hunt by the all-star break. It’s quite sad.

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Tough for me to blame Nevin for this due to injuries but he’s got to do better.

Dinkycreek
Member
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Not tough to blame Nevin for the team lacking motivation. This is his main job. Keep the team motivated to perform to their capabilities. This team has not even before the injuries.

FungoAle
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Agree. Phil has the players back and they like playing for him, that is great. But he does not appear to be cerebral with his lineups. Some of this is due to injuries but putting square pegs in round holes will drag the defense down. You also cannot blame Nevin that his catchers decided to regress to their normal productivity. His bullpen moves are dictated by the FO.

Both he and Perry will be gone with a sub-.500 record.

BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I hope Perry is retained. I like many of his move this offseason.

Our biggest issue after the injuries is poor performance by numerous veterans.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
10 months ago

At this point of time, even us optimist fans can throw in the towel. When even the back-ups to the back-ups are getting injured the team is cooked, little lobsters hitting the boiling water, screaming is useless.

Yes trade Ohtani, but make the Dodgers take Trout too, my love affair is over. What a player he could have been. Bring in the yuits.

The players on the Angels let the fans down BIG – TIME. They can’t pitch, they can’t hit, they can’t run, these players are no fun. At least the no names had us over .500 up until September. Just trade all who are 27 years old for yuits and start over. Tear it down, top to bottom, sell, sell, sell. This team is Jinxed, especially with constant injuries. Sell and trade even the vendors, the Front Office, and get a new attitude. I am over this team, it is full of individuals, not a real team. Get rid of the manager, bring in someone in their early 30’s who is not going to put up with shitty attitudes, losing games don’t matter people. “Scheduled Days Off”, We need a 6-man staff why? Because my arm might fall off – Holy Jeez.

Sell Arte, 25 Billion is not enough! Get lost and return to Arizona.

GPB is over this losing organization, sell everything including pictures of Autry. If it ain’t nailed down-sell it . Start Anew, rebuild it, even sell the Doomers-send them to other teams, they won’t be able to handle a rebuild.

This team had Trout in his prime and couldn’t win. Now Ohtani in his prime and can’t win.
Free Ohtani. I’m done. Enjoy your Sunday.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago

One thing I hated about Jerry Colangelo (or however you spell his last name) is that he refused to let Arte buy the Diamondbacks from him when he had the money because he was too greedy and wanted even more money. This caused Arte to buy the Angels and here we are..

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago

Here’s a question for all of you folks who are hanging on to the hope that this team might rally.

Angels have 16 games before the trade deadline. If the team goes 4-12 or something like that and is around 10 games under .500 at the trade deadline- what would you do? What would your plan for the future be? What would you do at the deadline to get there?

2GA2Join
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It appears to me that all the people who were jumping all over me for daring to say we should trade Ohtani 2 weeks ago, are not on here hardly at all right now. So you may not see a reply.
The “unicorn farters” have fled the pastures and run into the hills…

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I personally would trade Ohtani, Ward, Estevez and Renfroe and get as many young players as possible.

By the way, per the Trade Simulator Mike Trout now has -4.4 value. There was a time prior to his huge contract when his trade value was over 100. Even with that contract it’s been hovering around 20 It’s a very sad day when Trout is essentially valueless in trade.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I am afraid no MLB teams would trade for Ward or Renfroe; they are not tradable based on how they did thus far. Estevez will attract teams like NYYankees, Red Sux, Blue Jays, Rays, Asstros, Mariners and Rangers. Again the question is what would Angels get for him; losing a decent closer means that Angels need to trade for one or develop one. I would probably hang onto Estevez at least for another season.

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

With the Angels luck, Estevez will be mediocre next year. Trade him while he has good value.

Prior to this season I was suggesting trading Ward because his trade value was peaking (it was around 50 on the trade simulator). Most of the folks on this site thought I was crazy even after I pointed out he had just had a career year and was unlikely to repeat it. I got skewered here – but now Ward’s trade value is at 16.

Same with Walsh – I thought he was eminently tradable after his big season which came out of nowhere- again folks on this site skewered me. At the time his trade value was in the mid-40s. Now it’s zero.

Sometimes you have to strike when value and leverage are highest. That’s where we are with Estevez who has never in his career been this good. To count on that to continue next year is wishful thinking. I would trade him while his value is high.

2GA2Join
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Agree. I’ve been suggesting Ohtani, Estevez and Moore as top trade candidates.
There might be more, but I think O’Hoppe, Neto, Detmers, and Moniak are the only players I lean towards declaring untouchable, for now.

FungoAle
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Ward is a perfect buy low candidate but Angels need Ward.

