Per MLB.com’s Jon Morosi, Dylan Bundy is drawing widespread interest on the trade market. Morosi writes that momentum has built that Bundy could fetch “at least one high-level pitching prospect for him”.
The Angels aren’t under pressure to trade Bundy, since he’s eligible for salary arbitration in 2021 before becoming a free agent. But there’s enough interest in him now that the Angels could receive at least one high-level pitching prospect for him.
The top starter on the free agent market, the newly-revamped Bundy will hit free agency following the 2021 season and has a 2.58 ERA through six starts in a renaissance showing for the former top prospect.
Every team that is in contention could use him. The present author felt Bundy’s odds to be moved were low, but that is no longer the case.
Sources say the White Sox, Twins, and Braves are among the teams that have engaged with the Angels on right-hander Dylan Bundy.
Our very own Turk’s Teeth previewed what a Dylan Bundy trade could look like, sending Bundy to the Blue Jays for two starting pitching prospects in Alek Manoah and Anthony Kay.
Meanwhile, Morosi also notes that Andrelton Simmons and Jason Castro are prime fits for the Toronto Blue Jays, who have their best player Bo Bichette on the IL. The New York Yankees also could use Simmons, with Gleyber Torres also on the IL for the next six weeks.
The Blue Jays traded for a short-term fit several days ago, when they acquired starter Taijuan Walker from the Seattle Mariners.
I’m more in favor of getting a powerful SS prospect than a pitcher
left side of the 2020’s infield could be 3B Werner Blakely, 2B David Fletcher
IDK like Houston’s and Oakland’s starting infield……..We could and should trade for mercenary pitching like 2018 Boston and 2017 Houston did.
The interesting thing about trading Bundy is that it almost guarantees a trade of someone from the Adell/Marsh/Fletcher group to get more arms here before next season. Something someone like Dombrowski would probably do without blinking.
Nobody asked but: I would like to see an outfield of Marsh, Adames, Adell in a couple of years with moving Trouty to first……
l would like the team to sign Lindor after ’21……l think Robles makes a comeback next season……..If you pitch ten innings in
relief and allow 8 inherited runners to score along with 6 of your own score what are you doing in the major leagues and
l do not care about your spin rate or K potential. (Myers)…….I fthe team really has no game plan and does not have one of the
big name SS on their list then l hope we resign Simba as a less expensive option to a 4 year deal. l really do like him on the t
team……..l prefer Trouty batting third with guys in front of him on base. Simmons batting ninth is a big plus with his speed on
the bases ahead of Fletch and Shohei………Surprize, surprize, surprize is the Miami Marlins and Boston Red Sox, one for
winning and one for losing. Honorable mentions go to the Tigers for winning and the Angels for losing……l’m done.
“Headline: Dylan Bundy Market Heating Up – could fetch high level pitching prospect”
So – if the Angels get lucky and that prospect really develops, wouldnt they be fortunate to end up with a Dylan Bundy in about 3-4 years?
Why wouldn’t a pitching starved team like the Angels just keep what they already have rather than playing roulette on a ‘high level pitching prospect”.
If it’s a two for one we come out ahesd . We are aging and have nobody down below as what we are doing now has not worked.
If you believe the 43 innings this season represents his performance level for the next several seasons, your keep him and sign him to an extension.
If you believe his 2016 thru 2019 seasons represent the real Dylan Bundy, you trade him to the highest bidder.
Personally, I believe he won’t be traded because no one will give Eppler the lopsided deal win he needs. I also believe that in the not too distant future there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth because he wasn’t traded.
You got it right.
For me it’s extension > trade for Bundy. 4TDs in one game is tough to replace.
If we do go the trade route I like ATL (I don’t think Tommy Milone changes their needs). Maybe a one of their pitching prospects who’ve struggled in their early careers. Wright paired with Vodnik or Weigel would be a nice get. I proposed a trade on BTV that included Langeliers but I’m not sure I love it. BTV has some bizarre valuation but I’m not a prospect guru
I’d be all for acquiring Langeliers along with a SP prospect from ATL. Langeliers would immediately be our best catching prospect, as we really have none of note to speak of.
Would you be willing to give up Buttrey?
I’d prefer to give them Heaney, who has roughly the same BTV as Buttrey.
In a theoretical world where trades can be done based on those BTVs, we can fairly easily rebuild our pitching pipeline with a few key trades –
The Adell/Rengifo/lowlevelprospect for Manning/Wentz trade that Jeff postulated
The Bundy trade you listed
Trading Heaney for SP prospects
Yeah, it seems somewhat backwards to trade our current SPs for SP prospects, but both Heaney and Bundy have only a little over a year of control left, which doesn’t really coincide with a contention window.
We have to take one step backwards in order to build a better team. Acquiring 3-4 SP prospects who are in AA or higher, to go along with what we have now (Canning, Barria, Suarez, Sandoval, who are all backend-type SPs, and just maybe Ohtani one day, Detmers, Rodriguez, etc), should hopefully enable us to put together a decent rotation. This offense SHOULD be very good, once the deadweight (Pujols, Upton) is excised.
I actually disagree. I think our competitive window is now. Most of our skilled players will start to trend down as the years tick by. Waiting another 2-3 years to compete may very well leave us with new holes to fill. The only problem now is a glaring need for pitching and I do think we can address that by the beginning of next season. I have a fan post that focuses on a trade with KC I’m working on. Hope to have it done soon
That basically decapitates our staff next year
I am okay with a punt year, so to speak.
