LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Offensive Woes?

Good Morning Angels Fans! Hope you enjoyed last night! Here, have some links!

Angels News

The Angels won yesterday thanks to some offense in the 9th and Fletcher’s glove.

David Fletcher is one of John Smoltz’s most entertaining players in MLB history. Huh. Neat.

Thumbs up for Fletch!

The Fantasy people at Pitcherlist has taken note of  José Suarez. Angels pitching good?

Yes actually. Angels pitching has been good. The offense has not though. Which made last night’s 9th rather surprising.

In the Tigers broadcast, Jack Morris made a rather tiring joke about Asians. Apologies were made before the game was over.

Hey look, Mike Trout is doing exercises with the team! Is he healthy? No one knows.

Around Baseball

The A’s had a scary moment with a comebacker. Bassitt was rushed to the hospital and is as fine as you can be considering the circumstance.

The Padres are in danger of missing the postseason. With a tough schedule and the Reds and St. Luis catching them, things are not looking good down south. They even lost the season series to Colorado!

However, the MFY are in a wild card spot now. Ugh.

Baltimore is very, very bad right now. So is Texas, except vs the A’s somehow.

If the NL gets a DH next year, these may be the last pitcher hitting highlights in MLB ever. Well, unless you are Ohtani.

Tommy LaStella seems to be doing good for himself in SF.

Fox Sports, well what is left of them, asked a question Salary Cap? The amount of Salary Floor comments have been overwhelming.

Want to see how good or bad the Cubs have traded? Here. Pretty neat huh? I wonder what the Angels one looks like… Vernon Wells flashbacks

Springer is hurt. Again. Maybe he needs to lay off the trash cans…

Mercedes is looking at going to Japan? I don’t know, I don’t read Instagram attention seeking.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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2002heaven
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2 months ago

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Of course I wanted the Houston Astros to win the 2017 World Series!!! 😆  💪  💪 
Gotta go……to Georgia.

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DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Ben Affleck?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

Who is that? And why does he look like he wants to buy some young women and secret them away to his island in the Persian Gulf? And…. as almost always… what does he have to do with anything?

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

That’s the guy who was in parts and a half in the Hangover series, and is an ant, man.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Ant man. If genders align he’d be an uncle man

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Great – now Arte has approval for a new budget.

eyespy
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2 months ago

We are at $180M no. So a smaller budget?

This makes it seem that Arte was holding out on the starting point.

red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Why the new tax? Isn’t there ALREADY revenue sharing?

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Nuthin’ new, just reshuffling.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  eyespy

How would it be nothing new? It would require a team like the Pirates to pay almost 40% per year more in player salary. They’d probably keep a player like Frazier or Reynolds in that case and maybe their fans wouldn’t all be on Lexapro all the time.

eyespy
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2 months ago

Let me get to a keyboard, and I’ll explain things. On the phone now, and busy bringing home the bacon.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Sizzle-lean is healthier buddy

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Turkey bacon. Like the players, I deserve more of the money I make for my company.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

I am the source here:

They are just giving the small guys a better deal on the profit-sharing of the MLB goods sold to us fools.

The big boys don’t need that chump change, and if they don’t want to share, ahem Mr. Moreno, they don’t need to go over the 180 number dictated by ManBearFred.

I would think this is something different than the penalty for going over the threshold. That multi-year thing should be staying in place.

Now there will be a minimum total salary per team, that may get some extra cash in the pockets of the above so-so player on the bottom-dwelling teams. This will push up the cost of said comparable players on other teams. making it harder for rosters to be filled for the teams that want to keep that extra per caps cash, but are not in that generous giving mood of going over the threshold.

The big-ticket players may see a drop in salary, now going to the players getting paid to make it to the $100M point small market teams spreadsheet debit column. The big names that lose money will be most likely be on the 180 teams.

The MLB is teams, combined to make a company, that all have the same goal. How they get there is by teamwork. The MLB is working together to create interest all around the league by improving player recognition on all the teams.

We will see if this works. Most likely it is just air mail before the negotiations begin with the MLBPA, before the strike.

