LA Angels Monday News Crash: Big Deal – Crashing the Pearly Gates

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1 hour ago

I’ve been busy elsewhere but the Murakami miss seams to be a head scratcher. He signed for a reasonable number and went to a crappy team. Angels check those same boxes but his life expectancy and weather would both improve in Anaheim.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

1 hour ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

For me, the weirdest thing is that he’s going far away from the west coast…. though it’s not THAT weird. But yeah, if you just want to hide out on a loser team for two years, why not LA?

I just don’t care because I think he’s got a solid chance of being a 1B with really sketchy OBP issues. We don’t need that even if it costs less than we expected.

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PedroCerrano

53 minutes ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I’m not losing sleep on it but hail mary’s seem to be the playbook. He actual has a high OBP in Japan but swing and miss is a big flag.

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RexFregosi

2 hours ago

ESPN Fan Misery Index –
Halos no longer #1?? I vehemently disagree that the Pirates, Mets and Twins fans have it worse than us.

4. Los Angeles Angels2024 ranking: No. 1
It never ends for the Angels. Let’s see what happened in 2025:
• A 10th consecutive losing season.
• The third-worst run differential in the majors and worst in the American League.
• Manager Ron Washington had to step down in June due to health concerns.
• Yusei Kikuchi publicly complained about the lack of air conditioning in the team’s weight room. (At least the Angels then posted a job for an HVAC technician.)
• The Angels finished last in the majors with a .225 batting average and first in strikeouts.
• The bullpen was one of the worst in Angels history.
• The ongoing Tyler Skaggs trial.
• The ongoing Anthony Rendon saga. He didn’t play at all in 2025 and is still owed $38.5 million in the final year of his contract, so there will be some sort of buyout. Don’t expect a goodbye ceremony.
Bottom line: The Angels drop in the rankings only because this chaos is now the norm. As one Reddit user put it: “This team has zero chemistry, a losing culture, a clueless GM, a terrible owner, way below average MLB pitching, zero grit, zero leadership.”

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max

2 hours ago

Reply to RexFregosi

But 6-0 against the Ohtanis

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Fansince1971

3 hours ago

The Angels trading young talent for 35 year old expensive Arredondo would be so stupid and meaningless that it almost seems like something the Angels would do.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

3 hours ago

Reply to Fansince1971

It’s really inevitable, it checks all the boxes Arte craves:

well-known player with name recognition, the type of player that helps support the illusion that he (Arte) is trying to winplays at a marquee positionwas previously an all-starlikely (borderline?) Hall of Fame inducteeis still owed big money ($74 million through 2027)

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HalosFanForLife

2 hours ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

What about something like this: (We could exchange either Schanuel or Burleson to the Yankees.) Just a thought.

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Jeff Joiner

2 hours ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

Would suck to lose TGA but that at least fills multiple roster spots for a couple of years.

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Fansince1971

1 hour ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

I think even this would be a bad deal for the Angels from a monetary standpoint with the owner that we have. That Arredondo contract at this point is not dissimilar from Vernon Wells when the Angels gave up Napoli and Rivera and assumed all monetary responsibility.

Additionally, there is a very little chance that a deal like this would happen, even if it is supported by the trade simulator. Those two pitchers are very unlikely to be part of the deal.

A deal for Arredondo would likely be something like the Angels assuming all responsibility for the monetary portion of the deal and sending one or two middle level prospects to the Cardinals. No thank you.

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HalosFanForLife

1 hour ago

Reply to Fansince1971

The simulators say you get value for taking Arenado – you don’t give it up.

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Fansince1971

1 hour ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

The simulator is often wrong. Why would the Angels want a $27 million contract for next year from a player who produced a little bit over one WAR and who is 35 years old? It’s so silly. It’s not like this guy is going to really add anything except a perceived marquee value. Do we just want the Angels to do something regardless of how stupid it actually is?!

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HalosFanForLife

1 hour ago

Reply to Fansince1971

Nobody is taking Arenado without getting something in return. Nobody. Taking him in – even if we were to go more for a prospect instead of now value – we get something and he comes off the books in two. We have no bench in the minor leagues so it’s going to take money to get out of it. We can’t get around that. Take the hit now for having huge flexibility in 2028. Gives a perception to the unknowing that they are trying, but the plan is to have a lot of cash in two years. Just my reason why. But let’s face it, we’re missing too much on our minor league system and nothing will change until we fix that. Both of these guys could be traded next year at the deadline which I will be a big proponent in doing heavily next year. One year we need to really be sellers.

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Fansince1971

42 minutes ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

I understand your thought process and respect it. That said, I don’t see any reason why this team would take on a contract of that size for a 35-year-old fading veteran. I just don’t think it serves any purpose and I’m skeptical about the return that they would get for taking that contract.

The whole basis for the speculation in the News stories is the idea that Rendon might be willing to negotiate a buyout. That is a huge question mark.

So it’s all just wild speculation during a period of time where there is very little news.

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RexFregosi

18 minutes ago

Reply to Fansince1971

a local kid who will look good on a billboard and sell tickets.

it makes 100% sense in the Haloverse where Marquee value is much better than OPS+

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clover_black

4 hours ago

“ It’s starting to become clear what the Angels’ strategy is this offseason.
They’ve gone after players with an element of risk but also with some upside.”

