LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Now We Wait

Nine days until the MLB trade deadline. Close enough to expect deals any minute, but far enough away that most won’t happen this week. No, it will be like watching your food heat up in the microwave. It will seem like it takes forever and won’t happen until you walk away to do something else.

On Monday John Mozeliak said what we all wanted to hear, that this year every option is on the table. That means Reid Detmers, Jose Soriano, and Zach Neto could be on the move.

Turk’s Teeth has done a great job reimagining a stocked Angels farm system as a result of a series of trades. Hopefully Mozeliak’s reality is close to Turk’s wishcasting.

Rumors are already starting to fly regarding several Angels names. I think it is pretty easy to envision Neto in Boston and the Red Sox feel the same.

I played GM and came up with a return package I really like from a fairly thin Boston system.

Speaking of Reid Detmers, I spoke with Reid Detmers in the Angels dugout last Saturday. He was fresh off blanking the Tigers yet still not getting a W. Reid is a very good dude and I wish we could build a winner with him. But it looks like the best way to build a winner is by trading him.

That 85 pitch start by Detmers was a clear sign he is on the move.

Detmers was not my only interview this week. Angels fourth round pick Rylan Lujo spent some Zoom time with me the night before he headed to Tempe. I like watching this kid play and always start rooting for the guys I interview. Rylan is an interesting mix of soft spoken yet intensely driven. He won’t be outworked, has talented bloodlines, and after meeting him I would not bet against the kid.

Part one of the interview.

Part two of the interview.

Speaking of a kid doing well, we might want to head out to the IE to catch Dylan Jordan pitch.

Something I just can’t shake and will try to unravel. The Angels did not go crawling to MLB to distribute their games. Molly orchestrated a buyout of their current network including the broadcast rights to the LA Kings. Yes, the Angels are paying the Kings their TV money. Mozeliak keeps saying the Angels have “resources.” This all seems connected.

Anyway, I’m entirely in wait and see mode through the end of the year. Either Mo puts his stamp on the organization and there’s reason to hope or Arte screws up the last good opportunity he’ll have to resurrect the franchise and maybe not die a loser. It is out of my control, so I’ll just report on what is going on.

There is one way that he’s put his mark on the franchise so far. Let the Grindlinger era begin.

FanGraphs updated their Top 100 prospect list before the trade deadline. Let’s see how many of these guys the Angels can add. Really interesting, the Angels top rated prospect is not one we discuss here.

Baseball and kids is always a great combination. I ran into the Maui Little League team while checking in on Saturday and had a blast watching them on the field for BP thanks to Kurt Suzuki. The dude’s heart is a good as his strategy is bad.

From around baseball:

The Tigers are a fun story to watch. They have a pretty favorable schedule leading up to the deadline. Can they avoid being sellers and make one last run with Skubal?

I’m hoping the Tigers go undefeated for two reasons. One, it would be fun to watch Detroit have a shot. Two, if Skubal is off the table that makes Detmers and Soriano more valuable.

FanGraphs has a nice series ranking players according to their trade value. Here is numbers 11-20 and here is 21-30.

Let’s keep the trade speculation going. Here are what seven bubble teams might do.

Enjoy your weekend and link what I missed. I have family in town this weekend and next weekend and will try not to work much.

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Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Here’s a fun 4:6 trade – just pure fantasy stuff – where the Angels single-handedly fulfill all of the Phillies’ trade deadline needs (RHB that mashes lefties, rotation piece, late relief), and the Angels nab a veteran catcher with a strong glove (but declining bat), a quick replacement for Neto, and three rotation prospects, two in AA and fairly near the show.

I’m not overfond of the Phillies’ farm system, but Miller and Wood are legit additions, and there are a handful of emerging talents at lower levels.

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Turk's Teeth
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Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

You can do this trade straight up as a more plausible 3:3 exchange, with Soriano, Adell and Yates going out for Miller, Wood and Ferrebus.

The sim thinks that is a moderate overpay for the Phillies, but given Dombrowski’s tendencies and the scarcity of starting pitching on the market, it feels like a plausible exchange.

Texan44
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I am not impressed with Neto however, I think he is “serviceable” for 2027 and beyond. My opinion is on a “good team” he would bat 6th with Schanuel batting 7th or so. So many places need to be upgraded to be competitive, I think hanging on to Neto makes more sense.

