Passan on Twitter broke the story that Christmas has come early to the Angels rotation: The Angels have signed LH pitcher Tyler Anderson to a three year contract for $39 Million dollars. Anderson had turned down the Qualifying offer of 1 year at $19 Million from the Dodgers.
When we last saw Mister Anderson (yes, Matrix reference), he almost no-hit the Angels at Chavez Ravine, save for a ninth-inning double down the line by Shohei Ohtani, whew, but hey, Perry saw something to like there!
He turns 33 on December 30 but was an All Star last season, has a 2.57 ERA (with a 3.31 FIP), 4.3 WAR, is good for 7 Ks per 9, strikes out 4 guys for every one he walks, The WHIP of 1.002 may have been padded a bit by Dodger Stadium’s pitcher friendly mojo but he played road games too. After his years in Coors Field we know he will love the Los Angeles Marine Layer of Anaheim.
DOWNSIDE: Since Anderson rejected the Dodgers’ Qualifying Offer of $19.5 Million, the Blueballs get Anaheim’s 2nd round draft pick and the Angels forego $500,000 of international signing money.
SLIGHTLY SILVER LINING: He is an innings-eating #3 after Sho and Sandy, and could save a hundred bullpen innings getting deeper into games.
He wore jersey number 31 for the Dodgers last year and as much as I would love to see the Angels retire that for Chuck Finley, why not give it to a thirtysomething lefty for a few seasons to see how much magic the old Fin-to-Win still has in it?
So, baring trades that make grown men cry….
“some guy” Silseth? Canning?
Getting closer to you sadsacks not having to cry about Davidson anymore.
Keep those tear ducts moist fellas cuz Tucker D aint got no options left and I doubt hes going to get DFA’d anytime soon.
So he was offered a QO of $19M by the dodgers and then quickly signed for 3 years and $39M with the halos? This kinda seems like a situation where he wanted to stay in SoCal and couldn’t get more than 1 or 2 years from the dodgers.
He’ll likely suck for us more than he excels due to his age, but I don’t hate the signing.
Keith Law likes the signing. https://theathletic.com/3901101/2022/11/15/tyler-anderson-angels-dodgers/
Law don’t go around here, Savvy?
I am the law.
Thank you for making obvious the root of my quote
Has anyone fought you and lost?
Has anyone really fought him or were they just fighting the illusion?
I never lose fights cause I just whack people with my weird old school scales. Then I point. I point fiercely.
My dad used to say, “Never wrestle with a pig. All that happens is you both get dirty, and the pig likes it.”
You didn’t debunk my theory about our putrid bad drafts under the Eppler administration.
We went for quantity over quality and toolsy players whom almost all sucked. Throwing sh*t against a Teflon wall and hoping some of it will stick obviously. However, in hindsight maybe either way it wouldn’t have mattered when you have a LA Unified School District caliber scouting and player development garbage program.
What about our putrid bad drafts under the Dipoto administration?
.’I fought the law…’
Without the loss of the 2nd round pick and the 500k international money, I’d give this an A+. Even with that loss, I’ll still give it an A-
This solidifies the rotation at a reasonable price. Very reasonable given the potential: he well might approach this years numbers. Our pitching could be fine as is between what we have at the mlb level and what’s coming up soon from AA.
Now we address our other needs: a SS/2B, 1B/3B/OF platoon for Walsh, and an outfielder. I like the idea of a defensive outfielder, and let Adell and Moniak compete for regular playing time. Maybe a one year contract for a catcher to give O’Hoppe another 1/2 year or so to develop, although I’m hoping he forces his way up sooner.
Angels need another outfielder who can hit. Adell and Moniak don’t look like answers except as platoon guys. The team needs a real solid OF who is a threat at the plate. It could be a host of guys. Profar. Mancini. JD Martinez. Benintendi. Various others. But they need someone. They likely can get by without a SS.
I like it. I like most moves until the player gets here and underperforms.
Yes if this was the Astros Anderson would be a 3 time Allstar.
Yeah, because he’d know which pitch was going … oh wait….
Serious, give up a pick and international pool money for a guy like Anderson? Gottobefuckingkiddingme. You guys cheering on this are mistaken.
He is a guy pitching on a very good team with excellent starters. Pitching on a team like that brings out the best.of a journeyman. Reality will sit in in 2023.
I think you are over valuing a second round draft pick too much. Even if he regresses to his career 4 era, he is likely better than the second rounder we’d get. Take a look at who we’ve drafted in the second round in the past. In the last 10 years only three of the selections have been MLB regulars and none of them (so far) have had much success – Yarbrough, Canning, and Marsh.
While there is risk in any sport with amatuer draft picks, Angels saw the farm shrink in stature when they signed the likes of Puljos and Hamilton. No problem losing the draft pick but what matters with whom they gave it away on. Angels gave it up on a 4-5th starter. Last year a guy off of TJ.
Andersons statlines in 2022 were signficantly better than his first 5-years. THAT is Loup-ish. I LOVED Anderson last year and an under the radar guy who had upside. The Dodgers squeezed every ounce out of him and probability, his 2023 stats will come in closer to his first 5-years. Misfire.
Defense on the Dodgers was better than ours. Coaching maybe considered better than ours. Minor leaguers come from the draft. Yeas, losing draft picks hurts. How did Thor work out. I am no way in favor of this stupid (Def of stupid is….) signing. Look at the big picture, Anderson’s career.
Well then that settles it. Lets sign away their shortstop.
Well if you never have one, I guess you’ll never know.
But I think you’re closing the book a little prematurely on past drafts since the careers are still in there infancy for Bush, Paris, J.J. Canning & Marsh.
But I do agree the JeDi second round draft picks were pretty trashy.
