LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Famers

Here is the MLB.com article about the future hall of famers who will play in 2026. The Angels are relatively visible in this one. Not only did they have to discuss Mike Trout, but the picture they used for Kenley Jansen shows him in an Angel uniform.

Reid Detmers is the only Angel hold out on the arbitration front. Everybody else settled.

The Rays acquired Ken Waldichuk and Brett Wisely from the Braves in exchange for cash or a player to be named later. The Cubs signed Tyler Beede to a minor league deal.

Michael A. Taylor gets a short gig as an outfield instructor for the Twins.

Former major league right-hander Dave Giusti passed away at the age of 86.

I’m sorry folks. I can’t find many substantive links today. Everybody is writing speculative pieces and the “Some team is interested in some player” stuff.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Angelz4ever
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1 month ago
2GA2Join
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1 month ago

Well we got Shaun Anderson back!
Take that Yankees!

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago

I miss the Colt 45s, they had some good hitters.

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Their unis were so cool.

Last edited 1 month ago by Angelz4ever
FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

and the malt liquor

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

A bit of quantity over quality in this package to the Marlins. Jasso and Matheus seem at best bench pieces, but Jones and Lewis are interesting prospects who are each about a year out from contributing.

NY always manages to keep its blue chips in these trades. Caveat emptor.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

For a starter like Weathers, a blue chip should not be required.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Trade for Matt Shaw?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I’d be extremely down for that. We could get Shaw strait up for Soriano right now….

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Would the Cubs even be interested? They have six starters who posted sub-4 ERAs last season, a potential 7th in Assad, and Justin Steele targeted for return in June/July. Wiggins in AAA is a ninth option.

The Cubs have some enviable starter depth at the moment.

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TrojanBoiler
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

It’s amazing how half of us here try to squint hard and pretend that our starters (both pitching and hitting) are solid if they just stay healthy.

Then you’re reminded of something like this or the dodgers and it’s like oh right, actual rosters.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

The Angels have one of the shallowest depth charts in baseball, no question. Save for…perhaps, at a stretch…the bullpen…

…which they rarely mine (Ryan Johnson notwithstanding), as they’re too busy trying convert relievers to starters in the hopes of creating an actual SP pipeline at the top of the funnel.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Oh I highly doubt that trade. But it is the type of guy we’d have to send over to get Shaw. The Cubs are stacked enough I’d consider trading Shaw for prospect depth. Get a couple good prospects for the great prospect you can’t field.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Which made the acquisition of Cabrera questionable. An arm that comes with a health risk. I like the Marlins (Cassie) side of the trade.

CAoldskoll
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1 month ago

What’s up with reported Mets $50/yr short term offer to Tucker? Totally crazy, how are small and mid market teams supposed to afford any star free agents. The wealthy teams get into bidding wars for better talented players while everyone else has to sort thru the sloppy seconds? League needs some realistic competitive balance plan, even if it results in a 2027 stoppage.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Your post leads perfectly into what I have been thinking about. The most successful sports leagues in the world are the NFL and Indian Premier league cricket. Both leagues control all of the media rights and each team gets an equal percentage share of the media money. This is to promote competitive balance within the league. Additionally, there is some form of a salary cap in both leagues.

Baseball‘s current model results in a few elite teams and a bunch of mediocrity. Sure, there is the occasional story about a team that comes from nowhere with a low budget, but generally MLB is not competitively balanced.

Competitive balance is incredibly important to the success of modern sports leagues. The concept of a luxury tax and small market teams being the recipient of those funds is lipstick on a pig. Baseball needs a fundamental and profound change to control all media rights with equal distribution of the media monied and to institute a salary cap.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

And while the cap is always discussed, the NFL also has a floor. MLB need to recognize that owners pocketing revenue sharing money is a huge problem.

Like America in general, the middle majority needs to reign in the extremes on both ends. There’s less excuse for the Pirates to roll out a $70 million payroll than there is for the Dodgers to try to win.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Is it that they cannot afford or they just elect to maintain fiscal constraints?

bobblanton
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1 month ago

I wonder if Mike Tomlin coaches baseball

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  bobblanton

Sigh. I’m sad. I get it. But I’m sad. I wonder if Mike Tomlin would like to be my roommate. We can hang out and watch football. Go on road trips. Laugh and make pancakes together. Mike? Maybe?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  bobblanton

He won’t take a one-year deal….

