LA Angels Tuesday News Crash – Crashing the Pearly Gates

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49 minutes ago

Jack Salmon, Tim’s nephew who was drafted in the 18th round, is respectfully not doing interviews right now.

I share close friends with the family and reached out through them. Jack doesn’t want extra attention due to his name. Just wants to get to camp and play.

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MarineLayer

1 hour ago

Do the Doyers make these names up and send fake players to Colorado?

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Turk's Teeth

2 hours ago

A rare swap on Baseball Trade Values that earned approval from both fanbases. I think this is probably the best the Angels could do for Reid, and it’d make a huge impact on the positional pipeline in the upper minors.

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Fansince1971

2 hours ago

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Yes and yes. Oh and yes to this trade.

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Turk's Teeth

2 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

I love it so much, it can only be fantasy, no?

LHP Root could be Detmers on the club in two years, you know you’re going to get a regular from one of Hope or Tibbs, and the latter is probably playable now, and Harlan is a fun lottery ticket the Angels don’t have much of in their system.

This trade makes too much sense. The Dodgers even “win” it on BTV value, and they retain their two top prospect bats in De Paula and Sirota. It’s glancing pain they can easily absorb, given the depth of their system.

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MarineLayer

1 hour ago

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I would love this.

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DMAGZ13

1 hour ago

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I would take that in two seconds. Knowing Perry, he would’ve just swapped him for Bobby Miller and Alex Freeland

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AngelsFanInHell

2 hours ago

This place is going to be so depressing when nobody is traded. We’ll need to put a few of you on suicide watch.

There will be no proper youth movement until the ArteChrist sells. Acceptance is such a good step to be in right now. I feel at peace.

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steelgolf

2 hours ago

SELL, MORTIMER, SELL!!!!!!

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Fansince1971

4 hours ago

JJ has suggested that there may be a new sheriff in town and that MO actually has some control over player-personnel decisions.

I think there will be a significant test of that hypothesis at the upcoming trade deadline. There is no reason that any GM with a desire to improve the Club long-term would keep the tradable pieces as long as there are decent prospects on the table. This team is not going to “compete” as built and needs to be broken down and rebuilt. If this does not happen at the trade deadline, I think the most likely explanation would be Arte not allowing Mo to make the trades. This would be just a continuation of the “compete” narrative that we have heard for the last decade-plus.

If Mo is allowed to make the trades and focus on rebuilding the minor league system, then I may start believing that there is change in the air.

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Jeff Joiner

4 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

This is the trial period.

Either Arte lets Mo put his stamp on the organization or Mo walks. We’ll know at the end of the year.

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TrojanBoiler

3 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

One caveat to that is Mo did talk a bit in his mid-game interview about the value of our tradeable players. He mentioned that all of the legitimate trade pieces have multiple years of control left which can complicate the valuation of what they are worth. Also mentioned that these types of players typically get traded in the off-season whereas the deadline is mostly rental players.

I took that to mean that he recognizes we should be getting extra value back in return. If teams aren’t offering enough, he may not be willing to trade.

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Roy Hobbs

3 hours ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

True. But since none of the players we would be trading have contracts after this year, they are by definition, all rentals.

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TrojanBoiler

1 hour ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

Rental to me means impending free agent. None of Detmers, Soriano, Neto, or Adell meet this definition.

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Roy Hobbs

1 hour ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Actually they do. They are under club control with no obligation to keep them.

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Roy Hobbs

1 hour ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

But I understand what you’re saying.

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Jeff Joiner

2 hours ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Mo is also a GM who needs to play the game and make sure he publicly states the right things. He wants to get good value for his players. Best way is to act like he might not trade them.

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JackFrost

2 hours ago

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I was glad to hear what Mozeliak expressed in his interview with national media yesterday ; when asked about trading key assets he stated that he didn’t feel a full rebuild was necessary and added that “the real answer is what are we getting in returns (.)” I was happy to hear that he has a balanced and intelligent approach instead of like so many here who are frothing at the mouth to “trade everyone” or “sell it all.”

He is going to take a rational approach, not concerned with throwing fresh meat to the fanbase but rather making only those moves where we either clearly win or at minimum get equal value back, not just high end proven player for 2-3 midling, unproven prospects….

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TrojanBoiler

1 hour ago

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Completely agree. I loved what he said about trading these types of players at the deadline is atypical and we want to ensure we get proper value back.

