LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Sands Through the Hourglass

Welcome to the mid January edition of Weekend Links. Yes, players are just a few weeks away from arriving at camp and yet the Angels have not filled any notable needs.

The Angels have gone backwards this off season. There’s simply no other way to describe it.

Perhaps they are laying in wait hoping to pounce on some discount free agents. You know, add just enough to pretend to compete. But really they should embrace reality and rebuild.

As far as those discount free agents? Let’s take a look at who could play second base for the team in 2026. Not exactly inspiring.

If you think second base is bad, wait until you look at the third base options. Nobody really wanted Nolan Arenado here but the Arenado trade to Arizona really puts the Angels in a tough spot.

I’m not going to say he’s our starting third baseman, but Kyren Paris played third base in Winter Ball and showed markedly improved plate discipline.

But, let’s give team AM/PM the benefit of the doubt for a moment and say they are going to reinvest the cash flow saved by Anthony Rendon’s restructure. Here’s how I’d probably spend that money. What do you think, do I break 75 wins?

With the Rendon restructure, the Angels payroll currently sits about $80 million lower than last year. That is almost certainly due to no longer having a local TV broadcast deal.

Those payroll figures do include all of the arbitration eligible signings. The Angels agreed to contracts for 2026 for every arb eligible player but Reid Detmers, and the difference between the two is not very large.

As I type this, the international signing period is going on and updates are coming fast and furiously. Looks like the Angels found a future infielder.

We’ll do a full recap of the international signings once the picture gets clearer. That’s my way of saying it won’t all be here.

We waited for years to see Jo Adell emerge as an impact player. Last year his power took a huge leap forward. Are the reasons for that power surge sustainable? Read that link and find out.

More signing news to link:

Didn’t we just have a closer who was drafted as a catcher last season?

And the system desperately needs help on the grass, so this is nice to see.

The biggest news from around baseball came from Chicago where the Cubs came out of nowhere to sign Alex Bregman. The great news here is the chowds are upset.

Boston kept adding to its rotation by signing Ranger Suarez to a big money deal.

The Angels are far from alone in being broadcast free agents. The Nationals recently turned their game production over to MLB.

Have a great holiday weekend and link what I missed. I truly wish we were a country that learned from MLK and practiced what he preached. One great thing about baseball is that it doesn’t matter where you come from or what you look like. Either you can hit the curveball or you can’t.

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Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

Go Rams!!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

Pulled it off. Now it’s time for the bleeding bloody battle to the blood with the She Hawks

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

So, when will Maitan and Baldoquin be called up?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

We’re still hung up on these guys? I especially don’t get the Maitan boo hoo crying.

Baldo didn’t seem to be a guy who should have been paid as much as we paid him. But that was all that was wrong with him. Only people who don’t understand how statements like “I am going to take the most money” and “I’ve always loved Canada” as well as important facts like how the Intl Free Agent System works think we “lost” Vlady Jr cause we signed Baldo.

Maitan was the top prospect of his class. Of course there was arguing over that. And he had holes in his game because he was 16. But again, all we did was pay him.

Take a look at Pipeline’s top 30 from that 2016 class. Hell, here’s 2015 and 2017 too. All I see is that the prospect rankings are all over the place and the success rate is pretty poor for everyone and all those guys are 24-25 years old at least now. Hell, you want bleak, look at the 2013 class, when all these guys should be 29-30 years old and we should see a bunch of free agents we are thirsting for.

I see a ton of nothing on these lists. What I don’t see is Reds and Dodgers fans bitching about Yadier Alvarez and Vlad Guiterrez. Cubs fans desperately holding onto the memory of having signed Eddy Martinez away from the Giants just so they can drag their own team with it. Failed international prospects are like flat tires. Part of life. But not if you’re an Angels fan with daddy issues apparently.

Angels. Fan. JuJu.

The suck we have is the suck we deserve.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

(Buries head in hands)

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago

And no Hideki “shot knees” Matsui? 😆😆😆😆😆

Phil
Trusted Member
1 month ago

“….Kyren Paris….showed markedly improved plate discipline….”

