LA Angels Monday News Crash:

Logan O’Hoppe has a torn labrum in his non-throwing shoulder that will require surgery. He will miss 4-6 months. Of course, this will add to the need for creativity in Angels roster moves. The Angels hit three homers in a row yesterday. Just another day at the ball park. Mean while Shohei’s earned run average is just 0.64.

The Giants activated Joc Pederson back off the injured list. The Cardinals activated Paul DeJong. Tony Gonsolin should be back soon as well.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Eric_in_Portland
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1 year ago

a note to everybody: I hope you know that when I talk about “the pace we’re on” I’m joking. ‘Cause it doesn’t work like that. I just do it for fun. I know it’s silly….but fun.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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ERR MAH GIRD! YEWW TALK PACE HURR PEE CAHN GIT DURR ROPE! TEA SAUCE! STOOPID! GIT DURR ROPE!

DowningDude
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1 year ago

Jokes not allowed around here. 🤣

I for one LOVE the on pace for xx wins stuff. Keep it up man – damn the doomers!

Last edited 1 year ago by DowningDude
2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago

May Day!! May Day!! May Day!!
Begins this weekend Brewers, Cardinals, Rangers, Astros, Guardians, Twins, Marlins 2023 version not 2021 and 2022, Orioles not the 2021 version that lost 110 games and has a better catcher than us (Adley Rutschman). The ChiSox who have a better SS and just need a real GM (GPD should go there…..big market, bigger budget,).
All of those teams sans the ChiSox can catch and throw the ball better than us!!
Enjoy this last week of April 😢  😥  💪  💪  💪 

Last edited 1 year ago by 2002heaven
DowningDude
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1 year ago

“baseball doesn’t work that way…
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Fletcher tweet, JackFrost-approved.

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Yep. Anything less than 3 of 4 would unfortunately be considered a loss. But the A’s are always tough against the Angels.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

The only fan article I (almost) wrote was premised on a showing the Angels were as good against teams above .500 as the Astros and the reason the Angels couldn’t make the playoffs is because of their inability to capitalize when playing weaker teams. A series loss to a weak A’s team was the inspiration for the article and indeed, the research showed that the A’s won a greater share of games against the Angels then they did against the Astros and wild card contenders.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Yep.

Fletcher indeed understands how baseball works.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I’m am proud of CtPG today. I’m bummed about O’Hoppe. I missed what ever got said about it on Sat. But I think I’ve only seen one guy drop his “This is someone’s fault!” comment thus far. That’s a pretty commendable lack of bitch energy given how big a bummer it is for O’Hoppe to get hurt.

My totally unsubstantiated guess is that they are trying to figure out where they stand with Stassi and then will attempt to get some catching help accordingly. At the same time they’ll give Thaiss the chance to earn a job for a few days.

No. It’s not a good idea to bring Querro up. That would be a huge gamble.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
1 year ago

This is all the medical teams fault!!11

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  fishfarm

Blame it on the PBP team, and Fill Nehvinn just not Perri Minazion or the Ohnerr. Nick Nurse and Laker’s former coach Frank Vogel plus former Yankee and Phillies skipper Joe Girardi, Doug Peterson in the NFL all these guys wunn a champyinshipp and still got canned. Yep coaches don’t matter as much as in the past CTPG 80%er Nation, how about getting with the program and quit living in flat earth thinking world.
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fishfarm
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

You know….. most pharmacies will give you a 7 day emergency refill if you run out of your pills.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 year ago
Reply to  fishfarm

 😂 

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Stoopid Arturo. He made O’Hoppe carry Carole’s luggage one too many times.

DowningDude
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1 year ago

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TrojanBoiler
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1 year ago

That was probably me. Given the dysfunction that is rampant throughout the Angels organization, I don’t think its unfair to question if the medical staff may have missed something and let him play and risk further injury. That would be VERY on brand for the Angels.