With 30 teams in the league (no math here) one would think that one prospect would be in the top 30 and 3 in the top 100. So there is no hope from the farm currently. A good farm system needs to provide 4-5 new players each year. So you can turnover your entire roster every 5-6 years.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Texan44

Per Fangraph’s new rankings that just came out, the Angels are at least close to having 3 in the top 100

#55 Hayden Alvarez
#66 Tyler Bremner
#102 George Klassen

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

The Athletic (basically, Keith Law) included Johnny Slawinski in his recently published top 70 list at #58, fwiw.

Grindlinger and TGA are probably on the 100-150 bubble of a number of lists.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 month ago

Not sure wtf happened to this guy and his power.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

The Angels happened

BannedInLA
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1 month ago

Based on nothing other than gut instinct, I suspect that Zach Neto would blossom in Boston.

I think the organizational structure in Anaheim is probably corrupted from top to bottom and that likely contributes to players underachieving. I’m know I’m hardly the first person to say this, but it seems fairly obvious at this point.

grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Hmm, interesting. CtPG organizational loathing has officially reached phrenology-level development.

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BannedInLA
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1 month ago

I was one of the last confirmed “optimists” but, enough is enough.

milehigh
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1 month ago

Updated Fangraphs farm rankings. Angels ranking at #20. Only three players listed in the 50FV column. Alvarez, Bremner, and Klassen.

On Alvarez, “For us, he slides here, a high-priority follow this spring and summer, and an obvious Pick to Click for next year’s Top 100.”
https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/farm-system-rankings/2026-in-season-prospect-list?sortcol=2&sortdir=desc

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

That capsule on Alvarez is from back in January though. I wish the Fangraphs crew had a bit more firepower so they could align their team system analysis with their big board, which they update sooner than the team pages. As a result, the grades are out-of-sync and inconsistent between views.

But it’s great to see that they’ve promoted Alvarez to the top prospect in the system – and a top 100 (#55) prospect in the sport. They’re ahead of the curve on this, but I think his 2026 merits the ranking.

I still think they’re too low on Jordan, and a little over-bullish on TGA. I’d love to see them give a 45+ or 50 on Flores – they were tempted to in the offseason.

TrojanBoiler
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1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

Almost back to where we were before Perry destroyed everything. I think we were #18 at FG when Perry was hired.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Just realized the link you shared has the historical on there. #18 indeed upon Perry taking over.

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
1 month ago

I actually think, contrary to JJ’s estimation, that the Sox have one of the stronger farms in the sport. (FG ranks them #10.)

I see a lot of Angels fans undervaluing Arias, btw. He wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) come in a package for Neto – it’d either be a 1:1 trade or no dice. If I were the Sox, I would certainly blink twice before doing that exchange, as I think Arias has the higher upside in the long view.

Arias is a top three prospect in the sport – he has all of the power of Neto, and better defense, is probably less than a year from his debut. If Neto were in the Sox system, he’d probably get knocked over to second to let the superior defender take short.

For Neto, I’d probably offer the following package, hoping to get a #2 and a #4 for the rotation for six years, plus a strong middle infielder in Godbout, once he returns from hand injury. Godbout fits the contact-heavy profile McIlvaine seems to be cultivating in the recent draft.

(I’m very tempted by Justin Gonzales, but I tend to agree that the visual estimation tends to contradict the current data and results – he’s a big boy that’s likely to be more strength over speed and contact as he ages. Interesting long bet though.)

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grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

If that’s all we’re getting as a deadline deal, a zero-sum sim, then better to wait until the off-season to trade him. With all of his years of control, he’s a stable commodity… unlike an impending FA.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

I dunno – I think I value that package more than you might – getting six years of two rotation pieces and a potential regular on the dirt for Neto seems like a more than fair return that will have greater impact 2-3 yrs down the road when the team might compete than retaining a “stable commodity” on a bottomfeeder club through 2029.

If the team is trading Soriano and/or Detmers, they’re going to have to replace those arms somehow, and this trade would help build the portfolio.