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Turk's Teeth

2 hours ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Which is frankly what he should say, and what he should expect. The other side should hurt a little in these trades, as there’s an urgency to win.

There’s some logic to waiting until the offseason to trade Soriano and Detmers if the packages aren’t right, as all of the 2026 draftees will be then tradeable after the WS is over.

There was a lot I liked in St Louis’s draft class, for example – more than what I currently like in their system. I bet Mo could trade well with his old franchise, and guys like Trevor Condon, Tegan Kuhns, Dee Kennedy, Randall, Williamson would look good in the Angels’ system.

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RexFregosi

2 hours ago

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the real answer is what are we getting in returns

but if nothing is done CtPG will bugger out

the real answer is what are we getting in returns

It takes two to tango. I trust Mo, and like Reid, Zach and Soriano.

Adell? He can just be DFA’d at this point so doesn’t matter

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Turk's Teeth

2 hours ago

Reply to RexFregosi

If he does nothing, I hope it’s with an intention to stay through winter, and wait for the right player exchange packages to emerge.

I agree that doing nothing isn’t really an option, but timing is everything. And perhaps he can convince Moreno that he’s willing to keep 1-2 of his toys around, as long as Moreno invests in free agency next year. (Unlikely given the lockout, but we’ll see.)

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milehigh

1 hour ago

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Arte signing anyone in the offseason does seem unlikely. Will be an interesting offseason. Last time there was a lockout Arte sent lots of people packing. If there are rumblings about that happening again, I can’t see Mozeliak staying at all. Not sure about Molly. She worked hard to get a consultant who is well respected. If Arte reverts to his past I wonder if Molly sticks around. What would be the point?

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TrojanBoiler

1 hour ago

Reply to RexFregosi

but if nothing is done CtPG will bugger out

This is the one thing we all know to be 100% true about the upcoming deadline lol

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grichmanpoorman

4 hours ago

With even Rhett “House Scribe” Bollinger framing his game coverage in trade-value terms, I guess it’s a fait accompli. I’ll miss Soriano the most. It was a long, turbulent, exciting road with him, from obscure prospect arm to Rule 5 write-off to TJ reclamation project to rotation stud. I’ll miss his ridiculous knuckle-curve (one of the game’s great wipeout pitches, when it’s on) and composed, cool-ass mound demeanor. Wish it could have ended differently. Wish there were more points of light over the last 10 years of Angels fandom, less disappointment and regret.

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Jeff Joiner

2 hours ago

Reply to grichmanpoorman

A knuckle curve doesn’t even sound like it should be possible. Love that pitch, too.

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TrojanBoiler

1 hour ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Apparently the name has nothing to do with a knuckle ball and is a reference to the grip used where one of your knuckles is pressed against the ball.

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milehigh

5 hours ago

In other news, the Angels have a pro scout. Or had.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7459490/2026/07/21/angels-scout-fired-rockies-film-baseball-spy/?campaign=19001728&source=athletic_thewindup_newsletter&userId=27252571

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Pineapple12

5 hours ago

Woah 💣👀👀

6. Zach Neto, SS, Los Angeles Angels

Chance of being traded: 30%
Rest-of-season impact: High
Years of control: Three more years after 2026

The buzz: The Angels are at the very least listening, which is more than they’ve done at past deadlines, and 25-year-old Neto is an awfully intriguing option when Jeremy Pena’s and CJ Abrams’ availability at shortstop is in question.

The biggest curiosity in the industry right now is just how much Angels owner Arte Moreno will allow interim general manager John Mozeliak to maneuver — and if the full rebuild the team needs can start to happen under a temporary employee. Mozeliak is a veteran of trade deadline navigation and the winner of a World Series in St. Louis, so he’s capable of executing any deal. And the return on Neto would be enormous. Four-win shortstops are not easy to come by, and Neto has consistently proved himself just that — with room to grow.

The scouting report: Neto has been quietly very productive, the shortstop hitting ninth best in the league over the past three seasons (15% above average at the plate), while ranking fifth in homers (68) and stealing 69 bases.

He’s a solid runner with a good arm but comes up a bit short in defensive metrics for his range, especially going up the middle (minus-16 runs in that area over the past three seasons).

Neto’s spot on the power/contact spectrum and his range up the middle are the only two questions for teams to think about when acquiring him for his three-plus remaining control years.

