The Only Person We Have to Blame Is Ourselves in 3-1 Snoozer

I’ve been dieting for the last month. I cut my carbs and watched my calories and it was going great. Then while forcing myself through another consecutive loss, it occurred to me that I should probably drastically cut my sodium intake too or my high blood pressure will take me out in the middle of one of these postgames. It’s only getting worse too. The pressure is on with Ohtani’s looming free agency and the Angels have now lost 8 of their last 11 while on the cusp of their first postseason berth in nigh a decade.

I didn’t have to be in this situation though. Just as Tyler Anderson did tonight, I could have walked off in the middle of all of this (with no runs allowed, mind you) and left this responsibility and heartache and, most importantly, major L for some other fan, not unlike Sam Bachman did tonight. And you could have too!

But it’s not enough that we asked for this bloated, disgusting contract. We, like the Angels when they signed Rendon (who had a solo homer tonight but also flubbed a throw to first which was instrumental in the loss), thought we were making the right decision at the time, and had opportunities to fix things. Instead, we ignored the opt-outs and we’re going to be suffering in 2024 for having done so.

I could keep going with these analogies to convey what happened, but frankly? It’s just not worth it. Maybe I’ll have more energy when we eat a fat sweep tomorrow.

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Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago

https://twitter.com/LAAngelsPR/status/1675566070286143488
And there you have it. TJS shoulder amputation scheduled for the All Star break.

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
9 months ago

Do people write fan posts anymore like we used to on HH? Thinking of writing out what the rebuild looks like next season .

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

We publish them when someone writes one.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

 😆 

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

Not good for my weak stomach, but anticipating 1-0 win with perfect defense with at least 2 super plays which will be placed in Top 10 of the certain east coast cable company whose name I have repeatedly sworn not to utter on this site.
https://twitter.com/RhettBollinger/status/1675561875638198272
Go Angels, end that losing streak today!

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Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

It is 3:36 AM in Tokyo. Japanese newspaper announced today’s Angels lineup.
1(右)モニアック
2(中)トラウト
3(指)大谷翔平
4(三)レンドン
5(一)ムスタカス
6(左)ウォード
7(捕)サイス
8(二)エスコバー
9(遊)フレッチャー
投 デトマーズ

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

In case you are curious and may be thinking about naming your next son, Ohtani Shohei (Japanese always put family name first) the first Chinese character means ‘Big’ or “Great’, second refers to “Valley”. Sho denotes ‘flying upward to success’ while Hei means ‘peace’.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

That certain east coast cable company whose name I have promised with utmost disdain not to mention at this site had the gall to exclude a certain Japanese name from the nominees of Best Male Athlete

Lionel Messi
Aaron Judge
Patrick Mahomes
Nicola Jokic

max
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max
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Was called EaStsPiN for a while. And Judge’s name on the list is evidence why.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

and then they bias the results. Here’s how they present the list

  • Nikola Jokic, Denver Nuggets
  • Aaron Judge, New York Yankees – 2022 AL MVP
  • Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs
  • Lionel Messi, Argentina/PSG

Three guys with their teams, one guy with “2022 AL MVP” added.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

From fair point of view, they also have Best MLB Player category, with which all of us know who is going to win. Perhaps it is their gentle gesture that Judge would win at least one.

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Not an accident. They knew if they included him he would have to win, therefore it was easier to leave him off the list … I suspect they have either Messi or Mahomes tagged for the prize.

If Shohei manages to lead MLB in strikeouts AND HR’s they won’t have any choice next year — he’ll HAVE to win the award.

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CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
9 months ago

Sadly, Halos continue to find ways to lose and need a shake up. At game last night, so much energy and fanfare for Ohtani. Everything is about him currently and rightfully so. Makes me wonder what is this stadium going to be like if he leaves? The hype, jerseys, Japanese fans, all of it gone. Predicting major rebuild next year if that happens and they tank to end this season. Trout is stuck, Redon still a cancer, and the veterans brought in won’t be resigned or get traded for youth. A dark but possible future for Halo fans if Ohtani takes off.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
9 months ago

Maybe time to platoon Rendon/Moose at 1st and let Escobar play 3rd. Then Rendon doesn’t have to throw the ball any more.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Another idea. I anticipate that St. Louis will be a seller soon and that Paul Goldschmidt may become available. He is 35 years old and has two more years of $26MM with St. Louis, eligible for FA in 2025. Perry gotta be thinking about trading for him, assuming he has green signal from Arte for going over CBT, currently $4.17M below according to SporTrac.