But we don’t know what we don’t know. Could just as easily be a random thing that happened that nobody could have prevented. Either way, it sure does suck. Hoping he has a speedy recovery and can get back to help us with a playoff push if we are in the hunt still.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

We won’t mention who said it, but im sure it wasnt you. The conditioning hasn’t been the same since they canned Ned Bergert in 2010

Twebur
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

It’s the lack of nutrition I tell ya…ever since they let go the Swedish Chef the food is awful…and Dr Nick, he’s too blame too.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Gold.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago

when the Pirates and Dbacks are in first place, consider it a sign from the heavens….

it’s still very early in the season

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Plus, Ohtani might make a sad face, or shake his head… and then we know we are all doomed

John Henry Weitzel
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1 year ago

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Well, if our ERA+ stay where it is with our “turrible” pitching but our sputtering offense gets into gear I’ll take it. We’ll at least compete.

Seeing the Pirates there…. something is wrong with this universe. Biggest problem is the ASStros are in the same boat as us, but it’s a bigger, better looking boat. Anybody think the Rangers will sustain an OPS+ of 120?

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 year ago

Joc Peterson and Paul DeJong in the same update? – might as well say Beetlejuice three times in a row.

DowningDude
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1 year ago

And suddenly 2002Heaven appears!!!

GrandpaBaseball
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

 😂 

Guest
1 year ago

The Angels scored 14 runs in the three game series against the Royals. Here is the list of which Angels produced what part of those 14 runs:

3.75 Trout
2.50 Renfroe
1.75 Thaiss
1.75 Wallach
1.25 Ohtani
1.25 Ward
1.00 Neto
0.50 Drury
0.25 Rengifo

This is the second time Trout has been the team leader in runs produced. The first time was in the TOR series. Thaiss and Wallach really stepped up to fill O’Hoppe’s offensive cleats.

Here are the year-to-date totals for the actual runs the Angel pitchers have allowed divided by the number of batters they faced. The number of batters faced is in parenthesis.

0.02 Ohtani (105)
0.06 Estevez (44)
0.06 Moore (44)
0.06 Wantz (34)
0.10 Sandoval (85)
0.10 Davidson (44)
0.10 Canning (41)
0.11 Barria (42)
0.12 Detmers (94)
0.12 Quijada (36)
0.15 Suarez (62)
0.17 Anderson (92)
0.18 Herget (35)
0.22 Loup (33)
0.25 Tepera (20)
0.29 Warren (6)

Quijada took a big dive from the top of the heap to the middle of the pack. Welcome to the 2023 baseball season, Austin Warren. Anderson has now surpassed Suarez as the Angels’ least effective starting pitcher. ERA falsely claims that Anderson (7.20) has been better than Suarez (9.26).

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 year ago
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Encouraged by Estevez, Moore and Wantz. Quijada will be back – he should have had a shorter hook when things turned south (we need to watch for that). Also optimistic with Warren, who looked better the second outing.

That is nice production from catcher, especially as they were essentially our 3rd and 4th options.

Half our scoring from 1-3, but nice to see almost every position represented here

And obviously if Trout slimmed down a little, he would have his typical 9+ runs added per series – slacker!

smithy610
Super Member
1 year ago

I think Quijada would also be back. He’s been used a lot because bullpen usage has been high since the starters haven’t gone deep in games, except for Shohei. And when Shohei pitches, run support is abysmal so even when he goes deep, Nevin is still forced to use his high leverage guys.

I don’t fault Nevin for putting Quijada in that Royals game, though maybe he should have had a shorter leash as compared to normal. Quijada just didn’t execute. Sometimes, managers make good decisions, and players just didn’t execute according to plan. It happens to every team.

Nevin should have pulled him though when it was clear he didn’t have control. But who would have been better in that situation? Loup?

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  smithy610

I don’t know that there were better options. It was just clear earlier that Queso didn’t have his usual spice, so if he had been pulled earlier his number would be lower. It was a bad night for him.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago

Warren hurriedly started throwing after the Salvador Perez walk on Saturday.