Best fits: Boston, Atlanta, Toronto, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, New York Yankees

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49082474/ranking-mlb-trade-deadline-candidates-top-100-skubal-chapman-peralta-arraez

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Roy Hobbs

5 hours ago

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We should move all 3. I actually don’t think it will make any difference in the team’s performance although it might improve it depending on what we get back. Hard to believe we could be any worse than having the worse record and the only place to go is up.

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Pineapple12

5 hours ago

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@TurksAI
How many top 100 prospects do we think we can get back for Neto, Detmers, and Soriano?

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HalosFanForLife

4 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Not Turks – but it really depends based on BTV. For Neto for instance, Red Sox could give us Ayanson and Azocar – and still need to throw in a sweetener. But if we wanted Arias – we’d need to throw in a sweetener. On paper that is. The number 100 prospect – Murf Gray is only 9.3 BTV and number one is Made with 76.8. We currently have Neto at 61.4, Detmers at 59.3 and Soriano at 41.

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Pineapple12

3 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

Very helpful, thanks!

So depending on the teams willing to trade with us and their prospect pools, anywhere between 4-10 top 100 prospects? Sign me up.

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HalosFanForLife

3 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I’m going to say 6 or 7. 😂 (Stupid thing will never die)

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steelgolf

2 hours ago

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I drive my 10 yr old crazy with that. She tells me “nobody says that anymore”. 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

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JackFrost

2 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

I think it goes 6,7 without the or….

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Turk's Teeth

2 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

They should get 5-6 for the lot, if they’re maximizing value.

Each of those guys should bring back 1-2 top 100 guys and some extras, with Soriano perhaps having the weakest case. But SP is scarce in this market, so values should be high.

Quantity v quality though – there are hypothetical 1:1 swaps that would just be about extending the Angels timeline (say, Detmers or Soriano for Anderson or Hernandez, or Neto for Franklin Arias, straight up) that are fun to contemplate.

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JackFrost

2 hours ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

Top 100 ? That’s all ?? I mean, I would be extremely disappointed if we traded Soriano and only got two guys ranked 50-100 and no proven player who is an MLB regular…. I think with Soriano, Detmers and Neto you have to at least get one plug-in regular as a starter unless you are getting a guy picked in the First Round (a First Round talent) coming back…. At least that is how I would look at it….

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Turk's Teeth

2 hours ago

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Look at the last 20 years of trading – how many trades brought back 3+ Top 100 guys in a single exchange? Precious few. It takes Skenes or Ohtani level talent to expect 3-4 top 100 guys for one guy. All of the Angels trade chips fall into the “very good” bucket, not the “great” or “exceptional” bucket.

Getting, say, three players back for each guy, with 1-2 of those top 100 prospects, is a rational expectation. If one of those three players is MLB-ready, all the better.

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2pints

4 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I can’t see Arte ok’ing a Neto trade. Arte loves position players, and he knows he needs players to put on banners and billboards. I think he sees Neto as a keeper.

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TrojanBoiler

4 hours ago

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This is probably a good assessment. I will be shocked if Neto is traded.

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HalosFanForLife

3 hours ago

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Those shorts have to go. Can’t stand them.

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YOUknowulovetheIE

4 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Neto to 2nd would solve that range up the middle issue, no?

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DMAGZ13

6 hours ago

Atlanta has resurrected Victor Medieros another Perry folly. Arte’s ownership travesties overshadowed how bad Perry was at roster management. The rare case of the boss being so bad that it overshadowed how worse middle management is.

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Fansince1971

6 hours ago

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Was Perry really that bad or is this Org simply awful at developing and improving players. It’s an open question. If your Org is awful, it really doesn’t matter whom you draft. All prospects come with warts and need developing and refining. If the Org does not do that, no GM will be successful.

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GonFishin

6 hours ago

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That’s still not a good excuse. As the GM, Perry was also in charge of what minor league affiliation they played in, when a player could be called up, sent down, or released. And judging from his post game comments, it sounds like he wasn’t happy with the information being passed to him about how often to throw his fastball. That is 100% on the general manager.

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Fansince1971

6 hours ago

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Well – yes, and no. Picture you are the GM. You see systemic problems that require substantial infrastructure and personnel investment. You go to Arte and say this is what you suggest. Arte says he’s not spending that money. What’s the GM to do?