Another question is what it would take from Angels for Cardinals to say yes. Someone mentioned a combination of Jo Adell and Edgar Quero. Is that too much for aging 1st baseman?

FungoAle
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Goldschmidt is obviously better than what we have but he is 35 and would be expensive unless a salary dump. I’d be looking for bats with high contact rates, less about home runs.

Angels should be more focused on a solid no. 2-3 starter along with Ohtani and Detmers.

Last edited 9 months ago by FungoAle
Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Yes, Minasian is probably looking for one (or two) SPs and/or one or two bullpen pieces, For example, Cubs would make Stroman available as soon as they become a seller, and same thing with Cease and Giolito of White Sox. It will depend on when these teams lose enough to decide to become sellers.

Urshela was a huge loss as consistent, contact hitter. To me, he was the best to look for opposite side grounder hit out of all Angels hitters. If we can find someone like that inexpensively, that would be timely. Assuming that it is unlikely we will get ‘good bat Walsh’ back and Goldschmidt may be the second big name being available as soon as next week, after failing to secure Aroldis Chapman, Minasian would recruit the 1B’s service

JackFrost
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Agree. A solid no. 2 starter should be our top priority right now — not a 35 yr old Goldschmidt who reached his peak last season… It will likely be a slow hike down the mountain for him from here on out …

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Why?

FungoAle
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Moose at 1st for 3 weeks and let’s see what has. No platoon. I like Escobar at 3rd but Angel brass will not replace Rendon, yet.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

Sammy at least is equipped with the audacity of asking what many of us were observing.
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1675381013856534530
Angels are not changing their strategy of swinging at the first pitch aggressively. I wish they could alter the strategy depending on who they are facing that particular day. I hope baseballs miraculously find the barrel of Angels bats today.

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Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

Did Rendon come back too soon?https://twitter.com/Sarah_IsabelVee/status/1675384897169653765

I don’t know if he should have revealed that he still had pain. Sounds like lame excuse.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Rick Souddress

Calling it a lame excuse is overly emotional on my part. I should not have said that. Especially when I am promoting positiveness. I should have left at ‘I don’t know If he should have revealed that he still had pain.’

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Twebur
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Rick Souddress

we frequently ask for transparency from our medical staff and players. 

I do not follow the Dodgers as closely as I do the Angels. I follow them close enough to see they do NOT have the same issues the Angels have in navigating injuries. The Dodgers transparency with injuries most times seem to honest, decisive, accurate and fast. The Angels are lacking in this. It’s either by design (which makes no sense to anyone but to them). Or, it’s incompetence, presumably due to cheapness from Arte (A lesser quantity of care) and will never be a priority. This isn’t a new problem, this is a trAdition.



clover_black
Super Member
9 months ago

who can save us from mike trout?

bigviz
Member
9 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

He’s said himself in past slumps- it’s his front foot timing. For half a season he’s putting it down late and can’t catch up to 95+. No adjustments anywhere. None.

Twebur
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

Who can save me from my “Doyers Fan” family and friends?!?!?!

The uptick in texts about M.Out and his decline are now full of conspiracy.
Most don’t know each other mind you.

-One friend is claiming Trout is jealous of Shohei and is tanking in hope he leaves in FA after another season of failure.

-The other is basically claiming the same Shohei theory, plus Trout wants out too. Will ask to be traded at seasons end. Both claim several Reddit posts and others as a source.

At this point, these are valid opinions? It’s the Angels, sure why not. Have a few more months left to see if they are right.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I will give it a shot. Recent Foul Territory (6/30) podcast featured Trout opining on Shohei’s chance of remaining an Angel. He pretty much said that the only thing he or other teammates can do is to win as many games as they can to convince him to stay. He is aware that one of the reasons why Shohei chose Angels is the future HOF. (I remember Shohei quipping, when asked why he chose 17 for back number, ‘Someone else had already taken 27.’). Do you recall how marveled Trout was when Shohei hit that 497ft bomb? He may be in awe with Shohei’s power, but not jealous.