Remember now. The threshold is just a gimmick to make the team owners look responsible with the money. Stupid rich with the responsibility of putting as much of it as they can into their pockets. This 180 thing is just another facet on the baseball diamond that they all take their cut from.

We all know they could do so much more for baseball as a whole with all this money they have.

Some minimum wage reading

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Well, that would be interesting. Though I don’t see why they don’t just require revenue sharing teams to use the money they receive to pay players and nothing else.

Fun facts….

Right now 14 teams fall under 100M.
7 teams including ours fall over it.
9 teams are in the “sweat spot”.
League average is 130M

Teams that are “under” and in the play off chase? 5.
Teams that are “over” and in the chase? 6. All but the Angels who are 670K over.

I really like the idea of a minimum. I’m not a wanker about rich people being rich. I don’t care, and I’m a fool to focus on a pile of 30 people who HAVE TO be incredibly rich to join the group and then be angry that they act like wealthy people. But there should be a floor to the cheapness of the revenue sharing teams or 1/3 of the fanbase looses interest and the sport suffers. I’d love a salary cap too, but all those poor players in the MLBPA need to be protected from that. MLB off seasons would be interesting as hell if we had a salary cap and you got a lot of player movement because of it.

H.T. Ennis
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2 months ago

I suppose in negotiating, no matter how much one party has, it is hard to make someone give up something (owners paying the players more, with salary floor), without something in return.

So I get it. I like this better for baseball than our current state, although obviously, the Angels would be a little worse off.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago

Arrieta’s first start for San Diego did not go well. 3.1 IP, 7 hits, 1 walk, 5 earned runs, 3 Ks.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago

So you’re saying he’s ready to lead our bullpen?

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago

I’d consider Bill Lee and Rickey Henderson as entertaining players that I’ve seen. I suspect Satchel Paige, Dizzy Dean et al would be on the list if it were really MLB history.

JackFrost
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2 months ago

Yeah, Rickey has to be Top Three for sure. Not only entertaining, but the best. He is actually the best player I’ve ever seen in person. Of course I saw Bonds as well and we all know why I don’t put Bonds ahead of Henderson.

At some point I might have Trout above Rickey as the best I’ve seen with my own eyes. Too soon to say that though…

As for entertaining, what about Al Hrabosky “The Mad Hungarian.” He was something else.

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red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

He was on the list.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I like Fletcher. I think Fletcher is entertaining. I can easily list 20 players I think were more entertaining than Fletcher.

red floyd
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2 months ago

Let’s not forget Ozzie Smith

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Those back flips !!!!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  red floyd

Just in my lifetime….

Ichiro
Griffey Jr
Roger Clemens
Roy Halladay
Wade Boggs
Greg Maddox
Rob Dibble
Andrelton Simmons
Tony Gwynn
Mike Trout

…. and so on….

Cowboy26
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2 months ago

Troy Percival. Squinting at the catchers mitt trying to read the sign and find home plate was also entertaining.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago

The Bird, Mark Fidrych was very entertaining during his meteoric rise.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Fractured cheek bone is somewhat common in combat sports. Obviously not baseball. Physically he’ll heal, but mentally it will be tough going back out there I’d imagine.

That also means we was mere inches from taking that directly on the eye or off the temple and having far worse results.

steelgolf
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Wonder if he will consider wearing some sort of helmet in the future. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery.

WallyChuckChili
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Cobbler should give him a call

James
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2 months ago

How does a person become a super member verses a trusted member?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago
Reply to  James

Send the certified check with blank amount fields to:

Masthead
c/o Crashing the Pearly Gates
2000 E. Gene Autry Way
Anaheim, CA

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago

I believe it’s related to the number of comments posted.

eyespy
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2 months ago

Don’t

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Give

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Out

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

The

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Secrets

red floyd
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eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Next, he’ll want to how magnets work

red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Magic.

