Open Thread: MLB Draft Day Three

This is the final day of the MLB Draft. Rounds 11-20, with selection #11 often being the most interesting, as it’s where you might direct bonus pool savings toward a guy with a higher bonus ask, if a team has been saving up based on earlier discount deals.

Selections begin starting a touch after 9am Pacific.

This thread might be for the hardcore farm enthusiasts among us, but it’ll be interesting to see if the Angels continue their raid on pitching, or take some fliers on under-the-radar prep kids and college position players. Some of the more intriguing depth starter options in the torso of the Angels system at present (Kyle Tyler, Ryan Smith, Brent Killam, Cooper Criswell) were 11-20 round selections from recent drafts.

We’ll update the results as they come.


TT: Uh, tl; dr –


Meanwhile, five of the Angels Day 3 selections were highlighted as among the most interesting of the day by MLB Pipeline, including each of their #11-13 picks, Silseth, Albright and Hanley. They were also keen on Albanese, who was a fast riser before elbow troubles and a positive Covid test slowed his roll a bit.


RoundNamePositionSchool
11Chase SilsethRHSPArizona
12Mason AlbrightLHSPIMG Academy (HS)
13Mo HanleyLHSPAdrian College
14Eric TorresLHRPKansas State
15Glenn AlbaneseRHSP/RHRPLouisville
16Brandon DufaultRHRPNortheastern (Mass)
17Mason ErlaRHSPMichigan State
18Nick MondakLHSPSt John’s College (NY)
19Nathan BurnsRHRPOregon State
20Marcelo PerezRHRPTCU

Great round 4-6 value here Chase Silseth, with the #11 pick:

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Another round 4-6 talent with the #12 pick. First prep pitcher for the team., it’s pitchability lefty Mason Albright with a Virginia Tech commitment.

Signable? The Angels had all last night to negotiate, and probably have pool savings for him. Going to IMG suggests a desire to go pro. We’ll see.

Baseball America:


#13 pick Mo Hanley had top-three rounds chatter until undergoing Tommy John surgery this spring. Originally from the Virgin Islands, he’s a very interesting selection in the mid-teens. Inspiring MLB profile about him here.


#14: Eric Torres is an unranked lefty reliever from Kansas State. Draft-eligible sophomore took a big step forward in 2021 with a big boost in K-rate. 58 strikeouts over 39.1 IP, only 9 BBs. He was a strong performer in the Big 12 Championship.

The Angels have had good luck with undersized lefties of late.


#15: Glenn Albanese follows Reid Detmers out of Louisville. Big righty with a big four-seamer, he was used often out of the bullpen as he was rehabbing much of his college career from Tommy John. He transitioned to a starter role this season for three starts, and saw promising results.

ProspectsLive director Joe Doyle really likes what the Angels are doing here on Day Three:

(I do too, fwiw.)


#16 Brandon Dufault is a right-handed relief pitcher from Northeastern. He and his school are well off my radar. Big fastball, another recent closer, past interest from the Red Sox.


#17: MSU fireballer Mason Erla was a huge helium name in 2020, and hit 200+ strikeouts in his college career this spring. His fastball is still massive, but a failure to develop his secondaries and frequent hittability had him taking a few steps back in evaluators eyes this season.

Still, Baseball America called him out as one of 11 “sleepers to watch” in this draft, and he fits the profile of short-stint powerballer that the Angels are harvesting in this draft class:

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#18: Nick Mondak is a small school lefty starting pitcher, big at 6’4″, a name that’s been around for a long time – he was a prep riser in 2016. He’s older now at 23, but had a great 2021 as fifth-year at St John’s, and was working out at Fenway for the Red Sox earlier this month.


#19: Nathan Burns, another righty college reliever with a big fastball. By one estimate, one of the best in the draft:

Slick fielder to boot:


And finally, the Angels draft room does not disappoint: 20 picks, 20 pitchers. 19 of them college.

#20: Marcelo Perez, right-handed reliever out of TCU. But another guy with starter upside:

20 P in 20 picks: Cue up the hot takes, Twitter!


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Eric_in_Portland
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Thanks TT. Last year we had 5 rounds and I think we then signed only 1 guy so its nice to know that won’t be repeated.

