LA Angels Monday News Crash: Disaster Joe

On Friday night Joe Maddon ordered an intentional walk with the bases loaded to drive in a run for the Rangers. The Angels ended up winning the game, but how is anybody’s guess. Joe Maddon says he did it at least in part to light a fire under his own team. Disaster Joe?

Maybe it worked. Maybe not. Mike Trout was hit by a pitch on Sunday. The X-rays were negative and he is day to day.

The Diamondbacks are considering hiring Justin Upton. For his own part, Upton is considering retiring.

Byron Buxton injured his right knee without causing any structural damage. ???

Hyun Jin Ryu is on the 19 day IL. So is Sonny Gray.

The Trevor Bauer saga wears on.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Cowboy26
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2 years ago

Stomach bug my ass. He was probably out too late partying with his hometown buddies last night. https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1516177834087268352

Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m not a doctor but…..

Trout has a stomach bug. Trout was in the dugout, hanging out with players, and giving high fives.

Probably wasn’t best for slowing the spread of the stomach bug.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ha ha. Body language is of somebody who is hungover, lol.

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago

Heaney + Doyers = Ace

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago

Let’s go Joe Mandon!

The dude is broken and delusional. If he thinks he did that to fire up his own team, OMG. He always wants to portray himself as the smartest guy in the room.

Who do we want to take his place next year? Veteran “competent” leadership is making a comeback these days vs rookie managers. Perry seems like a guy who would want a newbie though but I’m looking for a Melvin type and Bochy is ready to come back.

boyjohn
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2 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Please don’t use that phase like that, it just lumps you in with idiot Trumpsters

Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago
Reply to  boyjohn

Requisite let’s not mention the Brandon thing or the cult of the orange guy past this, please.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Well, despite your denials, so far it has.

Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Meme attempt aside you are 100% correct that Maddon tries to make himself the smartest, coolest guy in every room. That is annoying.

Perry is a nice mix of old and new school. I’ve always loved Bochy and that would be Arte’s hire. Not sure who Perry would pick.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Catchers make good managers but…there was Ausmus so there goes that theory.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago

This season the Angels will honor their contract with Matty V. and continue to use Patrick too. I like Patrick as he comes with excitement and chemistry with Gubi is spot on. His knowledge of the team is good, and he comes off as rooting for the team most of the time. Given time he rubs off on you and I appreciate the position he is in but, he needs some more time to get a rhythm for doing PxP as it will come to him, he will just keep on getting better.

Matty V. is in a very tough position trying to call games from watching a TV set and still not sounding as he is behind on the plays. He has been doing PxP for almost twenty years and is a professional, but he is just now coming around to sounding like a team announcer rather than a national announcer. He has worked hard I can hear to learning a lot more about the team and it shows in his team knowledge. He and Gubi bounce off of each other very well for two guys watching TV 3,000 miles apart and with short to long delays in relays of the game.

I am glad that it is fixed that the announcers for the TV will travel with the team and broadcast on the road. Assuming Terry and Langs will do the same.

Next season I hope that one or the other will be picked to call all the game rather than rotate.

toad2065
Member
2 years ago

An improvement to be sure, Grandpa, however Patty is not the answer!. He comes across to me as a phony frat boy. I also would like to know how the hell Bally decided to bump the Saturday game to Bally SoCal in favor of Rugby followed by Tennis! Low quality video for my beloved Angels, but the Rugby video was excellent.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago

Games through 4-16-22 as the new power rankings released today. Angels moved from #18 up 10 spots to #8. Holding us back are the current strength of schedule. #1 are the Doyers.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

Here’s a question unrelated to baseball.

That picture of the girl and the fire sold as an NFT for something like $1 million. So how can it be used without licensing it? Doesn’t the image ‘belong’ to the buyer of the NFT? If not, what is the value of owning the NFT?

Sorry for the non-baseball question.

BruinsAngelsKings
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I don’t even understand this NFT stuff.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Still having trouble figuring out why anyone would pay money to own a specific identifiable copy

Twebur
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2 years ago
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Fansince1971
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2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Interesting for sure! Thanks for sharing

John Henry Weitzel
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

NFTs are like buying a receipt. Seriously. You don’t own the image. You can’t enforce a copyright. All you get is a very energy expensive receipt that says you bought it.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
2 years ago

Upton is getting paid the same this year whether he plays or not. The only reason for him to sign with another team is if he thinks he will hit well enough to earn another contract next year. On the other hand, he could sit the year out and try to get an invite to spring training next year based on representations after a full year of rest he’s healthier than he has been in years.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago

Did the Players sing the Doors’ “Light my fire” before the game? Joe is full of it, and he knows he got lucky. I hope I never see him walk in a run-on purpose ever again. Bad enough his ridiculous line-ups, poor choosing of the relief pitcher coming in, or not playing the right position players in a game.

At 8:10 in the morning gave me no warning that a live Baseball game could be on. Minnesota is in Fenway right now.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 years ago

Lol. “He knows he got lucky.” Uh, and just how do you know that? Did he tell you, “Wow, Grandpa, I really got lucky with that one.” Or perhaps you can read minds?

As far as the intro here, the question “Maybe it worked and maybe it didn’t” is kind of funny. Of course it worked. The Angels won the game, which is the goal when you step on the field.

Furthermore, has anyone noticed, but the Angels have not lost since Joe made that move. Finishing a series victory against the Rangers was very satisfying. Not because they are a really good team (they are not), but rather because the Angels have made a habit of playing down to their competition the last few years. So far this season they have not done that, going 5-1 against the Marlins and Rangers (two teams we played who were under .500 last year).

Now the real test comes with three games at Houston. Are these last few games “Fools Gold” or are we a different team this year?