That said, I’m not part of the trade-Neto-now brigade. But if they contemplate it, I think Boston’s system is good pickings, and two rotation arms (plus more) strong value in return.

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grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Missing my point. The only reason to make a deadline deal (vs. an off-season deal) is if you think the deal won’t be there in the off-season, and no other deal will do. Neto’s value will remain stable into the off-season, and there are plenty (presumably) other teams who would also trade for him. If someone wants Neto now, Mo should make them overpay. No reflection on your Red Sox sim. I like Eyanson, too. But would it be the best possible deal over the next nine months?

JackFrost
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1 month ago

Agree with you grichman….. I think in trading an established young talent like Neto you HAVE to get at least one established player back in that trade.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

If the Angels were a .500 team or better, ready to contend for the division or a championship this year or next, I might agree.

I just think “established young talent” (by definition on shorter contacts than near-MLB prospects) doesn’t have as much value for a non-contending team approaching a lockout year as it might to a team whose contention window is near or now. It’s just kind of musical chairs at that point.

I’d rather turn one good MLB player into 3-4 potential MLB players 2-3 yrs down the road than swap talent with equivalent time horizons and aging curves, given the Angels aren’t close to contention yet. Right now, they need to build and broaden the pipeline, and that demands quantity as well as quality.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Agree. Have been asking for this for 8 yrs now. Had it been done 5 years ago we would likely have a young exciting team and a good farm (maybe).

Gotta start somewhere sometime. We have sucked so hard for so long that I wouldn’t mind a few more years of sucking to try to build something.

jco
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jco
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Doesn’t trading for an established player miss the point of these types of trades? Selling teams are trying to trade present value (Neto) for future value (prospects). This isn’t about fixing a hole in the lineup, it’s about building long term depth.

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
1 month ago

Well, teams are more and more reluctant to part with prospects at the top of their systems, and the trade deadline tends to manufacture a sense of scarcity that elevates MLB player values.

Right now, the value of Neto and Detmers is higher than it’s ever been due to the number of teams competing for a ’26 championship, and the lack of impact arms and infielders at play. This very much is a sell-high, buy-low cycle. Detmers has been as low as ~20 in the BTV sim within the past 12 months, and now he is valued 3x that. This is probably peak value for both players.

Meanwhile, Eyanson, if he debuts and see some success, will like double or triple in value in short order. Right now his value is only half that of Detmers – it’s a good buying opportunity.

In short, I’m seeing your point exactly, but we just may disagree on market value and timing. I don’t think the pre-lockout offseason is going to be a seller’s market. Does anybody disagree?

grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Yeah, the lockout complicates things. Minus that, the grim free agent pickings (really, really grim, right?) I think will make for a favorable sellers market.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Coming into the season, FG had them almost 50 deep, with a dozen guys with 45 grades or better. I think there’s also a lot of raw material that is likely to emerge in the next year or two – they’ve done a good recent job of advancing players in waves.

IMO, of course. But here’s FG’s gloss on the system:

“Needless to say, Boston has assembled one of the best farm systems in the game….We need to start treating the Red Sox as one of the premier pitching development groups in the sport…. This isn’t a one trick pony system just drafting arm strength or trying to give everyone a sweeper. They’re succeeding with different flavors of pitchers and are able to help guys implement a variety of tweaks. Late-round picks and small-dollar signees are all over this list, a reliable sign of a healthy system….All layers of the pipeline are humming.”

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yeah, the Philly system is weak. Definitely the right word for that one. (Not meaning to nag you on Boston’s system, btw, they’re just one of 4-5 teams whose recent drafts I’ve really admired.)

I posted an Adell trade to Philly earlier this week, and it didn’t get too many golfclaps from CtPG Guy. 🙂 But I think a flyer on Moises Chace – lots of upside, but rehabbing from injury – is a plausible return. You’re not going to get a ton for Adell, but I think reuniting Jo with Marsh there is the right play for him as a player. I bet PHI would get the best of him.

What was your Brewers trade? Here’s one for Soriano I posted yesterday.

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HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I would love to pull off Made. I think he is going to be a star. I think Brewers would never do this – but don’t blame me for trying.

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago

In a heartbeat. basically paying $27M for the 1st 3 years of Made.