Eric_in_Portland
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

thanks. That’s better and now I’m more informed, always a good thing.

HalosFanForLife
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

They need catchers to catch all those bullpens. LOL

Cowboy26
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

What would that make his Mom, Linda then?

DowningDude
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3 months ago

Wonder if we have enough coaches to work with all these guys? Checking the help wanted section on the Angels site. Will be writing a letter of recommendation for gitchogrich as i think he can teach some of these pups a thing or two.

losangel
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3 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

No Tommy John twist please!!!

WallyChuckChili
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I hear Life’s been Good to Joey Walsh

FungoAle
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3 months ago

He’s lost his license and now he don’t drive.

AdelitasBarTJ
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3 months ago

20/20 pitchers, 19 being college arms (all 4th year college arms to boot). Man, talk about a draft that reeks of desperation. This is the professional sports version of playing casino keno. Just randomly picking all floor/low ceiling 22 year old arms, in the desperate hope that 2 or 3 of them will be ready for the bullpen in 12-18 months. Just a weird draft. A draft that is 100% gamble, but then not gambling once on the high floor/high potential upside options that were available with some of these picks. I’m not even happy with our first pick, a guy whose ceiling is Slegers/Claudillo.

TapatioMan
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3 months ago
Reply to  AdelitasBarTJ

2002 is that you?

You forgot to include an Arte diss and a picture that’s unrelated to the topic.

Just playing. But, really, if you genuinely believe Bachman’s ceiling is what you say, a low leverage reliever, then Yawn / DomoRomantico.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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3 months ago
Reply to  AdelitasBarTJ

Toolsy HS outfielders that lettered in multiple sports in the 11th grade is the professional sports version of casino keno. This franchise has been there and done that.

I like the 2021 approach. Time will tell on the success.

Last edited 3 months ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Cowboy26
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3 months ago

Are they from small town east coast high schools like Millville High?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

No. Millville High outfielders have to be fat.

Eric_in_Portland
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3 months ago
Reply to  AdelitasBarTJ

I think your post is silly

steelgolf
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3 months ago
Reply to  AdelitasBarTJ

Where did you come up with his ceiling is Slegers/Claudio? His floor is above Slegers/Claudio. Were you fixating on Kumar Rocker and his 6 million ask?

steelgolf
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I see Bachman as a more talented or refined Canning, but can get through the first 3 innings having only thrown 38 pitches v. Canning 85+ pitches by the time he makes it up to The Angels rotation.

Jeff Joiner
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3 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Interesting. I see him as another C Rod with less injury risk. He might start, he might go 3 innings a couple times a week, he might close. But his stuff will play at the MLB level in some capacity.

steelgolf
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3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I think he is mentally driven to become a starter.

DowningDude
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3 months ago
Reply to  AdelitasBarTJ

😂

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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3 months ago

It would be slightly humorous to find out in 2025 that the experts have rated the 2021 draft as the best over the past decade for offensive talent…..

Brent
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3 months ago

Angels team doctor must be salivating at the thought of all the TJ surgeries he can start planning on scheduling.

TapatioMan
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3 months ago
Reply to  Brent

How dare you

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Brent

Bloodbath 2023!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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3 months ago
Reply to  Brent

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Bl0chead
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3 months ago

If the Major League team falls out of contention before the deadline and they can trade guys like Iglesias(x2), Cobb, Heaney, Watson, et al for some more high-upside arms then they’d be in a very good position going foward.

Last edited 3 months ago by Bl0chead
TapatioMan
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3 months ago
Reply to  Bl0chead

Yea, agreed. Wonder which way they’re leaning.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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If we are dead in the water I’m not against it. Unlike past years, when we were tossing around stupid trade ideas for Upton, some of those guys have value, Iglesias the closer has plenty. It wouldn’t be just a futile gesture to trade some of these guys if it adds to the higher priced core we have quickly.

Hell, if I were a riverboat gamblin devil I’d tell the Iglasiai and Cobb that we want to trade them to a contender and resign them next year, then do it. Then just spend big on the best starter we can get.