Twebur
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2 months ago

Most recent medical history…..if you haven’t been to the proctologist in a while, get an appointment

James
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I think I am good as is then thanks

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  James

Then, you need to relinquish you’re trusted status.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  James

Probably the quality of the posts. But I’m joking. I’m sure it’s the number of posts. Soon we’ll all be super members.

red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  James

You have to be bitten by a radioactive baseball player.

h27kim
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2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Sosh?

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

Strawberry was hooked on the “Nerve and Brain” tonic……

red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

Nah, that radiation poisoning only gave him super-managerial powers.

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eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  James

Pictures

James
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2 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Had to know it was coming.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  H.T. Ennis

I think the tragedy that hides behind this thin sliver of racism is the fact that Jack Morris has pretty much always been an asshole. I mean, I wasn’t around for it, but guys I know who loved the 84 Tigers hated Morris because he was just always a dick.

Honestly, I hate the “you said something that caused nothing so now you must lose your career” bullshit, but at the same time I don’t understand how guys like Morris and Goose Gossage etc get gigs talking for hours at a time. They were hot heads and they are kind of jerks. So are guys like Weaver and Percival. Why do baseball teams think it’s a good idea to give them a mic and let them zone out and say what ever pops into their heads? A guy like say Ozzie Smith or some other “fun” guy who loves baseball I get, but a leather ass like Morris? The team’s asking for embarrassment.

eyespy
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2 months ago

A leather ass doing color for a sad case team like the tabbies.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  eyespy

It’s pretty much a recipe for “bored man on broadcast says something stupid.”

FungoAle
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2 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Had to cover their ass before the sponsors pulled out.

James
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2 months ago

It never ceases to amaze me how people in a position such as this guy who mocked Ohtani continuously say stupid shit while showing their true nature and at the same time putting their jobs and credibility into the proverbial waste basket. It’s really nice of you to apologize but maybe it’s time to find another line of work.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Saw the links, don’t even have to scroll down to know what follows….

“I have sniffed faint racism, now I can safely unzip my outrage boner and start deciding what someone’s fate should be! I feel powerful on a Wednesday! PLUS David Fletcher porn! Now I can talk about Ersty, Eck, Fletch and how the game should be played! I am a keyboard Spartan prepared for glory!”

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

Tight jeans…. sharp zipper… no skivvies…. bad day.

red floyd
Super Member
2 months ago

LOLBAH

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
2 months ago

Re Morris, this basically sums up my feelings. He shouldn’t be fired (perhaps suspended a little if the team feels it’s worth it), but shouldn’t the Tigers be in the market to see if there’s anyone better out there? These are coveted positions in baseball!

https://twitter.com/extrabaggs/status/1427906424919662593

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Make sense to me as well.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

my dear Mr. Baggarly, perhaps you have not seen the Angels’ relief pitchers.

BoyWithApple
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2 months ago

If Ohtani is the unquestionable AL MVP because of his ultra rare, never-since-Ruth prowess as a hitter and a pitcher, does that mean that he should automatically win the MVP every year he does well in his dual role? Is he going to win the AL MVP award ten years in a row since the one-way Vlad Guerrero Jr.s of the league just can’t do what Ohtani does?

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

He will not. Exhibit 1 is Mike Trout who missed out on several more deserved MVPs. East coast bias and injuries will assure that Ohtani doesn’t win many MVP’s.

H.T. Ennis
Admin
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

I highly doubt that he keeps this up for more than 2 more seasons.

But he’s proven me wrong before! So he might prove me wrong again!

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Why can’t he? Likely with more off days in the future. Why not, he is a freak……maybe a bullpen roll (part time closer, 8th inning guy), less pitches, less grind. Might need a less violent swing in the future, 30 HRs instead of 50. Another 5 years from now, 2 way players will be more common.

James
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I like your ideas here actually

H.T. Ennis
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Oh I mean doing what he did this season.

Yeah he’ll need the off-days, etc. And with swing changes and bullpen move he obviously won’t be the same guy.

That’s what I meant.