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago

I read somewhere, I think a Japanese or Korean site that Arenado said no to a Angels trade using his not trade clause

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago

Or perhaps a Heynmanson post

2GA2Join
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1 month ago

Arenado to Snakes.

Well, we don’t need to wrangle about that trade idea anymore!

bobblanton
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Good maybe Suarez

RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Ranger? yes!
Eugenio? yes.
Jose? maybe.

Kevin
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

More likely Pedro or some other Suarez no one has heard about or was good 5-7 years ago.

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

DBacks paying $11 million in total over the next 2 seasons and gave up an insignificant player.

Ok, I would’ve done that deal for Arenado lol

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

If they are only paying $11 million over 2 years- Trade Values had the numbers pegged almost exactly.

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Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yeah, that’s beyond cheap, and less than what I was expecting. The prospect would have been like the Angels giving up Isaiah Jackson (oops, they already did that) or Luke LaCourse from last year’s draft.

The AAV was Moncada money.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Exactly. Our 8th round pick in 2025 was Isaiah Jackson…. I’m not saying Jackson would have netted Arenado, but the point is that it took very little to get Arenado WITH St. Louis eating salary.

Of course money was the obstacle for our billionaire.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Jackson was actually ranked higher than where the Angels nabbed him – high enough that the Red Sox grabbed him in the Grissom trade, alas.

So, yeah, Jackson would likely have fetched Arenado. Or maybe an arm like Nate Snead.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I’m not so sure Arenado wasn’t the obstacle for our billionaire. For the same money come play in the Big A, pay California taxes, let your kids get raised in California, and play for a clearly shitty team or…. take the Diamondbacks option. It’s not a hard decision to make.

“But yer frum heeer Nolan!” Yep. I’m from here and if I could ever find a job NOT here I’d be out of this state in two weeks.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Add a million to each year, and the state taxes would be a wash, the difference is about $600k/yr based on differential rates.

I doubt any CtPGer would have blinked had Perry paid $7M AAV on the Arenado contract.

Not crying about it – I had little stake in a Nolan acquisition – just seems like if it was just a numbers game, that would be easily addressable. Probably more the case that Nolan doesn’t think the Angels have a chance in hell of contending over the term of his contract.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Yah. The D-Backs are just way more attractive. Not a top 5 team, but can easily snake their way into the play offs.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

It is not about just the money; it is all the other stuff that goes down in Ca. now days. But taxes are different here than Arizona such as DMV fees, gasoline prices, utility prices, taxes on cell phones, taxes on lumber, sales tax, soon the legislature wants to tax us on our mileage driven in our vehicles. Given the choice, who would not pick Ariz.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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For me it’s more a “people thing”. I’m rich, so money isn’t the only factor. It’s also just where do you want your family to live, how do you want the massive taxes you will spend where ever you are to be used, etc etc.

I doubt that stuff maters as much as having a shot at the post season. It’s just a consideration. Playing for the Angels… it checks no boxes.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago

Orange County is a great slice of California, though. And Arenado is from here and has enough money to do just fine here.

The one big plus is now he gets to train and play in the same place. So if he buys a house out there he can park his family there year round and have a somewhat normal routine.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

An 8th rounder

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

My first reaction is – me too. But I changed that when looking up what we would have given up. Martinez was a 10.8. Just don’t want to be giving up prospects right now unless we know something others don’t.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Can you imagine if we traded Rada for Arenado? The fume? Glorious.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Jack Martinez was a very low ranked prospect, not comparable to Rada. I think HalosFanForLike mistook the player.

Bitzer even made the comment: “Arizona is sending non-prospect Jack Martinez back as a token return (he’s not in our system).”

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

That’s incorrect though. The prospect was so negligible he wasn’t even in the BTV database. If you saw 10.8, it was the wrong Martinez.