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steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I would probably pull the trigger on that deal. Boston gets the shortstop they need now for their division run, and the Angels get the future pitching they need.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago

These Neto-to-Sox sims make me want to pull my hair out. Marcelo Meyer? F*ck that noise. If they want our controllable impact-bat shortstop, they can pony up Franklin Arias, who’d presumably be blocked anyway. Right?! And Eyanson.

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milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Did you mean Franklin Arias? He is a shortstop. I don’t think he is blocked by Trevor Story, imho. I think the Red Sox would move on from Story. To be fair, Story is injured but I don’t think he will play like his glory days again. I don’t see Arias being moved nor Eyanson for economic reasons let alone how good both could become.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

Blocked by Neto, if such a deal went down.

grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Too Arte to pay for the sim subscription but I wonder what it would show for a Neto -> Arias/Eyanson trade.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago

HalosFanforLife did this a couple days ago. Sorry, didn’t copy the image right but this should link to it.
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Oh, it worked.

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SD19
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1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

Artie would do this cause he’d say a story is the headliner!

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

Ah that’s edifying. But I wonder if the simulator fails to add the desperation tax of deadline deals? For example, the notorious Giolito trade. I have a sneaking suspicion the sim was unfavorable to us.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If I’m Boston I only do a trade like this if I think Neto is the guy to get me to the WS. Just won 14 games without the guy who is tied for second in MLB in strikeouts. Is Neto the path to WS? I can’t see that unless Boston gets Neto to be a hitter instead of a swinger. If Neto gets there and doesn’t change the fans will let him have it. And let Drombrowski have it.

I’m sure I am missing something. I just don’t see the trade from Boston’s POV.
And what would the Angels do with Story’s contract? Pay him to be injured and not what he was like Rendon?

toad2065
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Dave Dombrowski is known for trading the future for the present, however, he works for the Phillies now.

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago

I know most of y’all hate the NBA and LeBron, but LeBron going to Philly is crazzyyyyyyy

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Cleveland breathes a sigh of relief.

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

Well they don’t have to worry about contending for a title

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I can cheer for more Lakers again. Totally respect LeBron’s game (third GOAT) – just never liked him.

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BannedInLA
Legend
1 month ago

Remember that time he fabricated a “hate crime” with supposed graffiti on the side door leading to his backyard and when the cops arrived, there was no graffiti at all.

He’s a bigot. A completely privileged one at that.

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I did not recall this story so just looked it up.

The Los Angeles Police Department told NBC News it responded to a call that someone had spray-painted a racial slur on a gate leading to James’ property in the Brentwood neighborhood of Los Angeles at 6:44 a.m. PT (9:44 a.m. ET) on Wednesday.

A source familiar with the incident told NBC News the “n-word” had been spray-painted on the gate.

The slur was painted over by the time officers arrived, authorities said. It was not immediately clear when it was first spray-painted on the property.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lebron-james-los-angeles-home-vandalized-n-word-graffiti-n766651

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Calling him a bigot is… i don’t even know how to respond. I disagree completely

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Love LeBron. Love the Lakers. Wish him the best.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Love Walter’s closing the door on LeDrama. It’s been a happy off-season as a Laker fan.

Maxey, Brown, LeBron, Embid and Edgecomb. That’s going to be interesting to see if Nick Nurse can make it work. Philly really should move off of Embid.

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I have no idea how Philly makes it work but great players usually figure it out.

LeBron banking on Embiid’s knees instead of teaming up with Giannis is a dubious decision imo. On paper Philly is loaded. I love Bron and want to root for him in his last year and it’s harder with him choosing Philly (screw their fanbase)

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grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I don’t understand, will never understand, the “LeDrama” criticism. Are we not Kobe fans? Did Kobe not generate massive, near-unprecedented levels of drama? To wit: I don’t remember LeBron entangling himself in a year-long criminal legal case while wearing the purple-and-gold. LBJ crimes (performative self-possession, eerie confidence, main character syndrome) are benign by comparison and largely justified given the results.

Anyway, we digress!

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago

No major controversies in 30 years being in the spotlight. He was crowned the Chosen One in HS, lived up to and exceeded every imaginable expectation.