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

He can’t, because you need him to play when available.

matthiasstephan
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

Well, if you put any faith in WAR, Ohtani leads that combined stat. He is also top 10 in WAR if you just consider his batting, is the current HR leader, and nearly has 20 steals. He is only just behind Guerrero in OBP and is leading in SLG. It would be neck and neck for MVP if Ohtani never pitched. But he does.

If he were merely great with the bat and pitched well, I would agree – he wouldn’t be MVP necessarily. But that isn’t the case, at least this year.

James
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2 months ago

Totally against war

WallyChuckChili
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2 months ago
Reply to  James

Yeah, what is it good for?
Absolutely Nothing!
Say it again!

James
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2 months ago

Totally against war

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago

Ohtani leads in HRs as we know. He doesn’t have enough innings pitched to qualify for the leaderboard in ERA but if he did he’d be 2nd in the AL.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

Yes of course he will win every year.

BoyWithApple
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2 months ago

Once a year or so we are reminded how vulnerable pitchers are out there before putting it out of our minds for the rest of the season. Those padded pitcher hats a couple of years ago seemed to have fizzled out. You can’t pitch with a catcher’s mask on, can you? Although, if a quarterback can run around and throw with a helmet on, maybe a pitcher can too. Maybe there just needs to be a batting practice screen in front of the pitcher’s mound. With the increase in the exit velocities of batted balls, it seems like a fatality is inevitable.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

Agreed. There’s a scary incident every year or so. And, sadly, I doubt much changes until there’s a life altering injury.

NCAA softball pitchers wear a helmet. I’d imagine it would be uncomfortable at first but MLB could find something useful. I’d start trying out prototypes in the minors ASAP.

Gorbachav5
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

One of the nice side effects of moving the mound back in an effort to decrease strikeouts would be giving pitchers a little bit more time to react. It might not matter all that much if you move the mound back a foot or a foot and a half, but you never know.

Fleckstein
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

It got him in the cheek, so even the crazy Great Gazoo hat would not have spared him the shot. Not sure what the answer is….

steelgolf
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2 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

Maybe a hockey type helmet with the cage in front which protects the face.I wore one playing hockey when I was in Jr. High and High School.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Plexiglas
(I’m KIDDING)

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Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago

Morris made a failed attempt at something that might have been considered humorous to his generation. I doubt he considered or even realized he was openly mocking millions of people.

That said, if he makes the same “joke” about my wife I’d ask him to step outside for a “conversation.” It is a total dick move.

Hopefully he learns from this and moves on. A one off shouldn’t cost him his job, but in baseball terms he’s down 0-2 in my book and one more dick move from being gone.

BoyWithApple
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I have to confess my ignorance regarding the Jack Morris incident. If I was in England, and a British person said something complimentary about me while using an American accent, I wouldn’t be offended.

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

Why would he have to use an American accent? Couldn’t he just say it in his normal voice?

This is all about the mocking accent. Form over content here is what it is about.

BoyWithApple
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I’m not convinced the intent with the accent was to mock. It seems very possible that Morris just thought he was being silly or cute. Although regardless of your intent, if you find that people’s feelings are getting hurt, then you should be a nice person and drop that schtick from your act.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

Agreed. I rarely try to infer intent into people’s actions. It leads to extreme bias.

In this case he made an attempt at a joke that blew up in his face. A genuine apology would show some character.

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

But doesn’t the fact that he did not make a genuine apology increase the likelihood that this was not simply an attempt at a joke gone
wrong?

If it had only been a sincere mistake wouldn’t one be much more likely to issue a sincere and heartfelt apology instead of the half measure that Morris took?

I mean, the CMA “apology” was almost as bad as the mock Asian voice.

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Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
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I always hold out the hope that people learn and grow. If he didn’t realize his mistake last night but does today, tomorrow, or 10 years from now that’s progress.

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Well, I totally agree with that. And that in a nutshell is why I hate “cancel culture.” It denies the possibility of growth and doesn’t allow people to learn from mistakes without providing life changing consequences.

matthiasstephan
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I would follow that, if ‘cancel culture’ actually resembled the blacklisting of the past. It doesn’t. Cancel culture in the 2020s seems to be a time-out for naughty behavior, and one can only hope combined with the learning Jeff suggests (though I find that rare).