So, only swinging for the fences with every swing until he gets to a 2-strike count?

We’ll see how long this “improved plate discipline” lasts.

My guess, 1 MLB game.

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Paris has been playing baseball since his high school days at Freedom High School in Oakley, CA. It’s likely that he’s also played baseball when he was younger.

And, it’s only **NOW** that it’s occurred to him to NOT swing for the fences with every swing he takes?

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Here’s what I think of Kyren Paris (and Josh Lowe to boot):

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Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Kyren would 1000% become a star as a Dodger

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

And good for him. Let it be.

But I’m still not sure why they haven’t acquired Ward yet. After Tucker, he’s there for the plucking. League min salary, six years of control, lefty bopper who actually *makes contact*. Josh Lowe floor, but Taylor Ward ceiling, on the cheap.

Seems like the Angels have a number of change-of-scenery candidates that could suffice in an exchange.

Ward-Bader-Adell seems like an awfully affordable OF alignment, with Lowe where he should be (4th outfielder and pinch runner).

steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Unfortunately, he probably got into that habit from his high school coach. Seems like they teach the hitters to be aggressive and swing for the fences every at bat.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

#DARTHBADER?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

#ESUAREZ

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago

Evil Arte caves under Pressure to avoid more bad media and gain some goodwill.

https://x.com/SamBlum3/status/2012290207664718330?s=20

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

I hope he keeps him on for a few years like the Dodgers are doing for their former mentally ill OFer. Kudos to Arte.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago

There was this movie I liked when I was younger. It was about a bunch of incompetent players, has beens, castoffs and underachievers. They were built to lose. Some said they were shitty. These guys soon came together and proved the world wrong. They also had a shitty owner who was a former stripper. That was a good movie. There was also one about a dad that promises to reunite the family if the Angels make it to the World Series.

We’ve said let the kids play and now they are. Throw some shit at the wall and see what sticks. There a guy who stepped in shit and Forrest said, “Happens”. Guy said, “what, shit?” Forrest said, “Sometimes”.

I’ll be watching this team all year. My Fandom is rooted in and I’m hear in the shit like a manure farmer waiting smell the sweet smell of success.

Team looks shitty, right?

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Fansince1971
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1 month ago

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Fansince1971

No.

red floyd
Legend
1 month ago

I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on this team’s part!

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago

if we were to do a reboot, it’d be better to wait for the next GM next year to do it. He’d surely get much better value for the lads, than the current one.
Seriously from what we’ve seen, isn’t that the better way? Especially since the young’uns will get better this year.
Arte should veto trades this year till he gets some one else who can do better.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Rex – I disagree. I realize you really REALLY want to believe in this team and the players and that somehow unsigned free agents are going to come to Anaheim and this team might win 85+ games and be in the hunt for a WC.

The more rational, realistic and non-rose-colored glasses approach is to realize This team is going absolutely nowhere fast.

As a result if you are going to potentially trade Neto, Adell, Schaunel and others the time would be now because their value decreases every year they get closer to free agency and more expensive. Young players also don’t always get better. Players like Adell could easily regress.

Waiting is not the solution on a rebuild of a hopelessly flawed team.

I realize you really want nice things but fully accepting the reality is better for clear thinking.

Last edited 1 month ago by Fansince1971
RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I agree with your point – their trade value might go down precisely as you point out due to age+contract. Jo Adell is a good example – if he fades, his value will drop. OTOH, Taylor Ward by waiting til this winter, it might have been his peak.

But for example, Schaunny, if he hits 25 HR, wouldn’t he be much more appealing? Soriano, Detmers same can be said on the pitching side. It largely depends on how much improvement there is in 2026. If they regress, this wait strategy fails mightily.

I don’t look at trade simulators so yes, I could be completely off base when figuring out decreasing contract value vs. a leap in production value.