I would be shocked if another manager would have got a pitcher up sooner unless there was a preexisting condition that was being monitored. ( Which there wasn’t as Queso had been perfect this season up until this appearance) after the Duffy walk I though for sure that Nevin was going to pull him but the Catcher Thaiss (who should have been pulled earlier for Wallach) never went out to buy time by talking to Quijada. The only ball that was really crushed was the Isbel yellow line shot ( And it was crushed) I dont think Nevin wanted to bring in Warren to face a lefty and Queso got ahead of Melendez quickly and even though Melendez hits Lefties better than righties this year. Warren didnt do anything here to impress as his sinker ball did not sink so I doubt it would have made a difference when Quijada was pulled.

Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You are right about Thaiss missing the opportunity to slow the game down for his pitcher. Does he have anyone in the dugout who can talk to him about these sorts of things that will help him become a better catcher?

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to 

Phil Nevin was a catcher and a third baseman and a first baseman and a Left fielder and a right fielder….

FungoAle
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to 

He’s been in the minors for how long? Even non-catchers know that a break in the action can defer or prevent meltdowns. If he needs to learn this with the big club, too late and so long.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to 

Trout showed up in some clutch moments over the weekend. I was just saying last week that I couldn’t really recall him making some big hits when we needed it so far this season, but now I can happily retract my statement.

Last edited 1 year ago by TrojanBoiler
AnAngelsFan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to 

“ERA falsely claims that Anderson (7.20) has been better than Suarez (9.26).”

That’s only a false claim based on the assumption that some of the responsibility for Suarez’ earned runs lies with the relievers who replaced him and that Suarez wouldn’t have given up those runs himself if left in the game while struggling.

That assumption seems unlikely considering K/BB, Opp Avg, and WHIP all suggest Anderson is better than Suarez.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Both need to be better.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
1 year ago

I won’t argue with that.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 year ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Right now they both suck. Measuring suckage is easy, just look at the numbers ERA, WHIP, W-L, then make up your mind.

smithy610
Super Member
1 year ago

Nevin might not be a fan favorite for the manager position but it seems the players genuinely like playing for him:

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/mlb/as-angels-try-desperately-to-contend-phil-nevin-may-be-the-throwback-they-need

Multiple players spoke quite highly of Nevin’s approachability, communication skills, outrageous love for baseball and general availability; qualities that contrast starkly to his predecessor, Joe Maddon, who by the end of his time in Anaheim, was spending more time on the golf course than the ballyard. Nevin seems to have made a point of changing that culture.

“We’re not losing 12 in a row under Phil, I’ll tell you that,” one Angel joked, referencing the club’s brutal losing streak from a year ago. “He wouldn’t let that happen.”

angelsown3417
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  smithy610

We won’t lose 12 in a row again! Great news!

Twebur
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1 year ago
Reply to  angelsown3417

But 14 straight isn’t out of the question.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  smithy610

But the players needed to realize that Joe Maddon was avoiding managing the team because Perry called him one time and also kept trying to meet with the field manager. What kind of asshole GM does that? I read moneyball. That is NOT what winners do. He was also totally playing 3D chess by making it look like he was a disinterested clown who was more into reminiscing about when great FOs made his bones for him while he wore wacky clothing than managing but really he fully intended to spring into action at any moment and zazz the shit out of things. Sometimes it just takes three years to lull your enemy into a false sense of security. Stupid Perry.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  smithy610

Hmmm.

They might not lose 12 in a row, but will they be able to win 7 or 8 in a row ??

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

YOU JINXED IT!!!!!!!

clover_black
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  smithy610

it’s really weird how players would like and respect a former #1 pick as their manager .

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  clover_black

Interestingly, great players are not usually great managers. Pete Rose, Frank Robinson etc are examples. However, a decent player like Lou Piniella turned out to be a pretty darned good manager.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  smithy610

I’ve always thought it seems like he connects well with the players. I don’t get it though, he has as much personality as a used car battery.