I don’t know if that was a consistent reality but it certainly could be with what we know. Under that hypothetical, what could Perry do other than quit?

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TrojanBoiler

5 hours ago

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I think you can split the difference.

Lack of investment in scouting and development sits squarely with Arte. And I it’s one of the biggest defects of the Angels organization as a whole.

Perry is responsible for not recognizing talent/potential and subjecting Medieros to waivers in favor of keeping losers like Shaun Anderson and others on the 40-man.

Medieros not developing is more of an Arte problem. Medieros being on the Atlanta roster is a Perry problem.

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Fansince1971

5 hours ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

That’s fair. I can live with 50/50 although I’m inclined to put at least 70% on Arte and his goons.

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TrojanBoiler

5 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

He hired Perry (and extended him!) so I he’s a partial owner of Perry’s failures as well. 70% sounds fair to me.

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MH252525

3 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

I think this one in particular falls on Perry. Mederos showed promise in AAA last year. People he was keeping on the roster, like Shaun Anderson have never shown any inkling of long term pitching ability. Plus he had Yates, Suter and others on the roster who will have no chance of being good when the Angels might be competitive again.

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RexFregosi

2 hours ago

Reply to MH252525

Well Perry is the one who drafted him in the 6th round in the first place so he should get credit for that.

So it evens out.

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Jeff Joiner

25 minutes ago

Reply to RexFregosi

Really bizarre thinking by Perry.

Good enough to draft in the 6th round. Not good enough to keep over Shaun Anderson. Those two seem mutually exclusive to me.

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Pineapple12

6 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

It’s becoming clearer and clearer how bad Perry was at his job. His tenure in Anaheim is indefensible.

— someone who tried defending Perry for years

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HalosFanForLife

6 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

But here’s what is wild – he may get a boost in execution if his draft picks pan out and he’s still going to go down as severely failed. I do think the fish rots from the head – and a change in leadership that manifests through the organization could pay huge dividends. I do believe we’ve been terrible at development and pretty darn bad in the US draft. They did okay on the international market – but our development has not gotten it done.

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Pineapple12

6 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

He definitely deserves credit for reviving LATAM presence and some draft picks, but that’s about it.

His FA signings are so bad you would’ve thought he was trolling. I need to find the tweet that matches each signing with their WAR as an Angel

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Turk's Teeth

1 hour ago

Reply to Pineapple12

And LATAM revival was happening before him – he just kept and reinforced momentum. Their Dominican facilities are still below-average, and they only have one DSL team, where many teams have two.

The LATAM pipeline is seeing success – I just don’t want to ballast the perception that Minasian started the revival – he was a beneficiary of it more than a catalyst, imo.

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Pineapple12

34 minutes ago

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You’ve checked me a few times on the Perry’s influence on our LATAM operation and I have no doubt your pov is more accurate than mine. When it comes to a 2nd DSL team and better facilities is that a result of Perry, Arte, or both? I’d think both.

I’ll give Perry his due for not setting us back at least haha

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Fansince1971

6 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

As long as you don’t excuse Arte as primarily responsible I can accept all thought processes.

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HalosFanForLife

6 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

That’s the king fish.

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MarineLayer

4 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

Of course this is true. The combination of them together could not have been worse.

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TrojanBoiler

5 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I also defended him for years and put a lot of it on Arte. I have come around and realized that Perry was also absolutely terrible at his job.

Worst of both worlds. No wonder this team is in the crapper.

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MarineLayer

4 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

As someone who disparaged Minasian early, I’m glad to see his utter incompetence come to light more clearly.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

6 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

It’s all. Poor player development, poor leadership and poor talent management

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HalosFanForLife

5 hours ago

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But good parking. Very good parking.

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Jeff Joiner

3 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

Both.

Arte hired the wrong GM who drafted the wrong players then hired the wrong development people to coach them up.

The trail of suck started with ownership, went through the front office, and all the way down to the field.

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HalosFanForLife

3 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

See 1971, JJ still got it.

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DMAGZ13

29 minutes ago

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Disagree. As a high school teacher and coach my principal has very little impact on my desire or ability to make myself better and compete with those around me. He’s not in my class affecting my lesson nor teaching my athletes on the court. Arte is not teaching a pitcher how to throw strikes or threaten players with accountability when they’re not doing day to day work. As I read it here, for some of you , Arte is both utterly incompetent that he knows nothing and such a savant that he knows everyone’s spin rates and barrel percentage. Pick a lane.