Last edited 1 month ago by RexFregosi
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It’s a bit of a conundrum because as you mention the longer we wait, the less the players are worth. I think Rex agrees with you he just doesn’t have confidence that Perry and his team will get value for them

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

The other thing to keep in mind is the looming lockout coming in 2027. Players on 1 year deals in 2026 are at a premium and the market seems to be dicatating that so far. Larger AAV with shorter years are fetching more in return right now.
I think the single most important time for LAA is at the trade deadline. We have a ton of 1 year guys that if ANY of them help a contender, they will fetch maxium value.
I see teams going for it in 2026 because no one knows if we will have a 2027.
We can set up for a nice return to baseball in 2028 and beyond if we have a succesful Jun/July with trades.
Root for the 1 year guys we have and keep the core.

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

See, I do think Perry has pulled off some pretty good trades in his time here. Some others were not good. But no GM has a 100% rate of fleecing others in trades.

I think we should trade everyone we possibly can, including Neto at this point. Stock up for 2028 and beyond.
When *hopefully* we’ll have a new owner and a big wave of good prospects starting to emerge. We’d be like the A’s then, but the difference is that maybe the owner would drop some big bucks to supplement our young core with a few key stars.

Last edited 1 month ago by 2GA2Join
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I don’t disagree with trading everything we can and shooting for 28 and beyond but I am not impressed with most of Perry’s trades. And I’m not talking about fleecing anyone, just get value for value and think a little outside the box like many here have in their proposals. We’re actually a very good trading partner as we would be willing to trade current valuable assets for future valuable assets.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

“My feelz are all atremble. Will we get value in return if we trade players? Oh no. All this worry makes me feel enflamed.”

Even if a player is good, like Ward last year, his value decreases because the number of years he is good and cheap decreases. Even the loss of one year eats at that value.

Perry is the GM we have here in the real world.

You want to worry about losing value? Then lets tuck our collective man bits between our legs and watch “what we have” suck because we are afraid what we get might suck. Then they’re all a year further along in their careers. Oh, hurray, look it’s a strike. 2 years then, at least in age, which also matters.

Now if you make trades it’s for 1/2 the value you would get right now. The good news is, since the prospect return you’re getting is so middling, it’s far more likely you will get to enjoy “being right” about the Angels not being able to develop any of the prospects they get.

Yeeaaah. Fun.

Look folks. Let me settle the question now. Two thirds of the prospects we get back in trades will not really help our team. That’s just the way it is. Sitting on the shit roster you know sucks because you’re afraid is pointless. Even if this team has a miracle blip and finishes over .500 this year, it’s still pointless in the long term.

We need to suck it up and get on with it.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I disagree with both of you. We should wait till they are free agents and get nothing! (Ohtani/Rengifo)

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago

😆

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

What I heard was, Arte who has never hired a good GM according to us will now most assuredly hire a great GM this next time.

Arte will veto very little since if he did he would have to take blame. He will not take blame for anything.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

People are such morons. Was at dinner last night with a couple Dodgers fans and the subject of why this is bad for baseball came up. A chorus of “they aren’t breaking any rules” and “they are playing within the rules” ensued.

I tried to explain why it’s bad for MLB to have a few teams with the riches or lavishly spending owners who are the landing sites for the major free agents. That it ruins parity in the league and it’s bad for the long term health of the league.

I referenced a league where MLB negotiated all the media rights and distributed the money to all teams equally and those teams had to spend a minimum amount every year on players but that there was also a hard cap on spending. How that would benefit players and all the teams in the league creating competitive balance.

I mentioned that currently top free agents want to go to a handful of free spending clubs where with a cap they would be more equally distributed making the entire sport more watchable.

They wanted to hear none of it. All they cared about was the Dodgers winning the World series year after year.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I think I saw them at a game last year. Is this them?

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steelgolf
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1 month ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

MLB has been unbalanced competitively for 50-years, money does not buy championships. *see NY Mets.. Dodgers can have Tucker, could care less, they already were going to win the division and be favorites to win the pennant and title. Now, will be more joyous to see them get knocked off. All in for that.