JackFrost
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2 months ago

For some it may be a “time out” but for many others it means the end of their careers! In short, many in radio and TV have lost their jobs permanently for what amount to “missteps.”

I would not compare it to the blacklisting of Hollywood writers like Dalton Trumbo etc, but it is still a social ill in its own right and can escalate into more serious forms of censorship. It is a slippery slope is what I am saying… So in addition to often costing people their careers it sets a bad precedent that could negatively impact what “Free Speech” means in this country…

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eyespy
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2 months ago
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Mostly it shows that he doesn’t understand or except that he did something wrong

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

If you are referencing his fake apology then yes, I would agree with that.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

Do you really think that’s the same thing?

BoyWithApple
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Like I said, I’m ignorant, but yes, those do seem like the same thing to me.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

No disrespect to you, but coming from an equivalent background, I must say that you’d understand better if you walked a mile in their shoes. I appreciate the fact that you are grappling with this. It’s a good thing, my friend.

WallyChuckChili
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2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

When I’m talking to someone from England half way through the conversation I’m throwing an accent and might even end it on a cheerio. How many times have we heard people trying to roll R’s when talking to Latin players? How many times has mang been used when talking about Pujol?. Lasagna with Sosh? Are we getting to sensitive? Should we jump on Jose Mota and his Sayonara HR call?

I’m not saying Morris is correct but are we being a little two faced here?

eyespy
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2 months ago

But Not as call is wrong, because it is used as a baseball term. More uses it wrong.

Sayonara home run, is a walk off home run.

FungoAle
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Media is gonna nail and cancel the poor guy. Pretty soon comedians will be outlawed form lightly touching on cultural differences in the way we behave and act to gain a good laugh which we desperately need in this world at this time.

I’m married to a first generation Asian (Chinese) and she did not see as a big deal, she laughed why people get their tail all bent up between their legs over something like Jack’s remarks. We (she) see and hear much worse in our daily life. Like calling a medical office about a freak’n charge and they don’t take her serious, mistreat, until I get my ass on the phone and put them right back in their spot. I expect this from time to time. I don’t hate them or want them fired. People have fragilities. Just forgive and forget, move on. Let’s not tear down the village.

I’m humbled after living abroad in countries with strict immigration polices and having been a victim of different treatment. I did not cry about, sucked it up. To be perfectly honest there is no free’er country in the world than the United States. Go live somewhere and come back, you will see. Are we perfect, nope.

I’m not a Tiger Fan nor a Jack Morris fan but give the guy a break. I accepted the apology at a light joke and moved on. How about that Spencer Torkelson? He looks like he will really help out the Tiger’s next year. I hope Jack is there to broadcast it.

Gorbachav5
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

The point is that your wife shouldn’t be mistreated and she shouldn’t hear much worse in your daily lives. I don’t think it’s good enough to just shrug your shoulders and say, “Eh, at least he didn’t beat anybody up. We’re good. No need to improve.” We should expect more of people, particularly those who speak publicly for a living, as they can influence a lot of people.

I’m nowhere close to perfect, and my past is certainly not perfect. I’ve made plenty of racially insensitive jokes in my life, definitely as a kid and a young man. But I’ve learned that those aren’t appropriate and I’ve stopped doing it. We should be striving to get better.

James
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2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

I am right in that same boat with you and agree 100 percent. As you mature and learn some life lessons you outa perhaps try and do and say things with more thought behind it. I am still a work in progress 🤷🏼‍♂️

FungoAle
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2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

What do you call an Irishman sitting my the pool? Patty’O Furniture. Am I in deep shit?

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

What am I supposed to do? Give you a vacation?

Mocking with your friends that might see what you are doing is wrong will give you the “Ah man Fungo, what’s wrong with you. Get some class bro.”

Instead of what Jack did on a World Wide Tellecast. All of the USA are his bros in this. Getting some class might not be enough here, he should have been prepared here on the etiquette of the airwaves. He deserves what he gets from his employer.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

People who go to a comedy show and get offended suck. I hope we can always laugh at our differences.