Perry was an absolute stinker when it came to organizing the MILB pipeline rushing players or mis managing the roster and guys were promoted too early or to the wrong place or coach.

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Jeff Joiner

20 minutes ago

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Massive respect for teachers. All three of my sisters are teachers. One is actually a teaching coach now and is basically a boss of another.

A bad principle won’t change your desire to be good at your job. I’m sure all of the Angels minor leaguers want to be good at their jobs.

But if a bad principle hired a bunch of crappy teachers, cut back on the budgets for supplies and support, and demanded duct tape fixes to an obviously flawed infrastructure I’m sure that school would fail.

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Pineapple12

6 hours ago

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DFAd Mederos in order to call up Shaun Manbunderson for mop up duties that Mederos was deemed unfit for lol.

You’d think if I could realize Mederos’ potential so would the GM who drafted him, but alas 🕊️💔

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Pineapple12

7 hours ago

Nolan Schanuel is on a heater. Since 6/9 —

118 PA
.340 / .433 / .447
11% K rate
12.7% BB rate

I specifically chose to pull numbers after he returned from injury, but if I zoomed out a bit further to 5/17 it would look even more impressive. Nolan has special bat-to-ball skills and is by far and away the best hitter on this team, it isn’t even up for debate anymore.

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HalosFanForLife

6 hours ago

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I’ve been watching him climb up – and he’s a guy I don’t want to see moved. Conventional 1B numbers? No. But when you can get HR’s out of every other position now – I’ll take a guy that consistently posts.

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AngelsFanInHell

6 hours ago

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Time to go.

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YOUknowulovetheIE

4 hours ago

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Schanuel would be a 30+ hr guy if he was a yankee

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HalosFanForLife

3 hours ago

Reply to YOUknowulovetheIE

Probably correct. Good point.

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AngelsFanInHell

6 hours ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Trade him now before he crumbles back into oblivion. He will only break your heart.

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HalosFanForLife

6 hours ago

Reply to AngelsFanInHell

Nobody is off limits if we want to turn this around, I just don’t think you get much for him. He’s only 24. Still a lot of upside.

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Pineapple12

6 hours ago

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Na. He’s improved YoY and his skill set gives him a high floor with less of a propensity to long slumps. Plug him at 1st for the next decade and chill.

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HalosFanForLife

6 hours ago

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Agree – I think his floor is pretty high and has a solid foundation. Might be an Arraez type that never gets the massive payday – but gets nice paydays for years to come.

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angelslogic

7 hours ago

Schanuel started the 9th-inning rally last night with a single, right after Trout struck out. Go figure.

Among first baseman he is 5th in batting average (.282) and 10th in OBP (.353). He’s no Freddy Freeman but he ain’t chopped liver either.

That single showed just how important consistent ball contact can be.

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YOUknowulovetheIE

4 hours ago

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Trout needs glasses

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steelgolf

7 hours ago

Jeff Kent gets into the Hall of Fame and Bobby Grich is left in no man’s land. Yuck.

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HalosFanForLife

7 hours ago

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Grich and Whitaker both belong in. So does Schilling – who totally got hosed.

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HalosFanForLife

7 hours ago

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On Schilling – I wonder if Ty Cobb or Rogers Hornsby would be inducted by today’s voters. Ted Williams for that matter.

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steelgolf

6 hours ago

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Most likely Cobb, Hornsby , and Williams would not have made it in. Schilling absolutely should be in for his baseball accomplishments.

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JackFrost

6 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

Yep. Cobb very much falls in the Pete Rose and Barry Bonds camp…. These are not kind or good people. While it is true that the Hall is not about off the field character, the media types who do the voting are human beings, so why shouldn’t they be influenced by human issues ?

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Charles Sutton

6 hours ago

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Hornsby was an A-hole who gambled constantly on horse racing. He just never got caught gambling on baseball.

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HalosFanForLife

6 hours ago

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He was also a KKK supporter. So was Tris Speaker.

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MarineLayer

4 hours ago

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Bad politics should not be a didqualifier.

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Jeff Joiner

3 hours ago

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There are politics and then there’s supporting the KKK. Granted that was a different time, but still.

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HalosFanForLife

3 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I just can’t stand the self righteousness in the voting. Schilling should totally be in and I have zero respect for voters who didn’t vote for him for his politics. Zero. None. Zilch.