This is every offseason.

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Jeff Joiner

2 hours ago

Reply to clover_black

Moreso since Perry got here. And it makes sense to a degree. I’d rather see if Moniak, Peraza, and Grissom can capture their prospect ceilings than see over the hill veterans cashing one last check before retirement.

The constant is the lack of talent flowing from our farm to MLB to avoid having to acquire so many players each off season.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

1 hour ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I appreciate the upgrades at Madison, Rancho Cockroach, Pasco and “the lab”. I appreciate getting Maddox to coach. I can see that, compared to past years, we are doing more internationally. That’s all nice.

This “flyer taking” at the upper levels would be a lot easier to sell to at least SOME fans like myself if their last draft hadn’t been such a boondoggle. I like Bremner, but the rest of that pile isn’t bad but also isn’t impressive. If this next draft, and even the chatter before it, is some sort of “man, the Angels have a lot more scouts out this year” and then they go out and take a big pile of healthy gambles that look like they have a plan, that would be a nice step.

Ad some trades for prospects. Make some announcements and noises about system wide coaching and training plans, etc. Push info about prospects doing well.

I’m fine with a kid like Grissom. But I’d actually be less critical of the team if they were to just come out and say they are working on a bunch of foundational stuff from the farm up and that sausage making can get ugly.

Sure. Mike Trout and Old Man Demandachamp will be sad. I don’t care. Cardinal fans seem to be surviving Blooms plan OK.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

5 hours ago

Oh no. Set up to make the proverbial “one big deal”…..also known as “Perry’s Next Big Splash”

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WallyChuckChili

6 hours ago

Don’t know what it says (paywall) but Title says it all.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2025-12-22/should-angels-fans-give-up-join-dodgers-bandwagon

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steelgolf

5 hours ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

5 hours ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

Wait…give up?

The LA Times – Chavez Latrine wiping material. Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!…

It ain’t over now, ’cause when the goin’ gets tough, the tough get goin’. We’re going to ride this all the way down to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Who’s with me? Let’s go! Come on!

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

56 minutes ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Why don’t LA news fans just give up and get their news from the internet as a whole instead of paying the LA Times?

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PedroCerrano

1 minute ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

LOL, I wish I knew how to not care. This team IS teaching me to not like baseball nearly as much as I once did.

I often find myself watching random games from other teams just for the experience of watching good baseball when it doesn’t result in Angel loses.

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CAoldskoll

4 hours ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

It’s Ok to follow out of town teams, or because you like a lot of their players. Heck, some people I know became a fan simply because the ‘’Reds’ were their first little league team. But bandwagon’s just suck period. Shows you have no loyalty, and your priority is following the winning team. We’ve seen a bunch in LA, the from Bulls fans to all the Niners football. It’s also a flex thing; wearing that winners jersey or cap around. That article is stupid. If there are Angels fans that don’t have brand loyalty, go ahead and jump ship to the enemy blue. Thinking we already had one who everyone liked that did. Goodbye!

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

23 minutes ago

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Let’s go Diamondbacks! Or Padres! Hell, go root for the Marlins. The Angels will still be here…. sucking.

I just don’t understand how a human roots for the Angels, then goes and roots for the Doyers, then maybe goes back to the Angels. I’d just feel like a total shitbag.

It’s easy to explain that my team sucks, so I watch the Royals and Tigers and Reds because they have players I really enjoy…. but I still want the Angels to beat them when they play and I want the Angels to get better.

The “I root for LA” type thing is pretty candy ass. You mean like all those fans that love both the White Sox and the Cubs? Or the Mets and Yankees?

All you have to do is listen to how Doyer and Laker fans talk about the Clippers and Angels and their fans…. it should be clear there is a side to take and if you’re “both” you kinda suck.

It’s interesting, with the NFL. As a kid I loved the Raiders and the Steelers. The Raiders left, so I couldn’t see them on TV every week and Al Davis sucked. So I became a Steelers fan full time. Still am. That guy in Detroit 100% deserved to get smacked in the head by Metcalf. Why? Go Steelers.

But I am happy LA has football. I’ve always been fine with both the Rams and Chargers. I watch both teams. But as the season’s go by it’s becoming more clear to me, I don’t like the “Whose HOUSE!” Rams fans all that much. I don’t like the Ram’s personality as much. It’s like rooting for Applecorp. The Chargers are an AFC team…. but I’m starting to like them more than the Rams, even if I’m still at the point where I watch the Rams with my parents and usually want them to win.

Give it another few years. I’m probably a Chargers fan. Mostly because the Rams just feel more like a team whose fans I don’t want to be like, even if the team itself is fine. At that point I’m not likely to be in the “I like both teams” camp. I’ll always want the Steelers to win, but if I’m backing an LA team I won’t be comfortable rooting for both soon.

I face an even bigger problem because I want to get a job out of state badly. A lot of jobs in the Dallas area. I just can’t even pretend to be into the Cowboys.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

58 minutes ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

Sure. If this were 1988 and I had no personal standards. But why would I become a simp for that group of assholes when I can just become a fan of any other team now?

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