I don’t know the pre-Shohei version of Trout, but he seems dedicated and loyal to the Angels. I would be shocked if he asked to be traded.

frosse
Member
9 months ago

This is about as average a team as it gets:

April record: 15-14
May: 15-13
June: 14-13

Without Ohtani, this team is fighting with Oakland for last place.
Don’t worry, be happy!

Guest
9 months ago

Luis admires the bombs bursting in air.

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Jayman28
Trusted Member
9 months ago

I guess this team really doesn’t want Ohtani to go to the playoffs. Holding him hostage must have been so worth it…

halofansince1978
Super Member
9 months ago

Sam Bachman…another young inexperienced pitcher who has no business being in the Major Leagues.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

Reviewing the fateful 6th inning, I cannot really blame Bachman entirely for Angel’s loss. Yes, if he had few more years of MLB under his belt, he may not have hit by pitch the following DBacks hitter (Moreno) after allowing a single, which was a well located pitch, but gotta tip your cap to Rivera. But the grounder to Fletch, who attempted to catch but the ball got deflected off his glove with the DBacks tying the score, and the horrific Rendon’s error resulting in 2-1 in DBacks favor pretty much sealed the deal. Sam looked like he just ran a marathon coming off the mound.

Again lots of should’ves and could’ves, but I will take a positive point of view that BTO learned a valuable lesson from this high leverage situation and will use this experience to become a legit MLB pitcher.

BTW, I am quite impressed with DBacks despite their youth. They are legit #2 NL team after Braves.

jcstein
Trusted Member
9 months ago

Bachman is 91% better than league average. It’s hard to win ballgames without scoring more than 4 runs in a game.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago

So what youre saying is we should have signed more seasoned bullpen veterans like Poup and Tepera?

We need to develop our own young arms to build a deep bullpen and considering the relatively barren farm system that Arte and his henchmen have built over seen for the last 13+ years there will be growing pains. But I will take those in a heart beat if the system keeps improving as it would appear to be.

2GA2Join
Super Member
9 months ago

Ever since I left the country last Thursday, the team has spiraled. I guess I need to own it and apologize to all. 😀
I won’t return for 2 more weeks, so buckle up.

2GA2Join
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Each day I wake up in my hotel, turn on my wifi, and go to this website, and see whatever sarcastic headline has been used for the post-game, and that tells me what I need to know.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
9 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

The revamped lineup due to injuries isn’t working. The bullpen wasn’t good enough to start and the young guys are faltering. The starting pitching isn’t good enough. 2-4 in last 6 at home against White Sox and D’Backs. 1-2 in Colorado against a bad team.

I keep hoping things will change. If they are going to win, Detmers and Ohtani give them them best chance if they pitch as they have. But there is no confidence even with them on the mound. This team needs major trades to bring upgrades in talent.

Even the Cowboys with Jerry Jones have made the playoffs occasionally.

red floyd
Legend
9 months ago

All I want to know is who is #28 and what has he done with the REAL Loup?

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Since three been no new reporting for awhile, Matt Moore must have died from his injury and his spirit has now taken over the Poupster?

Thats all I got.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I heard on radio at pregame that Moore will be throwing bullpen session on Tuesday. Sounds like his return will not happen until after ASG.

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Eric_in_Portland
Legend
9 months ago

Ebb and flow of the season. If we’re any good we’ll start a winning streak. If we’re not then August 1st will be “interesting”

Fansince1971
Legend
9 months ago

Yep – this month will be interesting for sure. It’s not going to be easy. The schedule for July includes:

Diamondbacks (1)
Padres (3)
Dodgers (2)
Houston (3)
Yankees (3)
Pirates (3)
Tigers (3)
Toronto (3)
Atlanta (1)

All of these teams are going to be tough with the much improved Tigers and Pirates. Padres have underperformed but are stacked with talent.

22 games and I think they are most likely looking at 10-12 to 12-10.

Success would be 14-8. Failure 8-14. If the former, I expect the Angels to be buyers, if the latter, sellers.

They have to go 10-12 to be over .500 at the end of August. Doable but not necessarily easy.