Salary caps/floors won’t solve the issues. It will help to narrow the gap but the big market teams will always have the hammer.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

You are right that there will always be some owners whose prioritize winning over making money and there will be some organizations that just are not very good at talent acquisition and development like ours.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I can think of about three owners who have actually gone out and lost money to field winners in the past 20 years. That’s it.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Look at the NFL – large market teams do not win year after year or have an undo advantage. There is competitive balance and that happens with equal sharing of all media money, a salary floor and a hard cap.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Fansince1971

I also think the MLB needs to cut the shit with the “We Need National Stars” stuff. In some cases that happens naturally, like Ohtani. It also happens in blips, like with Skenes or the Bash Bros.

But if teams had a floor/cap and MLB had a hand in all the broadcasts I would tell teams to start really pushing the REGIONAL connection and identity. The way Raider Nation and Bills Mafia does. Start selling the “our roster, our stars, our team identity” type stuff but push it out nationally while also making it more rabid at home.

It’s actually something the Mets, a team that doesn’t even have to do it, has done really well the last few years.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago

The Gate Keepers!

Sounds good to me for the Angels.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

That’s the problem. The sports been imbalanced for…. I wouldn’t say 50 years, but since the mid-90s. And interest in the sport, every ten years or so, shrinks more and more. And it’s gonna get worse. How many guys in Kansas City do you think are gonna watch games just to see if the Yankees or Doyers can catch a beating?

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 month ago

MLB only looks at attendance figures and whatever data they might be able to get about veiwership/subscriptions and say, “look, everything is great!” I wonder if it dawns on them at all only 8 teams in each league being really able to sniff a LCS is not a good thing in the long run.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  milehigh

That’s the thing. Imagine if every fan in Milwaukee was half as serious about the Brewers as they are the Packers? Multiply that by about 22 cities in the MLB. That graph would shoot UP.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Here’s another idea.

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RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago

25 days till P&C’s workout. Weather for now is great!
instagram @angels_in_tempe is up to 210 posts and 14 followers (which includes me, two pitchers in the Angel org, some regulars here, and starting to get other halo fans). Aiming to post 10 pictures a day.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

15

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I’ve been following. It’s a nice trip down memory lane so thank you!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

Hell yeah bro! Good job!

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago

about these new deals. Bichette,$42mil per season, Tucker $60 mil!! I was surprised when Trout signed his extension at whatever it is. $35 mil or so because I figured by the time the deal ended that $35mil would be low end for an impact player and now here we are.

Well, if Trout is healthy he’ll deliver $35mil’s worth, compared to Bichette, Tucker, #17. Hey, I should look up Ohtani’s details. I know he received a low salary from the Dodgers last year. So when does the big money kick in? Ah….nine more seasons of $2mil, then 10 years of $68mil when he’s retired. That doesn’t seem right.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago

If Trout can stay healthy, his contract is a bargain.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I’d like to see a rejuvenated Mike Trout and see how he would fair. Get him in a team that is built to compete for championships. I want the best for Trout and reward him for his loyalty and get him home.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I want Trout to do cardio, stretching and yoga. Stay out of the weight room and stay on the treadmill.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

I want Trout to sacrifice 72 virgins and pray to Allah if it means he’s healthy.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Trout already tried yoga. It didn’t take.

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WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago

I’m going write Ohtani and ask if I can have the interest.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

So, we got a lot of back-ups this offseason-When are we going to sign starting players?

steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

When they get desperate and realize the Angels are their only option.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

How Lowe can we go?

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Well ………. He did have an oblique injury last year !!! ……. Oh wait, make that 3 oblique injuries in the span of 13 months !!!!!! Sooo Angels.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

#CONSISTENCY

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

No its TrAdition

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

This post would be described as “Panther” in 2009.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

So best shape of his life come Spring Training?

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Reports are out there that Halos intend to put him in CF. I’d would have grabbed a Mike Tauchman out of the FA pool and traded Burke somewhere else or just kept him.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

LH bats on the 40 man to start the Winter: Schauny. That’s it.

Additions have been Meckler, and now Lowe.

the need for LH bats is pretty significant.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I agree. We are trying to balance this team and doing it with what’s available is the only option.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I hear Rengifo is still available.