That said I don’t tune into a baseball game hoping to hear my wife’s accent openly mocked. This isn’t the comedy club.

I don’t want him cancelled. I’d like an honest apology and a learning moment. The world is high on righteous indignation and cancel culture but low on learning moments, growth, and second chances right now.

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

And in the corner Jeffy “Jab Jab” Joiner

LET’S GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMNBLLLEEEEEEE

Fansince1971
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2 months ago

Jack Morris definitely goofed but should not be let go for what was, in fact, a pretty minor offense. Replacing ‘R’s’ with ‘L’s’ to imitate Asian-talk to try to be funny definitely crossed the line, but not so much as to warrant punishment beyond the apology he already has given in my opinion.

Gorbachav5
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2 months ago

Jack Morris’ joke was dumb, and did require an apology, but I don’t think it crossed the line into fireable offense territory. That said, Morris definitely did not apologize. “Sorry if you’re offended” is not any kind of apology.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

I so agree with this, the part about his non-apology. He still has not apologized in my eyes. I believe he should resign or be fired. I think this is just the tip of his racist iceberg.

Last edited 2 months ago by MarineLayer
JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Agree that it was a non-apology. Not sure he should be fired over it though.

Maybe a one week leave of absence sends the right message.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

Agree. I don’t think the apology was actually a real apology. More like a CMA kind of thing.

That said, I am not a fan of the heat-seeking, cancel culture crew who is constantly on the prowl for targets who can be “eliminated.” There should be accountability for journalists and broadcasters but the POC police do often go overboard in their critiques.

Gorbachav5
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Morris is a man who speaks for a living and made a clearly racially insensitive joke. He needs to be held accountable for that. Do we need the torches and pitchforks? Probably not, but people also need to make their voices heard so that Jack knows he messed up and the people in charge know they can’t employ people like that without consequences. Where is the line between acceptable criticism and over-the-top, out-for-blood career demolition? It’s hard to say.

Again, I don’t think this particular joke went quite far enough to warrant dismissal, but it’s not a good sign. And the non-apology is shameful. Someone WAS offended. That’s why you’re apologizing. None of this “if” garbage. He’s trying to appease people while abdicating responsibility. I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear something similar from him in the future.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

I wonder if he contract he signed gives the team the authority to suspend him for a week or two? I think that would send the right message and let him know “this can’t happen again.”

Gorbachav5
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I think most teams have a the ability to do that with their broadcasters. We’ve seen suspensions like that before.

I honestly don’t know what the appropriate punishment is for this one, but hopefully it’s made clear to him why it’s offensive and he’s not sitting there thinking that he’s just a victim of the overly aggressive “cancel culture.” His non-apology apology makes me question that, though.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

I think he needs to get out in public and explain his thinking at a minimun, as well as making a real apology, not that BS one we’ve already seen so many times. I’m willing to give him that.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago

Weird to see Fletcher on that list. He seems to be more a wallflower to me. Mr. Bland. Frankly, so long as he hits line drives, I’m good here.

Gorbachav5
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I don’t find it weird at all. Fletcher would definitely be on the top of a list of entertaining players. What about Fletcher is not entertaining? He puts the ball in play, he runs hard, he’s a good baserunner, he makes excellent defensive plays mentally and physically. I’d rather watch a team of David Fletchers than just about any other player in the game.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

Exactly. I love watching Fletcher play. You know who else finds Fletcher as one of his favorites? Vic. That dude sees everybody and loves watching Fletcher hustle, dive, and play like it is 1985.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

It should be Fletcher/Eckstein on the list since Eck is the prototype.

angelslogic
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

^^^^THIS^^^^

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

Entertaining as far a being a personality with outward emotions. Look at Deion Freon, The Bird Fidrych and the Mad Hungarian…these dudes are known for their strange personalities oddities vs baseball prowess. Is Fletcher a solid, low-key baseball player, sure. By baseball talents, Trout is the MAGNIFICENT entertainer but not entertaining from a personality perspective. This is where I am coming from.