Last edited 9 months ago by Fansince1971
GrandpaBaseball
Legend
9 months ago

Day the started well, yes indeedy, very well. Went to my nieces wedding, down in Dana Point, started late as the prior wedding went extra innings – then the blue skies disappeared for June Gloom in July, moved on to San Juan Capistrano, the large dining room that holds a hundred was booked for 3pm, but the “Wedding Planner”, a business that the Donut Nazi (A women) had screwed up and made the reservation for 5pm. Food was good, everyone enjoyed the open bar, and entertainment provided by 6 fashion models, the wedding party maids of honor and bride. The drive home a nightmare. I had horrible reception with KLAA all the way, 5fwy-55 fwy, 91/215, 10fwy, Highway 38. get home, turn on the computer, and not only did I have a bad attitude because nobody knows how to read “pullout”. they get a kick out of leading the slow parade while looking in the rearview mirror and telling the kids, “Look out the rear window, daddy is the leader into the unknown” 😀 , Fing idiots. They even pass speed limit signs posting 55MPH at 35! Hold on honey, at this speed my hair is on fire.

Rick I feel your pain, but now everybody is in an exclusive club of wanting Rendone when he signed. Since he arrived I was on the inside looking out because so many thought that I was crazy not wanting him and not at all impressed in his 2020, which is his highlight year. Signing anyone to a huge FA contract after a career year is just flat out, 100%, certifiable dumb. Paying him for 7 years for more than Trout, ludicrous. I even had a poster here ask me please do not call him Rendone. I complied, but now have reverted.

But is all to be blamed on PTP? How about Arte? Nevin? Well, some to all of ’em. But it is the players who can’t break out. This starting staff is better than the results, and by far. The lineups are not producing with getting on base, hitting the ball for hits and just accepting faith when striking out. Waiting for the HR is what we see, just stupid. Hitting a HR 493 ft is certainly impressive by it’s self, but not when you are losing.

The errors both physical and mental just are plying up and after each game mumbles makes excuses.

The Bullpen has 4 very good pitchers and then the names are interchangeable, Loup, Tepera, Herget, Wantz, you get the picture. Does anybody know what time it is? It’s time to win, it’s pretty simple really, you either want the Brass Ring or you don’t. You don’t face Koufax-Randy-Maddux-Kershaw every night. Upper cut, launch angle, MPH out of the park is all dip poop. Look at the results, is anybody see something that I don’t or can’t see? There is a 2B in Miami who knows how to hit, or Daunte’s kid, he knows how to hit. In 2012 and ’13 Trout knew how to hit, since then he looks for a walk. Horse Pucky! Hit the ball, good things happen.

I’m done ranting tonight, hey thanks for reading this, it’s part frustration, part anger, all from the heart.

PS, Al Davis had it right 30 years ago, Just Win Baby!

Kiyotchan
Super Member
9 months ago

Hitting a HR 493 ft is certainly impressive by it’s self, but not when you are losing.

In my humble opinion, that is exactly what Shohei is thinking. It is easy to point out many negatives that current Angles have displayed day in and day out the past 2 weeks, and it is soul consoling to vent, but this morning, I am going to take a different approach. I will share some info on Scott McGough, who came in the 9th inning to close for DBacks.

Japanese newspaper featured him because he previously pitched for Yakult Swallows from 2018 to last season. He was interviewed yesterday and thanked his former Japanese team pitching coaches for teaching him splitters and resurrecting his baseball career. He jokingly thanked Baseball God that the sharp liner (99.6MPH) by Shohei found the glove of 1B Christian Walker. Like Tyler Anderson, McGough bent but did not break.

There have been quite a few previously struggled MLB pitchers who were DFA’d from their team and decided to go to either Japan or Korea, retooled themselves and returned as legit MLB level pitchers. (Mikolas of St. Louis, Chris Martin of Red Sox, Nick Martinez of Padres to name a few.). Should Angels send Jose Suarez to Japan for repair?

Last edited 9 months ago by Kiyotchan
Twebur
Legend
9 months ago

3-11 on Saturday
1-6 against the NL West

Cowboy26
Legend
9 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

a 2-5 record while averaging a whopping 3.43 runs per game since the iconic super blow out.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
9 months ago

One man Offense. The rest of the team Sucked!
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Fansince1971
Legend
9 months ago

Grinning like a cat burglar.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
9 months ago

The irrational exuberance he exudes is only exceeded by his extreme douchiness. When it’s done he will have given Chris Davis a run for the worst contact in MLB history

steelgolf
Super Member
9 months ago

Lackluster, boring, next level suck .

Fansince1971
Legend
9 months ago

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Lots of shit!