Hopefully no BS shenanigans come from the MLB offices on replays in this series.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Joe has made a pretty distinguished managerial career by being full of it. His crazy style works . Don’t ask me how except Players love to play for him.

LanaBanana
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

It didn’t look like Mike Trout was loving it.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

I thought his reaction was more bewilderment than disgust. I think we all had that reaction.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Apparently Warren was okay with the move. And it was his WHIP and FIP that would go up, not Trout’s.

Last edited 2 years ago by JackFrost
Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Warren was OK with the move publicly. Like a good team player. Especially a rookie.

At this stage I think he’ll do about anything to stay at the MLB level.

Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Over the last 40‘ish years of being an Angels fan, if I received a dollar for every time I though it “wouldn’t be a bad idea” if we INT walk this guy with the bases loaded, because he’s going to hammer the shit out this pitcher…..I’d have many, many, many dollars.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
2 years ago

Really doesn’t matter if he got lucky. They won, which is why they play the game .As long as they are not cheating (asstros) IDGAF how they win as long as they win.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago

Robert Manfred is forcing Trevor Baurer to use his out on his contract after this season to help the Dodgers 33 million dollars. Having one man hold the power over any one other human being regardless of the accusation(s) and misusing it is just flat out wrong. It does not matter what he did, if no crime or offense is warranted or filed or much more proved then why is this Commissioner allowed to hold Bauer in limbo and kept from playing.

If this happened to anyone on this site we would all feel the same way. Bauer is a disgusting human being in so many ways, no one will disagree, but the Dodgers knew who they signed. Oppenheimer knew what they were doing, but now they have certainly said to MLB we screwed the Pooch on this so help us out. Manfred is allowed to do this why? Just appears to be a misuse of power to me. When Bauer opts out of his contract someone will resign him cheap, or maybe no team resigns him but he will still be black listed possibly because of his being stupid and the resulting power of a man who has shown in the past to have had poor judgement just as Bauer has had.

I am not a fan of Bauer’s, was glad we didn’t sign him, but when having nothing but using poor judgement is not enough proof for me to see why one other human can stop you from playing MLB is just not right. The market place will fix the problem if there is a problem.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago

Bauer will not opt out unless he has an offer in hand that will pay him at least the same amount that The Dodgers are on the hook to pay him.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

You may be right, but I think he really wants to play, so we will see.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
2 years ago

Bauer is getting paid while in this leave. There’s no way anything Manfred does will get Trevor to opt out of $33 million.

One can argue MLB is buying the Dodgers some expensive time to see if they want to release him or trot out a pariah.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If Bauer wants to play he will opt out if his agent thinks they can find a team to sign with. If not he sits out one more year while being paid. I think someone will be offering the Dodgers something for him, yes just a guess on my part. Pitching is hard to find and so if and when Manfred is done with him some team will go for him. He will always from now on be on a short leash.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
2 years ago

Would you rather make $33 million dealing with the Dodgers or maybe 10% of that to play with whatever team will actually take you?

Bauer is such an odd duck it could go either way. But I think we’ll see him cashing LA’s checks and playing in the Mexican League before we’ll see him on another MLB team at a fraction of the cost.

Designerguy
Super Member
2 years ago

I can get used to seeing this everyday during the season.

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Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Having a green run dif. makes me so happy too.

OMAHALOFAN
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

MLB.com isn’t so impressed, they have the Halos at 18th in the latest power rankings.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago
Reply to  OMAHALOFAN

Today we moved into 8th place.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 years ago

And CBS Sports has moved us from 23 to 9

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago

But did anyone move us from 25 or 6 to 4?

Designerguy
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Either the Cubs or White Sox made that move.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

we had a good Friday in the park. We had a good Sunday in the park. We also had a good Saturday in the Park.

Halo71
Trusted Member
2 years ago

The fact the Angels’ second string relievers shut down the Rangers makes me optimistic

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago

 🎧 “Slow down you move to fast, gotta make the morning last.” 🎵  It has been so long since we were in first by ourselves, I pinched myself last night just to make sure I was not dreaming. It’s sensational to feel (Billy Cystal voice) “Marv alas”.

Being optimistic is a good thing, as I see a bright future for us still. We have the pitching. We can hit the ball pretty damn good too. Soon enough we will be jumping on the (O’Jays) “The Win Train”. We have excitement in the Clubhouse, the Dugout and on the Angels Blogs.

After having a winning series in Houston in this series we will be on our way. Wednesday’s game is pivotal in that Shohei needs to be Showtime on the mound.

We are deserving.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago

At least Sam Blum with The Athletic finally wrote what needs to be written. Cheap Arte & the Bally’s Industrial Complex need to knock this amateurish shit off. https://theathletic.com/3255061/2022/04/17/blum-the-angels-embarrassing-telecasts-show-why-in-person-broadcasting-is-necessary/

Now we need to get the radio broadcasts to go on the road trips too.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 years ago

Big week. Hope Trout’s hand recovers without complication. Hope the team cuts bait with Vasgersian and finds another Rich Waltz type. Our 2 options can’t be humiliating delays or an inexperienced amateur.

Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

We shouldn’t have cut the Rich Waltz type guy we had. Rich Waltz.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I’m still hopeful the Pat O’Neal can develop into a first class pxp announcer like Victor did. But it takes time and patience. It’s a very tough job.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Agreed.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Waltz still had some obligations with college sports. I think Patrick would’ve gotten a dozen or so games this year even with Waltz. Perfect way to break him in slowly.

It has been a while but when I worked in radio we would sit back and listen to our tapes after the show. I’m talking about a bit here and there between songs. So much more tape doing a full baseball broadcast.

Patrick trying to learn and fill 3.5 hours per night is a tall task.

toad2065
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Here, here! Totally agree. And BTW, how come the new girl got to go on the trip?