So what that the greatest, or 2nd greatest, basketball player wielded power like nobody had seen before. Don’t get me wrong, I understand why people do find Bron hella annoying, but to your point it’s all relative. One the 🐐 athletes ever and it’s been an absolute privilege watching him display his greatness for 24 years.

FungoAle
Legend
1 month ago

Great player and has always been out of the public nightlife. Kudos for that but it boils down to that I personally don’t like his persona and his hand crafted agent/agency. Just too much drama and passive aggressive behaviors.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yeah 🖕🏽 him and klutch sports. All of a sudden he can take less money, what a crock of shit

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago

He literally delivered you a championship! I’m a Clippers fan and I argue against those who discredit the “bubble” championship.

Lakers fans are a funny bunch

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

There are many of us who don’t think that Disneyland ring was legit. Just look at what he delivered the next 6 years, nothing. He wanted to be the highest paid while forcing the lakers to make trades or sign free agents who were klutch employees.

Pineapple12
Legend
1 month ago

Lakers were 49-14 before Covid halted the season and were objectively the best team in the league. I get it, you hate LeBron, but that team was an absolute juggernaut supported by both analytics and the eye test. Bubble or not, the ring was legit and saying otherwise is nonsensical rooted in your disdain for one man.

I’ll argue all day about NBA, I live and breathe this shit lol. Respectfully, you are wrong 🙂

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YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yeah, that break and no traveling didn’t benefit one of the oldest players in the league much. I dislike LeBron as a laker, not as a human being, cav, or when he went to the heat so hate is a very strong assumption. His tenure was so bad the buss family couldn’t even stick around.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

JJ embedded the word “oomph” into an article. Got to love it.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

I nominate “hootenanny” as the next word to embed. Any other requests out there? It would be like having a free style rapper in our group.

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milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I nominate barnburner which is not that special of a word but maybe goes ok with hootenanny and is actually two words. But double props for using hootenanny and barnburner in the same sentence.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
1 month ago

I’m kind of partial to anisotropism myself.

AngelsFanInHell
Super Member
1 month ago

I hope the Halos give Detmers and Soriano better run support for the rest of the season. Hopefully Adell amd Neto can figure out how to strike out less.

No, I still don’t believe that any trade that will actually benefit the team long term will actually occur. Hope I’m wrong.

I have to say that I do enjoy reading everyone’s comments about trades and the draft. I have learned a lot about baseball this season. Thank you!

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Angels really didn’t mess around with under slot until after the 10th. They pulled money in late rounds to give sweeteners to the top of the board. The MLB draft is fascinating for sure – but maybe more an NFL system would be more equitable for all. One year some politicians will challenge the whole system and perhaps pull their anti-trust exempt status. That US kids have to compete against lower cost International players under an entirely different set of rules is going to be challenged some day too.

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Turk's Teeth
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Legend
1 month ago

They tried the Perry approach with one teen in the 15th round this year, but it doesn’t look like they have enough pool savings to pull it off, and that kid is likely headed to Oklahoma.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I see the Guardians haven’t signed Sims yet either. Let’s see if OU gets the double windfall.

JackFrost
Legend
1 month ago

I think Neto to Boston is realistic…. and the kids you present here Jeff are intriguing. But as I always say when you give up a proven commodity you have to get proven in return… We have to demand at least Rafaela from Boston in a package with Eyanson and perhaps the single A player Azocar. Those two kids alone are not enough. Hopefully Mo doesn’t get screwed by giving our guys away at a steep discount.

A guy I feel sad about trading but think it might be time to part ways with is Jo Adell. All the tools were there when we drafted him, and the power is enticing to keep, but at the end of the day not being able to hit right handed pitching is just too big of a deficit. A more stacked roster can afford to platoon Jo down the stretch and in the playoffs, but as an everyday outfielder for us there is just not enough production.

Right now I would not trade Soriano unless we got a proven 1-2 starter back, which is not likely to happen, so I say keep Jose. Detmers I am more on the fence… A good package of three midling prospects or two more highly rated minor leaguers might do the job there …

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Turk's Teeth
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Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Just for fun, Jack, here is your package in the sim.