TapatioMan
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3 months ago

I’m with you, especially your 2nd paragraph gamblin

TrojanBoiler
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3 months ago

Rec for the plural Iglasiai

Angels22
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3 months ago

Glad to see all these pitchers drafted! It’s easy to sign other position players for big money when they come to free agency.

steelgolf
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3 months ago

All your pitchers are belong to us.

MarineLayer
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3 months ago

The MLB website listed this pick as one of the most interesting of Round 11:

Pick 321, Angels: Chase Silseth, RHP, Arizona (No. 157)
The 21-year-old right-hander has a starter’s arsenal with four pitches that all grade out as about average. He stands out most for his heater that can touch 96 mph. At only 6-foot, Silseth carries concerns over his durability that could push him to the bullpen, where his velocity and overall stuff could play even higher.

HalosFanForLife
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3 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I saw Silseth pitch against Oklahoma. Sat right behind the plate, so had a good view. They lit him up like a Christmas tree, but Johnson stayed with him and he kept them in the game – a game they eventually won. Fastball had a lot of late life and nice run to it. I think he was mixing in 2 seamers. Pretty solid change up with nice run. Oklahoma punished his misses and they hit some good pitches too. He really showed fight – because he had some long innings. I left thinking this guy will have some really good games and could be really good with seasoning.

(Another note, was watching pregame, I thought the backup shortstop was a player – was shocked he wasn’t the starter. After that tournament, he was the starter the rest of the year. Very advanced shortstop actions, but looked 16. when he grows into his man body, he’s going to be a dude. I love catching stuff like that.)

Jeff Joiner
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3 months ago

Nice. With the line between starter and reliever getting more and more blurred, having a few guys who are good for 3 innings and have options is a good thing (if that is Silseth).

Jeff Joiner
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3 months ago

Imagine not having to go through the dumpster pile for pitchers any longer.

Of these 20, we need 2 in the rotation and 3 in the bullpen to make that a reality. Considering how quickly college closers should sink or swim in the minors, that probably means this is Perry’s last off season of dumpster diving for arms.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Your dream…. it’s so lovely…. all shimmery with rays of light shooting off of it and huge globs of glitter and honey and roses dripping off it. It’s beautiful. You’re beautiful. Cause 20 pitching picks…. it’s magical.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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3 months ago

The hair is Chris Paddock, but the teeth are Mr. Ed

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Totally unrealistic wish, but Holy crap can you imagine the crazy talent pile we’d have if Bachman, Bush, Olthof, Hanley, Silseth, Mondak and Albanese all manage to develop into serviceable starters?

I mean, I know for a fact that won’t happen, but look at it this way…. what did the Pirates get back in trade for a guy as vanilla as Joe Musgrove?

Imagine a starting staff with Ohtani, Detmer’s curve, Canning (fixed) and then Albanese, Bush, Bachman, Hanley and Silseth’s fastballs plus Olthof’s wacky stuff…. cause that’s what Perry is doing.

Nick_LA96
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3 months ago

I’m really hoping a lot of these guys sign. I’m no scout nor an expert but this group looks good. Bachman will hopefully do good no matter how we use him. I’m glad we got Bush and I didn’t know about Olthoff, only just yesterday watched the Jomboy video and some more videos of him and he has some cool stuff going on there with the movement on his pitches and hope he can reach his potential.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Nick_LA96

Only a couple of them have anywhere to go but signed.

max
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max
3 months ago

Sandoval? Are you thinking he won’t make it?

FungoAle
Super Member
3 months ago

This draft pitcher focused revolution actually started 4 years ago, it just was pounded into our collective brains this year, take note above, JJ Cooper: 43 of the past 63 Angel sections have been pitchers.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Nope. everything up until right now has sucked, and after none of these guys throw a no hitter in the MLB this season this draft will suck too.

43 pitchers is the way to go though. Not trying to sad sack this, but we need about 50 pitching prospects to somehow equal 4 starters and 4 relievers of quality. Maybe more. This draft was Overstock.com for college arms… perfect for us.