Last edited 1 year ago by TrojanBoiler
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1 year ago

Check out these three photos from yesterday’s game. The photographers at The Halo Way have always been top-notch. Can the CtPG admins ask for permission to use their images?

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Cowboy26
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1 year ago
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You need to add the picture of Taylor Ward giving the young fan the ball after catching it in front of the stands in the left field corner. That was outstanding.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cowboy26
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

They don’t have a picture of that, but how about this O’Hoppe blast against the Nationals on April 11th?

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Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to 

Just makes me sad

Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Maybe full-grit Trout will lift your spirits.

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Fansince1971
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1 year ago
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These are awesome. Where are they coming from?

Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

The Angels’ official photographer(s) have a blog called “The Halo Way” that’s loaded with fantastic photos. They don’t travel with the team, but they shoot every home game and every Angels sponsored event in SoCal like the 5K run or when some Angel players visit a children’s hospital.

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to 

Nice! Thanks for the info!

tanana40
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1 year ago
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That is a great photo.

Guest
1 year ago

The Hyundai key to the game tonight against the A’s is John Lennon’s “(Just Like) Starting Over.”

Let’s just pretend the season hasn’t started yet. Today is Opening Day, and here we are playing the A’s just like we did on the real Opening Day. Play like all the potential you had in spring training is ready to roll over into the regular season and win these games against the Oaklands. Winning is fun.

https://youtu.be/jWG9KAgD6UA

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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I recommend you drink heavily.

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Last edited 1 year ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Twebur
Legend
1 year ago

I fear if this upcoming A’ss series gets sideways, Yoko Ono and Shohei’s mom will use it to break up the Angels.

Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

This comment literally made me laugh out loud.

tanana40
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

We need to re-sign Paul McNultey and sign John Lannan.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  tanana40

Paul and John wrote some good music!

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Don’t forget George. He penned the greatest Beatles song lyric.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I always lament the loss of the 5th beatle, Clarence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ilQZi_weI

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  tanana40

Paul worked very hard to get 6-pack abs, that’s why he protects it with two layers of fat.

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 year ago

Oakland is horrible…gotta take 3 of 4 for sure.

Suarez must act like a Major Leaguer tonight.

If not he better receive a one way ticket to SLC.

steelgolf
Super Member
1 year ago

Oakland beat Texas on Friday night.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Kansas City is arguably equal to if not worse than Oakland.

tanana40
Super Member
1 year ago

Four games sweeps are tough but this would be a good time for one (with the Angels winning all four, of course).

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  tanana40

Im sure glad you clarified that.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

here here.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago

Good morning my friends, a beautiful day on tap for SoCal today. Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away, three HR’s in a row. Hopefully that becomes a habit.

Logan O’Hoppe to have surgery, here is hoping for a speedy recovery to you kid, you will be missed.

We all new that we were weak with the Catcher position going in.

Neato Neto has shown up and taken charge at Shortstop very well.

Tyler Anderson, what can be said other than we can only hope for a turn around soon. But he has got a 3 year deal and his 4-seam -fastball travels 89.1 mph, just wondering, can that break a pane of glass?

Trout and Ohtani have similar numbers to start the season off, but Renfroe is the one still leading the team in HR’s and RBI

Well, for there just ain’t no surprises as the Angels are a .500 club, but anything is still possible just yet. Who knows, maybe a long win streak may show up. I do hope Phil Nevin is smart enough to change Rendon and Renfroe in the lineup, utilizing the stronger bat higher in the line up.

Walsh looks to be returning very soon and what a great sighting he will be out on the field with his magic glove play. If his bat returns to ST level we could see more HR’s from our lineup too.

Have yourself a wonderful morning and here is to many more Angels wins.  😀 

tanana40
Super Member
1 year ago

Recommended because of more Beatles references!