Fair to say that other teams and evaluators don’t value Neto like you do. Rafaela has put up more WAR than Neto over the past two years, and the Sox control him for 3-4 more years than they would control Neto, on an obscenely inexpensive contract. Rafaela is the more complete and valuable player, and his contract is one of the biggest bargains in the MLB.

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JackFrost
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I have to be honest, I am not a big fan of the trade simulator. I feel that it overvalues prospects. Neto’s right-handed power would play well in Fenway with the Green Monster, and a power-hitting shortstop is a nice thing to have…Plus, Boston needs that position.. Maybe they would not include Eyanson, but I think there’s a good chance they would bite on a Neto for Rafaela and Azocar trade…

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I offer the trade simulator as a third-party benchmark. It’s basically trained on decades of recent player trades, so it reflects better than subjective individual takes what teams have historically received for various player archtypes. It’s hardly infallible – but it’s more reflective of the totality of player exchanges than you or I can ballpark with gut or our human memory banks.

BR currently rates Rafaela the #4 position player in the American League per WAR. They rate him the top defensive player in all of baseball.

I strongly disagree that Boston would trade away their best player, who they have under contract for 6-7 years and who fits their team to a tee, to receive a lesser player for 3 years, on the premise of contending this year. That would completely defeat the point of adding to their offense.

But who am I to get in the way of a fan and his dream?

JackFrost
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I would strongly disagree that he is Boston’s best player. Quite clearly Sonny Gray and Willson Contreras are their # 1 and # 2 whichever order you’d want to put them in…. and even though he’s having a down year this season I suspect that most talent evaluators or scouts would put Jarren Duran ahead of Rafaela as well, and maybe even Abreu. SO, at best Rafaela is their 4th best player, and maybe their 5th. And Neto is our BEST player, even though I am not a fan for a variety of reasons. I do understand his value.

And yeah, Cedanne is good, that is why I want him on the Angels, but Zach Neto has more tools than him and I tend to agree with BannedinLA that Neto would flourish in Boston under their system…. I would not want to be on the end of a trade that has us getting two prospects who fizzle out in the minors and never contribute to the Big League club while Zach becomes a perennial All Star in Beantown….

I know you are a Red Sox fan so you probably like the idea of scalping the Angels, but Angels fans do not want that, I can guarantee you.

And in the end, sorry Boston, but you have to give up something to get something…. the Padres had to give up James Woods to get Soto… I am not saying Neto is Soto but you get the point….

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Pineapple12
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1 month ago

We still have so many days left before the deadline and because we’re uncompetitive the days are really dragging.

Someone we aren’t talking enough about in trades is Zeferjahn. He’s controllable thru 2030 and has been one of the best relievers in the game for the last 2 months. Here are his absurd stats since June —

21.1 innings
1.27 ERA
0.94 WHIP
55% K rate

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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

The five years of control is what makes Zeferjahn such an edge case. Is he at peak performance, or is he actually improving?

The thing is – Zeferjahn – cheap, controllable, at a position of need – is exactly the sort of player you’d hope the Angels would bring back in quantity at the deadline.

TrojanBoiler
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

How much value does ZJ carry in the sim?

5 years of control is crazy

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1 month ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

2.8

The sim values all of the Angels young BP arms similarly, hovering around 3. Silseth, Bachman, Natera Jr.

I tend to think the sim is a little low on relief talent at the deadline – we’ve seen teams overpay quite a bit in recent seasons. But relievers are so friggin’ volatile, I understand the conservative approach.

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Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I am always selling high on relievers. This could be the start of Zeferjahn realizing how to command his pitches and become a dominant bullpen figure. I’ll let another find that out.

I would want a juicy package in return.

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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

A package like Zeferjahn, Lugo, Kavadas and Vargas? 🙂

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I think we can do a smidge better for 5 years of Zef than 1/2 a season of 37 year old Luis Garcia!

Btw, that really was one of Perry’s better moves 😂

Texan44
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1 month ago

I know nothing about the Angels scouting department but l hope they have done their job to let the front office know “who” in the low minors looks promising. That is all I expect the Angels would get for the entire roster.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

He just needs to call people here.

steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I would say that he will trust the scouting dept. like he did for the draft.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

He has no other choice at this point.