My question, did Perry know he was going to do this when he hired Ray Montgomery?

h27kim
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3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Most of the pitchers drafted earlier came in later in the draft, though. Before Detmers, I’m trying to remember when the last time Angels used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a pitcher? (edit: just realized I forgot about Newcomb, and also found out that Cam Bedrosian was a first rounder! Good times…but we are now going back a full decade.)

Cowboy26
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

yes Cam was from the infamous 2010 draft where Bane & his Super Scouts whiffed on 4 different first round draft picks

Jeff Joiner
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Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yes.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

My question is, how did Billy Eppler force Bane to blow it on 4 first rounders?

Cowboy26
Super Member
3 months ago

I don’t it was Billy. I think it was Harry Dalton.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

I am pretty certain Fred Durst had a hand in it. If it sucks, he probably was involved.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
3 months ago

Billy? Naw – it was all Arte.

losangel
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3 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

I thought Canning was a 2nd rounder.

Jeff Joiner
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Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  losangel

He was. 47th overall pick hence the 47 jersey number.

Cowboy26
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

How dare he take Howie’s number.

h27kim
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Right, and he was projected as a first rounder that fell due to injury concerns. Funny that feels so distant now.

Cowboy26
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3 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

Rumors leaked by Boras’ team after Canning fired him before the draft.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  losangel

Yep, and Kachanivctzitivdiznutz was a third round pick who cheap Arte over paid for…. or paid out of slot.

LAAFan
Trusted Member
3 months ago

Perry you absolute madman let’s gooooo.

ihearhowie3.0
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3 months ago

I know Detmers started in AA but that may have been partly because he was at the Alt-Site last Summer around some higher-end talent.

Where would this many college pitchers land in the system?

Cowboy26
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

The Milwaukee Milkmen?

Jeff Joiner
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Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Will be very interesting to see where they slot the SEC closers after camp next Spring. After closing at Vandy or South Carolina I’d think at least Tri City.

Definitely going to be fun walking around the back fields next year. On top of the Adell/Marsh/Adams trio and the Paris/Jackson duo there will be all these arms.

TapatioMan
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3 months ago

Super pumped!

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
3 months ago

I love this draft. I am not enamored with the first pick, which felt like an overreach with RP and injury risk.

DowningDude
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3 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I read this thinking “man, ten different people have this same hot take” … I then check who wrote it and realize “ahhhhh – same dude wrote this same comment ten times. Ok then ….”

Suggestion – make this comment your signature. That way we remember your valid opinion but you don’t need to keep rewriting it.

losangel
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3 months ago

This might be the most optimistic thread in the history of CtPG!

FungoAle
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3 months ago

MLB.com Notable Picks in Round 3 tagged 5- Angel selections. Suck-it Friedman!

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
3 months ago

Did we just No-Hit the Draft?

John Henry Weitzel
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3 months ago
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Fansince1971
Super Member
3 months ago

This is so awesome

admkir
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3 months ago

A draft of need and not best available makes me happy but now I am interested in Turks overall evaluation of Perry’s draft

Last edited 3 months ago by admkir
benjiface
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3 months ago
Reply to  admkir

As am I! Give us your eval TT!

Cowboy26
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Do you think we will pick up alot of NDFA’s this year with only 20 rounds this year and only 5 rounds last year? Or is Arte still too cheap?

losangel
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Obviously we need more catchers to pair with all this pitching!!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

OMG, not signing ANY NDFAs last year pissed me off… then I saw that hardly any teams signed any. Apparently everyone was just plain down for more school. I’d have thought more MLB teams would have coaxed a bunch of guys out, but there just weren’t that many…. we’ll see about this year wit its huge senior class.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
3 months ago

There was one.

OF: Elijah Greene

I also nominated him to be the new Jordan Serena, but non of our Daly links writers picked it up. He is currently on the Trash Pandas .268 .414 .758

Cowboy26
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

But can they pitch?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Oh dang. I honestly had no idea. The 2020 draft ended. A few days went by, a couple other teams signed some guys and we hadn’t, we bitched about Arte here at CtPG, that was the last I heard about it. Then Spring rolls around, a bunch of new names, I just assumed they were all MiLB free agents, but turns out they were NDFA. That’s cool.

TapatioMan
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Ray-Patrick Didder? Whoa. What a name.