This was a <1 value prospect.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Then I stand corrected – I literally saw Martinez and plugged him in. Didn’t verify first name. Thanks Turk’s. Then looks like a great deal for the DBacks. I knew that article saying the Cards might release him was laughable. $11 million and almost nothing back is beyond fair to the D-Backs. Wow.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

No biggie – when I saw who it was (recent 8th rounder with no pro innings to his credit), I knew it was the type of prospect Bitzer tends to leave out of his DB.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

It showed how much the Cards wanted to move him. MLB fans are about to be introduced to JJ Wetherholt – which is a great thing. One of the best college hitters I’ve ever seen. (And I’m old). It doesn’t always translate – but I’m expecting great things from him. I need to check the ROY odds – because I think he’s gonna be special.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago

Nope – down to +400 on DraftKings. I’m optimistic but not insane.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

Jeff – with your platform I would love to see an article circulated regarding the clown show Angel upper management involving Carpino and Kuhl. A real expose of how these guys have no baseball experience and have been put into the upper echelon of the baseball side of the Org based purely on their friendship with Arte. Maybe compare that to other organizations like the Dodgers that have layers of actual baseball people making baseball decisions. I think there is a great expose article in there.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Very interesting idea. It would also be interesting looking at the better run orgs vs Angels. I’m curious what Tampa Bay has there too.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago

Tampa Bay has promoted from within but for good reason. When Friedman got plucked away they let the people who had learned under him graduate and train new people.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Fansince1971

Yes. Jeff, I also have some of my thoughts I’d like you to put out there on SI.

Starting with “Avocado Toast. Un-American?”

bobblanton
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1 month ago

Haha

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

Ha!

2pints
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Sounds like you want him to go all Sam Blum, in-turn making many here turn on him for being mean to the org.

RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  2pints

How I see Jeff so far in order of kowtowing to the org based a lot on his positions here:

Rhett 100% (don’t hate; it’s his job)
—-gap—-
Fletch: 65%
Jeff: 50%
—-gap—-
Sammy: -20%

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

I also keep a close eye on who is supportive of the proletariat and who needs their credentials pulled because they are not punk rock. Those people need to be forced to sit in the far left back corner of the cafeteria.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Fletch always reads as 85-90% to me, but I’ve just seen him condescend and dress down Angels fans so often on Xitter for not carrying the water high enough that he seems like an extension of the front office – albeit a surly and vocal one.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2pints

Actually I bet Jeff could go al “Sam Blum” without making the main focus of the story the feelings and slights life has dished out to him and his thoughts on his thoughts.

He could be “Cold Blum” rather than Blum The Angry Vagina.

2pints
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1 month ago

found one

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Fansince1971

I’m thinking it would be prudent to build up some tenure and goodwill before openly declaring war on the people Arte loves. Jeff’s assignment is the Angels, and if he goes “scorched earth” in the month of his gig – he’ll be persona non grata for the remainder of Arte’s term.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Wait. You mean his job is a …job?

What a sell out.

I need Jeff to broadcast my limp dick complaints to the world because no one listens to me because I don’t really matter.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

Depends what it pays 😉

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago

It would take a two second google search to find my Arte Moreno’s Legacy of Abject Failure piece I published here a couple of years ago. And they have plenty of other things they can find both good and bad.

I’ve reached out to each organization in the minors to introduce myself and state I will be requesting interviews. I’ve reached out to the Angels Community Foundation stating I want to highlight the charity work and cover some of the events.

I’ve reached out to agents to introduce myself in some cases and let others know about my new gig.

Ultimately I will reach out directly to the Angels and I may or may not get help securing interviews. I can’t help that. Hopefully they help. If not, I should have enough other resources to fill out the page.

What I can do is report things honestly and build a great page for Angels fans. This isn’t my personal page any more than CtPG is and I was assured I would have complete freedom to say whatever needs to be said or I would not have taken the gig.

OnSI does have a desk that handles media credentials. I’m going to request through them and try to be professional. We will see what happens.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I’m actually already working on this. I started tracking down team president hires using AI yesterday and it appears Carpino is among the longest tenured in all of MLB.