JackFrost
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

He admitted himself recently that he still “doesn’t know” our players, and by this I think he meant our MLB rostered players ! This does concern me a little in terms of his ability to orchestrate trades that are beneficial to this team and not just a fire sale. I also can’t see him letting McIlvaine become the GM and run everything… drafting guys is one thing but trading the Big League players is another matter…. There are alot of subtle negotiating skills involved that Joe presumably would not have…

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grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The only rationale for pulling the trigger on Detmers/Soriano/Neto before the deadline (vs. the offseason) is exploiting some other org’s desperation, i.e they’re desperate for a playoff push and overpay. Otherwise, as controllable talent, they should have just as much value over the winter, and you have more time to evaluate the return.

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

Thanks for linking that Fangraphs Top 100 prospects Jeff. This hurts:

#3 Kade Anderson
#8 Seth Hernandez
#27 Liam Doyle
#44 Ethan Holliday
#45 Gage Wood
#51 Avia Arquette

All rated higher and all drafted below their draft classmate Tyler Bremner (#66)

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

This is not to say that there couldn’t be a Bremner resurgence but as it stands now this is quite a Brummer!

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

This was all on Perry

smithy610
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Kade is the one that hurts the most. He’s right there! I can imagine DiPoto probably couldn’t believe his luck when he didn’t hear “The Angels pick Kade Anderson”

Or maybe, he could actually believe in his luck and Jerry wasn’t too surprised at all

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

I sure wouldn’t mind Hernandez too. That equally hurts.

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1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

I’ve heard he was very surprised. But I’ve also read that Dipoto was planning to take Bremner at #3.

MH252525
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1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

I think of this as a lost season for Bremner and Shores. Both were doing ok to well before they got that sickness. I’m sure them being out for as long as they were with that means they weren’t 100% when they came back. I’m willing to give them a pass until next year.

MH252525
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1 month ago
Reply to  MH252525

And also Doyle and Arquette haven’t even had good pro debuts at all.

grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Seems like Doyle is getting by on reputation at this point. Numbers don’t warrant a Top 50 ranking.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I agree Jeff – he looks more max effort than just about any pitcher you will see. But when I saw him against Vandy – he looked pretty special.

Charles Sutton
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

“Missing Arm” Doyle

milehigh
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1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

The Fugitive Doyle.

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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Doyle was Fangraphs’ SP1 (favorite pitcher on their board) last year. I think they’re giving him more rope before they aggressively demote him based on a few months in AA.

But compared to other prospect media, FG tends to rank prospects higher based on future ceiling than on current results. And that’s completely defensible, because current results often are not remotely predictive when it comes to young prospects.

Seaver King had a rough debut, with a 88 wRC+, last year, though the underlying batting ball data seemed promising. This year he’s sporting a 134 wRC+, is in AAA, and nearing an MLB call-up.

Recency bias is a thing to avoid in prospect evaluation, in my experience.

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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’m with you – as you’ll recall, I was hugely bearish on Doyle that draft. Law and Longenhagen were both more bullish on him than I was comfortable with.

I put my chips on Seth a month out from the draft, and then on Kade after how well he posted in Omaha. Those were my guys. I thought Eyanson would go in the comp round between 1 and 2, and he fell into the Angels’ lap in both the second and third round. He was another one of my guys. Felt confident then, and justified now.

Have tried to be graceful and generous about the Bremner pick, but didn’t like the combo of Bremner+Shores in the first two rounds based on what was on the table.

Doyle still looks like a Bachman pick to me – a late reliever you’re hoping some copious quantities of faery dust is going to turn into a frontline weapon. Still waiting…

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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Witherspoon has had a rough debut, and hasn’t looked the player he looked in his junior season.

grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  MH252525

Shores at least appears back on track. Effective if not excellent on Sunday. https://www.milb.com/gameday/canadians-vs-dust-devils/2026/07/19/819130/final/box

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

We all knew what a terrible pick it was. I don’t know why Minasian thought he was smarter than everyone.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

In all fairness, I still think this will remain to be seen by the body of work by Bremner, Slawinski, Haley, Mitchell.

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

I dunno. I’m kind of torn between having 4 B students on one hand vs. having one A++ student. Sure, there’s a chance that some or even all of the B players turn to A-, A or A+ even. But why take that chance when you already have the A++ kid in front of you?

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