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 month ago

Lots of big moves in the last 24 hours, but I think the one that will actually have affect me is the A’s poaching Turks from our system. 😄
His analysis of prospects is some of the best content here. Sad to see him go.
Can’t blame him for sure.
I’ve contemplated many times if I can just switch to another team.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2GA2Join

Hell yeah. Rather than become a piss ant like half this site with a dried raisin full of bitter disdain for a heart, why not go enjoy some baseball? Sure. You can be a tough guy about it. “Ah been sat at games since 1961” blah fking blah. But if all you can do is talk shit about the team you’ve been staring at all this time you are a fool, a dick, or both. You’re not really loyal if all you do is stick around to tear it down and start deciding you have keyed in on all the personality flaws of the guys you hate on the team. You’re just an asshole with a long story about why you’re an asshole. And nobody cares about the story.

Watch the Angels suck every now and again. Check out the moves they make. It’s easy with the interwebs. But everyone should have interests. Even in baseball. Don’t be a douche and start following the Yankees or Doyers. But there’s plenty of cool stuff out there. Get interested in baseball again.

The A’s are cool. Can’t stand them? The Red Sox are young and have learned some lessons from being the RedSux of past decades. Can’t do it? The hates too deep? Maybe get in on the ground floor with the Cardinals or White Sox or Pirates? Go wild with Marlins? I love the Reds, Royals, Brewers and Tigers. The Rays. The Guardians. The Orioles.

Go out and get some sunshine and sweet grass my sad donkeys. You can visit the Angels in hospice once a week and otherwise enjoy your lives.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

My adopted teams are the Brewers and Royals. There’s also guys I love to watch hit. I use baseball savant to watch plays of select infielders I love – like Gimenez.

I want this team to excel – but we’re a ways away. That’s okay. I used to do business turn arounds. I once stepped into a situation so bad and so toxic, I told everyone they were fired. You can re-interview if you want – but I’m starting fresh. The business turned around almost overnight with 1/4 the staff. It went from being a pig to a machine way faster than I expected. Sometimes you simply need to start over. This seems to be one of those times.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago

the culture on this team isn’t toxic, but it’s very broken. I finished Earl Weaver’s book and it made me sad to compare the Birds from 50 years ago to Anaheim today.

it won’t do any good to do a rebuild with new players unless the front office is dumped 100%.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Carpino is worse than Arte. Trust me, I’ve met them both.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Kind words, 2G – I appreciate it.

As gitch suggests, I don’t plan to make a cold break from the site. I’m not rage quitting you! 🙂 It’s just been a slow, progressive detachment – following the Angels has been rather joyless for a number of years, and what I value is so at odds with the club M&M are ‘building’ these days. I just want a reason to enjoy baseball again.

I’ll still stop in here and there and talk minor leagues, draft, and college ball, and might even join a few game threads when the A’s and Halos play each other. Just come spring, it’ll be less of a daily habit for me.

At least the A’s are still underdogs, right? Their penurious owner tends to make sure of that. Their farm is interesting and pretty good, but not the best (probably in the #8-14 range at the moment), so there’s something to work towards. But it’s a team full of personalities that seem easy to root for, and a better David to the gruesome goliath of the Dodgers, with an outside path to the playoffs.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Glad you’re not leaving cold. You’re insights are next level. I’m sure you’ll rock it.

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Franchise with 9 World Series victories and more than one heyday is not an underdog.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Huh. You’re serious about this, eh, Turks? Just changing your allegiance (snap) like that? In that case, and I ask this dispassionately, but from a place of passion, were you ever really a fan of the team in the first place? Loving a sports franchise, truly loving it, is not elective. It’s in your blood or it isn’t. It’s not like trading crypto.

C’mon. The darkness will lift and the daylight will be so much sweeter if you suffer the fog.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago

Your approbation is precisely the heuristic I’ve been seeking to validate this decision. I must revisit (lol)!

No, by the same logic, any great love felled by separation or divorce must have always been untrue? Ah well, I guess the greater “fog” is simply living and loving itself.

My first baseball love wasn’t the Angels – it was the Visalia Oaks. A middling Twins affiliate in the Cal League, and as a kid in the late 70s and 80s, I habitually monitored box scores of California MLB ball clubs, without a rooting interest, to stay up to date on what happened to the prospects I encountered at home games as they made their way to the pros.