Gorbachav5
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I see where you’re coming from. I don’t watch baseball for personalities, so that kind of stuff largely gets past me. Give me a humble player who gives 100% on every pitch and plays baseball like it was designed to be played and that’s the guy I want to see every game.

DowningDude
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gorbachav5

We all agree.

But it was John Smoltz’s list.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
2 months ago

1st line says good morning Angels fans.

Looks at watch…

I think it’s lunch time on the east coast

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
2 months ago

Didn’t get posted till 8am Pacific for some reason.

DowningDude
Super Member
2 months ago

You in Nova Scotia? 8am PDT is still 1100hrs on east coast.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Yea, 11am is pretty lunch to me.

McDonald’s stops serving breakfast at 10am

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

While I do not like the Astros at all, especially Altuve, I appreciate the fact that Springer got out of Dodge and away from the cheating farm. He was and is a talented player who never needed a trash can to to hit. But he now is an over 30 player who is often injured this season.

Having the NYMFY in the playoffs while good for the league is not the team I would like to see make it to the second season.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
2 months ago

What makes you think he “got out of dodge” as opposed to just “chased the money?”

Last edited 2 months ago by AnAngelsFan
Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
2 months ago

All of those guys are talented. They were rated highly as prospects for a reason.

Springer, per the data got the second most trash can bangs on the team. He didn’t “get out of Dodge” any more than Marwin Gonzales did. He just took the most money he could get after artificially inflating his stats for years.

Sad thing is, like Brady and the Patriots, we’ll never know how great that team could’ve been had they played it straight. There was immense talent there, but that will all get overlooked as they were flat out cheaters.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago

To me, all Astros are equal. They all knew what was going on and none of them did anything to stop it.

DowningDude
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Including that cheater Max Stassi. You with me?

red floyd
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I see where you’re coming from, but the Secret Police got *BETTER* after he left the TrashCanStros.

DowningDude
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

THEY ALL KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND DID NOTHING TO STOP IT.

Them’s pitchforkin’ words

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  DowningDude

I just wish a player would one day just say “Yeah, I cheated. Everyone who can cheat cheats. I cheated, I won, go f*** yourselves.” Most of these players get treated as if they did just that whether they try to hide or act sorry or what ever. Might as well just play the heel. I might actually root for that bluntly honest guy, especially if he told a bunch of whiny Doyer fans to suck it.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Are you suggesting Stassi didn’t cheat? There is no doubt Stassi cheated. In fact, he admitted it.

There are three differences between Stassi’s case and someone like Springer. First, Stassi had less playing time on the cheating team. Second, Stassi was a rookie. Third, Stassi actually apologized. (https://apnews.com/article/sports-mlb-baseball-los-angeles-los-angeles-angels-342402ab7c2a081741d5ace4f50f5bf8)

Whether those differences make him less culpable or earn him forgiveness is a matter of personal opinion.

Last edited 2 months ago by AnAngelsFan
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  MarineLayer

Oh boy! I have always loved this one. OK Stallion of Justice, you’re on the 2017 Astros. What are you doing to put a stop to the cheating by all of your best players during a WS run? Please tell me how you will raise your hand and stem the tide of evil in that situation, and how do you think things would have worked out? Especially if you aren’t a star player? I can’t wait to hear your directions for successfully taking a brave stand.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

I hope that Chris Bassitt is going to be Ok for his sake and his family.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago

Ditto, I was not aware this happened until the AM. I review the box scores across all the teams and I was wondering why Bassitt was pulled after giving up 3 runs in the first.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
2 months ago

100% agreed. That was scary. Like not wanting to pitch again scary.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

I’ll say this “I hope the right decision regarding Mike Trout’s playing time is made”. At this point I would prefer that Mike return in 2021 rather than by Sept. first and break again. The best china does not have to be used for everyday eating as it might get broken.

Last edited 2 months ago by GrandpaBaseball
Charles Sutton
Editor
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Do you mean 2022?

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago

I did want this china to set a bunch of all time records, but his health obviously comes first.