Who would you prefer and what is the cost to acquire them?
Agreed. Dude has one great season out of seven and it was with one of the best teams in all of baseball, who also had one of the best defenses in all of baseball. We’ll see how he pans out but chances are we’re gonna get the 2016-21 Tyler Anderson, not the 2022 version.
The 2016-2021 version was dead on MLB average.
Mixed feelings about this deal. On one hand, Anderson is not someone I’m prepared to bet on, since he was pretty much a back of rotation guy until he got touched up by Dodger fairy dust. BUT the contract does take the risk into account–middle of the rotation money, at best, for a guy who had eye popping numbers last year. It’s a big gamble (tbh, this reminds me of Loup signing), but even with the draft pick loss and int’l money, it seems to be a worthwhile risk
Don’t mind it. I see everyone is sober about expectations post-Dodgers fairy dust which is prudent. But even a league average starter is a nice lift for our usual rotation woes.
New pitching assistant maybe helps the fairy dust live on to some degree?
This is a really good early strike move. Cost controlled pitcher, who hopefully stays healthy. Bolster the rotation early so your not stuck with January scraps.
Lve that it came a day after Boras insisting that new ownership will need a Big Spla$h…
I thought Anaheim Stadium had pitching friendly mojo? Or is that just the excuse they give why our hitters all suck?
Some of the mojo went away when they painted that yellow line in right field.
Quick, everyone, we need to shit all over this as hard as possible and ensure our piss ant CtPG ju ju scuttles this roster addition too. Say it with me, “I can see a way that this may not work, thus it will not work, PTP is stupid and Arte is the dark heart of evil, I love this team too much and demand a champion.” Repeat.
You got it all wrong. You need to write that you HATE THE MOVE and then later on after Turks posts his opinion then you say “HEY, GREAT MOVE.” Posting both gives you the ability to “I TOLD YA SO” sometime down the line as you can come back and delete the incorrect comment the minute you find out which is the correct answer.
I want Suboptimal’s opinion.
The sarcasm here is thicker than the European butter I spread on my toast. Haha
Anyway, this is a truly solid signing at fair market value, particularly if we’re sticking with the 6 man rotation. You can never have enough proven arms.
Also, this signing should not preclude the necessary upgrades for the lineup.
This is a solid ‘B’ grade.
I think it is more like a B + or even A – grade. The only reason it is not straight up an A is his age. Hopefully he has a couple years left in that arm. So yes, health will be the key here.
But I like it.
I think this move also suggest PTP is not going to “strip it all down” like some here were suggesting…
I don’t think he ever was although sone of those posts were great.
Alot of people acted like that’s what was gonna happen, lol.
No, you acted like you thought people thought it should/would actually happen. It was all inside you all the time…. like in that crap Robin Williams movie.
Get lost loser.
Wow Jack, shockingly you seem tight around the sphincter. I’ve always wondered how long it takes someone to die when they can’t drop a poop. I think I’ll stick around and find out.
Stay serious. And remember, if you ever ever admit you’re even a little wrong about anything, or let any of the horrible wrong thoughts other people have that aren’t your thoughts stand uncorrected IT ALL ENDS in blood and flame.
With the Platypus’ physique? thats last thing I ever want to see
Of course once we announce we will do our Perry articles he does something.
In most important news, Touki Toussaint was DFA’d. That’s it, 2023 is a wash.
Bye Bye Touki Touki
Perry’s trash brought to Anaheim…BYE
I could abide the decade of futility, but the release of Touki is the final straw !!!
We just DFA’d Nash Bridges…
Only 21 years after CBS …
this is pretty cool.
i hope he wrote down all the things the dodgers taught him in his diary.
I hope he took a vile of the secret juice for analysis….Arte can then make a knock off.
And Eric Kay can administer said potion to … welp … BAD IDEA
And Bubba Harkins can give it to the visiting teams .
Is that the secret juice that shows you how to choke in the playoffs ??
He’s not gonna have a 4 WAR season for us… hell he may only do that over 3 seasons but for 13 mil a year that’s not bad. We need this kind of quality depth.
A multi-year deal for a starter that doesn’t also hit absolutely monster DINGRZ?
What is going on?!
If think You meant USED to hit absolutely monster DINGRZ
Maybe we should check in on Trevor Bauer……… 😱 💋 💩
We coulda signed Verlander…..I’m sorry….just can’t do it even in facetiousness.
Chase Silseth is thinking,”…I can pitch but I’m right-handed”
Does everyone else think that though?
Ha haaaahh hah! What a schmuck am I! I sass about nothing happening today that will move the needle…. and f*** me.
And it’s my long time heart throb to boot, Tyler Anderson, even if I always wanted him as an 8M a year innings eater….
Unlike most of us, at least you admit it. 😜
Thor gave the Angels 80 innings with an ERA+ of 105. On the year Thor went 134.2 innings with an ERA+ of 103.
Anderson costs $7 million less than Thor and should be able to match that yearly production. If he does, this is a good deal.
If he gets anywhere near his 2022 form, and I’d bet against it, this is a steal.
Jeff, at least this lefty FA starter isn’t (Known to be) really focused on photography………
Can’t really blame a guy married to a Brazilian supermodel for wanting to take pictures though.
I think Thor is borderline washed.
Anderson is the better option, for the price tag, at this juncture.
Agreed. Thor can’t get that third strike anymore. Guys can foul off pitches and stay in at bats nowadays. That too often ends up in hits.
Jeff, you hit the nail on the head. Thor also likely wants more than $13 million per year. You also cannot count on more than one year.
Why don’t we just resign David McKinnon for the league minimum? Nobody will even notice the difference.
And when Thor loses batters , we get to watch them stroll along the base paths.
Not worth the pick and international pool money.