DaveChalk
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

What he said. Trade Ohtani to Dodgers. Trade whoever is not home grown for picks. There is no real present. Trout and Rendon are not a base this team can be competitive with so why not be realistic and push horizon out a few years. Spoiler alert – we won’t do it. Lol

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

They’re all too busy huffing the copium.

BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Jayman28

So brave & strong.

You doomers are basically Navy Seals in your badassery !!!!

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

More like realism, while you guys are on copium

Kiyotchan
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I am no longer hopeful that Angels would reach the playoffs, which actually lightens my stress level while watching Angels games. As BannedinLA indicated, it is just a baseball game/entertainment. I will continue to enjoy watching Angels games for the remainder of the season, though.

From genuine Angels fan perspective, the twitter poll by Sammy indicates what the team should do regarding whether to trade Shohei before deadline.
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1676833135374532608
In your scenario, 80% of the people think that Angels should trade Ohtani before deadline.

Another question should be what would be the minimum that Angels would agree to trade. Would someone like Corbin Carroll/Elly De La Cruz be the minimum since Angels could use 3B or OF? In that case, Angels should wait till as late as August 1 and as close as possible to 6 pm EST till they have all the offers from multiple teams and decide. If they cannot get MLB ready 3B or OF, they should consider at least 2 MLB ready pitchers such as Blake Snell plus Josh Hader or Bobby Miller plus Emmet Sheehan. Both Padres and Doyers are really interested in Shohei; they would love to have the first chance to appeal to Sho during short rental period as prolonged recruiting opportunity.

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I still think the Angels could get value in trade for Ohtani. He makes any contender a favorite to win the WS and likely increases the chances of signing him in the offseason. So there will be buyers.

It’s a shame they did not trade him last trade deadline when he would have realized a coup of young talent but I think Arte was focused on the added value that having Ohtani meant to what he could ask for his baseball team.

If we view Arte’s decision making as trying to maximize the sale value of his franchise – would adding another enormous contract- even for a player the caliber of Ohtani – increase the sale value of his club or would a new owner prefer a lower payroll and a clean slate with more young (and inexpensive) talent.

steelgolf
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Didn’t The Dodgers covet Rengifo until Arte quashed the deal? See if they are still interested in him, let them deal with his boneheaded baseball plays.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I started the season with hope, but the hope faded as the injures started and key players underperformed. 

I’ve been advocating giving Ohtani the franchise’s best contract offer, and if he declines – do a Teixeira and trade him. This should have been done before the start of the 2022 season, however Arte again screwed the pooch with his public impression of wanting to sell the franchise.

The fact remains this has been a disaster of ownership’s own making. The continuous self-inflicted wounds by the franchise “brain trust” borders on the comedic at this point.

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago

Agreed. And there is no self-realization. I think Arte looks in the mirror everyday and thinks he is doing great and that Carpino, Kuhl and Molly frickin’ Jolly know what they are doing running a baseball team.

These folks all need to go. There is always the risk of a worse Org but I think it’s worth that chance.

This season was over when Arte did not sell.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Since 2012, he’s ran it like a Marketing Agency instead of like a Baseball Organization

BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I do fall into the optimist camp. Primarily because this is entertainment and should be viewed as such. The doomers
are… whatever, I’ll leave it at that.

Shohei – I’ve said little because the club has said repeatedly that they won’t trade him, but to answer your question (10 games under .500 at the deadline):

I would trade Ohtani in that scenario, get whatever prospects can be had. It’s a logical approach.

We’ll get minimal returns on Renfroe, but his contract is expiring so we might as well.

I’d hold onto Ward as the return is almost nil and at worst, he is a really good 4th OF. He serves a valuable function.

Trout is untradeable unless the Angels are willing to eat 50% of the money, which I don’t see happening in either direction, but I’d make a call to Philly or NYC and see if they were interested. Though I see this as less likely than an Ohtani trade because Trout is possibly washed.

Pair the money saved in not re-signing Ohtani by signing Brandon Drury & Mike Moore type free agents + the core of emerging young players like O’Hoppe, Neto, Detmers, Bachman, Soriano, Adell (?) etc. would make for a competitive AND balanced squad.

Last edited 10 months ago by BannedInLA
Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

This is a very rational approach. I like it. I think the team keeps Trout for multiple reasons- primarily (as you point out) because he is untradable for anything of value without eating a bunch of his salary. He is also still arguably a draw and without Ohtani would be the face of the Org.

As for optimism- I was leading the charge most of my life. Heck – I was the guy who believed Ramon Ortiz would be a 20 game winner. But there is a time where the rose colored glasses need to be put away and replaced with reality specs. There is something very wrong with a team which consistently underperforms and is ‘unlucky’ season after season. A team that has two generational talent MVPs and cannot compete. I believe it’s the Organization- from the minor leagues to strength and conditioning to scouting to player development and health and nutrition.