And it goes on from there. Most of the employees called to testify at the Skaggs trial have been there forever as well.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Carpino just pisses me off in general. I could not do a detached piece on him. I’d just launch into how I hate his ass face.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

I’m there on Kuhl. I’ve heard him speak and to say he knows nothing about baseball is an overstatement of what he knows about baseball. All he cares about in my opinion is marketing and $$.

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steelgolf
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1 month ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Thank you Jeff. This is a very important piece in my opinion.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

You should like the rebuild piece I have scheduled for tomorrow morning as well.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago

Hall of Fame is not really a really true Hall of Fame in my humble opinion as it has allowed to many former players who should not be a member to be voted in by the writers. Example of this would be Big Papi Ortiz. Papi was a popular player with the hometown Red Sox, but getting voted into the MLBHOF even after admitting using steroids to bolster his numbers. Ivan Rodriguez and Mike Piazza ditto along with others.

Manfraud changed the game of MLB by his admittingly short stance on cheating when he gave players a pass that were involved. Again, he came up short again when he found out that many more teams other than the Astros, Red Sox and Yankees were doing the same thing.

This year Carlos Beltran is coming up for vote. He certainly put up the numbers that would qualify him for entrance into the MLBHOF, but he was directly involved in the Astros cheating scandal by participating in the thrash can banging and while batting using his ears to tell him of the incoming pitch. He lost his new job position managing the Mets as a result of his involvement. Should the degree of cheating in professional baseball be weighed for the degree of guilt or is it really just the act alone.

The appearance of accepting tie ins with professional gaming has been accepted by major league sports with open arms, has it not. When committing Billions of dollars to buying a team the Billionaires want the most return that they can receive these owners have made a deal with the devil it would seem. More the one player in MLB, NFL, and the NBA have been caught in scandalous gambling schemes that can put some cloud over the legitimacy of those sports involved.

By the handle of GrandpaBaseball you can easily come to the conclusion that I’m on the downside of sixty and you would be correcto, I also with my health have one foot out of the end zone or I’m running for Homeplate, but the point being that I’m pretty much old fashion in how I look at things I guess because cheating is cheating no matter how i look at it. Cheaters should not be rewarded because they cheated no matter the degree.

The MLBHOF weakens itself by allowing non deserving players admission.

steelgolf
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1 month ago

I would not have voted for Jeff Kent. Really good player, yes, Hall of Fame- no.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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The MLB HOF has been weakening itself this way since it started. You think the Black Sox were the only guys who took money off gamblers in the Arnold Rothstein days? Phil Rizzuto? Waite Hoyt? Ducky Medwick? Ted Lyons? Home Run Baker? Tinker/Evers/Chance are in for a poem for gah sake.

And I don’t care about steroids. So many guys are/were on them that “that’s baseball” now. They just replaced cocaine and greenies. Same with cheating. Everyone cheats or wishes they were better at cheating. If, is this cesspool environment, a player managed 15 years of well above average production I feel safe believing he was a superior baseball player.

Free Rafeal Palmeiro.

For what it’s worth, while I think it’s stupid to exclude a player for steroids, I DO THINK their stats should be measured comparably. Basically, a 500 HR benchmark is not the same in 2005 as it was in 1985. We have computers that can figure that stuff out.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago

Again, somebody using bad behavior to justify bad behavior. It doesn’t fly no matter how much you justify using steroids, steroids were and still are and always will be cheating.

BTW, I don’t cheat on my wife as I like having my Balls. I don’t cheat on paying taxes as going to the hoosgow is not on my bucket list. And I don’t put an Ave in my sleeve. 😄 

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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No. If justifying bad behavior was NEVER OK and letting sad sack players in for stupid reasons was NEVER OK then the HOF has been failing at that since about class 1. It’s silly to suddenly decide that MODERN bad behavior…. now that shit counts. But Tim Raines? He’s cool.