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2pints

3 hours ago

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I wonder how many of the voters are Jewish and have a tough time voting him in due to his extensive collection of Nazi memorabilia.

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HalosFanForLife

3 hours ago

Reply to 2pints

And that’s where the problem lies. People judging a person and not the performance. He claims to have a WWII collection – which is true – with some of it having Nazi gear. I don’t want to say I would be totally unbiased if I was voting – but I would try to look at performance. Of course, I might fill in different blanks if I didn’t like the guy – but I’d want to get the baseball performance stuff right first and foremost. A fringe guy – I’d probably lean against him if I didn’t like him. But Schilling was way past being on the fringe. They got it wrong.

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2pints

2 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

yeah, I’m not advocating one way or the other, just saying that his collection could be a factor, on top of him being a shitty person.

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Jeff Joiner

9 minutes ago

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I did not know about that.

I knew about ripping off taxpayers for about $100 million and sharing white power posts/memes on this social media accounts.

But I also see the point that all happened years after he wrapped up a Hall of Fame career.

I think if I was a voter, despite finding him reprehensible, I would induct the player and write a column to make it clear I was inducting a playing career not justifying his behavior.

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3 hours ago

Reply to 2pints

And that’s where the problem lies. People judging a person and not the performance. He claims to have a WWII collection – which is true – with some of it having Nazi gear. I don’t want to say I would be totally unbiased if I was voting – but I would try to look at performance. Of course, I might fill in different blanks if I didn’t like the guy – but I’d want to get the baseball performance stuff right first and foremost. A fringe guy – I’d probably lean against him if I didn’t like him. But Schilling was way past being on the fringe. They got it wrong.

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HalosFanForLife

6 hours ago

Reply to JackFrost

Kind or good people? Then why are they parading Barry Bonds around during All Star games? And yes – I get that Rose gambled. Don’t gamble kids.

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JackFrost

5 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

Not just about gambling with Rose…. like Bonds he was an a-hole towards media etc.. For his part Bonds was also an a-hole towards Clubhouse attendants and the like… You reap what you sow as the saying goes…

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MarineLayer

4 hours ago

Reply to JackFrost

If Bonds were only an a-hole, as he clearly was, that would not disqualify him. Using enough drugs to turn himself into a comic book character is the sole reason. I still can’t believe they let his tainted “records” stand.

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JackFrost

5 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

Why ? They are parading him at the HR Derby and All Star Game because he’s the All Time HR Leader ! I think that should be pretty obvious.

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HalosFanForLife

5 hours ago

Reply to JackFrost

You mean that baseball performance stat? 😏

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HalosFanForLife

5 hours ago

Reply to JackFrost

My biggest gripe is Bud Selig got in – basically encouraging – the steroids era – under his watch. You don’t get in that position by being stupid. They all knew – and they turned a blind eye because HR’s were putting butts in seats and in front of the TV.

Angels hitting instructor Brady Anderson showed how clean lifting could get you stronger. No need for roids. 😂

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JackFrost

5 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

Yes, I agree on Selig …. there was alot of hypocrisy…. testing but only enforcing selectively…

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MarineLayer

4 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

Since that was his skill, why doesn’t he have our guys following his lead. Seriously, I have no idea why he was hired, and we should find someone better along with a new manager ASAP.

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HalosFanForLife

3 hours ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Maybe they should try Sosa next? LOL

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MarineLayer

4 hours ago

Reply to JackFrost

Cobb did not use steroids or gamble on games. If he did, he does not belong in.

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JackFrost

4 hours ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Big Pappi used steroids and he is in.

Just saying.

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Jeff Joiner

3 hours ago

Reply to JackFrost

To me this is the asinine part:

The least valuable roider is in (Papi) while the far more valuable roiders of Bonds and Clemes are out.

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JackFrost

3 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Yep, Major League Baseball treats the Red Sox the same way FIFA treats Argentina. They have a different set of rules. This includes allowing umpires and refs to cheat on their behalf !

Interestingly, each team has a pompous, abrasive and obnoxious fanbase and a racist culture in their city/country. I don’t know what this means but I find it interesting…

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HalosFanForLife

3 hours ago

Reply to JackFrost

I just found out how racist their general culture seems to be. It’s crazy in this day and age.

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jco

3 hours ago

Reply to MarineLayer