So from my perspective a dismantling is a positive since it would likely signal that Arte and his band of marketing-first stooges is truly ‘out’. I would love to root for a team of young talent supplemented by players like Drury and Moore as you suggested. I would like to see the minor league system be among the finest providing yearly depth along with the occasional All-Star.

I’m in for the long haul and don’t need a bunch of fireworks to keep my interest. I’m not a fair weather fan like so many at Angel Stadium who are there only to post on their Instagram account that they saw Ohtani.

I want a real baseball org like the Cardinals that put good, interesting and well balanced baseball teams together year after year after year.

Last edited 10 months ago by Fansince1971
BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I agree with all of this frankly.

My optimism this season was predicated on the fact that I believed the talent on the roster was good enough to compete for a playoff spot and once you’re in, you’ve
got a shot at winning it all – the whole lightening in a bottle thing – particularly with Shohei Ohtani on the roster.

Injuries, poor play and a general malaise have caused this team to nosedive over the past 3 weeks and unless they start a winning streak immediately after the break, they might as well break it up.

Obviously I hope they go on a streak because life is short and most of the league seems beatable IMHO, but failing that, it’s probably better if they continue to spiral and force a tear down than to play .500 ball and do nothing.

Dinkycreek
Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I think the team will be 10 games under .500 by Aug. 1. I sincerely hope I am completely wrong but see nothing in the future to change my opinion.

Fansince1971
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10 months ago

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10 months ago
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10 months ago
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MikeSalmon
Super Member
10 months ago

Folks from Misuzawa, where Ohtani played from age 8 to 14, on Shohei, on the nitoryu (“two-sword”) style of Ohtani and how he’s adopted the Western “power” style since then.

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Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago

Can I just say, again, how happy I did not drop approximately $30,000+ for four season tickets and parking?!

Last edited 10 months ago by Fansince1971
Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I haven’t been to a game since 2018, and I bet the stadium has aged more and more

DowningDude
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Jayman28

Sure – it has aged 5 years. Your point?

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Longer than that, i toured the clubhouse in 2013 and it looked old and run down

DowningDude
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yikes. That’s a lot of coin. I’ve kept it under $500 this year – mostly only attending the ShoheinlyFans-tahni games.

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

When you buy four good seats for 83 games that’s 332 tickets. Cost was around $100 per ticket…..and then the two parking passes as well!!

With that kind of investment I found it funny that the team charged me an extra $100 for printed tickets.

When I first started buying those seats, they were $14. So an entire season for 4 tickets with parking was like $4,500.

Last edited 10 months ago by Fansince1971
DowningDude
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yesu Kristo!

My grandparents box seats in aisle 29 had a face value of $5 back in the late 70s/early 80s

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I remember that. My father had season tickets before me that was about the price per ticket. By the time I had enough extra cash to consider season tickets myself (mid 90’s), the price of gone up to a whole $14 😂

Angelz4ever
Super Member
10 months ago

Whelp……when are the Special Olympics airing?

steelgolf
Super Member
10 months ago

2016 sure has been a long year, and we are just heading into winter.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
10 months ago

Can’t win when Trout and Rendon go hitless.

James
Trusted Member
10 months ago

Probably be a RenDone double play or 2 and a couple Trout strikeouts if we are being honest.

jcstein
Trusted Member
10 months ago

I was at the game tonight, and I am so glad I got to see Ohtani’s final game as an Angel

WallyChuckChili
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

Not till August 1st

jcstein
Trusted Member
10 months ago

The deadline is the 1st, but i don’t see any reason the Angels would wait given the injuries and way that they’re playing

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

Arte will back track on it which I will respect him for that he does, and if he doesn’t, then he just wants wants Sho to suffer because he makes money off him and is too stubborn to take the L. And when he plays for a contending team, he’s going to be in a happier place.

And then with the Angels, the titanic music will intensify.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

yawn….thanks Nostradumbus

jcstein
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

You’re welcome, lil guy

Fansince1971
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10 months ago

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DowningDude
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

These make the losses more bearable. Thanks! 🤣

max
Trusted Member
max
10 months ago

Damn, the conundrum the Halos find themselves in. I 100 percent guarantee that they will do the exact, opposite, incorrect thing regarding Ohtani and the rest of the season, because? trA…la la la la la la

James
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  max

It’s really damn painful to watch after what’s unfolded the previous few seasons. it’s very easy to see what’s coming next and it doesn’t look promising. I will not waste anyone’s time with all the reasons but it’s obvious.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  max

They want to watch Shohei suffer, fans and management alike because muh “making money off marketing from him like we’re some sort of pimp”.

DowningDude
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Jayman28

Broken record