CAoldskoll
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1 month ago

Question; is it considered cheating to have a ‘war room’ right in back of the dugout, filled with screens of cameras looking for pitch signs, base running, and hitting plays; with over a dozen staff in polo shirts analyzing what the other team is doing; and relaying all that to coaching in game? Isn’t that spying…. Cheating?? Guess who’s had that in their stadium for many years?

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

I never eluted to the spying as anything but cheating, but the offices of MLB knew and when informed of how deep it went, Manfraud choose poorly. Selig and his successor followed the money and not the integrity of the sport. In 1920 Landis did the right thing in how he handled the throwing of the World Series.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago

Beltran accumulated 70 WAR and was 19% better than the league as a hitter. Bobby Grich accumulated 71 WAR and was 25% better than the league as a hitter. Lou Whitaker, Dwight Evans, and Reggie Smith were also very good players. I never thought of any of them as HOFs when they played but they are all also significantly superior to a number of players who have gotten in in the last 30 years and they all belong in.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Man, Reggie Smith and Dwight Evans…both solid, under appreciated OFs with cannon arms.

Reggie was a tough dude on the diamond. Was watching a Dodgers-Giants game during the hated-rivalry wifh Scully on the PbP call. Game was being played up at the Stick when Reggie and Davey Lopes entered the stands to pound on a Giants fan who had thrown a plastic helmet at Smith. The fan suffered 3-broken ribs, broken knuckles and a sprained wrist. Reggie took no crap. Dodgers got sued, $5M or so. The irony was, that influenced Reggie’s separation with the Dodgers but signed on to play with the Giants the following season, his last year in baseball.

RexFregosi
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1 month ago

Barry Enright hired –  Pitching Coordinator and Director of Pitching for the West Sacramento Athletics.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Clearly the A’s FO is full of morons. Every move a comedy.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

I believe that the three leagues using the Cap and floor system make money as opposed the losing money, so there is that. With the bad contracts that the Angels deal with every year would that not raise the floor for them and with that they could continue to put out a terribly weak team every year. So how does that help us fans of the Angels? It doesn’t, so the problem is really with the owners themselves and what they see as being able to spend which results in teams like the Pirate, Brewers, Royals, Rays, and Marlins unable to compete with the New York, LA, and Chicago teams

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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It’s true. Cap. Floor. Angels fans will be able to wave the shitstick no matter what and juju their way into busted free agents and prospects that whither on the vine no matter what the rest of the MLB does.

We need to find a way to get the baseball gods off our case. That would likely take a bunch of STFU and that’s not a skill we have. Positive thinking? Most Angels fans think that’s an old wooden ship….

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago

From a fan standpoint I do think that a floor/cap would improve the game. Also put a cap on contract length at 7 years. It does the fans no good to have to watch their fav team to wither on the vine with the back end of 10-12-13 year contracts such as we’ve seen with the Angels. With that stated I realize the players should justifiably fight something like, but the fans do not have a vote.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago

The ONLY way this cap/floor thing will get player approval is if the total player payroll is going to go up.

If we make the Dodgers shave $100 million then the Pirates, A’s, Royals, etc. need to increase by $15-20 million. Most of them can already but choose to pocket revenue sharing money.

grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago

Hey here’s a fun link: From an AI-generated sports site that smartly lists Japanese volleyball star Ren Takahashi as the No. 1 international baseball prospect in 2026. Stop the presses! https://thesportsutopia.com/top-international-prospects-entering-mlb-in-2026/

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Oha. No. Article. This is clearly not. Also Artificial Intllegance. By. Real sportsman? Yes.

clover_black
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1 month ago

garbage sites like these are tantamount to pollution.

grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago

Int’l signing period opens Thursday. MLB did this cursory prospect roundup: https://www.mlb.com/angels/news/each-team-s-top-international-prospect-2026?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago

I was talking a few days ago to a friend of mine who is a scout living in the DR. One of his buddies said their organization is now starting to consider deals with 12 year olds. He said because every org is down there, it’s how to get the jump. My buddy couldn’t believe it. Crazy.

RexFregosi
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1 month ago

Pitchers and catchers report in 30 days and our winter of our discontent gets real.

RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

on Adell’s instagram, I see at least him and Hop are at Diablo working out.

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