The Qualifying Offer deadline has come and gone, and the Angels have extended one to relief ace Raisel Iglesias. As Jon Heyman points out, no reliever has ever made $18.4 million in a season, the total Iglesias would stand to make should he accept (and there be a season).
However, I would posit that Iglesias’s track record means he will likely decline the offer and try to garner a three-year deal similar to the $54 million total that Liam Hendriks got last offseason (incidentally, that did not prevent the Chicago White Sox from exercising Craig Kimbrel’s hefty $16 million option). We will see if Iglesias gets this deal from the Angels or from another team.
The Gold Gloves have been announced. Although neither Angels finalist won, it seems very hard to argue that either David Fletcher or Jared Walsh should have won over Marcus Semien and Yuli Gurriel.
With roster shuffling and clearing of 40-man rosters going around, the Angels added two players to their 40-man roster: Brendon Davis and Andrew Velazquez. Velazquez looks to compete with Jack Mayfield for the utility infield position in 2022.
We have plenty of offseason content coming your way over the next few weeks. With awards results coming soon, we at CtPG have voted on all the major awards, and we will be releasing those results over the last few weeks. Furthermore, before the huge offseason moves start coming in, we will be running our “If I Were Perry” series again, and we invite all of you guys to participate as well! Fingers crossed for no lockout!
Not all bad news today. Here’s what PTP said today about the 2022 payroll ( According to Jeff Fletcher at the OC Register)
Minasian would not specifically say what the Angels’ payroll is going to be for 2022.
“Anything is possible,” he said when asked if the payroll would be higher than the roughly $180 million the Angels spent for 2021.
If the Angels keep their budget about the same as last year, they would have about $50 million to spend this winter.
“I wouldn’t rule us out of anything,” Minasian said, adding “I’m looking forward to this offseason. I think we’re going to be able to do some things to help this team improve.”
Perry the Puffer. Geeze, what non-committal statements. Google back to last November, this is all looking similar.
Yep. You’re right. That has been the party line every off-season in recent memory.
I say “show us, don’t tell us.”
Ha! You guys are soooo wrong. Everyone knows this year is going to be different.
Yeah. He should just come out and tell all the other GMs (and agents) in the MLB exactly what our payroll is going to be. That’s what thooper thmart GMs do. Then he should flex his biceps and yell at Fletcher “Being unclear about your payroll is for pussies!”. That outa show em… whoever em is.
My guess is payroll will be around 180, maybe a tiny bit lower. Our payroll rank and franchise value rank seem to usually be really close to each other, so we’ll probably come in around #7-9 (we are starting high at #4 after last year). It may jump up a little if it turns out we can sign a couple pitchers when the FO expected one of them to land elsewhere (say it turns out the Giants don’t want to pay Gaussman or something).
I doubt it jumps to 220M no matter how many CtPG comments demand it in the name of manly winningness and I also doubt it gets slashed to 140M unless the teams Covid losses/suckage losses are way worse than anyone realized.
50M to work with is why some folks have been saying we aren’t gonna sign a SS, #2 Catcher, two “quality” “ace” starting pitchers, and three pen arms…. plus no risky experiments or dumpster dives. We’d need more like 70M to do that.
What about Sandoval ? Seems like another guy due for a missing season. Griffin Canning? He just sucked then fell off with a broken back? The best thing this org could do is athletic training and all that analytical stuff. Perry is in over his head but so is the rest of the FO.
annoying
It begins…
#Angels RHP Chris Rodriguez will miss most of the 2022 season after having right capsule repair surgery (shoulder).
Some things never change…..
The guy is injury prone, might as well release him.
…….. or just assume he’ll never be healthy enough to be counted on..
As they say, availability is the most important ability. .
Wont hurt to keep him around and squeeze a few month/weeks a year from him.
Sounds like a young Gil Meche in training
Nice guy but completely unreliable. Don’t need guys like that.
He has a violent delivery, Angels used him quite a bit early on. Seriously, this is sad news.
Not even a week into the offseason and we have our first buttercup.
Wouldn’t be the holiday season/ off season without this kind of news.
Something that maybe could have been addressed with surgery when he first went down.
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1457824011040157697
A Doyer Reunion for Heandog? Cy Young here we come.
Cue 2002 next year.
When money is no object, you pay Andrew Heaney $8M per year.
Friedman has been showing chinks in his armor lately.
They see something they can fix.
Won’t be surprised if he has a career year in 22
They must need a new left handed reliever option for game 6 of the 2022 NLCS
That is what I’m thinking. They will put him in the pen where he only needs to pitch 1 or 2 innings a couple of days a week.
You know, something that hasn’t been said yet is that a big part of this (as well as the Pujols pickup) is probably an attempt to stick it to Arte. It is a pretty good bet that the Dodgers were embarrassed by the Stripling/Pederson trade fiasco and they’d like to get back at Arte for the way he insulted them by going over everyone’s head in killing that trade.
I would not be surprised if that is going on, in fact I see it as very likely.
Or it could be institutional racism. Arte’s Hispanic and the Dodgers, as an institution, have a history of screwing over Art’s people. It could also be Aliens. Maybe the Grays are running Los Doyers. Also Russia.
Didn’t Gray get recalled in 2003?
And he got Terminated, by a cyborg name Arnold Schwarzenegger.
So what we need to do is sign Gray’s and Cyborg’s if we have a chance to make the playoffs next year.
All that too. Except the part about Russia.
I was secretly hoping the Grays would be our two FA SP signings.
Sonny is one of them.
My first thought as well. There’s something they see and are confident then can fix.