Lost touch with baseball in the 90s when I went to college, and lockouts and juicing made me indifferent to the sport. Only took it up again in ’99 when my day job required grueling 2 hr commutes across the LA basin in my ’73 Mercedes, which only had its original AM radio on offer. I sampled Padres, Angels and Dodgers broadcasts every night, and eventually *chose* the Angels in 2000, in part due to Erstad’s run and peak Glaus. The players brought me to the team, not the other way around.

You may not believe choice is destiny – but hard determinism narrows your options. As the gentleman who once called me a ‘cuck’ for doubting Angels positional player development relative to Tampa’s and Boston’s, I’ll pose the question back. Isn’t tying your hands behind your back and voluntarily inserting the ball gag while saying “my owner, do what thou wilt to me” a pinpoint description of cuckoldry? That might indeed be fanaticism, but is it really love?

This season, I’m following the players again. And I like the A’s players more than the Angels’. Plus, Sutter resembles my first love more than Anaheim, this second marriage of inconvenience that began growing strange and unpleasant to me after 2012, when the last of Figgy, Vlad, Shields and Hunter left the park. 27 years is just over half a lifetime for me. I’m taking a sabbatical.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Too bad you didn’t hitch on to the D-backs. or an NHL team.

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Oh shit. Turks is one of the primary reasons I stop by here so regularly. Jeff as well, but Turks speaks my stat nerd language so well. 🙂

I will say, I have always ghost-followed other teams based on prospects, drafting and development. I have always enjoyed watching other teams do well where the Halos falter.

I love the Angels – since I moved to San Juan Capistrano in 1981 – but, I love and appreciate well-run teams. I loved the 2000’s Rays. Loved many incarnations of the A’s over the years. I appreciate the current Dodgers not just for the FA signings, but how their farm could fill the gaps if they DID NOT sign the FA’s.

Baseball – with its crap-shoot draft – is a game for smart folks. The guys who figure out the undervalued asset, look at the numbers and see the value that isn’t apparent to the average fan. I love that part of the game, and teams that understand that nuance tend to do better than they should based solely on their payroll.

That’s why a salary cap is stupid. That’s not the issue. It’s the teams that lack vision to go get front office folks who can see these discrepancies and employ them. Then, give them a leash to make change.

Anyway, sorry to see Turks diminish his role here. But, best of luck going forward.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Turk, I hope you are around as much as possible because your youth analysis is such a beneift for us! Thanks for taking the time to teach us about the youth coming up.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Turks!

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Good thing you will be around for the draft and few other occasions you mentioned.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

The incredibly sad thing is that Turks draft analysis and hypothetical picks have dramatically outperformed Perry’s while Turks does it for a hobby with public information and Perry does it for a living with a staff of people to support him. The fact that Arte has no clue about any of this just nuts. How do you run a business and pay no attention to what’s happening. Arte is deserving of his situation. I’m hoping he sells during the strike.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

What is this “staff of people to support him” thing you speak of?

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

The over/under is 71.5 – a .441 percentage. That’s really low for MLB. But the Rockies is 54.5 or only .336. (But they only won 43 – so a huge improvement projected – LOL.) What y’all got? I’ve got the Angels under. I think we’re that bad.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

Under. 65ish wins

FungoAle
Legend
1 month ago

Is the official line out of Vegas? Might be worth a trip to bet the under. As the offense has not changed and the pitching has gotten worse, seems like a lock to me.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

It’s the number on the sports book apps – so pretty official.

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago

68 wins.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago

I’ll take the over!

Bc I’m a Rebel

Terry
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I thought one of the goals going into this off-season was to field batters who can put bat on ball. Doesn’t look like it so far.

Terry
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Bichette just went to Mets, 3 years/126 million.

The Doyers needed to sign Tucker to try to avoid going 0 – 6 against Halos again.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Q: How do you decimate your fanbase?

A: See Angels off-season moves.

Looks like another year without going to a game and losing interest by March.

max
Trusted Member
max
1 month ago

I think a Cactus League championship would be nice. /s

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  max

Oh Hell yeah!

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