Sooo, year 6 of a punt with no pitching?
Not me, lol. We don’t have time for a “punt year.” That was five years ago.
OT: nice fanpost, btw. Are you finished with it? It’s not submitted but looks complete, so I just wanted to check in
Not finished, I copied Jeff’s as a template and was still in the process of editing. I’m only able to use mobile though so it might stay incomplete
It is the same problem as it has ever been. The Angels have never, and will not, commit to a rebuild. The goal has always been to win while rebuilding the farm. It has not worked, but that has been the stated goal. There has never been a commitment to a rebuild.
Trading a viable pitcher in Bundy with a cost-controllable year left for (by definition) question mark prospects is something you do if you are rebuilding. The Angels per Arte and Eppler are not rebuilding. They want to win now due to the Trout ‘window’.
It is for this reason that I doubt Bundy will be traded unless the return is so fantastic that it would be silly to say no. It would have to be a ‘blow me away’ type deal.
Otherwise Bundy stays and they work on resigning him longer term.
One thing I’m kind of wondering is if “buying” teams are all that interested in doing any kind of a trade which hurts their future to “win now”.
It could easily just be a me thing since I’m not that into baseball this year (and the Angels aren’t helping), but the whole year kind of feels like a mulligan. Shortened and weird season, much more room for volatility. Is anyone going to want to give up players that they might need in 2021 and beyond to win in 2020?
Might make it a bad year to be a seller.
Or is it just a me thing?
I’ve had the same sense. I’ll be surprised if there are too many trades involving “serious” prospects. While many posters here seemed unimpressed by the LaStella trade, that seems rather typical of this year.
Yeah, I agree. The LaStella trade felt about right to me.
Toronto, Atlanta, Chicago (Sox), and San Diego have all acquired “rental” players at low cost. That’s preferable in most cases when the caliber of players is similar. But when there’s so much differential between Bundy and say, Taijuan Walker or Tommy Milone, that’s when you’ll see teams kick the tires. It also helps for acquiring teams that Bundy, a 27-year old without a guaranteed contract, is a prime extension candidate.
Getting Bundy is a one (this season) plus one (next year) so if the Halos do not get what they want they lose nothing. Simmons is in a different category in that he is one and done so getting a lot for him is going to be tough.
Yep, agreed.
Good point,
I would look to Atlanta – great team who has had pitching injuries and desperately needs some SP.
In fact – trade Bundy along with Heaney for LHP Davidson + C Langeliers + a PTBNL (low level minor leaguer SP prospect). Davidson is projecting well as a mid-rotation SP, Langeliers was a #1 pick last year and projects to be a very good catcher (we have absolutely none in the pipeline).
And, while it’s fun to win games and see this team do well .. please, start losing again, so we can secure either Kumar or Leiter.
The Braves just acquired Tommy Milone, which puts a bit of a dent in Bundy’s market. The Twins, with a couple interesting prospects in Jhoan Duran and Balazovic, are a pretty intriguing fit considering they need pitching, too.
Are you suggesting the Angels should trade Bundy for a single unproven prospect ( be it either Duran or Balazovic)??
I hope not.
No, where did I say that? Btw prospects, by definition, are unproven.
Yeah, I know. By saying “unproven prospect” I emphasize the uncertainty. Kinda like saying “a green freshman.”
Do it – his trade value will never be higher.
Why? What is the reason? “His trade value has never been higher” is not reason.
Yes it is if you believe he will regress to the 2016 – 2019 version of performance.
Okay, well that is your reason. You believe he’ll regress. The trade value being high alone is not a reason to part ways with him.
We gave up 4 pitchers prospects for Bundy when he was mediocre. Now that he is good, I want 4 top pitching prospects.
Sounds about right to me
I don’t believe any of those lying statistics that say Bundy is good. Eppler acquired Bundy, so it has to have been a stupid move.
Bundy is a blind squirrel acorn for Eppler.
Plz just extend him, surprise us all. The dude’s only 27, come on Angels.
My feeling on this is it would need to be a fantastic offer. Bundy is effective and at times outstanding. Prospects are…..prospects.
But for 2 major league ready top prospects with arms that are not going to fall off, I’d do it. No interest in long term projects. These folks would need to be ready to go.
Agreed. I basically do not want to move Bundy, so would have to be blown away to do so; that is, a trade we clearly win.
I think your description was good. I would want two top guys. If nobody will give it then thanks for calling. We know what we have with Bundy and he’ll help us next year and likely beyond. Why risk losing that production for unproven pieces?
Even that, isn’t the phrase ‘A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush’. Prospects, even ‘major league ready’ are crapshoots. We could hope one of them becomes a good MLB pitcher, and trading a, well MLB pitcher for a chance at one seems … well, odd.
Good point, and I totally agree. That is why I said “two top guys.” Of two top prospects the odds are pretty good at least one if not both will pan out. Because they’re younger you end up receiving more value and “winning” the trade.
That said, I don’t think a team will do that so I am fine with keeping Bundy.
Blow me away Blue Jays
If he has peaked, do it.
We’re at the point where teams have a playbook on him, and we saw that from the Mariners tonight (even though he had an effective outing).
Sounds like you want to get rid of Bundy for scraps. In fact you seem to be chomping at the bit to do so!
Not necessarily! Good players identify problems and make adjustments quickly. It’s natural that he won’t go 7/8/9 scoreless every time.