I’m betting they don’t fix anything. I don’t think he’ll make it through the year on their roster.
What Frost said!!! /\
Didn’t we say the same thing about Pujols?
The Doyers didn’t “fix” anything with Pujols. They simply utilized him in a more efficient manner. Of course Albert refused to play that role for us, so….
Might just be weekly appointments with a psychiatrist
……..Or very confident in their ‘magic juice’ that has special healing powers for the mind. body and soul.
Taaka?
Nah its Rust Oleum
Jalapeno in the Nose.
Yeah, the money is pretty hefty, but I wouldn’t have minded at all to see Heaney back on a $5M deal or something. His stuff is still so so good for his numbers
Yup. One does not go dumpster diving hoping that the garbage will be great by itself. You do it b/c you think your people can recycle the garbage and turn it into something useful. If you can’t recycle, no hope of finding something useful in the dumpster.
PS. FWIW, Heaney’s peripherals are pretty good. It’s mostly his ungodly and continuing/worsening tendency to give up the long ball (which has now reached comical levels) that’s been the problem. If the Dodgers can fix him and keep his HR tendencies to something within reason, more power to them….
He’ll improve slightly by being in the NL West where Colorado is a problem but Doyers, Giants and Padres play in pitchers parks.
No need for them to bring Kershaw back now. Pitching solved.
No need to bring Bauer back
Unfortunately The Mighty Doyers don’t control that one
Heaney needs better coaching. He might have found it.
Angel pitchers are having a solid AFL……
Nathan Burns 1.29 ERA
Zach Linginfelter 2.61 ERA
Another Cardinal defector joining the ranks….
https://twitter.com/katiejwoo/status/1457758359961018371?s=20
It seems like Jobel actually wants to be here. It sounds like the guys we previously picked up from the Cards player development department were well liked and are leading to additional defections.
He’s hoping to get his picture on 2002’s “Wall of Gaylord”
Would we rather have Jobel as a coach or Jobu?
Jobu. For the rum.
Voodoo might be just what we need.
Jobu. can hit a curveball. Sign him up as a player!
Iglesias has until Nov. 17 to accept the QO. More pertinent, the Angels have until Nov. 17 to reach an extension deal to avoid Iglesias testing the market.
And then the Angels have until Nov 19 to set their 40 man roster for the Rule 5 draft. (Which is currently set at 39) If by some miracle D Cell accepts the QO (or signs a new contract prior to 11/19) they will have to fill that spot on the 40 man . If not and they are still negotiating, This will allow them to put the Stefanic on the 40 man ahead of the rule 5 draft. (If the Angels think the plumber’s worthy)
Well I’m glad we are in store for some great offseason Halos content because the Lakers are horrible and the Rams are overrated.
Indeed, it’s about time for the Rams to go into a tailspin.
I fell like we’re in a time warp. Meet the New L.A. Rams. Same as the old L.A. Rams ( minus the black widow owner of course)
The QO to Iglesias makes me happy. It makes me feel someone is behind the wheel and making good choices.
OT: Time changes suck
Yes they do.
Cold weather sucks.
Gravity doesn’t exist, the Earth sucks.
The Angels Blowpen sucks
I thought it did the opposite of sucks – blows. (But what do I know, I haven’t seen 4000 games with my own eyes).
But I thought Texas sucks because Oklahoma blows?
Do ya know why Kansas is so windy?
Because Oklahoma blows and Nebraska sucks.
Do these windy/sucks post apply to the AV?
Mike Trout loves that joke
4000…how old are you?
4000/162=25 seasons.
Just means he doesn’t have Lyle eyes.
Older than that, but I haven’t seen every game every year (especially living abroad) – and my name isn’t Lyle 😉
You can’t hide your Lyle eyes
And your post is a thin disguise
Thought by now, you’d realize
There ain’t no way to hide your Lyle eyes
Where is our old friend now?
Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate the fucking Eagles, man.
Newton would disagree.
Yeah but can he pitch?
If he has an out pitch…SIGN HIM!!!
Quasars bro. Quasars.
No, hot weather sucks.
Astros suck
I’m so glad they lost.
The right team won
GG voters suck….or blow…which will create sucking.
https://halohangout.com/2021/11/08/both-gold-glove-finalists-la-angels-snubbed-complete-joke-fletcher-walsh/
Congress, please do something constructive…eliminate DST.
Yes it takes an act of Congress to change the time changes.
When I was in college at CSUF, I worked swing shift in retail down in Fountain Valley. That first Monday after going back to standard time felt like we were working until midnight. HATE DST!!
I thought CA voted to get rid of it a couple of years ago?
Replying to myself, I actually do that a lot but that is another issue. Like halofansince1978 said, seems even though CA voted to end it (2018 Prop 7), it still has to go before congress and I suppose they have been busy with other things.
If I remember correctly, that bill authorized the state government to “consider” changing it. The vote wasn’t to change it, but to allow our reps to discuss it. Which is splitting hairs.
it has stalled because there are 2 factions, one faction wants the “Fall Back” time we just entered, and the other faction wants the “Spring Forward” time. Politicians can’t even agree on an hour! It can’t be brought before congress until that gets worked out, so probably best just to consider it dead.
I think the public consensus is to keep it the time we just left, which is the Daylight Saving time. The people who want sunlight in the early morning hours this time of year like the change back (like my GF who gets up to run before work and prefers their being light for safety reasons). I’m not a morning person, so having the sun set later in the day would be my preference.
I don’t really care which one they choose, just choose ONE!!!!
Sorry, I couldn’t resist…